/lit/ - Literature

bretty cool guy yo feigned misanthropy always get the ladies

>>3412742
Why?

>>3412747
OH SHIT IT'S A DUDE

We should start with her.
Not that I don't feel overpopulation is a really big issue and we should do something to balance this, but that bitch should get in the oven.

>>3412747
That's a guy

>>3412750
No, why? Do you?

>>3412745

do you have le autism?

>>3412751

because you cant into ironing breh or you maybe you whyed just to bump le thraad which means i have le autism, in this case

cheers

>>3412754
Oh right, were you being sarcastic then?

Cool cool, my bad. I guess I'm autistic.

>>3412754

Irony isn't a blanket justification for intentionally acting stupid.

And no, just because your posts are several times removed from genuine in a "meta-ironic" way does not make them any less stupid.

Which, really, would okay if you did it in an amusing or humorous way. But you don't!

I don't even know why I would bother to reply, this is probably exactly what you want to hear.

Just because a book was mentioned doesn't make this thread /lit/.

If we ought to stop for every silly thing people find on the internet, we won't be doing anything else.

>>3412790
I post a couple of these threads every week, (these threads being screenshots from my twitter feed, and a question vaguely related to said screenshot) and they always get a shit load of replies.

If people like them, which they surely do if quantity of replies can be treated as indication of popularity, then why stop?

Would you rather I had posted another thread about Ayn Rand?

>>3412773

>acting stupid

no one is acting im legitimately retarded in this sexy swaggering brute kind of way and you're bothering to reply due to latent homoerotic urges but i wont fall for your 'negging' this time sweetheart

>>3412803
This is why nobody likes tripfags

What's wrong with it? 50% is too moderate, however. We need a max of 1 billion humans.

>>3412813
So when we have 1 billion humans and a couple is about to conceive, a bell chimes DING DING DING and a mp3 recording goes "WE ARE AT MAX CAP."

>>3412754
oh, hey stan! I love you too.

>>3412813
Of course we need to implement population control, but not by murdering 6 billion people.

That would be fucking stupid.

>>3412826
Yeah, that would never fly. Voluntary, paid sterilizations in Africa could be a good start. Do your duty for mankind, pay Mbuku Mbobwa $500 to tie her tubes!

>>3412826
Am I the only one who thinks we should engineer a contagious disease to sterilize a portion of the population? If everyone who can has 2.5 kids, and the disease sterilizes 40% of those infected at random, population is maintained and there is no need for starvation, genocide or forced sterilization of select individuals. All are equal before the virus.

>>3412826
Why not

>>3412826
I would gladly die if it meant cleansing the world of the impure

Why control the population? Overpopulation only helps both capitalism and evolution

>>3412904

>everyone must die because muh feelings

Am I missing something here? Why do we want fewer people? Shouldn't we want more, better, smarter, healthier people?

Why less?

>>3412905
>Implying either of those things are good.
You can not possibly be this e/lit/ist.

>>3412858
>>3412844
ITT: Sick racist fucks justifying their hate of nigras with the thin veil of 'overpopulation' and 'caring for the environment'.

Go get fucked, and I don't mean that in a good way.

>>3412910
Because racism. Simple as that.

>>3412918
>not aware of the African population explosion
>pretends not to be ignorant
Have fun with that, ignorant peasant.

>>3412858
>engineer a contagious disease to sterilize a portion of the population
You saw what happened to the Krogan in Mass Effect..

>>3412925
>not aware of the African population explosion
I'm perfectly aware. I just don't think this somehow gives me the justification to rage and kill niggers.

(BTW, you're not complaining about the European population explosion that happened a hundred years ago for the exact same reason population is exploding in Africa now.)

>>3412910
>Shouldn't we want more, better, smarter, healthier people?

Sure we do. But a larger population does not mean a better, smarter, healthier population. It actually means the opposite. People are more likely to be stupid and unhealthy. This is why high abortion rates lead to a drastic decrease in crime rates in New York City-- all the criminals were being aborted.

