/lit/ - Literature

Average tripfag

you aren't otaku kami u fuckhead tripfag, don't even -THINK- you have the heteronormative, upper-middle class privilege to DARE post a commentary online about a work you read.

EVER.

>>3332824
>>3332825
Typical Anti-Lin shitposters.

Hamsters and gmail chat are cute and make for great literature, I agree.

You probably think Hemingway is a greater author than Faulkner.

>>3332881
Are you the same type of guy who cries about 'hipsters' and 'faggots'?
Are you the same type of guy who makes those 'fuck swag' or 'fuck justin bieber' comments on YT videos?

Are you the same kind of guy who thinks Nolan is a good director?
Are you the same kind of guy who thinks BrBa or The Wire are good TV?


Just wondering. All honest questions.

>>3332897

No.
No.

I loved The Prestige.
Curb Your Enthusiasm is all I need.

Tao Lin is a great writer, I agree. I also like The Wire though. If The Wire isn't good TV then I don't know what is.

>>3332897
>Are you the same kind of guy who thinks BrBa or The Wire are good TV?
Great we now have tripfags from /tv/ who don't even have any taste within their own small field

>>3332924
>we


Why do you deflect any confrontation or oppositing tastes to a projected sense of collective?
Anyway, the purpose of the thread is so clear cut.
If 'you' (individual/collective/schizo) care so much about a clean posting enviroment, don't shitpost because any of the commentary upset you.

reviews
Created Monday 07 January 2013


>Kitchens: The Culture of Restaurant Work:

2/5, dry as shit, I didn't expect it to be so academic and redundant when I bought it but that's sociology for you. i'm not particularly upset about "wasting" my time on it but i'd rather read some pulpy ass kitchen confidential type thing than this.

>Latin Alive: The Survival of Latin in English and the Romance Languages

2.5/5, adequately written pop-linguistics, but way too much emphasis on Latin's relationship with english which is just a cash grab, and way too little on portuguese or rumanian. also, it gives an overview of latin grammar at the beginning which is so poor it was clearly meant to be just filling. interesting nonetheless.

>Goodbye to Berlin

5/5. the prose is functional but still comes around to a nice insight here and there, it's more of a 'mood' piece than anything else. the rating is partly for personal, it resonated with my experiences in such a way that i can't overcome my biases so i don't even try. but it's good, truthfully.

10/10 on op tho.

what do you think is good television?

1. Eeee Eee Eeeee

10/10 Best book I've ever read. Would recommend to avid, serious readers. Prose was completely un-purple. Says more about the human condition than any book written in the past thirty years.

2. Eeee Eee Eeeee

10/10 Best book I've ever read. Would recommend to avid, serious readers. Prose was completely un-purple. Says more about the human condition than any book written in the past thirty years.

3. Eeee Eee Eeeee

10/10 Best book I've ever read. Would recommend to avid, serious readers. Prose was completely un-purple. Says more about the human condition than any book written in the past thirty years.

>>3332941
>don't shitpost

>>3332985
>what do you think is good television?


No Reservations
Louie

>>3333012

>Louie

Hardly shocking you found Tao Lin enjoyable

>>3333012
huh. you're not an idiot.

pleasant surprise.

..

The Corrections: 9/10
Franzen could get a little self-indulgent sometimes, but overall I think he's one of the best writers writing about how family life is in modern America. Believable characters and an interesting plot kept me interested

Everything is Illuminated: 8/10
I really loved the parts of the book where Alex was narrating the story, but for some reason I couldn't get into the back story of Safran Foer's family background. I don't know why, maybe I'll have to re-read it. But the parts I did enjoy I REALLY enjoyed

The Kite Runner: 10/10
Amazing story, wonderful characters, and written so brilliantly that I couldn't put it down. Definitely one of the best contemporary novels I've read.

>>3333216
You're a really easy grader.

>>3333226
I guess the past few books I've read have really impressed me. Or maybe I am a really easy grader, I'm not sure. I'm not as critical as most people on /lit/ That isn't to say I like absolutely everything of course.

The dark tower series by Stephen king 9001/10
So amazing there's no words to describe ho good they are

>>3333236
You must be really into literary realism.

The Ticket That Exploded by William S. Burroughs 9/10
A very well though out attack on language and metanarratives.

Scorch Atlas by Blake Butler 9/10
Everything at the core of this novel is about the disintegration. At the core of this book the family life and dreams are destroyed. Fantastic piece.

