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because edgy

c'mon dude i got over my existential crisis hurr le stranger french existentialism phase at 14 speed it up

>>3528362
You better prepare for round two.

>>3528341
It happens man - feeling that a character is like you is a good thing, means that your living the novel - but take a look at Sartre, he wrote a book, got over it, and fucked plenty of bitches and didn't give a fuck about anything

>>3528402
>fucked plenty of bitches
any empirical evidence for this?

>>3528362

lelele fucking plebe ive had like 6 so far had 2 at the same time

>>3528394
>>3528413
This. One existential crisis is babby tier.

>>3528413

Haha wow. Are you serious satan?

>>3528413
i had others, like a big schop phase antinatalist blogger phase efilism etc but never went back to basic bitch ennui

>>3528426

kill yourself

>>3528409
>2013
>thinking empirical evidence gained from any source other than your own subject is empirical

what are the differences between nausea and the stranger?

>>3528431

ennui was never part of mine, lots of drugs random violence and incarceration were.
last one ended with a burglary charge and 6 months jail work camp #yolo

>>3528440
the stranger is better

>>3528445
wow stank you are a filthy criminal

>>3528440

le strange by bert camels is le shittiest tao-lin tier vaginadom as revealed through a post menopausal frog, nausea is the crawling phenomenological sludge attached to your fucking face as you read, eroding your soul 10/10 tier

>>3528409
btw

>http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/Jean-Paul-Sartre-Life-and-Works-307471.html
>

>not having so many existential crisis that you transcend the crisis/noncrisis dichotomy and live in a perpetual '?' that is also a 'yes'

>>3528460
hey you just made me plan on reading nausea. i read the stranger a while ago and i thought i'm too old for being this edgy. but if you say nausea is nothing alike, i'll give it a shot

>>3528466
seducing beautiful women =/= actually having sex with them

no pics or vids, no care.

>>3528460
I put Nausea down multiple times. Couldn't deal with it, I felt it turning my skin into clammy shivering paste.

>>3528440
stranger is shit nausea's okay
>>3528445
slow down garnier, jesus

>>3528474
Teach me your secrets, Goat.

>>3528474

damm, goats that goes hard, really hard

>>3528475

>nothing alike

no its like, that times 1000. you'll overdose on edginess, stay away

>>3528500
too late i'll give it a shot

>not turning your existential crisis into a desire for the destruction of the existent

Are you guys referring to the traditional definition of existential crisis? Because this is barely redit tier

>>3528460

Nausea had a totally different feel that anything I've read. I can't describe it. I hate that feel.

>>3528510
are you talking murder here

>>3528517
what's that wikipedia plugin?

It's quite normal, it's being a part of growing up. I also had my 'crisis' around 20, it lasted 4 years.
Some people even make a career out of it, they call themselves philosofers.

>>3528524
fastestfox i think

It's a firefox addon

>>3528517

no that's like the 12 year old level one crisis sitting in church thinking "this is bullshit" tier.
we're talking about complete ego death and utter derealization questioning modes of existence like extension and fucking trying to reverse determinism and pulling knives on your neighbors as ways of saying hello and shit, thats where its at ace

>>3528483
So what you're saying is, that nothing happened before the invention of the camera? Then of course, every video and picture could just be fake.

>>3528490
>base of rogue eclectic hellenism (sceptic anti-epistemology, cynic/epicurean/cyrenaic hybrid lifestyle, stoic aphorisms for increased autarkeia and taste and flavour while rejecting their dogmatic and metaphysical thought) mixed into a firm dough, use paradox for yeast
>sprinkle adoration towards pan and dionysus
>wrap all in perpetual cultural associations of mischievous poorfaggotry (archetype building indoctrination, study of tricksters, vagabonds, saints, bums, bohemians etc, constant fluctuation of goatlife memetics)
>add beer to mellow it out
>marinate in stirnerism for a while but remove stirnerism before putting it in the oven
>put in oven
>regularly apply nietzsche for that fresh twang where necessary while baking
>afterwards apply pure unadulterated joy as garnish to taste if available

>>3528537
are you that devil666 guy or something? he has a similar writing style which i like

>>3528523
talkin' bout dat ACTIVE NIHILISM

>>3528537

requesting manual on reversing determinism

>>3528556
You mean militant nihilism in the wish for nothingness sense. Which is for faggots. Active nihilism also known as action nihilism is life affirming nihilism.

>>3528537
Then why you call it _existential_ crisis?

>>3528584
Are you looking for a fight or something?

>>3528590
I'm just curious.

