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What does one do after achieving gnosis?

There has to be at least a few of you out there.

>> No.3260279

I usually roll over and go to sleep. Unless the ineffable perfection of reality wants to cuddle or something.

Sometimes smoke a cigarette.

>> No.3260294

>>3260279
Cool. I can't sleep though because I'm legitimately scared of Friday

>> No.3260300

>>3260270
>those gummi newts.

>> No.3260338

Freemasonry of course

>> No.3260343

>>3260294

friday? isn't that when the new mayan calender comes out? man, where does the time go?

>> No.3260362

>>3260343

Into the belly of Ah Pook, of course.

>not sacrificing 10,000 bleeding hearts a day to the dread god Tlazolteotl
>neglecting your final earthly duties
>final days of the ultimate Xihutl >12.19.19.17.18

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3260366

>>3260270
Gnosis is the illusionary carrot one chases. This activity is the result of a lack of ataraxia.

>> No.3260383

>>3260366
then how do you get more ataraxia

>> No.3260392

>>3260383
By practising epoché.

>> No.3260416

>>3260270
>There has to be at least a few of you out there.

On 4chan? Haha... nah.

>> No.3260417

>>3260416
The sun, too, shines into cesspools and is not polluted. - Diogenes

Lelele implying a lotus flower doesn't have its roots in the mud - Siddharta Gautama

>> No.3260449

>>3260270
You're not alone. Your brothers have the dreams too. Visions from Seswatha of the first apocalypse the Inchoroi wrought over the world, visions of the dying Anasurimbor dynasty, visions of the womb-plague that haunted mankind for so long. You know what we seek, in deep Incu-Holoinas, in the dead Cunuroi mansions. We seek the Heron Spear, the return of an Anasurimbor, and the time that dread Mog-Pharau will rise again.

Never stop searching.
Never stop learning.
Never stop fearing.

>> No.3260515

>>3260417
>Diogenes
>anything but an edgy faggot

>> No.3260528

>>3260515
>implying people who are just trying to be "edgy" actually put forth the effort to live an ascetic lifestyle

>> No.3260536

Is gnosis the same thing as liberation/enlightenment?

>> No.3260539

>>3260515
You just went full retard. Diogenes was a fucking bro.

>> No.3260580

>>3260536
I'd say so but it's not ultra-liberating considering that I'm still forced to overthink everything.

But yeah its great

>> No.3260591

>>3260515
>not being sufficiently educated about Ancient Cynicism
>inb4 Diogenes was shit because of what I read on wikipedia

>> No.3260600

>>3260580
What's the good in it if you still stress out and overthink everything?

>> No.3260604

>>3260417
I love the people that think pretty analogies actually say something about reality

>> No.3260614

>>3260604
The Diogenes quote was pretty clearly him saying that you can be in shitty places, around shitty things, and if you're a good person, you won't become shitty yourself.

>> No.3260615

>>3260604
I'll put it simply for you then: A person of quality is able to dwell among those or lesser quality and still have quality. Is this sufficiently about reality for you?

>> No.3260617

>>3260539
>>3260591

I'd love to hear about anything that he did other than produce a couple of lame quips popular among faggots who don't understand Platonism.

>> No.3260624

Picture the sigil burning brightly in your mind's eye. Imagine it then shooting off into the blackness of space. Banish with laughter.

>> No.3260626

>>3260600
Because you know how to manipulate the environment to your advantage. There's not a lot of stress involved because I know how to think around the stress.

>> No.3260637

>>3260617
http://www.mediafire.com/?926ua9fm365du

Start with Classical Cynicism. Or Diogenes the Cynic if you want to learn just about him.

>> No.3260640

>>3260626
>not manipulating yourself to be at ease with any environment

>> No.3260655

>>3260617
His quips to Alexander were pretty poignant and had nothing to do with Platonism.

>Alexander the Great walks up to Diogenes
>Diogenes is chilling
>"Aren't you afraid of me?"
>"Are you good or bad?"
>"Good."
>"Who's afraid of something good?"

Another time, Alexander saw him digging at some bones. When Alexander asked him what he was doing, he said he was trying to find the bones of Alexander's father, but they were indistinguishable from those of a slave.

