/lit/ - Literature

Would it be possible to see someone outside of your university?

Smoke weed and learn to live with a mental insanity.
But this isn't a question for /lit/.

Just don't do anything stupid.

>>3862622
Probably not, I have no money.

>>3862626
I cant smoke weed, half the time I do I get acid flash backs and go into severe panic attacks.

What I want from going to a therapist is for them to help me through my shit, and if I ever go to grad school, I can have their records back up my claim that my first year at uni was fucked because of X.

Youre my only hope /lit/

>>3862634
> help me through my shit

WAH
WAHHH
WAAAAHHH

omg I have so much shit, omg omg.

Suck it up, faget, there are kids starving in Africa.
Consider yourself blessed.

>>3862634
Just do it, man. Don't let stigma stop you from seeking help and relief. If the therapist is competent, they will be a big help getting through it.

>>3862634
Have you tried meditating? You might wanna check if there's a mindfulness based stress reduction program near you. Or a zen centre or something.

You can do it on your own too, but remember that it's ok if it gets worse at the beginning :)
Here's a great book for you:
http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/1572244879

Meditation has helped me so much with my anxiety. Give it time tho

>>3862682
So because there is this one kid starving in Africa, no one is allowed to feel bad about whats going on in their lives?

Youre pretty delusional

>>3862694
give this a try, but be patient with it.

>>3862694
>>3862701
I will, but again if I decide to go to graduate school, without any records of going to a therapist, my first year of uni will look like I was just stupid or lazy.

>>3862696
> 870 million people in the world do not have enough to eat.
> The vast majority of hungry people (98 percent) live in developing countries, where almost 15% of the population is undernourished.
> 66 million primary school-age children attend classes hungry across the developing world, with 23 million in Africa alone.

> One kid starving in Africa

>>3862705
just relax about that man. If it's really important, go talk to your therapist about it. But how did your friend get thrown out?

>>3862705
Look, the problem already exists and you can't come out of it unscathed. Just accept it and deal with it the way you can.

just read the greeks

>>3862696
>>3862706

>>3862706
Seems you dont get the point, so ill spell it out for you.

You seem to think that if there are people who have worst off than others, then the better off should never complain.

Which means, if there is only one kid starving in Africa (anywhere, it doesnt matter) no one has the right to complain if they are better off.

Its ridiculous. If something shitty happens to someone, it doesnt matter if someone else in the world had something worse happen to them. What matters is that something shitty happened to someone.

I mean, put it this way. We have to starving kids in Africa, one who hasnt eaten in a week, the other who hasnt eaten in two. Would tell the one who hasnt eaten in one week to shut it because the kid next to them has it worse off? Ridiculous.

>>3862705
it's more important for you to get well :)

>>3862713
Roughly he did what I want to do.

He went to his mentor/prof and started talking about his problems, how he had ridiculous mood swings and didnt know how to focus on his work. His mentor then called psychiatric services on him twice fearing that he would hurt himself or others

>>3862727
oh man, I see. Well what is your mental ailment exactly?>

>>3862706
OP ignore this thinly veiled troll

>>3862713
>>3862715
>>3862722
I know its more important for me to get well, and that I cant change the past, but I want to get well while also not running myself into poverty. I want to get well and finish school.

>>3862717
Im doing that now

>>3862734
OP ignore this idiot. The guy he was replying to was right. You suffer from unwarranted self importance. Also, you are biologically defective and should kill yourself.

>>3862731
Im not really sure, im no psychiatrist. I have something strikingly similar to my friend though.

The best way I can describe it is severe, out of nowhere, frequent mood swings, which lead to an inability to focus and do any one thing at a time. Say ill be writing a paper which I need to get done, ill have an extreme drive to do it and then for no real reason, I see it as a joke and start madly thinking about something else, and then that mood will pass and ill be frantic to get the paper done now that I have less time. My values just seem to change on a fly. Things become extremely important and then not at all important very easily and without reason.

Because of this I get extreme nausea, migraines, insomnia, and exhaustion. Ive thrown up before strictly just from the stress of going back and forth between moods in seconds. The exhaustion has led to suicidal thoughts. If I had sleeping pills anywhere near me during that mood I would have just killed myself then and there

>>3862736
Are there any help lines you can call?

>>3862745
There is one for the therapist on campus, the counselor office, or the student health center, but in order to see a psychiatrist (student health center), you have to go to a therapist/counselor. The help lines are branches of these two departments.

What im afraid is calling and then them freaking out and getting me thrown out. A kid just killed himself on campus the other month, and im sure they dont want the publicity of another or anything like that.

>>3862751
what country are you in?

>>3862761
America, I life in California, my university is UC Irvine

>>3862751
Take it easy b, school and money are not important enough to comprise your health for it. You're still very young and you have your whole life ahead

>>3862770
I know, but money plays a part in this. Long story short, I cant depend at all on my family, if anything they will depend on me, and im 10k in debt with most likely only prospects of working close to minimum wage for a while.