But I'll fuck you up if you want me to

>>3528537
>>3528564
god that 16 year old attempt at reversing determinism feel
>maybe if i do what i don't want to do... o-oh wait...
until eventually you just realize you don't even choose the thoughts you think and they aren't even yours and you freak out and go to bed

so many hours spent trying to sort that shit out

>>3528544
no, certainly not. you're the one claiming sartre had multiple sex partners during his lifetime. that's called speculation; if you want to justify your speculations the burden of proof is on you, silly!

>>3528598
i'm happy i never was stupid enough for this to be more than a couple of minutes long problem

>>3528553

>>3528609
bothered me for like a year straight

>>3528554
no, he sounds like a faggot

>>3528564
>>3528598

you went about it the wrong way junior basically it involves the active manipulation of the fundamental moment of differance, once you make the non-arbitrary synthesis on past and present, representer and represented you can then make transcendent objects into nothingness, but like, really really tiny amounts oh and you need about at least 6 hits of good acid and possibly someone to keep you from jumping off the balcony assuming you have one

I never got the free will/determinism thing in the sense that I can't really feel urgently about it. Doesn't seem to make any difference. Feels false dichotomilly.

>>3528598
>until eventually you just realize you don't even choose the thoughts you think
even though i have a toilet, i can spontaneously chose to go outside and take a dump in the bushes.

free will : 1
tripfag : 0

>>3528639
>implying you can choose to choose to go outside
>implying you chose to have free will

>>3528639
that didnt make sense

>>3528644
why not. we're talking free will, aren't we

>>3528649
yeah but your example is naive

Oh, please. Most readers have already had their existential crisis in their teens. You're pretty late.

>>3528655
>singular
why can't i hold all these baby proletarians.zip

>>3528626

>mfw stan is hilariously making fun of you people
>mfw he's actually the biggest anti-nihilist on this board

Which part of "hurr durr alpha nietzschean ubermensch aryans bla bla" did you people miss?

>>3528626
lel, i have exactly 6 hits in my bag right now
>>3528639
shit dude thats revolutionary. minds blown : 1 determinism : 0

>>3528655
I wasn't even reading at that time

>>3528648
within the framework of mythical ego the will is somewhat free

>>3528677
>fails to prove me wrong
>posts a sarcastic comment instead
>zenith of intellectualism

>>3528691
>within the framework of mythical ego
stopped raiding thrace

>>3528675

haha, it's true that i've done a 180 but two years ago i used to actually be like that.
like, i'm not lying about my arrests and being addicted to drugs and being a general le edgy nihilist psychopath...all shit happened

but then i found freddy neech and all was better.

>>3528693
>he thinks his ego is real and not a bunch of prearranged perceptions

laughingelves.gif

>>3528697
how old is this guy, how long has he been posting here and what's his major? thanks

>>3528697

I like the old you much better. I hate this new "GET RIPPED FUCK SKULLS TAKE STEROIDS" you.

>>3528704
oh is he deepandedgy?

>>3528712

No, He's stan. He's in his early twenties.
D&E is about 35.

>>3528722
so he's not majoring in anything?

>>3528691
ugh, i hate arguing on the internet though, it's so pointless almost every single time
watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6S9OidmNZM
then go away

>>3528722
>D&E

He's about 40 probably. He's le original edgy philosopher trip.

I am 26 years old and have been through one for the last 3 years

>>3528724

philosophy.
now off to law school

>>3528730
you're like the mu trip who majored in music and now he's about to start law school as well

just like him

>>3528732
who are you referring to?

>>3528735
cannabis loving tripfag

clt

>>3528730
Stan, if you're independently wealthy, why would you waste time being employed when you can strive towards excellence like a Greek citizen leaving the work to the slaves?

>>3528725
>posts a video in order to escape explanation

that's cute.

>>3528737
Since when was that depressed ADD riddled faggot go off to law school?

>>3528743
Fuck me, that's a good sentence.

>>3528741
this is why i don't like arguing on the internet. even when you're proven wrong you refuse to address it and just act petty. fuck off

>>3528743
since he realized majoring in music was a childish thing to do. and he likes arguing

>tfw OP's books seemed pretty positive to me.

>>3528747
Can you show me on the archive? This is the closest I can find.
>I'll finish in history if I go through with applying to law school and becoming a professional arguer (been smoking the practice LSATs), or math/stats if I don't.

>>3528740
>Surrounding pressure of social dogma
>Leaving good impression on parents
>Avoiding looking like a failure in front of relatives and friends

He'll probably have a kid one day, too.