Alexander finally asked him if he wanted anything, and Diogenes said "Yes. Could you stop blocking my sunlight?"

As Alexander and his friends were leaving, Alexander commented that, were he not Alexander the Great, he would like to be Diogenes.

>> No.3260659

>>3260640
That's what it is basically
But that manipulation still requires you to overthink

>> No.3260671

>>3260659
Elaborate on your gnosis thing please. Concept, tradition, practice etc etc

>> No.3260673

>>3260655
To which Diogenes replied that if he weren't Diogenes he would wish to be Diogenes as well. #amorfati

>> No.3260733

>>3260671
nah dog i had to earn my gnosis you should go read or something

plus my head hurts and its not something i'm able to explain entirely lucidly. too complicated and individualized. but what i can say is that it does help to have a broad, dilettantish knowledge of lots of things like government and history and literature and politics and religion and societal constructs and ocean geography and animal psychology and biology and cosmetology and auto-engineering and other stuff to begin with, so that you have a basis for your gnostic knowledge to pivot from

>> No.3260741

>>3260733
So you just use the term in your own random way instead of standing in a Gnostic tradition?

>> No.3260756

>>3260741
yeah my b
i'm not an actual gnostic

>> No.3260777

>>3260756
So you just mean knowledge? If you mean Gnosis in the mystical religious form than you wouldn't ask what to do once you've achieved it.

>> No.3260814

>>3260777
This, and so on and so forth.
You must be in the land of Light, damn that must be cool. Let friday come as it will, it's just the end of the demiurg, no need to worry, Sophia is gonna get liberated. Let tha Ratsnake eat itself up, while our sparks ignite yo. Shit's cash!

>> No.3260823

>>3260777
i made the thread mostly made to brag
and to show serious concern for the upcoming apocalypse
but also because gnosis, although satisfying, is still not the satisfaction i want. it seems to then follow that the only thing worth living for is death, but this isn't such a big deal to me of course because gnosis

>> No.3260835

dude i love gummy sharks

>> No.3260960

>>3260823
So you use a concept of gnosis that doesn't align with the concept of gnosis others use, you are unwilling to communicate what you mean by it, yet you make a thread about it?

I'll go back to my ataraxia.

>> No.3261254

>>3260366

Wrong, they are the same.

>> No.3261950

The whole thing is ultimately bad because the more you learn the more self-self-absorbed you get.

Eliciting epoché like >>3260392 says works but it only works for a little bit since you can't remain in a state like that forever.

I really don't have any ataraxia aw man

>> No.3261960

>>3261950
Nevermind it's not that bad

>> No.3262901

>>3261950
>>3261960
>the more you learn the more self-self-absorbed you get
Are you so self-absorbed you can't just say "self" once?

>> No.3262934

There's no such thing as absolute enlightenment, only degrees of it.

So you've achieved gnosis eh? You keep going.

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3262973

Hip Gnosis!

>> No.3263018

>>3260270
>What does one do after achieving gnosis?
Move on. There is an old Zen proverb:
Before enlightenment: chop wood and carry water.
After enlightenment: chop wood and carry water.

>>3260338
Wrong. Masons don't get involved with magic in any form, at least not regular ones.
You probably meant the Martinists or one a magical order of some sort, along the lines of the Golden Dawn or A.'.A.'..

>>3262934
This dude has it right.

>> No.3264496

it feels so good oh god

>> No.3264507

it is glorious

>> No.3264549

oh shit

captcha: repented rchxam
captcha before that: atscho satin

>> No.3264572

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
so fucking gooood
wow

>> No.3264858

>>3263018
Ehh, I've heard you find Thelemites and other wise men in the regular lodges if you know where and how to look. I'm not sure there is much division as the masons and masonic apologetic sites would like to imply. But yeah, if you want Masonry+Magick, you're probably better off with the O.T.O. or something similar.

>> No.3265015

>>3260640
how do you do this?

>> No.3265034

I love self-deception. Plenty of laughs for the rest of us.

>> No.3265163

>>3265034
lmao @ irony

stop bumping this thread

>> No.3265254

>>3265163
I will continue to bump it until you explain the joke to me.

Where is the irony?