/lit/ - Literature

>>3905607

sorry, in the second sentence, when I say literary effort, I don't mean all literary efforts ever, only the ones created by people from /lit/

>>3905607
>yet /lit/, the board that would deem itself the most cultured, has contributed close to nothing?

If you mean the people here are less inclined to ruin the lives of 11-year-old children and ex-girlfriends like /b/, you're right. That's more or less the extent of what this site has given planet earth.

>>3905607
>but would you seriously claim that one randomly selected paragraph from Ulysses or Lolita is greater than content from 4chan that has survived around 8 years of ruthless natural selection?

Yes.

>>3905607
feelguy originated on krautchan

>>3905612


Im glad you specified that you're talking about earth. Man it would've been confusing.

>>3905649
Being specific is always helpful. Vagaries are so... that feeling that makes you feel kinda bleh.

Feelguy came from Krautchan, Sadfrog came from some Danish webcomic.

>>3905607
>>3905633
Pls be scepter of my passion quote

>>3905633
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>edgy as a positive thing

lel

;)

>>3905612
You haven't heard of all the cultural contributions to Sirius B?

>>3905749
How I met your mother and Supernatural just started airing in the Sirius system.

>>3905751
Think of how devoid interstellar space would be of political and intellectual philosophy if /lit/ hadn't ensured that we strapped a couple copies of Atlas Shrugged onto Voyager I's faceplate.

>>3905744
God the guilty boners I got with the opening chapters of this fucking book

>>3905607
>implying anyone past the age of 14 gives a shit about internet culture.

Also the reason why sadfrog and feelguy are proliferated so constantly is because of the implicit meanings that underpin them. /lit/ doesn't just say "that feel when no gf". They elaborate on the profundity on what that means.

/lit/ measures its worth on how little it has in common with /pol/. Even though half the people here go there regularly, they pretend they don't to fit in and to feel 'above' it.

So any thread that criticises modern leftism/feminism/identity politics etc is saged and shitposted to death and nothing worthwhile is discussed other than how much better they are than everyone else.

>>3905777
>major butthurt

>>3905777
>projecting.

"Feelguy" was created by Wojak from Krautchan, OP and sadfrog is a variant on Matt Furie's Pepe from Boyz Club. so I don't see how these are 4chan creations.

Also, /lit/ fosters worthwhile discussion, not mindless epic le meymeys, that is valuable in and of itself.

>>3905741
Believe it or not, the term edgy is not exclusively sarcastic. It just means cutting edge and maybe a bit transgressive. Strange that this term which probably encapsulates the spirit of 4chan more accurately than any other single word has become an insult here. I think that says something about the demographic shift the site has experienced in the last few years.

>>3905665
>>3905821
This. European image boards have been at the forefront of online meta-humour for a good few years now. 4chan is reddit-tier.

It's only because there aren't enough people here and threads aren't fast enough

Too few browsers = scattered threads without many posts & regurgetated threads that people love for being reposts and love for being something which the board as a whole identifies with (Chairman Tao, David Foster Wallace)

Too many users = regurgetated threads with reposts which still entertain the flow of newcomers, a pining for the 'old days' (see /mu/s 'mu humour' threads, and /b/'s 'old fags only' threads), shitposting at a max to get attention in the stream of newkiddies

/lit/ is ok at certain times of day, but most of the time it sucks

This site used to be funny as it had intelligent people pretending to be retarded. Now it consists of mostly average people trying to come off as intelligent.

I think the main issue with /lit/ is that a large number of posters on here are assholes and terrible humans beings who feel the need to disrupt any conversation that begins, or to prevent conversation by starting some inflammatory thread. That is, of course, just the main issue, there are certainly others.

>>3905859
B-b-b-but this pamphlet I wrote on why Africans are inferior is technically lit, rite guys?

>>3905870
The tumblr core people that post here are just as bad as /pol/.

>>3905912
Okay.
>B-b-b-but this pamphlet I wrote on why men are inferior is technically lit, rite guys?
Better?

How does it feel to be retarded

>>3905943

How does it feel to be butthurt?

I don't feel the need to create content for /lit/, because while I love books, I just don't have the same tastes as the majority of this board. Sure its fun to have a laugh at bad authors, but that is far of a connection I can usually get with most of the users here. It seems our tastes are far to varied to really appeal to the mass of the board. While on all the other boards I visit, even small ones, there is a sense of community and some common things that we can all at the very least chat about whether we like it or not.

>>3905607
So which memes did originate from this board? I've only been browsing /lit/ since late 2011ish.

>>3906105
>"While on all the other boards I visit, even small ones, there is a sense of community and some common things that we can all at the very least chat about whether we like it or not."

Which others boards do you frequent? /sp/ and /mu/ for me, and the former does have a very solid "culture" as does /mu/, but I have always found /mu/ to be the least appealing as it generally feels like a circle jerk.

>>3906198
the image in the /mu/ sticky is based on a /lit/ meme. generally our in-jokes don't make it to the other boards though. they're also more word based than other boards' memes, for obvious reasons.

>>3906209
What part of it originated here? The guy wielding the shotgun or all of the album references that decorate him?

But people unanimously agree that 'board culture' (i.e. stupid, spammable macros) are cancer. So, you're effectively asking why /lit/ is one of the least cancerous boards on the site.

gg; no re

>>3906218
memes are a product of a healthy board culture, not the board culture itself. /lit/ is actually one of the worst hobby boards on 4chan. people here are very unpleasant (e.g. you).