The Insurgents by Noah Cicero 8/10
A fun book with great characters and strange situations. Towards the end it gets really sad and very introspective. Cicero has a voice that feels conversational yet very critical, just like a friend.

>>3332817
hugo cabret 8/10 - my daughter made me read it. it was predictable, but sweet.
dorian gray 8/10 - started as the best book I'd ever read, then dragged a bit in the middle. I predicted the ending, which bummed me out.
secret garden 8/10 - again, started fantastically, dragged a bit in the middle, haven't hit the end yet. never read this in school and figured what the hell.

>>3333262
>A very well though out attack on language and metanarratives.

Please describe how Burroughs attacks language and metanarratives in The Ticket That Exploded.

>>3334247
He takes the idea of language and looks at it from as being a self sustaining virus that creates images and ideas in peoples heads that can be easily manipulated through metanarrratives. In the novel Burroughs sets up a method of destroying metanarratives and language through cut-ups which is really the complete deconstruction and rearranging of words randomly.

To me he is saying these words that have brought fear, manipulation and labels can be easily destroyed by rubbing out the word, by destroying by the foundation what a word is and represents and using it against itself. I am sure my reasoning is a bit clumsy but that is because I haven't finished the Nova Trilogy yet.

>>3334247
Did you read it? What did you think of it?

>>3332893
Nobody thinks that.

>>3334263
Sounds reasonable. Was this Burrough's intention or is it your reading of it?

>>3334298

What a silly question.

Blood Meridian: 10/10
Second time reading it. We all know it's the shiz, no need to explain.

The Broom of the System: 5/10
Too derivative of Pynchon for my liking, DFW had not yet found his "voice." Whatever that means.

The Crying of Lot 49: 9/10
Short but incredibly dense. Found myself going on little investigative adventures of my own every couple of pages, having to research allusions and whatnot. Don't think I've ever had so much fun reading a novella.

>>3334298
It am pretty sure it was his own intention. Also on your first post, were you trying to be condescending?

>>3334306
DFW hated The Broom of the System and even called it a novel written by an intelligent 14 year old.

>>3333020
Louie is great television, you pleb.
I suppose you think Community is cutting edge comedy?

>>3334313
That's interesting. It certainly isn't up to his usual standard, so I'm not surprised. Do you have any idea where he made those comments?

>>3334314

Hell, no.

Both shows are painfully mediocre.

>>3334317
I heard it from his biographer during a lecture. He said he found them in one of his letters to ... I think Don Dellilo? or someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc_UlODoowU

It is pretty long discussion but I believe it was towards the beginning where he said it

>>3334326
Actually scratch that it wasn't Don Dellilo.

He says it here.

http://youtu.be/Xc_UlODoowU

>>3334318

you're delusional. louie is a great show and far from mediocre.

hi

>>3334318
I'm fascinated to know which comedies you consider to be of a high quality then?

>>3334326
>>3334334
Thanks, man. Appreciate the link.

>>3334336

I enjoyed much of the first season despite the poor acting and the crude attempts at drama, but the second and third are hardly even watchable. Especially the third. His stand-up is the only reason to watch the damn thing most of the time.

>>3334341

Curb Your Enthusiasm
Arrested Development
Fawlty Towers
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
The Tick (live action)
Cromartie High School

>>3334353
Your first three choices are actually not bad, it's clear you have some taste. I'm amazed you can't see how good Louie is.

>>3334353
>crude attempts at drama

Louie's "attempts" at drama are more subtle, honest and moving than most ACTUAL dramas currently on television. Fucking Downton Abbey and Homeland can suck a dick.

>>3334380
I think you need to watch some Mad Men.

>>3334380
>>3334372
>>3334353
>>3334341
I hope you guys realize that you are arguing over the most subjective form of art: humor

>>3334393
I have seen Mad Men. It's pretty good for the first 3 seasons. I said "most dramas currently on television," not all of them.

>>3334395
Louie transcends humour. But I take your point.

>>3332897
Did you just watch Family Guy or something?

>>3332897
>the kind of guy who thinks The Wire is good TV

You mean anybody with taste? What a lazy troll.

>>3334393
louie only gets dropped into the drama bag by default since it doesn't fit very nicely into the sitcom one.

War and Peace 10/10
Moby Dick 8/10
Divine Comedy 11/10

Lolita 10/10
Confederacy of dunces 3/10
Journey to the end of the night 9/10

>>3332817
You've got horrible taste.