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Yeah, but probably not if it's the only Kierkegaard you'll ever read.

lel irony

>>3668151
elaborate. should i read other work before either/or?

Either/Or is a fine starting point. Be aware that K is writing through "agents". Niether the aesthetic nor the ethic are "his" point of view.

I usually hate when people use quotation marks to make their point, but I'm too drunk and careless to do otherwise.

>>3668168
>Niether the aesthetic nor the ethic are "his" point of view.
can't someone just tell me which one k thinks is the right one i don't want to have to read 800 fucking pages just to find out

>>3668176
Wikipedia...

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy...

>>3668176
He thinks making a leap to faith and putting your existence in the hands of God is the only suitable way to live, so neither.

>>3668176

Kierkegaard went though both phases (aesthetic and ethic) before reaching spiritual enlightenment (the teleological leap of faith, as described in 'Fear and Trembling').

>>3668194
that's fukin stupid, why write an 800 page book just to come to a solution that simplistic

>>3668212
serioulsy what the fuck guys

>>3668212
Because he was brilliant when it came to descriping and mapping the human psyche.

>>3668225
that's not a reason to write a philosophically pointless tome of a text only to undercut it by essentially presenting 'rolling over and dying' as it were as his final philosophical solution

>>3668228
>dying
He belives life only truly begins with the belief in Gods will. It is anything but "rolling over and dying", and isn't a solution to anything but the question of existence.

>>3668235
as far as i'm concerned, to throw all serious philosophical inquiry out the window and simply accept the existence of an intangible higher-power is to roll over and die as a philosopher. it's the route of blind faith.

You can't read his works separately by themselves, it's like a series, you're not getting the complete picture if you just read one of them

>>3668228

The philosophical solution itself doesn't matter.
Consider Nietzsche's 'solution' to replace christian ethics and abnegation of the self as preached by Schopenhauer : amor fati and eternal recurrence, that is to say a load of horse shit.
However, Nietzsche's critique of christianity and German idealism is very insightful, his aphoristic style is refreshing, his knowledge of the human psyche is formidable, etc. He's definitely worth reading even though not all the conclusions he comes to are convincing. It's the same for Kierkegaard.

>>3668255
But amor fati isn't horseshit, it embraces life to the point of it needing no external justification, taking away it's problematic nature and thereby being a solution to destructive nihilisms without the need for any faithy leaps.

>>3668246
This is why you should read the 800 pages.

Niggers are inferior subhumans

>>3668255
>that is to say a load of horse shit.

>>3668990
what would you reply if they asked you "hy choose amor fati?"

>>3669076
Well, because my character doesn't agree with external justifications. I can't into faith and beliefs so I glorify life and live it so well that it doesn't need justification any more.

>>3669102
are you saying that people that live with external justifications necessarily need them?

>>3669112
Well, at least want them or get raised with them or something. But people who actually think about these things and and decide on external justifications generally do need them or find them to be the best way to go. Like in Sorenmode existentialism and such.

>>3669124
I think Kierk finds it best in terms of psyche, which is a debatable conclusion worthy of more digging