If I didnt have debt Id drop out right now and go see a psychiatrist.

not /lit/ related

>>3862786
>not having a heart

yeah because only people on the fucking literature board went to college

>What do I do?
go to /adv/ idiot

>>3862807
I am on /adv/, any they arent being nearly as helpful as this thread.

I would go see a therapist at your university, OP. Your concern about grad school is real, and your description of your condition is very familiar to me. Try to find out from your friend which psychiatrist it was that got your friend booted out, and avoid them like the plague. There may be others who can help you.

I detest people who feel sorry for themselves when they are living in the first world. Fuck off.

>>3862816
you are such a retard

>>3862814
My friend went to a different university than me, sorry for not making that more clear.

Why is your condition familiar, what happened to you?

>>3862587
You're fucked, man.
Jesus, I feel so sorry for you.
Whenever I hear these stories about people being fucked over it really makes me... sad, I guess. It's so depressing. Where do you live?

I took a year long break from school and it was effortless. I'm treated like a human being, people are understanding, nobody judges me, I have free health-care, free meds. This place is a bureaucratic cesspool, but if you're sick, be it physical or mental, you get your help and you don't get fucked over for it.

Can you take a break for "personal reasons" and then come back?

>>3862816

I detest people who think only problems exist in the developing world, so fuck off.

There are lots of starving people in the first world. Anorexia Nervosa and Bulimia ring a bell?

That said, there is "first world privilege." But the way people use it to be awful to people having difficulties is disgusting. DISGUSTING.

>>3862816
see
>>3862720

>>3862820

Go see a therapist at your university. Your friend had something bad and very wrong happen to him. That does not mean it will happen to you.

You shouldn't worry about psychiatric services. I had to face them myself for a whole year. If I were you I'd just face them. Regardless of what it is just see a psychiatrist or counselor and get medicated like I did. Not that bad, the things they did back then are now illegal. So it is just trying to cope with reality. But then again getting psychiatric help is pretty expensive. Do you have health insurance? Or a family that would be willing to help you?

>>3862827
It's not about health, it's about opportunity and the ability to realise yourself. Being able to live past your childhood is just one of many perks of being born in the developed world.

go to therapy, stay way from psychiatrist (MUH DEPRESSION, TAKE MEDS!)

>>3862821
California, I dont think I would get same health-care as you sadly

If I took a break for longer than 6 months, the grace periods for my loans would end and I would start gaining interest, so thats not an option, which is why I want to finish school, but the only way to finish school with decent grades is to get help, and they might throw me out if I do that.

>>3862816
I can't wait for you to get gang raped.
I guess you'll keep your privileged fucking mouth shut about it because you live in a first world country.

>>3862835
If someone was suicidal he/she would possibly need something to help her/him. So the professional psychiatrist who probably has a doctorate can be helpful. But yeah I agree with you, have therapy. But the type where they are not allowed to release any information.

>>3862844
youre a retard too

>>3862843
Yeah. The health-care was one of the major reasons I moved to Germany first chance I got.
Just, get out of America.

>>3862848

Also, ask about the confidentiality of your information and the duration of that confidentiality.

>>3862844
Well I got gangraped but at least there's medical personell who are trained and have proper equipment and clean faculties. I'll be able to be on sick leave and get paid at least 80% of my salary during my rehabilitation.

I don't know why I would be gangraped in the first place.

>>3862834
Again, the fact that someone anywhere and at any time died before they got to realize themselves doesnt mean the rest of the world is not allowed to ever feel bad about their lives. Would you tell someone who is starving in Africa, age 25, to shut it because someone close by died before they were 12?

This is ludicrous

>>3862856
That too.

>>3862587
never go to a therapist, OP. all they'll do is cause you more trouble or jack you up on drugs

>>3862850
You can eat my fat, throbbing dick.

>>3862857
Are you actually trying to imply that people who have access to medical attention shouldn't feel as bad or be as traumatized about being raped than people who don't?

>>3862862

Are you American? Therapists are actually helpful in my country and drugs for mental problems are only ever prescribed as a last resort.

really what is the point of having a tripcode where to code is zeta
why not just put it in the name field and have the tripcode be gibberish

like 3/4 of the people who go to the trouble of whipping up some piece of shit novelty tripcode have something that plays on the name/code difference like 'FA!!GgoT' or something

wow man your tripcode is a letter in the greek alphabet #wowee #woahe

Also, tell your friend to go see a lawyer or legal aid about suing his university. Unless he actually did hurt someone, they can't kick him out for thinking about it.

>>3862873
They're helpful in America as well. The fuck's wrong with them? Do you want your problems to continue?

