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3546842 No.3546842 [Reply] [Original]

Why are there so many wish fulfillment books for females, but barely any for men? Lolita ends in tradgedy, and the wish fulfillment turns out to be less than ideal. Imagine if Lolita was actually fun. and went into great description of the tightness of Dolores's twat. Shit would get the country going mad.

INB4 hustler trash, I'm talking about a book for guys that satisfies the fantasies that men would or could have about women.

>> No.3546846

Read true crime shit or Gor, and fuck off with pedophilia for the sake of stirring shit.

>> No.3546877

It's called porn and videogames, OP.

>> No.3546880

>>3546842
Try "Men in Love" by Nancy Friday

>> No.3546892

>>3546842
mens fantasies are about triumphing over other men and finding strength within themselves to conquer challenges. They're not about pair bonding. the girl is the reward for success or the motivation for the act. Read stories where the guy already has a girlfriend he's close to. They're all about problem solving.

>> No.3546901

>>3546892
Projecting much?

What if I wanted to write a story that's pure wish-fulfillment, like say, a man who lives in a remote part of a country (possibly an island), who has internet connection, an obedient anal slave wife who gets shakespeare, and children who are adorable and theatrical.

There is no conflict, just fun, happiness, and pleasure everyday.

Everybody seems to think there has to be some kind of major melodramatic conflict to every story, but you hardly ever see stories that's pure bliss from start to finish.

>> No.3546919

>>3546901
because that would be boring as fuck

>> No.3546925

>>3546901
>obedient anal slave wife
Wat.

>> No.3546949

>>3546925
Intrigued?

>> No.3546952

>>3546901
not projecting really. that's most stories written for male wish fulfillment. try thinking of one that isn't, and isnt porn.

>There is no conflict, just fun, happiness, and pleasure everyday.

this is the very definition of non-story.

there's a reason there's no stories of "pure bliss from start to finish" because that's not a story. conflicts don't need to be major melodramatic things, but they have to be there.

>> No.3546960
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3546960

Welcome to Lee Child.

His hero, Jack Reacher, is the coolest dude ever. He's the biggest guy around, he's the strongest guy around, he's smart and he doesn't let anything shake him.

He has no attachments, nothing tying him down. He wanders America, hitchhiking around the continent, and fucks up bad guys without breaking a sweat. He meets hot ladies who are all instantly wet at the sight of him, but doesn't hang around, because he roads call out to him, and he starts getting nervous if he spends two consecutive days in the same town.

He is every male wish fulfilled in one package. Freedom born of strength and no attachments or obligations.

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3546976

>>3546952
>Stories have to have conflicts or else it's not a story

Wow hahaha.

>> No.3547000

>>3546976
name a story, any story where there is no conflict. where nothing is at stake, nothing is to be overcome, or learned or solved or accomplished. Where the protagonist isn't up against nature or others or society, or his own perceptions or inertia or ignorance or something that he has to struggle with. If there are no conflicts, there are no decisions, and if there is no choice, there is no story.

>> No.3547004

what's with your fascination iwth anal sex? it's disgusting

>> No.3547013

>>3547011
>Heterosexual anal sex is a pleasurable experience that is environmental friendly
What kind of lube are you using?

>> No.3547014
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3547014

>>3547004
Do you know what one of these are? They make a very dirty place clean as a whistle, as well as aid in the prevention of colon cancer (that is, if you practice it only occasionally, not too much that your digestive system depends on it).

Douching is an ancient practice, with many health benefits. Heterosexual anal sex is a pleasurable experience that is environmental friendly (no carbon footprinting children to be had from it) and highly pleasurable for its participants.

>> No.3547016

>>3547014
no idea what that is. it seems to be an exclusively male fascination

>> No.3547021

>>3547016
Research a little bit honey, you'll find more boys might be more interested in you if you were into anal sex. But if you're ugly, there is probably no helping you (which is why you're prob on 4chan).

>> No.3547025

>>3547021
>you'll find more boys might be more interested in you if you were into anal sex
What an enlightened individual you are thinking value is derived from the male view.

>> No.3547030
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3547030

>>3547025
>implying it isn't
Men are far superior to women in every respect. Deal with it.

>> No.3547032

>>3547030
Suddenly its not surprising that you need wish fulfilment fiction.

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3547046

>>3547032

>> No.3547058

>>3547046
Yes, I would totally give up my happy and fulfilling marriage to be a whiny omega like you who needs to fantasise about an imaginary perfect world where everything goes your way.

>> No.3547062
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3547062

>ctrl+f Sade
>0 results
>Sade?
>Sade.