Also, the larger a community gets the more unstable it becomes. This is why crime rates are higher in cities than they are in very small towns with populations around 50 or so. Tightly knit communities have more cooperation than large ones where everyone is a stranger.

Also, look into J-curve growth. That shit is never good.

Jesus Christ, /lit/, how naive are you?

>Also, look into J-curve growth. That shit is never good.

Human populations don't do J curves. Thats for short-lived, high volume reproducers which have very short times to maturity and high seasobnal mortality.

we do a sigmoid, that levels off about seven percent below the carrying capacity. not just us, of course: elephants, horses, great apes, whales, any population with type one population characteristics and K-strategist demogs.

>>3412936
>comparing Africans to a tiny global minority
Are you getting paid to be this ignorant?

And is this why you brought up the racism accusations? To hide your own filthy, vile racism?

>>3412918
I explicitly stated that the disease would sterilize people at random. I realise resistance to a disease is affected by genetics, but the disease would affect everybody. Who would become sterile would be random.

>mfw I'm half black

>>3412985
We're not that few compared to them.

>>3412994
He's just covering for his own racism. It's sort of like the rabidly anti-gay and anti-pedo crusaders that eventually turn out to be gay pedos.

>>3413012
Who the fuck crusades against gays? That's retarded. As is thinking we have a right to pass on our genes because we're white or more civilised than most Africans. Even if you did have "superiour" genes(an irrational concept), that does not give you greater value, and it doesn't mean genetic diversity is not to be preferred to a prevalence of the genes we consider advantageous at present.

>>3413023
>Holy shit that straw man.
We've caught you in ignorance, racism and lies and now this. Every aspect of your thinking is marked by petty bigotry and inferior reasoning. You can't hold an adult discussion and I have better things to do than try to do your parents' job for them. Not that I have never seen evidence that a bigoted, ignorant mongoloid is capable of reform.

>>3413034
I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where you back up your insults with logic or facts.

>>3413034
>>3413039
Also, what straw-man? I call fallacy fallacy.

>>3413034
>Implying we're the same person
I'd say there are at least four of us.
Although I am two of us

>>3412985
> tiny global minority
Population of Africa: approximately 1 billion people.
Population of Europe+USA: approximately 1 billion people.

The rest of what you said is just as stupid and wrong.

>>3412811
>feeding the troll, even after it reveals itself
>being this new

Twitter seems like a pretty cool guy. Eh reads Mein Kampf and doesnt afraid of anything.

Am I the only one who thinks about how much worse the overpopulation problem would be if all those jews weren't killed? They'd have gone off to have kids and their kids have kids and so on.

Same applies to all those that Stalin killed, and that other chin one, I forget his name, Ipo or Ing or some shit.

>>3413104
Average Negroid IQ: ~80
Average Caucasoid IQ: ~100

terraforming mars would be the nicest solution to overpopulation

>>3415419
> Average OP IQ: ~40

Seriously: a) there is no such thing as 'Negroid' and 'Caucasoid' races. (Surely you're not lumping Ethiopian and Bantu people under 'Negroid', are you?? Same for the French and Finnish.)

b) IQ doesn't measure something as nebulous and multifaceted as 'intelligence', IQ merely measures your aptitude for solving standardized tests. And no, I'm not talking about bullshit like 'emotional intelligence' or whatever it is libtards invent for rationalization purposes; I'm talking about the fact that 'intelligence' is our capacity to adapt under duress. The very antithesis of a standardized multiple-choice test.

>>3412803

>im legitimately retarded in this sexy swaggering brute kind of way and you're bothering to reply due to latent homoerotic urges

you can be annoying as fuck but damn it all if you aren't the funniest motherfucker on this board

>>3415447
Oh look, someone who hasn't read a single paper on the subjects of race or intelligence. THESE arguments sure haven't been refuted a million times before.

a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanenetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Faacy
b) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainseam_Science_on_Intelligence

>>3415501
Die, stormfag.

