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>>3165431
Lol, seriously?

>>3165428
OP, They're fundamentally different concepts. Bad Faith is basically what people use to justify believing in things that are not true, from confronting their true selves, from accepting responsibility and freedom.

Authenticity is basically what it sounds like. It's essentially the opposite of bad faith because if you are authentic you are being true, honest, and disillusioned.

>>3165432
>Lol, seriously?
Yes, seriously.

>>3165432
>freedom

why is this so desirable?

i don't see how existential suffering is "freedom".

>>3165434
Who said anything about existential suffering? Do you even into Sartre at all?

Being authentic is coming to terms with your freedom. The whole thing is that people are afraid of freedom because freedom means responsibility for themselves and also for the rest of the world due to their subjectivity. If you want a short and easy to understand introduction to Sartre's Existentialism try reading 'Existentialism is a Humanism'.

If you want some actual theory I'd recommend Being and Nothingness.

>>3165432
yeah, that's what I'm asking, how do existentialists determine what is 'true self'?

>>3165442
Well I was thinking of how a nihilistic person would try to justify nihilism with freedom, when to most nihilism would cause existential issues and nihilism cancels out the values regarding freedom.

>>3165448
with the "freedom" it grants you*

>>3165443
You're looking to rid yourself of bad faith and live more authentically? Like I said, accept responsibility for yourself, embrace your subjectivity and your inability to transcend it, accept responsibility for all men and live by the categorical imperative. You have to realize that 'Existence Precedes Essence' meaning that man starts out in a state of no-thingness but through action becomes what he is.

Honestly, just read the essay.

OP is either an artful troll or an avid reader of Wikipedia. If you want to learn more about Existentialism read it from the horse's mouth.

>>3165454
No, not really, I'm mostly pandering to my idle curiosity. Can you describe the praxis of authenticity, some actual, real life examples of how one can act in a way that existentialist would consider 'authentic'?

Authenticity = You agree with the theorist's argument

Bad Faith = You disagree with the theorist's argument, thus reinforcing the presence of whatever social constructs that he or she is railing against and therefore indirectly proving his or her point.

>>3165469
There is a disturbing tend of chaotic beliefs becoming more popular..

>relativism
>subjectivity
>nihilism
>absurdism

>>3165553

When was it ever different? Not so many nihilistic philosophers around these days. We're all too busy watching Minecraft videos on Youtube.

>>3165553
no there's not. it's not a "trend".

these are just the status quo, and have been for like half a century.

ideology is sorta kinda dead.

but then again, it probably always was.

>>3165465
Pretty sure youre trolling, but I'll bite:

There are no examples. Truth in existentialist terms is = lived truth, and is in every way a subjective category. You can never tell if someone else is living an authentic life or not, you can only know about yourself. What most existentialism is pointing to is this fact, and to the praxis of considering your own lifes ways.

Existentialism is the praxis of making yp your own damn mind. No examples shown.

>>3165428
Jeez, OP. I just completed an exam on Heidegger and Sartre the other day. So glad to be done with it. Come on to /lit/ and have thrown back in my face. Is this a sign?

Bad faith has been explained pretty well already. It's the tendency of people to deny their freedom of choice for fear of the consequences that come with making a choice, it's an act of self-deception.

Authenticity is a little more complicated. All people (Dasein) are at one time or another inauthentic in their way of Being. The inauthentic person engages in everyday discourse without bringing critical faculties to bear. You don't engage with the world around you, you just sort of let it flow over you.

The part that a lot of people forget is that Heidegger says you have to be ever-conscious of your impending death in order to be authentic. But we can't phenomenologically experience death not can we experience it vicariously in any meaningful way, so it's tough. Basically there are two distinct ways of Being-towards-death or thinking about death on a daily basis. The inauthentic, everyday approach is to evade consideration of death entirely. Conversely, an authentic Being-towards-death finds us both accepting death and anticipating it. This does not mean we have to live in constant fear of death, that would be pretty lame and make life suck. According to old Heidegger, death represents our “ownmost” experience. It is the purest act of individuality we can experience. If we comprehend and apply all this bullshit that Heidegger wants, we supposedly achieve a sense of perspective, allowing us to focus on our Being as a whole and recognise the extent of our own possibilities. Achievement Unlocked: 'Authentic Dasein.'

>>3165581
>*nor* can we experience it vicariously