/lit/ - Literature

No. Now what?

you're not interested in psychology, you're just a young kid who doesn't understand people

>inb4 Jung vs Freud war

>>3378836
Lacan's still open. Jung couldn't into Borromean rings.

You don't need to be interested in psychology to read Jung (or Freud).

Pic related. Read it. A very important book.

>>3378841
>Lacan

>>3378834
Ok, then. Whats the best piece of literature general psychology

>>3378849
>Whats the best piece of literature general psychology
Green ideas sleep furiously.

behaviourism or go

>>3378853
>behaviourism
Poor man's reflexology.

>>3378849
Search Amazon for Intro to Psychology. Pick one.

Yes, you should. You'll find him to be a very interesting read, most of all, a man that is very honest about his own beliefs and who has a unique vision on the field. His own divergence with Freud is best explained through his words and will give you yet another perspective. His ideas on mythology and his lack of fear for the unconscious have influenced countless of people, including a lot of writers. Definitely, if you are interested in psychology you have to go through Jung. Even those who ultimately do not agree with the majority of his conclusions read him at one point or another.

Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson.

Also, give this a listen. The good shit starts around 20 mins-ish, but the first bit is interesting too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8e9SxoepRo

>>3378874
Mah nigga.

RAW was the man. Prometheus Rising changed the way I think.

>>3378867
Does he talk about his interest in the occult and mystical experience? I was listening to an Alan Watts lecture where he mentioned Jung, and said something about Jung thinking if you went too deep in to the subconscious you meet 'the Divine' or have mystical experiences.

>>3378828
Science of the Greater Jihad, Charles Upton

>>3378874
What is that lecture about?

>>3378885
Crowley called it "speaking to your Holy Guardian angel." William Blake, Emmanuel Swedenborg, Jung and other important writers did it as well.

If you're looking for information regarding Jung's mystical experience, read this book. Even if you're not, you should still check it out for the wonderful artwork.

>>3378897
RAW's 8 circuit model of consciousness (which Prometheus Rising is about as well).

It's an idea that Timothy Leary came up with, and that RAW expounded on. Leary came up with it after being inspired by Gurdjieff (also recommended reading).

>>3378898
How does one speak to their holy guardian angel?

Without LSD

>>3378885
Yes, he talks about that. Though Man and his Symbols is only an introduction to the general of his work. His autobiography Memories, Dreams, Reflections covers very well his relationship to his unconscious and how his beliefs changed throughout times, as well as his relation to Freud.

"The Divine" you speak is the numinous experience. And there is a difference between subconscious and unconscious.

If you are coming from Watts and like his perspective, then I'd just recommend for you to search on youtube "tribute to Carl Jung", in which Watts talks about him for about 40-50 min, after he died in 61.

No. You should read actual an actual introductory psychology textbook.

>>3378910 here

>>3378898
I'm against people reading this book. It is all very interesting, but it is a book that Jung wrote exclusively to himself.

And one doesn't get much information about Jung's mystical experience from it, that IS Jung's mystical experience and therefore, not "about". It may also make people who are unaware of his other works to just think he is "cuckoo" or irrational.

>>3378878
Same here. I've only just got into RAW, but fucking hell he's blowing my mind. I'm learning so much about everything; the way I view reality, the way I view myself, the way I view the way I view things... And unlike a lot of philosophy, I feel humbled, but really positive and happy. He's like an oracle that understands psychology, semantics, philosophy, all science fields, how everything fits together in various models, and can present everything from a neutral unbiased place... I reckon he could pull any teen out of an existential crisis.

>>3378911
Study Western Hermeticism, Alchemy, Gnosticism, Psychotherapy, Eastern Esotercism (namely the various forms of yoga and meditation) and so on.

This alchemical process of "speaking to your Holy Guardian Angel" is The Great Work you may have heard Rosicrucians or Freeemasons or other occultists refer to.

Jung did it after his split from Freud, while experiencing a mid life crisis. He thought he was going mad but instea, and the result was The Red Book. It's essentially the antithesis of Thus Spake Zarathustra (any pretty much any other dreck Nietzsche came up with).

>>3378923
Why are you against reading it? Sure it was private, but it was his family that decided to release it. It's essentially structured the same as Nietzsche's "Zarathustra" except that the conclusions are much more empowering and beautiful.

>>3378931
*but instead he wrote feverishly and the result was The Red Book

>>3378923
I've got the red book in pdf. I had a look at it, the pictures are interesting, but I wasn't sure the content was worth reading just yet, since I haven't even read man and his symbols

>>3378931
Can you recommend any books on those subjects?

I've got evola's hermeticism book, and titus burckhardt's alchemy

>>3378955
Read Man and His Symbols first. Get an understanding for Jung's archetypes and his methods (active imagination in particular). Then read The Red Book.

>>3378940
>but it was his family that decided to release it
I don't care the slightest about that, I have to admit.

But I stated my points. It may be impressive, but it can also make people twist their noses to other sides of Carl Jung that are more accessible and that I see as better starting points. To be thrown directly into the esoteric is to expect a reaction, whether his exoteric side speaks just as much and can make people understand the reasons the Red Book even exist.

People are already talking of pure mysticism here in this thread. No wonder some guys refuse to even read Jung...

>>3378958
I'd stay away from Evola until you're more versed in the occult. Not that he wasn't brilliant, but his work is extremely heavy. Read Prometheus Rising, as suggested earlier, then read the following:

The Golden Dawn - Israel Regardie
A New Model of The Universe - PD Ouspensky
The Middle Pillar - Israel Regardie
Initiation Into Hermetics - Franz Bardon
Three Books of Occult Philosophy - Heinrich Agrippa
Book 4 - Aleister Crowley
Mystical Qabalah - Dion Fortune

That should be good enough for now.

>>3378969
>People are already talking of pure mysticism here in this thread. No wonder some guys refuse to even read Jung

Then let them read Freud. Who really cares. The mystical experience is a personal one.

>>3378987
Forget to add, if you read the Agrippa book make sure you get a modern translation. It was written in the 1500's.

>>3378987
I've read evola's 3 main books and metaphysics of war, which I why I was considering the hermeticism one.

>>3378993
True. But not the only experience to get from Jung, though everyone jump to that and nothing else.

OP asked for psychology and Jung. Certainly he will go through Freud. I'm saying he should also go for Jung too.

And Red Book is interesting, but it's the odd one out on Jung's bibliography that will serve him for other interests and on another level.

>>3379013 here
Fuck, I'm not op btw. I always do this...