>>3415419
Both blacks and whites average above 100. Your racial epithets are horribly outdated and inaccurate.

>>3415501
Isn't arguing over which race is superior sort of like listing the relative merits of cancer and gangrene? /diogenes

>>3416358

It's so sad to see people who consider themselves smart accept the egalitarian "diversity is our strength" propaganda that they were taught in public schools. People are going to look back on this time period and say "How did people believe that stuff?", the same way they look at Nazi Germany.

>>3415501
My IQ still measures 27 points over the supposed white average; more than the difference you claim exists between "negroids" and "caucasoids". By your logic, my intelligence makes my life worth much more than most whites'.

>Hurr, we're smart; we're worth more
>Durr, emotions are for the weak; empathy is an illusion created by the liberal media to control you
>Hurr, let's go look down on billions of people we know nothing about based on a trait we think makes us superior.

Truly intelligent, mature people don't feel the need to look down on others; they accept less intelligent people as valuable equals, because they know smarter=/=better.

>IQ test shows conservatives aren't as smart as liberals

LOL CONSERVATIVES R SO STOOPID

#OBAMA2012

>IQ tests repeatedly show that blacks are less intelligent than whites in every civilized country

F-FUCKING STUPID RACIST

>>3416373
>wat are societal factors

>>3416386
The black-white IQ gap exists in every single country where blacks and whites are present. Provide a single counter-example and I'll cede the argument.

>>3416385
>Implying intelligent people brag
I know some more or less genius people, and they are among the most modest people I know.

>>3416384
>Truly intelligent, mature people don't feel the need to look down on others; they accept less intelligent people as valuable equals, because they know smarter=/=better.

[citation needed]

Do so without resorting to fallacies and "but my feelings".

>>3416388
Proof, plz

Imo I think it would be good if the 30-35% of the worlds population would die. There are so many money grubbing parasites out there only thinking about themself and their own future. The world is crumbling in a rapid phase and it's those peoples fault.
I'm not saying that a speciffic ethnic culture should be extermintated just the people who makes this world worse. Just have to find the right man for the job and a system to determine who's gonna have to shower.

>>3416391
Albert Einstein, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Isaac Asimov, I could go on. Don't be an edgy cunt; only an idiot would be completely inconsiderate of emotions.

>>3416392
>Provide a single counter-example and I'll cede the argument.

I'm waiting.

>>3416398
>appeal to authority
>calling people edgy and an idiot for having opinions that hurt your feelings

I said without resorting to fallacies.

>>3416399
That was the point, you have no proof.

>>3416401
>Provide a single counter-example and I'll cede the argument.

Still waiting for you to provide concrete evidence of a single country where the average black scores higher than whites.

>>3415419
Average Capricorn IQ: ~80
Average Aquarian IQ: ~100

>>3416407
Average blue eyed man IQ:~80
Average brown eyed man IQ: ~100

>>3416407
>>3416409
Let's see the citations.

>>3416414
Let's see the causal link between skin colour and intelligence or behaviour.

>>3416400
>Appeal to authority
You asked for examples, and I gave them. Don't dismiss an honest, relevant argument as a fallacy. That's called a fallacy fallacy
When I called you edgy, I meant you were ignoring the emotional aspect to gain prestige. My feelings have not been hurt, I don't really care what you think, since I doubt I'll change your opinion. I'm appealing to the lurkers who might otherwise read this discussion and think you were right.

>>3416405
http://www.africaresource.com/indephp?option=com_content&view=artic&id=528
>Most research suggests that between 43.8 and 49.3 percent of “all” African immigrants in the United States hold a college diploma (Nisbett, 2002; Charles, 2007; U.S. Census, 2000). This is slightly more than the percentage of Asian immigrants to the U.S., substantially greater than the percentage of European immigrants, nearly “double” that of native-born white Americans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitemerican
>29.7% of native born Whites had a college degree

>>3416424
It's over, whites are finished.