>>3862856
I called the department a week ago at the end of finals and they said, you go to the therapist where you sign something that means everything said is confidential, however if your case is severe, they have a psychiatrist on staff that is part of their staff and not psychiatric services that then diagnoses you to see if you should stay only in therapy or go to psychiatry. They can only advise unless they decide you are a harm to yourself or others, which im afraid I might be, since I have had suicidal tendencies in the very recent past, and depending on my mood when seeing this psychiatrist, I might have the strongest urge not to lie and be completely earnest with him/her about my condition. I also dont think I could get away with lying, they could probably tell

>>3862872
They should feel relieved that there's a system in place to handle these sort of things. You would probably even be recommended/appointed a psychologist if you so wanted to help your mental recovery after you get out of the hospital.

Our biology is all the same, we feel pain the same way, but the difference between dying in a filthy makeshift hospital tent and living out your life coping with the event.

OP, what exactly are your issues? Did you get a bad panic attack from acid?

>>3862883
Just as a reminder the asylum is only for people who are told to be there by court. Not for people who need help. Psych wards are a hell of a lot different from asylums. Taking medication isn't that bad either. Jesus christ now that is a retarded first world post modern problem there. Back then if you had problems they'd throw you in the asylum regardless or in cages.

>>3862896
He has his rights to not admit them.

>>3862900
>has his rights
And I have my rights to ask him. I am just saying that if he comes to a literature forum with his own personal problems he should at least tell us what they are.

>>3862896
>>3862903
I posted it briefly here
>>3862743

And no, as long as I dont take drugs, ive stopped having panic attacks from acid for a few years.

>>3862897
>Back then if you had problems they'd throw you in the asylum regardless or in cages.
well good thing it has now changed to retarded first world problem status

>>3862897
Im naive, I admit that, but my friend told me he got thrown out of school for a year because of psychiatric services, and I cant see a reason for him to lie to me, especially with my brother living with him now.

>>3862886
Yeah, lucky me.
Go fuck yourself.
I have neither the time nor the patience to try and explain empathy to a sheltered 16 year old. Privilege is the dumbest fucking piece of shit new-type word that tumblr shat out.
Any "advantages" do not invalidate what people have been through and many "privileges" are from extensive and exhausting work.
Congratulations on being an insufferable cunt. Thank god I'll never meet someone like you in real life.

>>3862914
would you say that your condition is caused or got worse by LSD or other drugs?

>>3862922
There's always reasons to lie. Like deep shame.

>>3862926
If you check our little post history you are the one who invites the word privelige, you're the one who sees the world as black or white into the extreme.
I will accept that we might not ever meet.

>>3862928
Thats very true, but hes me and my brother's best friend. I dont think he would be embarrassed to tell me that, and overall he doesnt give much of a damn about what people think about him

>>3862927
Thats a hard question to answer, since everything ive experienced indirectly has led to how I am. For all I know its genetic, though I know nothing about my family.

But to make an answer short, yes, im sure all the drugs I took including acid has led to my condition.

>>3862922
Same here. I got banned from entering high school for a year. I was suppose to graduate this school year but I couldn't. And I get it is far worse in college, but still. Get someone who can keep it confidential. In my situation I had a bitchy step mother so she was the reason.

I'm on welfare and moving on to disability. It's all about them 8/10's compassionately questioning you and sincerely telling you you're too smart for this world. Feels good man.

>>3862943
What do you mean someone who can keep it confidential? A friend? To be honest I only have two friends I can trust to keep this confidential, one is my friend who got kicked out and right now is dealing with his own problems because of getting kicked out so its hard to reach him, and my other friend doesnt really know how to help me. Weve talked for hours about whats going on. He says hes proud of me that I care so much about life and that im sensitive to things others arent, and that I shouldnt worry myself with academia, but what he said hasnt really helped me out. I mean I glad as all hell that he listens to me, he really does, but he just doesnt know what I should do

>>3862936
>you're the one who sees the world as black or white into the extreme
Yeah, I guess not invalidating someone's traumatic experiences based on where they live is pretty black and white.

>>3862959
I meant counselors and psychiatrists, they can keep it confidential, it is the law. They just summarize the problem and figure out the solution. I talked to them about the full story. Like the ridiculous KKK putting a computer chip in my head belief... Yeah it was that ridiculously stupid.

>>3862974
I want to believe this but I dont know with what my friend told me. Im going to try and contact him to get the full story.

>>3862957
> It's all about them 8/10's compassionately questioning you and sincerely telling you you're too smart for this world.
>actually believing this

i guess that's why you're on welfare and moving on to disability

>>3862982
If you want to talk to me my skype is TheZachadoodle. Trust me I am comfortable having a new friend...No homo between me and you.