>2013
>not having an ontological crisis

get with the times, existential crises are so mid-20th century

>>3528740

i just didnt want to be like my fucking dad who hasnt done shit his whole life except spend money.
plus im like, really fucking intelligent and will most likely be very successful on my own. if that fails i have an entire inheritance to blow on coke and uselessly huge boats and shit

>>3528603
This is just new-atheist dogma you dimwitted cunt - If not a troll, then just plain stupid

>>3528752
well that's what i was saying, that he's about to start law school, not that he started already

>>3528756
>2013
>not being an ontological nihilist
>implying we exist enough to have any kind of crises

>>3528758
did you finish psychology among the top of the class?

>>3528754

yeah, actually i will you fucking foul anal seepage, have fun 'gazing into the abyss' like a faggot for the rest of your life..no gains in that life

>>3528756
>tfw spending countless moments glancing at the external entities and corresponding phenomena in sheer amazement

>>3528772
How tool the tools have toolen.

>>3528772
Why all the anger? I'm not against any ostentatious ambitions. Just stating that it is what it is...

>>3528779

haha is that you goats?

>>3528553
>drinking
>being Nietzschean
Pleb. Pick one.

>>3528758
>mfw I just realised I've grown up amongst hard working ambitious people and decided to cling to my welfare check for dear life

>>3528779
Nein.

>>3528792
I pick drinking, now what freegan?

People who have read Nausea and felt very influenced by it: what language did you read it in? I've been taking beginner's French lessons for a few months now with a big motive in this being the reading of French literature, I'm not sure if I should read Nausea now in English or wait until I feel comfortable enough to read through the original text alongside a dictionary.

>>3528791
Nah, I'm just an old /lit/ troll, originally by the name of Hannah Cleshspear, although I haven't gone by that moniker for a for some time now.

Incidentally, I find myself in a similar position to you, regarding wealth + being clever. But I decided some time ago that the problem with work is you have a scale:
(Neuromotor)-----------------------------(Mental)
Those jobs on the left are mind-numbing and usually badly paid, but you're not expected to think they're OMG awesome by a bunch of fucking morons all day. They're dislikable jobs and you're supposed to dislike them.

Those jobs on the right are populated with cheery cunts who don't realize what they are doing is pointless. You have to pretend to enjoy being a petty functionary, doing pointless/mildly shitty deeds, or otherwise bullshit yourself into becoming a believer.

So I've mostly given up on the world of work and am concentrating on making films instead. Mainly because it is sometimes renumerated, and involves some pretty useful + saleable technical skills.

>>3528806
To believe that wine was exhilarating, I should have had to be a Christian-in other words, I should have had to believe in what, for me, is an absurdity.
-Ecce Homo
Enjoy the greatest European narcotic since Christianity, fegit.

>>3528806
How many bottles of beer do you jug a day?

>>3528362
>existential crisis at 14
forever stay pleb

>>3528440
>>3528487

The Stranger is some guy fucking some chick and killing people.
Nausea is some guy being sad and going to the whores fucking a fat hairy whore and meeting a paedophile
you choose.

>>3528817

>believer

no,none of that noise though i could actually see myself on a law professorship writing articles on the new haven convention of human rights while still harboring the most corrosive non-cognitivist immoralism. there's something about paradox which engages me. something in the bad faith of the falling tyrant, the two facedness of the daytime nun nightime stripper, something in the well do to husband with three kids who's also part of a satanic cult which fascinates me.

>>3528840

Thats not what theyre about at all.

>>3528827
I've never really gotten this about Nietzsche though, to be honest. I understand that his weak stomach and drink would not have mixed, and it would have disagreed with his opiate use and other medications, but he liked a drink when he was young (the follow up of your quote: "Strangely enough, whereas small largely diluted quantities of alcohol depressed me, great quantities made me act almost like a sailor on shore leave. Even as a boy I showed my bravado in this respect. To compose and transcribe a long Latin essay in one night, ambitious of emulating with my pen the austerity and terseness of my model, Sallust, and to sprinkle the exercise with a few strong hot toddies this procedure, while I was a pupil at the venerable old school of Pforta, did not disagree in the least with my physiology, nor perhaps with that of Sallust-however badly it may have agreed with dignified Pforta.") and as a self-proclaimed Dionysian he should have been able to see the benefits of boisterous intoxication. I would say that drink like all other things can be used in a life affirming or denying matter, and that it is precisely that which should decide the verdict for or against it.

>>3528858
That is.
>not reading the text
>looking for higher meanings
>2013
????

>>3528860
>and as a self-proclaimed Dionysian he should have been able to see the benefits of boisterous intoxication
Only Nietzsche plebs on /lit/ think this is the case. His beliefs are much more refined than kids like goat would have you believe.

>>3528861

Youre an idiot, hope that helps.

>>3528445
go home satan. Spaghetti on an image board ..

>>3528864
You are the dumbfuck for failing to grasp the symbolism of Meursault fucking Marie in the warm sea and Roquentin comparing the fat matron's cunt to a beetle nest, but then that was kind of expected, stay retard, retard.