>>3416405
My concrete argument is that yours is incorrect, since there is no reason to believe it. No citation was given, no proof was offered. You are staking a claim, the burden of proof is on you.

>>3416427
Yup, we're coming to enslave you and to rape your women. We will destroy your culture and destroy the world with our uncanny combination of low intelligence and poor culture and cunning deception. The Jews are in on it too, of course. Probably Arabs as well.

>>3416424
Immigrants on average are much more likely to hold a degree than the host population. Let's see the overall black population vs the white population statistics.

I'll wait.

>>3416441
You aren't supporting any of these claims with facts.

>>3416440
>>3416427
Don't reply to your own posts, it just makes you look desperate.

>>3416445
>Let's see the overall black population vs the white population statistics

What's wrong? Do they go against your narrative, kiddo? I'll let you leave the thread now to avoid further embarrassment. Go on.

>>3416416
So you admit that your argument is based on emotions and not facts. I'm glad you're honest.

>>3416441
I believe you asked for a counter argument for ANY country, I provided you with one. Don't like that their immigrants? Too bad, you agreed to cede the argument and accept black cocks into your heart as your rightful ruler.

>>3416405
Never said blacks were smarter than whites; they're not. Race is to intelligence what a board game is to a blue whale.

>>3416459
Both, genius.

>>3416441
Do you even read?

"This is slightly more than the percentage of Asian immigrants to the U.S., substantially greater than the percentage of European immigrants"

How can whites be more intelligent if you're such a fucking mong?

>>3416460
You didn't provide a single country. You provided the data on immigrants. Go ahead and post the overall black vs white college degree rates.

Go on bud, let's see it. I really can't wait for you to post them.

>>3416469
>Let's see the overall black population vs the white population statistics

>>3416470
Coherence, logic, truth; your posts lack them all.

>>3416475
>When I said post statistics, I didn't mean statistics that refute my argument!
>still trying to work out how his watch works

>>3416479
>>3416480
You didn't refute my argument. I asked for the statistics for a single country, comparing the black population to the whites. Instead you posted the immigrant info because you knew the mainland population statistics proved me right.

At this point you're just embarrassing yourself.

>>3416485
So if the the fact that more native born whites are college graduates than native born whitea are more intelligent, and the fact that more immigrant blacks have college degrees than immigrant whites means that blacks are more intelligent, what the fuck is your point?

>>3416500
*if the fact that more native born whites are college graduates than native born blacks proves that whites are more intelligent

>>3416485
I see. The abundant facts and sources presented in your posts have convinced me you are right. I don't see how I managed to argue with you, demanding that you support your argument with facts when clearly the burden on proof was on me. I should have realised, that if you stake a claim, it is my place to disprove it, since any statement is true until disproven

>>3416505
See? All you had to do was accept that I am right! Since no one could prove me wrong, it didn't matter that I never sourced my statements: if someone tells you something's true, you believe them until some one proves they're wrong! There's no need for me to prove my point; what am I, a nigger?

>>3416500
>>3416502
>>3416505
>>3416514
>Go ahead and post the overall black vs white college degree rates. Go on bud, let's see it. I really can't wait for you to post them.

Still waiting.

>>3416517
I just acknowledged that the rates are higher for native born whites. Has all that inbreeding left you congenitally retarded? Would you like me to find you a ball to play with while the adults talk?

>>3416522
>I just acknowledged that the rates are higher for native born whites.

I'm glad we agree that I'm right and that you have lost the argument.

>Be OP
>Browsing the tweets of some girl I know, see some guy she's following who seems like a retard
>Check his twitter, find this tweet
>Find it vaguely annoying
>Take a screenshot and post it on /lit/ in an attempt to get a debate going about pseudo-intellectuals
>Come back almost a day later
>Thread has turned into a /pol/ circlejerk

Nice job guys.

>>3416525
That wasn't your point, your point was we couldn't prove blacks aren't inferior. There is no reasoning with you.

