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Just go for math. Takes dedication and is about as prestigious as a philosophy degree in that no one hires math majours that aren't specialized

>>3651390
>no one hires math majours that aren't specialized
lel

>>3651383
OP, how do you seriously plan to finish a maths degree in your remaining time. if you are going for a maths BA it should still take 3 year minimum to complete

plus, let's be real, if you had the talent for math you probably would've been doing it already

>>3651390
What do you mean that arent specialized? I dont know much about the math major.

Also im not interested in any major for what money ill get from it. I dont know how to put it besides I want to get to the bottom of things. I want to understand things, and Id rather study something that isnt undermined by some other field, but maybe that isnt possible.

>>3651408
That could be true, again I just started thinking about a second major since I realized a few days ago I could stay at uni instead of graduating in a year.

I have everything else for the degree besides the specifics for the major itself. Either way, youre saying if I only took math courses for two years I wouldnt be able to finish the major?

>>3651408
Its true. AT best, you'd get a bank teller job with that (and people with less get that position).

Math undergrads often pair it up with teaching or if they are really smart, go in to Master's and contribute to research. The most optimal would be integrating that with computer science.

>>3651410
Math is the mother of all sciences they say. Which isn't actually true but its a good tool we use to solve science problems.

Anyway, look at this way, if youre well-versed in math you're probably ahead of the curb but if you want go into business, you really have to be adaptable to know what methods they use to analyze and likely you probably touched upon in in school but that extra schooling to specialize will just help you understand the 'lingo' of that field, say business, science etc.

>>3651418
Just checked the page, ill need 21 courses done in 2 years, which is pretty easy since my uni is in the quarter system. If I took 5 courses for 3 quarters, and 6 one quarter, I could get it done in one year. So I could do half the workload in two pretty easily (time wise).

>>3651434
I dont want to go into business, science, or computer science. Those are all possibilities with a specialized math degree, but Id rather just get the Mathematics (pure) major

>>3651448
Then hope that youre rich. As much as mathematics is crucial to our modern life, no one is gonna hire a pure math majour. Its simply not practical.

Its good to put on a resume though. Shows that you got that intellectual rigor. But in terms of just enlightening yourself, go for it. Math is very interesting, and if youre immersed, youll see things in a different way. Finish an undergrad math then go all the way pHD.

>>3651463
Thanks ill consider that.

As far as enlightening myself, could I get more out of studying the philosophy of math versus mathematics itself? Or maybe just logic in the philosophy department versus mathematics? All seem very interesting

unless you are doing research/academia, having a math degree + some experience in problem domain is always better than having a degree in that domain

true for
>economics
>business
>psychology
>political science
>(some) engineering
>philosophy

the list goes on

>>3651476
all that depends on what your school offers, man

they might not even teach the philosophy of math
I lucked out and my uni taught history of math and philosophy of science, plus one of the philosophy professors was specialized in formal logic

>>3651476
Philosophy is just math with fancy words anyway. I always say philosophy as a self-pursuit thing, like read on your own pace, come to your own conclusions and questions and supplement that curiosity with books and a nice community.

>>3651485
What do you mean by in problem domain?

>>3651488
They have a philosophy a math here. The philosophy department is split into two, with one being logic, philosophy of math, and philosophy of science, and the other being everything else. I dont even know how the former department is able to keep itself as a department, it has such few courses every quarter.

>>3651490
Couldnt I do that with math as well? Sorry if thats a stupid question

>>3651503
You can do that with anything. There's even freeware uni courses that teaches entire math programs for free out there. Of course, certification requires you to pay $$$. But if you've mastered it BEFORE you got into the program, well you'll have a good time just partying haha.

>http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/index.htm

>>3651513
Well I guess what im asking then is what major gets closest to truth? I mean lets not even say studying uni. Lets say im a med student and im set for life on cash.

Now in my spare time, what should I study to get to the bottom of thing? Logic, linguistics, mathematics?

>>3651383
don't study that crap

study computer science

Hmm... you really want to extract the truth of what? Physical things or the intangible like consciousness ( yeah dualism ey?)

For physical I'd say chemistry is at the frontier of physical 'extraction'. If a guy from 1400s saw what we do with matter, he'd probably call us alchemists.

For mental phenomemon, I'd study Buddhism.

>>3651536
I dont really know.

To borrow from Kant, Id rather study for the formal rather than the empirical. The sciences have never really interested me.

Im actually doing research on zen buddhism right now.

Also, I could be completely wrong if there even is a bottom to things. Truth might not follow a reductionist way of thinking. But I dont know

>>3651543
Its not about the matter of interest if it came to seeking the truth, with all respect.

Its apparent, especially in our modern world, that there is this delusion of separation; that highly involves where the 'self' sits and that is the duality of our existence.

Its true that there are forms around us and we can study it, study their reactions, study how they interact, its good that you'd always be left with questions (what field of though doesnt thought). This would be the extreme, I guess, of studying our physical existence.

I've never really given philosophy much credit, despite me being unaware of its virtues, because aside from the satisfaction of getting at the 'truth' what ever that may be, like all the fields of though it just leads to more questions.

The center here is the study that collects both and sees them for what it is: not as games of the mind or relationships between matter; rather as a web of interdependent things that arised only because of one another.

I can definitely see this being expanded to different avenues of criticism and there's time for that but practicality doesn't favour it.

>>3651563
Im not sure. I mean, it seems the formal must come before physical. I think youre right in that the self is important to this, but I dont know why. Im going to study that regardless of what major I choose.

Still, this web of interdependence. There is no "better" way to deal with it?

>>3651575
Deal with what? Is there a problem?

>>3651595
Deal with truth, finding a method, knowing where to look or start.

>>3651603
Depends on what truth youre seeking

>>3651612
What do you mean by that?

>>3651644
There are many truths, depends on what face you try to find it, i.e. causality ( to be very minimal ), some quantum truths, some not so mathematical..