>> No.3547069

>Why are there so many wish fulfillment books for females, but barely any for men?

The difference is, those designated for males pretend to be non-fiction. Never head about Austrian/Chicago school of economics, neoliberalism, Ayn Rand?

>> No.3547074

>>3547069
Lol pretentious to the extreme.

Rand's novels are female wish fulfillment to the extreme (the most powerful, rich, handsome, and intelligent men in the world of atlas shrugged all want to fuck the Rand-like mary sue Dagney character)

>> No.3547083

>>3547058
I really rustled your panties didn't I?

>> No.3547080

>>3547058

see
>>3547046

>> No.3547085

>>3547083
It's the closest you'll get to rustling anyone's panties.

>> No.3547088

It's because women are sluts who find fulfillment through their fulled up cunts.

Men find fulfillment in greater deeds.

>> No.3547090

>>3547085
that's pretty fucking close though

>> No.3547094

>>3547088
>>>/r9k/
>Captcha: orientable raperve

>> No.3547096

>>3547083
No, I can't say that I've ever been lying there in the afterglow of making love to my wife and thought '"I wish I hadn't actually done that, but fantasised about it instead." I don't see why you fantasising about an exaggerated version of my life is going to cause me to feel anything for you other than pity.

>> No.3547104

>>3547094
Deny all you like. We don't need that shit. When it comes to visceral draw,

Hemingway is our fulfillment novel.

For lust we've got porn.

>> No.3547110

>>3547090
>that's pretty fucking close though
Oh man, self proclaimed perma-virgin.

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3547115

>>3547096
>making love to my wife
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>> No.3547117

>>3547115
U jelly, virgin?

>> No.3547118

>>3547110
>better call him a virgin. that'll show him

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>>3547117

>> No.3547120

>>3547096
Enjoy those chains breh.

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3547126

>>3547096
>INB4 anon is made to sleep on the couch because of an argument about bath towels

>> No.3547128

>>3547119
Keeping posting that, maybe you'll eventually convince yourself its true.

>> No.3547131

>>3547126
Maybe one day when you have an adult relationship you won't have to use sitcoms to imagine what they're really like.

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3547135

>>3547131
>INB4 anon has to try and watch TV while his wife and her bff gossip loudly and cackle like hens in the breakfast nook.

Hitting home yet?

>> No.3547141

>>3547135
Not really. And what the fuck is a breakfast nook?

>> No.3547146

>>3547131
>hurr durr adult 1950's dad muh pipe muh paper get a job have kids hurr true adult man reasonable muh lawn
That doesn't work anymore.

>> No.3547150

>>3547146
>implying that I've ever suggested my life is like some American 1950s idyll
Keep trying anon, after a few hundred more random guesses you might come close

>> No.3547158
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3547158

>>3547150
Using terms such as 'adult relationship' to shame someone suggests you adhere to the same tactics of enforced conformity. You claim your own lifestyle as that of an adult and thereby imply that any deviations are childish and of lesser value. I was just pointing out that his sort of shaming doesn't work anymore, since a lot of people don't feel obliged to adhere to your standards of adulthood anymore and some of them would even consider your lifestyle downright nightmarish. It's all coming down, everything goes, it's like the sixties without the hope.

>> No.3547160

>>3546842
Because guys won't fall for bullshit

>> No.3547164

I think that's funny if there happened to be such a genre for men, then those books would be viewed as misogynistic and crude.

But they still would probably be miles above the female fantasty books in qualitiy, because they would be written probably by men

>> No.3547166

>>3547158
>You claim your own lifestyle as that of an adult and thereby imply that any deviations are childish and of lesser value.

I implied nothing of the sort.

>> No.3547173

>>3547135
OBVIOUS TROLL, TROLL OBVIOUS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.3547180

>>3547115
>>3547058
HAhahahaha, you are all butthurt losers. You're "realistic" life is nothing but a fictitious illuson then you die and burn in hell where I beat you with a whip and rip your body into two pieces.

THen I take both sides of your face and I twist them while the man with his fantasies who is tortuing you goes off and takes chains and hooks, maybe even a razor and starts to fuck with your body, all of this occurs while your heart is still beating and your eyes are still moving. Scared yet, hellbound retard?

>> No.3547188

>>3547180
*your

>> No.3547192

>>3547180
To tell men that life is pointless is to give them hope. These men don't need hope, they just need to wake up and realize they are in hell already. Their pride is what did them in, a couple years from now, they will take their own lives because a hilly billy and Russian dolt sell their kids into sex slavery, all of this will occur when they leave their kids on a dinner table and fart while enjoying their wifes salad.

