/lit/ - Literature

>>3455561
I m-meant his book

>>3455571
What does the first m in m-meant mean? What word is it abbreviating?

>>3455577
facepalm.jpg

>>3455577
'Merely'

>>3455557
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renzoovatore
http://theanarchistlibrary.org/autrs/renzo-novatore

He's sort of a crazy maniac though. Italian farmboy that got kicked out of school after a year and read guys like Stirner and Nietzsche by himself while working the land, became an individualist anarchist futurist dandy outlaw, wrote Ragnar Redbeard tier edgy Nietzschean Stirnerist half-poetic ramblings and joined an illegalist gang after contributing to a bunch of anarchist publications, lived by stealing from the rich and hiding out in the country side. Died in a shootout with the cops in his early thirties, found with a gun, hand granade and cyanide on his person. Did not give one single fuck. Practised what he preached, real hero, real human being.

>>3455557

Reminds me of the blonde guy from Hellsing? Some animu where he wears a red coat.

A fine thinker indeed.

>>3455557
Frederick Nietzschea

>>3456236

lelelel no, freddy is the antidote to that basement dweller's destructive philosophy

>>3456258
oh, it's you again...
protip: The reason Nietzsche never mentioned Stirner in his writing but only in private is:

a) Because he had actual counterarguments against Stirner's points

or

b) Because he didn't have any actual counterarguments to Stirner's points

>>3456258
Why would Stirner be destructive? I find him rather cleansing.

>>3455973
thank you
>>3456258
explain.

tip: you can't

>>3456176
He looks like the nigga from the Trigun.

>>3456306
because he hurts people like stan's feelings

>>3456306

youre an exception, goatanon

>>3456303
protip: youre a fucking faggot protip shut the fuck up protip my assumptions start with stirner being 'right' and thus the antidote provided targets specifically this "rightness", so that we can life in the joyous 'wrong'

>counterargument

there is no "counterargument" to nihilism (the only thing left after the removal of hurrhrhr spooks and wheels in the head") thus there is no "right" and "wrong" here its a matter of whether you want to continue being a faggot or not

>>3456545

protip suck my balls, protip

>>3456623

protip

>>3457049

Does stinger always lead to nihilisms?

>>3457079

yes. unlike the ironical outcome of only bert
camel(ingly) stumbling onto accidental nihilisms and babbys first assblood, stinger is specifically targeted at your rectum, prolapsing it tulip-like until youre nothing but a mass of pulsating anal meat, enjoy your depression

>>3457087

I really don't appreciate these images you put in my head. This should constitute a rule violation.

>>3456258

>neetskeet

>not himself a fine example of the traditional jewish passtime of anti-rational or deconstructional philosophy (see, marx, spinoza, et all).

>>3457089

>>3457089
lele
>appealing to /lit/'s janitor-pederasts
>unstapling my forked dick on gods green earth

>>3457094

thank you captain fucking obvious that has literally nothing to do with anything being said

>>3457079
In a sense, yes. A certain form of nihilism at least, in the sense that he's very efficient at destroying his reader's preconceptions and values. I don't think anyone who has ever read Stirner and somewhat understood him has come away ideologically intact. Which explains some of the extreme butthurt of some of his critics.

Nihilism can be both life affirming and life denying though. I've lately started to become exceedingly good at what could be regarded as 'life affirming nihilism' in a sort of Novatorean satyrical way. It could be said that this is already the overcoming of nihilism, because nihilism, to the individual, is only problematic as far as it drags him downwards. Some might overcome nihilism by creating new structures and systems and ideals in some way, like our friend Stanford, some might overcome it be living joyously in the ruins, like I attempt to. Some might go all Kierkegaard in a sort of well thought out throwback to pre-nihilistic values. In the end what it all comes down to is find some way with dealing with it. Not evading it altogether though, if you ask me, having your ass handed to you by a case of the nihilisms at some point seems essential in a personal development kind of way.

>>3457049
Stirner imo is more of a stepping stone than a final destination, a cleansing of 'spooks' so that one can build themselves anew... He's essential, but not the goal.
You seem so upset though, why did reading Stirner make you depressed? It destroyed my depression.