>>3906198
Simpsons is always spot-on
there used to be Penguin Classics cover edits, but I don't remember any other memes from here. I do like the "There is no doubt that at this point our professor, Michel Foucault, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than an AIDS ridden sadomasochist interested in fisting. He wished so much that he had some kind of truth to hold on to, but he himself had written to disprove it!" copypasta but that's obviously an edit of something already existing.

>>3906224
Oh, because /sp/, /jp/ and /v/ are totally 'healthy' boards.

>>3906228
or, there are other memes but not any I remember offhand
idk

>>3906229
/jp/ is fine. the other two are just normalfag hang outs.

Would you include "No discernible talent," "Finnegans Wake, piece of cake," "Start with the Greeks," "Go to bed, Tao," etc., as memes? No one on /lit/ can ever be bothered to open up photoshop, it seems.

>>3906235
Is that a fucking joke? /jp/ is 99.9% 'I want to fuck a 2hu' spam, and the other 0.01% is blatant off-topic shitposting:

>>>/jp/11130024

>>3906224
>/lit/ is actually one of the worst hobby boards on 4chan
nah, /mu/ and /tv/ are basically just aspies attempting to one-up each other on obscurity. from what i can tell, the entire purpose of the boards is to post an album cover or screen-cap, so that you can call another poster a pleb when they ask what it is (or what it's from)

>>3906228
Oh "Simpson is spot on." How could I forget that one? Some of the Penguin Classics are funny but most are just meh.

>>3906247
/mu/ and /tv/ are far more entertaining than /lit/ and have a much stronger community spirit. Those are the main reasons people choose to browse 4chan, not 'serious discussion' (which is shit on /lit/ anyway.)

>>3906252
And you're making it even worse by posting cancerous meta threads. Don't complain about post quality and then come here to shitpost.

>>3906224
I dunno man, /3/, /po/ and /x/ are the worst in my opinion (/mlp/ and /cgl/ kind of go without saying, total retard tier). This board is pretty damn slow and has been basically, slowly, turning into /phi/ which I think should have its own board, like on 7chan, and we should keep this place specific to literature. That probably won't happen, but it would be a good step towards fixing this board up.

>>3906252
>serious discussion
the idea of "just coming to be entertained" is what lets people absorb reactionary ideologies from /pol/ under the pretense of entertainment
not to say it turns people conservative per se but nobody should care that much about the Zimmerman trial, really

>>3906241
in that regard I guess you can add Hemmingway, "Ulysses is a shit novel, very third-rate," and maybe bookstore greentext. The photoshops tend to be of a lower quality, which maybe makes sense for the board I don't know

>>3906252
Both /mu/ and /tv/ are corrupt beyond repair from rampant tripfaggotry.

They call me Doctor Worm
Good morning how are you I'm doctor worm
I'm interested in things
I'm not a real doctor
But I am a real worm
I am an actual worm

I believe there has been some quality discussion on this board, however, unlike memes, they don't persist as they are typically more involved.

OP caters to the meme famedom of 4chan, but let's consider some basics:

>meme's cater to low attention span audiences
>90% of memes are unfunny, but are forced so much that they become part of the vocabulary (costanza.jpg, le advice dog, etc..)

Do you seriously expect the /lit/ board to excel in this kind of content? Sure, some decent boards come out with their fair share of memes. I'll take the example of /g/ as I visit it often.
>install gentoo
>stallman/interject
but as a consequence it is also filled to the brim with shitposts (batturstashun, l33t desktopz, etc). Point being, such reputation begets only more shitposters, who mistake irony for normal culture. /lit/ doesn't have that (besides the dedicated Tao Lin troll).

do you think that 'internet culture' came from a vacuum, some /ex machina/ construct with its own tools and methods of evaluation, the beginning of some cultural continuum completely separate from the continuum of traditional media? if so, you are mistaken. the tools that we use to determine who is 'ahead of the curve' or not regarding internet culture are not new; they have been undergoing a steady metamorphosis since the dawn of modernity, culminating in the post-modernism in which we find ourselves mired today. before we evaluated the internet as a cultural force greater than fine art with a straight face, we did the same with things like advertisements, popular music, film, and formless confessional poetry. so yes, there is no doubt that 'serious literature' and other such 'intellectual' pursuits have lost some of their luster. but if you want to see how we GOT here--how the history of literature and its critics eventually led to a breakdown of the rubric by which we determined what was and what wasn't 'true literature' or 'true art music' or 'true philosophy' or anything else, (as well as arbitrariness of that rubric in the first place,) you could do worse than discussing literature--and in doing so, you might learn more about feels frog than you would've thought.

i thought the costanza >201* >ISHYGDDT meme originated here

it contributes to people's taste and knowledge, not me-mes

That only suggests that the average person isn't capable of appreciating anything besides snide humor and image macros. Hardly anything worthwhile.

>>3907795
wow this is a very well written post
makes me feel like a shitposter bruh

>>3907801
The term "I seriously hope you guys don't do that" did, I think, but Costanza was a /v/ or /sp/ addition.

memes are social constructs,
memes are merely spooks...

>>3905607
The Penis Was.

Memes are more valuable because they reach the masses?
OP, do you realize what you're saying?
You would sacrifice treatises on the very nature of existence by men of great genius for image macros and /b/?
I loathe you.

fuck quentins bitch ass bein preserved 4 posterity via proxy i hope no austerity measures r given 2 his anti weed agenda filthy kyke conservative dyke

>>3906198
Trolley of trickery

>>3908312
It was quentin who did it on vee