Do me a favor you self righteous cunts, you are not smart, your life is pathetic. Even the notion of having your future destroyed makes you scared for your life.

Quit making me life so hard, you will never amount to anything great in life so quit pretending to be important because you're not. if anything you are the most pitiful wretched human being to walk this face of the planet. You are born, you believe in a lie to give yourself a false sense of hope and then you die only to burn in Hell for all eternity where you are tortured.

That's how we role, lol.

>> No.3547193

>>3547188
>
lol I is gramatically incorrect

also torturing*, there are a few errors but don't get me off on another tangent. My point is, their lives are pointless, their suffering is great. They lie about their wives being great in bed all to hide their insecurities about why they will never be great in life.

Let's face it, if they died now, no one would care, not even You.

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>>3546842
They're called Visual Novels.

>> No.3547195

you all make a good point, why give hope to someone who has everything and never uses it? After all if a Hell does exist, it solely exists for those who never suffered on Earth.

After all, only a stupid rich person who never suffered a day in his/her life could ever amount to being such a big social reject and social tard. Wealth isn't bad rather what is bad is the misuse of wealth and misconstrueing material objects as signs of actual achievements. Buying a 20 million dollar sofa is not an achievement, stealing 20 million dollars off the backs of hard workers is quite an achievement, see the difference?

>> No.3547197

>>3547192
>>3547193
It's time for your medicine

>> No.3547198

>>3547193
>>3547193
there*, lolz.

>> No.3547202

>>3547197
hahahaha, you can't say anything else to not sound like a complete butthurt loser.

let's face it, rofl. I am the sock puppet that has been fucking with you since numero uno, lolz.

I gonnna kills u and raep ur babies and then fart on ur ass. lolz.

>> No.3547207

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?4schi7yf72uhj#
http://pastebin.com/ncKSbFzF

>> No.3547210

>>3547207
sir, please cut it out. This is death row here, you have no rights to speak.

Just play along damnit. Remember we are all spooky ghosts here, woooh spooky! XDXDXDXD

>> No.3547248

>>3547030
If you see men as so much superior to women as potential sex partners though, why do you care if the women are ugly? I'm missing something here.

>> No.3547285

>>3547248
fyi, being a smartass isn't the same as being smart

>> No.3547289

>>3547166
Yes you did, almost as a reflex. Stay 'adult' though.

>> No.3547294

>>3547285
It's just the theme of the thread: there's a sense of a general dislike of women, the outright statement that men are far better for every purpose than women, an emphasis on the mechanics and virtues of anal sex, and a lot about happy, peaceful wish fulfillment for men. It's hard to escape the whole "gay" thing reading this. It just bleeds off the screen.

>> No.3547323

>>3547289
Nope. I stated clearly that the person I was responding to had never had an adult relationship. I said that I had. I implied nothing about anyone else's relationship, so stop projecting.

>> No.3547324

>>3547294

okay, let's stanch the flow here then: women are inferior to men, and homosexual relationships are superior to heterosexual relationships. I am an old man and have experienced lots of both and if you disagree with my opinion I suggest you try both alternatives and find out, but just remember, I'm right.

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3547333

Men are more simpler, they just need pictures to get aroused, that's how the fulfill their wish.

In any case, we have other media for that.

>> No.3547334

>>3547324
How can a sexual relationship with someone I am not attracted to be superior to a sexual relationship with someone I am attracted to?

>> No.3547340

>>3547323

> I stated clearly that the person I was responding to had never had an adult relationship. I said that I had.

That's his point. By using the word "adult" you are strongly implying that no other lifestyle is worth living, and that those who aren't living this way aren't deserving of respect. But the fellow you are arguing with is saying that, in view of the total loss of ethical centralization in society, this is a meaningless thing to say since in this relativist era there is no reason to prefer any one way of life over any other.

if you don't agree with that then perhaps you two were not meant to be able to argue.

>> No.3547342

>>3547334

find prettier boys. i hear they hang out around college campuses

>> No.3547347

>>3547340
I'm not implying that at all. I am implying that people who haven't experienced a particular type of relationship - which I described as adult - should not try and claim thet they know what its like to experience such a relationship. Its like a virgin trying to claim that sex doesn't feel good.

>> No.3547352

>>3547342
But they already implied that all homosexual relationships are better, not just ones with pretty boys.

>> No.3547350

this misogynist shit..

WHAT DO YOU THINK PORN IS FOR?