>>3457145
lelele
>me being upset
>unsuckling my cunt from your mother's forehead

>>3456405
>There will never be a slice-of-life anime based on the meetings of Die Freien

>>3457145

never been depressed and my posts arent targetted towards the procedural usage but rather towards the full embrace of such a vacuous life

>>3457153

good one, keep practicing

>>3457159
Maximator was the only free one though.

>>3457156
I like you, stan. I fucked a 15 year old today and when I was showering afterwards I said to myself 'I'm awesome' and thought of you.

>>3457162
how does one kick opiate addiction without depression?

>>3457167
>tfw never fucked anything younger than sixteen and with age it becomes increasingly difficult, like letting go dangling from an ascending balloon

>>3457120

>>3457159
>Engles gives Stirner the picture he drew of him
>"I hope you like it Stirner-kun :3"
>Mfw Stirner acts tsundre as fuck

>>3457172
Travel to a foreign country. I met the girl on ruzzle and watched anime with her for a month while I waited for her to come down (she's visiting her grandmother)

>>3457168

ok..fuck,
YA GOT ME!111!!!

>>3455557
In which direction, OP? There have been a lot of people and movements inspired by Stirner, but in a lot of different ways. He's like the Socrates of modern edginess.

>>3457184
Any of the ways except for politics, because I could give a fuck. This is OP and I'm still here, btw.

>>3457174
Not sure how you want me to interpret that exactly in relation to my message, Anon.

william godwin

>>3457191
Already familiar with Benjamin Tucker and James L. Walker I suppose?

>>3457207
>google him
>utilitarianism
>stirner
>utilitarianism
uwotm9

>>3457210
Just Benjamin Tucker, thanks for the recs!
>>3455973
Meant to thank you, I'm reading some of this guys stuff and he's awesome. Appreciate it.

>>3457204

why do you think everyone is out to get you, anon-kun?

>>3457089

Seriously. If I had a grip on the moderation I would picrelated stan back to hell.

>>3457226
You're twice welcome, since I'm both. If you're interested in illegalism you might want to read up on the Bonnot gang, fascinating bunch they were. Also perhaps Bruno Filippi who was Novatore's bro, but I haven't read him myself yet.

In a way, the Marquis de Sade could be said to be somewhat related to Stirner as well, since he was fond of breaking down preconceptions and morality and the like, albeit in a different way. Even Diogenes and the Cynics could be mentioned. They mocked a lot of things and ideas as being "tuphos", meaning fog/mist/smoke as clouding the judgement of his contemporaries, not unlike Stirner's "muh spooks".

I guess you could also get into modern post-left anarchism and the like, but I'm not very well versed in that, although things like work refusal and such interest me.

>>3457214

reading more than one and a half sentences on wikipedia might help you there, just a thought?

here, i'll even help you with the next clause in the second sentence

'and the first modern proponent of anarchism'

there are difference sure, but if you have any interest in the development of individualist anarchism then godwin is a necessary read, hell, anarchism in general

>>3457233
I-I'm not. I'm just genuinely at loss for an obvious and proper and thorough and fitting and useful and satisfying interpretation. I think I will sleep on it.

>>3457252
Thanks for all the help and recs, hadn't heard of the Bonnot Gang or Filippi, reading about them now. Got Filippi's stuff from that anarchist library site

Don't want to make a new thread, what book does /lit/ or the helpful goat anon or stan recommend for Diogenes of Sinope?

>>3457417
I'm on my phone and nearly asleep, but you should check the archives for my Mediafire with Cynic stuff. It had a howto.txt as well. If you can't find it I'll post it when I get up or something.

>>3457451
Was it http://www.mediafire.com/?926ua9fm5du ?

>>3457479
That's a friend's. This is the neat version: http://www.mediafire.com/?926ua9fm5du

Enjoy and goodnight.

Fuck everything, I mean this: http://www.mediafire.com/?zp2ppnxj28c

>>3457501
Bookmarked. Thanks. You're truly a swell guy. Goodnight!

>>3457501
thanks for this

>>3457511
>>3457873
My pleasure. I've also uploaded the mobi conversions of the Novatore epubs from the anarchist library for those with a Kindle:

http://www.mediafire.com/?a1ahc7l0cad

>>3456306
he's definitely destructive, but in the positive way imo