>>3528762

true ontological nihilists would never comment anything

>>3528872

i am home you idiot african american

>>3528862
"Tonight I shall take so much opium that my reason will go astray" - Nietzsche, personal correspondence, 1882

>>3528883
Okay.

>>3528855

You're just incurable.

>>3528884
He also self-medicated with hashish, potassium bromide, chloral hydrate and God knows what else. Nietzsche was no stranger to intoxication, it's just that alcohol wasn't his intoxicant of choice. It didn't agree with him. But as he himself mentions (Twilight of the Idols, The Four Great Errors, #1) it's the constitution of a person that dictates the diet, not the other way around. His dismissal of alcohol was, I believe, just highly personal shit talking.

Quarter-life Crisis.

>>3528873

Get a load of this idiot.

just a daily reminder that sartre was a subpar writer whose talent was ruined by his bourgeois commitment 'hur dur flaubert is a shitty writer he doesnt do revolutions like i do while im comfortably sat in the café de flore'

pic related

>>3528878
Nope, that would be scepticism. Nihilism is scepticism that loses it's temper and throws a tantrum and shouts "NO!".

>>3528897
oh wow that's some good argument there, well done! you called me idiot eeeexdeeee

now kill yourself

had my first existential crisis at 8, u pathetic fags r so sad

>>3528903

You're an idiot because you got caught being an idiot and had to switch your entire view to not be an idiot which made you an even bigger idiot.

> /lit/ deludes them self thinking that a existential crisis is a teenager thing

Wow, keep that delusion and live a shitty life.

>>3528855
damn I didn't know how edgy this nigga was, shit dawg

>>3528906
>suggest that there is a different in the tone of existential crisis in The Stranger compared to Nausea, that the former is more epicurean while the second more of a negative-neurotic nature
>be called idiot by some clueless faggot who doesn't ever bother to argue
>tell him to read the text more closely and to take into account the different symbols
>be called idiot by some clueless faggot who doesn't ever bother to argue
>point out that the random dude isn't even try to argue
>you're an idiot because you're an idiot because you're an idiot
>American dialectic

>>3528899

such a plebe for not understanding the purposeful hypocrisy of john paul, hence bad faith. he fed off the marxist student movement like a baller, he was as committed to "the marxist cause" as to that vapid feminist slut with the huge ass.
the man had impressive dualities

>>3528917
not really. he spent twenty years kissing the arse of the French communist party while the commies didn't even give a fuck about him.
That's not alpha, at all.

>>3528916

What board are you posting in you idiot? None of that happened.

>>3528933
read again, dumb faggot

>>3528917
Are you seriously implying Sartre wasn't an honest commie? Do you have something to back this up with?

>>3528914
so what's the true, non-deluded view on existential crises, then?

>>3528933
>>3528935
these fucking bitches

>>3528941
quite the opposite. he, along with his existentialist crew, was the only honest (& dumb) commies.

>>3528917
>huge ass

Not THAT big, but I'd hit it nonetheless

>>3528956
that's a nice plump ass. would chastise.

>>3528972
beware of the castration

>>3528956
EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP, I GOT THIS

>>3528978
Can I watch?

>>3528983
gtfo jean paul, you know I can't have an orgasm with you in the room

>>3528989
We never did see eye to eye.

>>3528941
>back up
apart from him ultimately abandoning marxism on some bullshit pretext to become an 'anarchist' (how convenient, now that he's too old to run after jumped up little commie college girls)? yeah, read the road to freedom,the first book is semi-autobiographical and mathieu is the direct reflection of sartre, a bourgeois who wanted to feel alive by associating himself with radical ideas. why do you think he came up with the concept of bad faith?

Human, All Too Human (BBC) - Jean Paul Sartre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFPKNIIRGhA

>>3528409
>any empirical evidence for this?

He's French.

I've tried reading this book 4 or 5 times and I can't get past a few pages.

Anyone else find this EXTREMELY difficult to read for some reason?

>>3529823
no

>not having so many crises that your soul has been split apart and even in your brightest moments, even under the warmth of the sun, you can still feel that piece of you dangling into the depths of nonsense and despair

>>3530909
Babby tier. You're not even halfway.

>>3531154
elaborate please

Bipolar Disorder can cause such thoughts to occur in severe forms.

>>3528341
>having a existential crisis

some day I hope you will realize what a retarded fucking try-hard you sound like

until then stop posting please, stay away from /lit/ cause you are ruining it with your idiocy and pretense

>>3534071
>implying it's either strange or special to have one
You just outed yourself as le plebe superieur

>>3533611
Because you're not healed yet.

>>3534071
retarded because he has questioned life?