>>3416532
>The black-white IQ gap exists in every single country where blacks and whites are present. Provide a single counter-example and I'll cede the argument.

You have failed to do so and thus have lost this debate.

>>3416530
>Nice job, guys.
ftfy

>>3416525
So if the fact that more native born whites are college graduates than native born blacks proves that whites are more intelligent, and the fact that more immigrant blacks have college degrees than immigrant whites means that blacks are more intelligent, what the fuck is your point?

>inb4 LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU I'M RIGHT

>>3416538
>The black-white IQ gap exists in every single country where blacks and whites are present. Provide a single counter-example and I'll cede the argument.

>>3416536
>Implying the burden of proof is not on the one staking the claim.

>>3416543
>Prove me wrong
That's not how logic works.

>>3416545
>The black-white IQ gap exists in every single country where blacks and whites are present. Provide a single counter-example and I'll cede the argument.

>>3416549
Bad troll, sad spring.

>>3416554
>>3416548
>>The black-white IQ gap exists in every single country where blacks and whites are present. Provide a single counter-example and I'll cede the argument.


What's that? You can't? Guess I've won.

>>3416549
This is correct you know. Stop being deluded.

Maybe one of you should consider telling the guy in OPs picture what you think about population control? Who knows, maybe it will encourage him to do something about it?

Or maybe he'll just be disgusted by you, and realise what a child he's being.

>>3416543
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com009/07/12/blacks-close-the-black-ite-iq-gap/

Black children have a higher IQ than white children. There, I have once again proved you wrong. End this debate and offer yourself up to your black masters.

>>3416564
>Nevertheless, by adulthood, Blacks have lost all of their gains and have reverted to the 15 pt gap again. Black adults are not maintaining the gains that Black children made.

>>3416543
Scotland
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publicaons/2004/02/18876/32944

Cede the argument please.

>>3416561
>implying whites dont have the economic advantage in each of this countries

>>3416577
>Black Scottish or Other Black
>736
>White Scottish
>3,249,488

>>3416589
Irrelevant. You said every country where blacks and whites are present. Cede the argument, I'm waiting.

>>3416577
I don't think you're reading that right.

>>3416572
Nevertheless, this show that at a crucial point, BLACKS HAVE A HIGHER IQ THAN WHITES. This kills the argument.

>>3416577
Nice sample groups. Fucking lol'd.

>>3416607
Are you black?
They had gained 5-6 iq points, which meant they were 10 points below still.

Then lost another 5 as adults.

>>3416605
>I don't think you're reading that right.
>People from the White Scottish group and Pakistanis are the least likely to have degrees

No? How should I read it? Like this, maybe?

>Pakistanis are also the most likely to have no qualifications (43%) followed by Chinese people (38%) and White Scottish people (35%). In contrast, only 15% of African people aged 16-74 years have no qualifications.

>>3416608
But if you average the white scores, they are better than the blacks. Are you really this retarded? Did you really just provide a link that proves your own argument wrong?

>>3416618
Maybe you missed the part where there are more than one group for whites and blacks. Average the scores to see how mentally retarded you are.

>>3416621
47% of African descent are degree educated. Every single white group in those statistics has less than 47%. How do you average several numbers that are less than 47% and come out higher than 47%, you fucking spastic?

Cede the argument.

>>3416618
>http://robertlindsay.wordpress.co2009/07/12/blacks-close-the-blackhite-iq-gap/

They had a sample group of around 200 - 500 people comparing to sample groups of over one million.

I mean you literally have to be retarde to take that for accurate results.

>>3416635
>Black Scottish or Other Black

Did you miss that group?

>>3416589
The pictures you post create the sensationg in the viewer that we are baing laughed at by a group, and that we are failing to answer a simple question to the discontent of our 'better'. It kinda makes me feel insecure and ashamed, which I assume was your intent. This was never a serious discussion, just a bunch of people struggling to argue with flawed logic phrased in such a way as to become difficult to argue against. You did in a way succeed, since we didn't all see through your fallacy, but there really is no argument to be had. You give no evodence to support your point, thus it is wrong. Sad clown, bad troll.