And you guys on /lit/ don't troll me...Unless it is completely hilarious xD

>>3862886
>but the difference between dying in a filthy makeshift hospital tent and living out your life coping with the event.
have you ever considered that the little variations between each other can cause great differences. you see people around the 2 meters of height and you see midgets and their "biology is all the same" yet you fail to consider that genetic constitution and differences in upbringing can cause differences in coping mechanisms? you are one dense motherfucker

I assume OP is British or Australian.
It is still the case that the Brits have a completely different view of mental illness than North Americans.
In North America, it is slowly becoming accepted that mental illnesses are chronic conditions that can be managed with medication and counselling.
In Britain, you're either "imagining things and you should just buck up and man through it" or you're "violently insane and should be locked up". There's very little middle ground.

>>3862957
>too smart for this world
that's a really dumb thing to say, but I'm glad that you can live without a job

>>3863010
>MFW

>>3862995
Im sorry but I dont use skype

sometimes I wish to spend the rest of my life in an asylum but I'm not nearly as fucked up in the head to make it there and a psych ward is a troublesome thing for if I am returned to society I will only be worse, with less prospects for a life

>>3863047
Just as long as you go to the right one you are fine....

You don't want to make it to an asylum. Trust me you'd be locked in a room starring at a wall. I don't know it and I haven't been there. by the way OP are you American?

>>3863003
There's no need to be rude.
The point is that overall, by and large, the absolute majority of people feel pain much the same. It hurts.
I can imagine living in a world where crime is high, poverty is high, child death is high and then being traumatized might give you a different manner of coping compared to someone affluent experiencing a similar trauma.

You keep extending the argument here, I stand by my original opinion that people in first world countries should have more reason to not feel sorry for themselves, and if they do there are treatment for it. Nobody affluent will ever have to worry if drought or a flood might destroy the chance of survival for himself and his family.

Compare that to the OP and his drug habits leading him to perform worse in school than he might do otherwise is to me laughable. The problems are not directly comparable but perspective is important.

>>3863057
Yes im American, I live in California

>>3863127
Ah thank God... So yeah take my advice.

pretty sure that's illegal in any and every sane country.

Did watching Tatami make you feel better or worse?

>>3864904
Better, its my favorite anime, and the message helps you out, its just hard to focus on it

you can sue them if they do that

>>3862762
Oh hi OP I live in Irvine. I'm going to IVC. I got angry at you the other day for posting tatami galaxy pictures and asking something dumb about coming of age novels, I think. This is a little out of the blue, but where do the kids at UCI get their hair cut? Is there anywhere decent locally? I'm sick of driving out to orange or newport but all I can find here are superclips and shit.
Good luck on your therapy. Try adderall, maybe, it's my wonder drug, for quelling anxiety and concentrating and thinking fluently. I get bad flashbacks on weed, too.

Im slightly baffled. dude seeks therapy and gets throw out of uni for it? is this normal?

>>3863010

Doesn't your post provide a certain paradox? OP's dilemma is that the University will kick him out because of a mental-condition. If a mental-condition is accepted in the USA as being normal, then why would they resort to the aggressive tactics which he fears they might?

Or is this a case of them being 'manageable' and therefore they shouldn't conflict with his studies at all. If so then that's actually quite a depressing thought in itself and basically akin to 'buck up and man through it (with pills)'.

>>3864938
Asking something dumb about coming of age novels? You mean the thread about comparing The Bell Jar and the Catcher in the Rye? I thought it went pretty well, also, The Bell Jar is pretty meh, finished it yesterday.

I get my haircut once every four months when I go back home, but decent amount of people that live in AV to VDC usually get their haircuts at this place in the Albertsons shopping center, right next to that shitty sushi place and that "famous" ice cream place.

>>3864945
If youre talking about my friend, he didnt seek therapy, he talking to his professors about his problems, then they sent him to psychiatric services, then yeah.

>>3865047
Oh, it must've been someone else, he was asking if a bildungsroman is automatically "teen fiction". Also, I've no idea what you're talking about, AV, VDC, famous ice cream place. I'm on the other side of the town past heritage park, I'm not too familiar with the uni area. could you give me a name or address to look up? Sorry to derail the thread lol, I'd offer some advice if I had any. Couldn't you find a psychiatrist outside of the school system?

>>3865082
Dont worry about the advice.

The place is called Great Clips, 4513 Campus Drive. Its right next to the corner of Berkeley and Campus. Also the Ice cream place is called Stricklands Ice Cream.

DUDE. Ask them if the university can throw you out because of what you tell your therapist. The therapist/advisor will say yes or no. Problem solved!

>>3865164
I have a feeling they wouldnt want to tell people that kind of information, but its worth a shot

>>3865158
ty gl

>>3862706
Retard, the point he was making was that this logic would then follow to having only the worst-off person on the planet having any "right" to complain

OP, whatever you do finish and get your degree.

The fact that this thread is still alive is astonishing.
I posted here DAYS ago.

>>3862682
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_worse_problems