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what are some good books dealing with the relationship of idealism and atheism

>> No.3636506
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>>3636500

>> No.3636508

brothers karamazov

>> No.3636515

>>3636506
did he really address this?
I've been meaning to read his ego and himself by him

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>> No.3636545

idealism or Idealism?

Idealism is a philosophical 'stance' regarding the fundamental ontological matters of reality.
Atheism is a 'stance' regarding religion (the denial of anthropomorphized deities)

You can be an Idealist concerning the fundamental nature of reality and at the same time an atheist concerning religion.
You can be an Idealist concerning the fundamental nature of reality and not have a 'stance' concerning religion.
And you can be an atheist concerning religion and not be philosophically literate at all.

Do your own homework, pleb.

>> No.3636555

>>3636545
and I just wanted some books regarding a relationship between the two

>> No.3636558

>>3636555
There is no real relationship. Idealists can be theist or atheists. There are also nontheist idealists.

>> No.3636572

>>3636555
They are very much distinct. It's rather silly and bizarre that you're interested in some kind of relationship of the 2.

Kant and Schop were Idealists and wrote extensively about religion too. Try them.

>> No.3636576

>>3636558
but it seems to me hard to justify being an idealist and being an atheist at the same time
>we don't know if objects exist, but we know that god doesn't
it seems easier to be a materialist and an atheist

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>>3636576
>it seems easier to be a materialist and an atheist
Go whine elsewhere. /R/eddit preferably.

>> No.3636591

>>3636584
I'm not whining, it's just a thought
would you rather I make an existential crisis thread?

>> No.3636613

>>3636591
>I'm not whining, it's just a thought
>it seems easier to be a materialist and an atheist

>appeals to his own emotion
>post hoc ergo propter hoc
Yes, bravo. Be a materialist instead.
There is no further point for this thread to go on. Delete it.

>> No.3636614

>>3636576
>it seems easier to be a materialist and an atheist
Thats just your opinion man. But really, its more prevalent to be materialist in western nations due to the greeks influence. Where as in the east, theres Materialist/Idealist/Anti-essentialist/etc

>> No.3636618

>>3636614
Speaking of atheists ofcourse.
Atheists being idealists/materialist/anti-essentialists/etc

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>>3636614
>its more prevalent to be materialist in western nations due to the greeks influence
>due to the greeks influence

>> No.3636664

>>3636628
>not realising how the revival of ancient materialism and atomism is directly tied up in the enlightenment and early modernity

>> No.3636674

>>3636628
you dont actually believe materialism is a new invention do you?

>> No.3636692

>>3636664
>Not realizing that 'ancient materialism' and 'atomism' is only a part of the full representation of the greek thought
Generalization is a bliss.

>> No.3636704

>>3636674 -> >>3636692
Also, delete the thread.

>> No.3636759

>>3636692
Obviously. That doesn't mean that modern materialism isn't inspired by some of the Ancients.