/lit/ - Literature

Tell that to Poe

>>3374553
>implying success == living

>>3374557
That fucker didn't commit suicide, what are you talking about?

>>3374563
Brainwashed by the XX century shitheads, aren't you?

>>3374570
I implied nothing of the sort.

What I said - explicitly, with no use for implications - was that suicide equals failure.

>>3374588
I'm not him, but yes, you implied that.

Also, you apparently don't know what "imply" means. You're not noticing how you implied even...

Actually a retarded opinion. I'll tell you why.

1. Suicide is not the result of failure. Plenty of successful people have killed themselves.
2. The condition that resulted in suicide may not have presented itself at the time a person wrote the book.
3. A story can not be invalidated.
4. A philosophy cannot be invalidated by the actions of one man, regardless of who he was.

Youre not taking into account health problems which can be a cause.

How the fuck did you relate someone's life's successfulness with his literary achievements?

A person may commit suicide, for in destroying his life he destroys nothing of value.

Some interesting notes about the picture, a la physics:

>The first car will reach the ground in approx. .9 seconds
>The first car will be travelling at approx. 12.6 m/s when it does so
>The first car will cover a distance of approx. 8 meters before hitting the ground

~*~The More You Know~*~

>>3374610
> Plenty of successful people have killed themselves.
Nobody who thinks of themselves as successful kills themselves.
>The condition that resulted in suicide may not have presented itself at the time a person wrote the book.
True.
>A story can not be invalidated.
Spoken like someone who's never read Marx, or Rand, or a bunch of other things. Just as how opinions can be invalidated by facts, so can stories be invalidated.
>A philosophy cannot be invalidated by the actions of one man, regardless of who he was.
Tell that to Jesus, you coward.

>Suicide is perfect proof of personal failure.
Prove it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_the_Author

This link needs to be stickied.

>>3376651
>Just as how opinions can be invalidated by facts, so can stories be invalidated.
Then what would invalidate stories? Elaborate.

>not making your death an extension of your art

>>3376664
captcha please

Cool philosophy of suicide thread bro.

The only people who commit suicide are creative/intellectuals or people from third world countries

>>3376651
>Nobody who thinks of themselves as successful kills themselves.
Even if that were true, that still doesn't mean they weren't.

>>3376663
Ghosts aren't real so Hamlet is bad. DUH!

>>3376555
What is of value? Nothing is of any value.

>>3377005
I think that was the point.

>>3377010
So why don't you just kill yourself?

>>3377026
No need to get huffy.
And also, because I really like things.

>>3377029
But nothing you like and your own existence has no inherent value

>>3377036
So?

>Doesn't suicide invalidate all authority the author could have had?

Unless the author writes self help books, I don't see how you can say that.

>>3377038
So what's the point

>>3377040
Enjoying pretty things.

>>3374568
>That fucker didn't commit suicide, what are you talking about?
Purely speculation. Nothing is really known what happened to Poe but suicide has been questioned

>>3377045
But I can't anymore. I just feel disconnected and mentally dead, I've committed intellectual suicide and lost my identity

>>3377047
Drink chocolate milk.

>>3377053
Strawberry is better

I sometimes wonder if killing myself is a good thing to do.
See, there's nothing wrong on the outside: good job, high pay, good school, good looking.
But that's all. I have nothing else to do in my life. I've traveled a lot, and I think that it was boring. I don't travel anymore because it doesn't do anything to me. Mountains, jungles, sea, beach. Nah, I don't give a shit. I am dead in the inside. I don't care if my life has to be like that until I die. But I don't think that I wouldn't mind death.
The only thing halting me to do so, is that deep inside of me, there's still a ray of hope and dreams. Maybe that's why my body is still moving so it could grab it and pull the celestial curtain, only to reveal the truth of my existence.
Maybe that's why I am still alive today. Maybe not. I don't care.

>>3377055
I did, it didn't help.

>>3377061
It doesn't matter. After you die you will come back in a sense, not because of spiritual religious shit but because of science.

Once we understand consciousness and how to manipulate it and understand spacetime we will bring back all human consciousness and you will live in the utopia of freedom that is inevitable in the next millennium.

So it's up to you. Does this place in time and this existence you are living seem worthwhile to you? If not, take the shortcut to where we all go anyway.

>>3377055
Strawberry is pretty awesome.
>Mixing strawberry and chocolate milk.

>>3377067
Buy your favorite pudding cup or cookie. Put it on your shelf and think ALL day about how good that cookie is going to be when you finally eat it. Don't let yourself get distracted by unnecessary things.

>>3377073
I don't even think I want to exist. I don't even want to interact with anything anymore and I don't give a shit. I don't feel sadness nor happiness, I don't even know what are these anymore. I don't feel to cry and I don't even feel to smile.
But again, I still live on, I still eat and sleep, because maybe there's some kind of power pushing me, motivating me to discover myself. And maybe I won't be disappointed, maybe I will change, maybe I will find a soul, even if it will take years. I give myself a chance, because even if all of this search is fruitless, I won't be disappointed because I don't give a damn. I don't even care about sex, I don't know what does it feel like and I don't give a fuck, I'm not even frustrated, I had a chance to lay down but I refused it at the last second because I didn't care, my body didn't care.
And yet I wake up every morning, doing my best.

>>3377078
>Buy your favorite pudding cup or cookie. Put it on your shelf and think ALL day about how good that cookie is going to be when you finally eat it. Don't let yourself get distracted by unnecessary things.
I might actually do this

>>3377096
Good luck.

>>3374553
>ad hominem

/thread

>>3374553
stupid imperials

>>3374553
That picture would make a great album cover. Also, no.

>>3377073
>Once we understand consciousness and how to manipulate it and understand spacetime we will bring back all human consciousness and you will live in the utopia of freedom that is inevitable in the next millennium.
Holy shit, I seriously hope you are joking and don't believe this, but here we can never tell how stupid a person can be.

Why is /lit/ filled with idiots now?

>>3377547
Shut up. I'm preparing my mind with crystal healing. I'll die one day, but I'll wake up once kurzweils machine downloads my consciousness from the abyss.

>>3377146
ad hominem isn't necessarily fallacious

>>3377545
>>>/mu/