/lit/ - Literature

>>3641222
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzXPyCY7jbs

>>3641229

Doesnt explain where the reflective/philosophical impulse came from in the first place.

Same with composers

Germany is geographically located in the center of Europe, allowing it to more easily synthesize the most interewting ideas of Western and Eastern Europe, Scandanavia and the Mediterranian.

>>3641222

Germans are fucked up in the head. That's why.

Like Italy, it unified relatively late. Until that point, you had a number of independent and vibrant courts capable of accommodating and encouraging intellectual progress. A similar phenomenon was observed during the 'Scottish Enlightenment', a disproportionately high number of universities (relative, that is, to the more populous England) emerged independently. Other factors contribute, though. Germany - even when the term would have been anachronistic - is geographically central, traditionally prosperous and large.

>>3641262

Hmm, I thought the cultural domination by Germany of the divided, reactionary, courts in the late 16th and 17th century stunted the nation's cultural growth - relative to France and England.

>>3641270

Well, the nation formally unites in 1871. Goethe, Schiller, Hoffman, Schlegel and Lessing were all writing before then. I'm sure there are arguments for and against the cultural significance of the courtly system.

>>3641222
the language

>>3641302

>>3641262
>Germany
>traditionally prosperous

no, just no.

OP, you forgot Schop, Frege, Carnap, Heidegger

German is a language that allows you to make up words on the fly, whilst still being understandable by all. As such, the language itself it built to allow for novel interpretations of different topics.

master race white aristocratic families

>>3641410
Pretty much this

>>3641340
>forgetting Nietzsche

>>3641410
>>3641414

one dude -probably hegel- started writing on a subject and the tradition continued in those same towns and cities because the language was similar. it would be much later before the stuff could be translated. if anyone else wanted to contribute to the tradition, they'd inevitably be behind the times.

>>3641424
Kant came before Hegel

>>3641429
okay

Christianity

is there any point reading translation of Rilke?

Your biased perceptions are showing.
it's not like metaphysics and romantic poetry is the objective greatest philosophical tradition.


every culture round the world has been intellectually prolific

>>3641450
>laughinghorses.jpeg

>>3641410

Almost none of the great 18-19th century german philosophers were very well off.

>>3641458
what's funny?

>>3641464
Not the point.

The people benefited from progressive and philanthropic leaders.

>>3641450
>metaphysics
>talking about German philosophers
>objective
>talking about German philosophers

It is painfully obvious you do not know what you are talking about.

>>3641471
german philosophy is metaphysics, dumbass.

objective was only used to make the point that only certain people consider german philosophy 'based'

why is lit so dumb?

>>3641222
The reformation and the language itself.
There's a certain need for accuracy when expressing yourself that sort of forces you to be accurate and reflected.
On the other hand, it's rather flexible so you can do a lot with it such as creating terms that can immediately be shared and understood.
Also ((>>3641244)) this.

They have these toilets that let you reflect on your shit.

Volksgeist.

>>3641222
once I read this article, it was because they did'nt have copy rigths, so get information was cheap and easy.

they had in one time, Goethe, Kant and Bethoven!, in one generation.

>>3641410
>Aristocratic
Working class pride world wide

We dropped the a-bomb on the wrong country if you ask me. The Teutonic ''philosophy'' does nothing better than expose the German people for their utter lack of vivacity. Dead culture is dead.

>>3641815
Philistine.

>>3641815
> atomic bomb jokes
> 2011 + 2
You might be on the wrong board.

>>3641238
see
>>3641229

>>3641441
this english translation of the panther: http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-panther/ is to the original like a fifth-grader's description of the mona lisa is to the actual painting.

>>3641222
It is because it has a history of being an affluent area. It produced more than just philosophers, it produced mathematicians, physicists, composers, artists, and every other kind of intellectual. To focus on just philosophers distorts the history and culture of Germany. Intellectuals will be found in every country that has had economic prosperity.

>>3641815
German culture as compared to what? Oh right, it doesn't matter...

>>3641862
Vier Mass, bitte.

That's pretty much the only German I learned to say after going to the Oktoberfest last year.

>>3642010
>That's pretty much the only German I learned to say after going to the Oktoberfest last year.

"meine Unterhose fehlen."

Because ordnung.

>>3641229
why does zizek always look like hes trying to do the signs for deaf people when he speaks

>>3641229
I fucking love that guy.

Its Jewish population.

>>3642100
"zizek's hand gesticulations and erratic speech patterns have been a successful tactic in convincing undergraduates around the world that he is saying something profound instead of just paraphrasing Lenin." - Ronan Keating