>>3416648
I don't care about the opinions of those who can't spell basic words correctly.

>>3416645
Nope, include that and the average is still higher. 19.2% for all whites groups combined. 40.1% for all black groups combined.

Cede the argument.

>white males ITT get proved wrong time and time again with genuine articles
>each time they disqualify the article for some baseless reason, i.e. not enough american blacks were imported to scotland for the study, etc.
>never provide articles or cited facts to support their claims

>>3416658
Dat fallacy

>>3416659
>19.2% for all whites groups combined. 40.1% for all black groups combined.

You're reading it incorrectly.

>>3416660
>using white male as an insult

>>3416670
It wasn't being used as an insult. You're putting words in his mouth.

>>3416670
Total from white group: 3,660,119
Total from white group with degrees: 706,213
Ratio: 19%

Total from black group: 6,014
Total from black group with degrees: 2,412
Ratio: 40%

Cede the argument.

>>3416680
B-but muh fallacies!

>>3416680
>comparing a sample size of 6000 Africans to 3.6 million whites

You're not serious, are you? It's also a fact that immigrants are more likely to be educated, thus making these results even more irrelevant.

>>3416690
Responding to yourself just makes you look desperate.

>>3416696
This is a source that provides factual evidence that a country exists wherein blacks are smarter than whites. Remind me again how this isn't everything asked for in earlier posts? I don't remember reading all of these prerequisites before.

>>3416704
It's about as relevant as linking an article about an island with 3 people, 1 being black and college educated and 2 being white and not, and presenting it as factually representative of the entire African and white race.

>>3416696
The white group includes immigrants, unless you think that white Irish people come from Scotland.

If we exclude the immigrants, the whites have 17% and the blacks have 23% with degrees.

You said any country where blacks and whites are present. Blacks and whites are present in Scotland and that poll takes into account every single white and black person in Scotland. Cede the argument.

as long as everyone who says that kind of shit includes themselves in those being burned to death it's really not so bad.

>>3416717
>sample size: 6000

>>3416711
Except no one is claiming this proves anything about an entire race. Someone asked for a single country and promised to cede the argument. I delivered, they didn't cede.

>>3416733
>not realizing blacks are a minority

>>3416711
If we disqualify every single bit of factual evidence where blacks are a minority, you yourself would also have no evidence to support your own claims.

>>3416733
What the fuck is in his mouth?

>>3416752
She doesn't. She doesn't give any evidence to support her claim, which is why it is fallacious. I don't see how more people don't seem to be noticing this.

>>3416772
Partially chewed meat?

>>3416733
>The black-white IQ gap exists in every single country where blacks and whites are present. Provide a single counter-example and I'll cede the argument.
>every single country where blacks and whites are present

Nothing about sample size. Cede the argument.

>>3416789
Yeah, but Scotland starts with the letter S. You can't tell me that it's a fair example. Has to start with the letter W, or maybe X. Then we'll talk.

>>3416806
Also, countries with blue in their flags don't count. And the average elevation of Scotland is too high for the results to be meaningful.

>>3416806
Z's count?

>scotland

Don't they were kilts over there? You can't surely be looking to prove an argument with a country featuring black people in kilts.

>>3416819
The hell I can't motherfucker.

>>3416814
If whites are smarter in a country that starts with the letter Z, sure. Otherwise no. The letter Z introduces too many unaccountable phenomena, you understand.

>>3412820
Yes and then we collectively and ritually stab a sickly old person to death with a dozen people with knitting needles.

>>3412905
Ironically, the evolution part is true. It does help evolution by eliminating the whole of humanity from wars and lack of resources. We either die or go back to square one and revert to band socities.

Okay, OP here. This has got out of hand, and I'm deleting the thread.

Better wrap up your /pol/ shit asap.

THIS IS YOUR SIX MINUTE WARNING.