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3348074 No.3348074 [Reply] [Original]

What do you guys mean by essential doorstopper?

>> No.3348087

fat books general

>> No.3348089
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3348089

It means if you need to leave, ie: go out through a door, these books stop you, because they're good.

>> No.3348095

No, it's a reference to Huxley's Doors of Perception. It means they're realistist novels, unconcerned with metaphysics, surrealism, dreams, etc

>> No.3348094

It means a group of lit users contributed to a thread made to make the chart, they decided what long books they thought were essential to lit users.

>> No.3348097

how about Moby Dick?

>> No.3348099

>>3348095
Infinite Jest has those subjects you mentioned.

>> No.3348100

I wonder who else read all these books besides Harold Bloom.

>> No.3348102

>>3348095

>Doors of Perception
>implying either Blake or Huxley are "realists"
>confirmed for not having read the authors you namedrop

>> No.3348103

>>3348100

Harold Bloom couldn't finish Ulysses, but neither did anybody else, so he writes about it and everybody assumes he has.

>jewrubbinghands.jpg

>> No.3348111

I am so confused, I thought /lit/ hated Atlas Shrugged...

>> No.3348114
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>>3348099
>>3348102
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolled

>> No.3348115

>>3348111
I fucking hate Ayn Rand.

Pretty sure it's just a joke on how giant all these novels are.

>> No.3348132

Gone With The Wind would apply here.

>> No.3348139

>>3348097
The list is supposed to be for books 800+ pages long. I don't think Moby Dick qualifies.

>> No.3348141

>>3348139

My copy of Moby-Dick (hyphen, faggot) is 860 pages long.

>> No.3348147

>>3348115
Not to say that I liked the book, but I'd be willing to call it 'essential' reading. She's talked about a lot, and it's nice being one of the few who knows what's being said.

>> No.3348152

It means that you will be so captivated by the book the door won't move at all, it seems like time will have stopped.

>> No.3348155

>>3348147

You don't need to read Atlas fucking Shrugged in its entirety to know that Objectivism is bullshit.

>> No.3348157

>>3348115
There was a thread a long time ago to make an essential list of doorstoppers.

This was an unfinished version of it.

>> No.3348347

ALL IT MEANS IS THAT THEY ARE LONG BOOKS
YOU COULD USE THEM AS A DOORSTOPPER
IF YOU DONT HAVE THE INTUITION TO FIGURE THIS OUT YOU WONT BE ABLE TO READ THESE BOOKS

>> No.3348439

>>3348155
>You don't need to read Atlas fucking Shrugged in its entirety to know that Objectivism is bullshit.

Only in the same way that Marxism is bullshit. Both are political ideologies founded on spurious philosophy. However, the economic implications and political ideology itself, aside from the philosophy, is actually quite good.

>> No.3348442

>>3348439
>However, the economic implications and political ideology itself, aside from the philosophy, is actually quite good.
If you include philosophy, Marxism is still very good.

>> No.3348483

>>3348442
>Marxism is still very good.

"Hey. Hey, Engels. Did you hear about that Evolution theory from some Darwin guy?"

"No, I didn't, Karl. What's it about?"

"Well, on the surface it's about everyone having a common ancestor, but I can use it for my theory."

"How so, Karl?"

"I can base communism on dialectical materialism with a sneaky appeal to nature."

"Karl, you are a genius."

>> No.3348490

>>3348483
Communist Manifesto was before the Origin of the Species.

>"Karl, you are a genius."
>"I know, now to perfect my Time Machine and sell the story to this HG Wells chap."

>> No.3348510

>>3348141
go to hell

>> No.3348515

>>3348490
"...but Marx and Engels themselves immediately recognised the significance of Darwin’s theory when On the Origin of Species appeared 150 years ago. Engels wrote to Marx in 1859, just after he had read the first edition of Darwin’s book:

"Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished, and that has now been done. Never before has so grandiose an attempt been made to demonstrate historical evolution in Nature, and certainly never to such good effect. One does, of course, have to put up with the crude English method."

The last sentence is a reservation that Engels and Marx held—only in private it must be stressed—regarding the methodological approach of Darwin. But throughout their lives they insisted on the importance of Darwin’s work. Teleology, meaning a divine purpose which was working itself out in nature, had been demolished."

>There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished, and that has now been done.
>Teleology, meaning a divine purpose which was working itself out in nature, had been demolished.
Marx acknowledged the flaw in communism, and realised he could use an appeal to nature to conceal it.

>> No.3348519

>>3348515

What are you quoting?

>> No.3348530

I thought it was just something you should have on the bookshelf so, when visited, you seem really cool and the books strike up a conversation

>> No.3348538

>>3348519
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2009/06/dar1-j17.html

"Darwin’s work is most important and suits my purpose in that it provides a basis in natural science for the historical class struggle." - Marx

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3349416

These are the doorstoppers I've read, anything over 800 pages. We should make a proper picture though, that one in the OP's picture is horrible. Where are all the modern works? And why are the books divided into two groups?

>> No.3349420

>>3348094
>It means a group of lit users contributed to a thread made to make the chart, they decided

No, it doesn't.

>> No.3349424

>>3348074

a book that is heavy enough to prevent the opening of a pre-selected door

>> No.3349507

Just finished Big Breasts and Wide Hips by Mo Yan. 640 p.
Disgusting book :3

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>>3348074
>Flavius Josephus - Jewish Antiquities
>Khazarian Euro-jew painting for a cover.

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>>3349424
>door-stopper
>prevent the opening of a door

>> No.3351344

>>3351324
>pre-selected

it is a code-locked door with such a book taped over its keyhole; were the keyhole open, one would be able to peer inside and view the secret combination, written in bold print on the wall opposite the door.

>> No.3351433

>>3348347
Not necessarily. One might have just not heard of many of these books and not been able to make the connection due to their lack of knowledge of how long they are. Why are they posting /lit/ then? Who the fuck knows, but bully for them.