/lit/ - Literature

All philosophers are good, bad and average.

average

>>3524079
inferior to Heidegger and Ponty

mid tier
critique of dialectical reasoning is his best work

Pierre Drieu La Rochelle is a great existentialist philosopher whose name doesn't get thrown around to often. Will O'The Wisp is a must read.

Does anyone have like a philosopher tier list chart? Seems like we should make one if not.

>>3524079
I like Camus more.

>>3524149
That might upset too many people.

>>3524149
from my trelling folder

>>3524079
Sartre is a hack.

The best existential work is Nietzsche´s Schopenhauer as Educator.

>>3524185

>>3524153
Camus can do; but, Sartre is smartre.

>>3524185
Let's modify this, guyz

>>3524185
KILL IT. KILL IT WITH FIRE.

>>3524185

>>3524229
But Rand is pretty much the same as Stirner.

>>3524231
You clearly haven't read Stirner.

>>3524229
This far more accurate. But it lacks a lot of people and arguably Aquinas should be in god-tier.

>>3524249
this is*

>>3524249
Why? Aquinas was a shit-tier philosopher, limited by the theology of his place/time

>>3524229
>parmenides
>not heracleetus

lelelele

>>3524427
He created some of the greatest arguments for god of all time

>>3524479
but parmenides was greater than heraclitus

feudalism is obsolete anachronistic plebs

>>3524427
>lyl

>>3524153

camels isnt a fucking philosopher comparing camus to sartre is like comparing alan watts to wittgenstein.
what work of bert (shut the fuck up bert) camels can you compare to BandN? le reble? lelelno

but overall sartre is a mid tier philosopher, god tier writer

>>3524079
le harold bloom face

>>3524503
>the stranger
>not a philosophical masterpiece
>being and nothingness
>not obscurantist shit

>>3524185

that really wrastled my djammers

>>3524511

le recommendation of suicide.mobi

>>3524492
I don't fucking think so.

>>3524079
I think he is good

which nietzsche book should i read first? beyond good and evil?

>>3524561
Zarathustra. I think he once wrote that everything after that was just reiterating the things he said there.

It's also the most memorable and stylish.

>>3524561

order of pub, skip le birth of tragedy. if youre too plebe, beyond g and e or twilight of le idols should give you a superficial understanding of most relevant nietzscheanisms without probing of full depths of freddys godhead

>>3524566

zar will literally expose you to 5 percent of freddy nietunzsch.unche his positive dissection is largely absent though you get a full dose of ubermensch

>>3524572
the greek state first then?

>>3524561
dont read any of it he was a beta w/ the biggest inferiority complex known to man, product of the silliest and most basic human desires (hurr i'm the super man alpha male!) with an irrational / pathetic fear of nihilism

>>3524586
Sure, why not, but I suppose the anon above was speaking about his published works. Which would mean stating with the Untimelies.

>>3524572
Why skip the birth of tragedy? It's one of the few I haven't read yet.

>>3524602
Nietzsche didn't like it

>>3524597
Untimely meditations? I think I'll read birth of tragedy then go on to that. I don't think any of his work is really worth missing out on.

>>3524602

inconsequential hegelian dialectic for purposes of kissing wagners ass, nothing important


>>3524597

understanding his philological background is tantamount for the freddy enthusiast, plus untimely has some of his finest wit

>>3524602
Birth of Tragedy is one clusterfuck of a book which mixes Schopenhauer, Wagner, Nietzsche´s criticism of those two, Nietzsche´s own ideas, and the Greeks into a mess which takes great expertise in reading Nietzsche to even make sense of, let alone explain. It will make superficial sense if you read it, but even a superficial reading will discover a shitload of contradictions.

>>3524622

>contradictions
you find paradox within all of nietzsche's work, he thought paradox to be inherently human, our egos composed of conflicting dualities (i guess the apollonian dionysian divide from birth of tragedy would serve as a metaphorical illustration of this concept...) so you can't really use that against him.

How about Untimely meditations then all, all to human and so on?
what are your thoughts on truth and lies in a nonmoral sense?

>>3524185
this really deconstructed my sides

>>3524587
>>3524587

he never claimed he was an ubermensch, he was merely our herald and voice. "i am not the lightning but its thunder" etc, he was fucking crippled by disease all his life, get off his back

>>3524503
>>3524519
congratulation, you are now the most clueless fuck on this board

Claiming that Nietzsche couldn´t do any better than writing loads of contradictory bullshit and then justifying it by claiming it is "inherently human" is
a) moronic
b) completely unfair to Nietzsche´s actual philosophical greatness.

>>3524229
Move Kant, Hegel, and Aristotle down one.

Move Kierkegaard up one.

Add Popper, Derrida, and Moore in rat tier. As well adding Hobbes into good tier.

And it'll be perfect.

>>3524949
he was a little crippled wimp, hating wagner anything womanly because cosima wagner didn't want his inferior dick and he couldn't deal

he's the great philisophical manlet (both in size and spirit), just like derrida is the great philisophical smart-ass jew

>>3525806
*& anything

>>3524949
Actually, he suffered from Bipolar Disorder.

1. Jesus
2. Socrates
........
3. Everyone else

>>3524587
Have you even read any of his work? Not only does he not claim to be able to achieve the ubermensch, he believed that nobody born at the time of his writing was able to. The ubermensch is something to be worked toward in hopes of future generations achieving it, not yourself.

>>3525806
He hated Wagner due to the fact Wagner being an anti-semite. It had nothing to do with Wagner's wife, and by then Nietzsche was trying to score with Lou.

>>3525956
yeah except that's wrong, he never fully got over cosima, he sent a letter to her in 1889 calling her ariadne and telling her that he loved her. my point isn't even that he was constantly pining for her anyway
>>3525942
i've read all of his work at least once

>>3524427
FAIL.

Aquinas is one of the greatest geniuses to have ever lived.

>>3526951
What a compelling argument