[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature

View post   
File: 1.18 MB, 1280x1416, ivao1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3859156 No.3859156 [Reply] [Original]

Were greek philosophers the NEETs of antiquity? Slavery was a common thing (not everyone was a "citizen") and they didnt have to do shit, hence all the free time to wonder about life, build ways to live and even theories about the universe.

I'm of course not saying that the neet status per se made them philosophers, it could be used for all sorts of things, but it certainly gave them the possibility to do all they did...

>> No.3859161

They were teachers or academics. They were paid to teach.

>> No.3859187
File: 1.05 MB, 2272x1704, lel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3859187

every NEET hopes to be a reincarnation of Diogenes.
pic unrelated

>> No.3859197

>>3859187
*of Sinope

>> No.3859231
File: 36 KB, 500x348, hedopig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3859231

>>3859187
Nah man, Epicurus for life.

>> No.3859263

>>3859161
>They were paid to teach.
Nope. The Academy was even set up in a way where you wouldn't need to pay to be taught.

>>3859156
Socrates, who's probably closest to what you're thinking, was a war hero and a sculptor

>> No.3859555

>>3859161
Nah that happened much later.

>> No.3859590

>>3859156
>Slavery was a common thing (not everyone was a "citizen")
Only the rich had slaves, and not every noncitizen was a slave.

>the neet status per se made them philosophers
They weren´t neets, but men of leisure. Think British landed aristocracy.

>> No.3859609

>>3859590
Pretty much every citizen had a slave. Athenian citizens usually had 1 or 2 to help with the farming. However the athenians farmed themselves, they were more serfs.

Sparta was the worst. Eight or nine slaves per citizen.

>> No.3859637

Didn't people before the industrial era had more freetime?

>> No.3859691
File: 9 KB, 249x249, dsbgvdsfb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3859691

>>3859637
Weren't gods before the scientific era real?

>> No.3859831

>>3859609
>Pretty much every citizen had a slave.
That´s what I´m saying. Citizens were actually the rich elite, but besides them and the slaves there were huge masses of free noncitizens. According to wiki, of the 250000 inhabitants only 30000 were citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Athens

>>3859609
>Sparta was the worst.
You mean helots? Those weren´t slaves, though.

>> No.3859881

>>3859156
Most philosophers have actually been well-off middle class that didn't have to work-work nor rule.

Han Feizi is the odd man out, as he was a nobleman who wrote a manual on how to rule. He wasn't interested in dicking around with what is is is-issues.