>> No.3547355

>>3547350
Maybe they object to the idea of a woman having a job, even if its being paid to fuck.

>> No.3547356

>>3547352

Maybe he means that the average woman is inferior to the average man, and the average homosexual relationship superior to the average heterosexual relationship?

>> No.3547379

>>3547355
Not at all. Porn is fitting because it doesn't require too much intelligence. It's a shame they can't act so they have to rely entirely on their cunts to provide quality content.

Oh well, can't ask too much from women I guess.

>> No.3547395

i've never met a man my equal

>> No.3547399

>>3547395

i've never met an equal of any sort, so you must tell me all about your womanfriends

>> No.3547401

>>3547395
At least you can admit it.

>> No.3547450

>>3547395

dont be so hard on yourself onion

>> No.3547460

>>3547450
Not lit related and feeling unusually benign so Im going to tell you of a good way to meet girls. This of course does not apply to you pulsating gelatinous neckbeards and sunhawks and whatnot.
During rainy weather, always keep a large umbrella handy and be on the lookout for hot girls stranded under some outside rooftop, college breezeway, etc, who cannot into their cars since its raining. Drop the hauteur, flash your best smile and offer to shelter them from the weather as you walk them to their cars--Im at work and I just sat down after such an episode and I can only admire my chameleonic countenance as I think back on her arm clenched around mine, chest swelling, breathing faster and faster as my mirrored aviators (today was one of those peculiar raining while sunny days) hid my laser like glare shooting through her cleavage and into her left or right ventricle, I can't be sure which. I live in florida and I've already done it twice this week, allowing me to meet the oh-so-fucking-fit colombian Pilar and delicate swiss-origin Fabienne. under my umbrella of rampaging testosterone i plant my seeds, medicine for sorrow, summons to my blood.
do it.

more adv. on life and death to come.

>> No.3547470

>>3547460

>pilar and fabienne

wow that feels like years ago, im so awesome.

>> No.3547496

>>3547470
anxiety out of fucking nowhere waiting for Ethical Theory at 11 15 stream-of-consciousness thread leading me way deep into the soft fibrous brain matter entangled down my ribcage melting frontal lobes onto my onion soup drowning 16 babtist preachers and one transvestite leaking blood over the ceiling is cracked and i cannot fix it. mind you minding my own business is failing like the economy giving birth to karl marx shitting turnip farmers fucking their neighbors sheep envious they do not have any. what are you not even starting to become yourself in its own pool of tribal cunt spattering blood stained bloody bits i ate for breakfast were nice and not too salted.not one bloody bit.
where is it that i wasnt even looking for it before it found me masturbating softly onto my sixthgrade algebra teacher's body is ready to bless her soul in hell where she's burning and smiling the way weird fucks smile when they smell oranges from that tumor growing larger than life. the tumor is growing larger than life and life is lifer than tumor hiding the rumor down to the last Norman.
foreman's foreskin crackles like toast and maybe i'm just more normal than most.

>> No.3547589

>>3547347
>lelele people haven't personally experienced something so they can't have an opinion about it
>pedophilia can only be dismissed by a pedophile
>only satan can judge evil
>stroking my mystic in service of proof
>only jewels here, no trickle to tickle

>> No.3547607

you're literally a pedophile dude

>> No.3547610

>>3547607
technically he's a hebephile

>> No.3547648

>>3547610

i don't really think anyone cares what degrees kidfuckers sort themselves into to feel better about their choices

>> No.3547675

>>3547648
I care

>> No.3547679

>>3547014
Actually it has been proven that douching can cause medical problems such as infection. Women nowadays are told not to douche.

>> No.3547683

>>3547648
>i don't really think anyone cares what degrees kidfuckers sort themselves into to feel better about their choices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH5-hLrc1pg

>> No.3547693

>>3547058
This guy is obviously a massive troll whom wants to feel superior to over half of the world's population. His life is unfilled on many levels and that is why he is taking it out on you.

>> No.3547702

/r9k/ took over this particular thread. How non-shocking.

>> No.3547846

>>3547589
Didn't say they can't have an opinion on it. But why should that opinion be valued?

>only pedophiles have experienced pedophilia
>only evil has experienced evil

Whole lotta derpin' goin' on.

>> No.3548477

>>3547846
I think it's safe to say only a person attracted to children has ever been attracted to children, yes.

>> No.3549863

This is kind of totally unrelated, but I started reading a book called Diary of a Beatnik and it's prime jacking material, in case any of you were wondering.

>> No.3549920

>>3547083
>I really rustled your panties didn't I?
Totally. Le epic trell, lol.