/lit/ - Literature

She was a crazy mathematics major from the Wharton School of Business who could not count to 28 each month without getting into trouble.

"You should pass us by and forgive us our happiness"

>>3133305
This picture makes me feel proud of my country.

>>3133305
I do like the style, particularly the last sentence. That sense of redundancy and starting the sentence with 'because' aptly convey an autistic sense of infantilism. I really want to hate TCIOTDITNT, though.

>>3133317
>I really want to hate TCIOTDITNT, though.
Why? It's a good story and he wrote a believable retard/autist/what ahve you

>>3133316
France?

Yes. Yes, that is too bad.

Is the photographer a pedophile? Is he playing the exhibitionist with his daughter in all these photos of her?

>>3134820
>Is the photographer a pedophile?
He's her father

>>3134831

I know that.

>>3134832
So why are you asking?

>>3134833

Because I'm curious.

"What the fuck? Fuck you, Batman! Get the fuck out of my ass!"

>>3134834
But you already know the answer....

>>3134878

Whether or not he's her father is not the end of the question as to whether or not he's a pedophile.

>>3134884
Do you know how unlikely it is to be an incestuous pedo father with a beautiful daughter? Play the odds, my friend.

>>3134893

The sexual connotation in some of the pictures of her had me guessing. There could be a subconscious impetus.

>>3134893
>Photo of a person getting struck by lightning
>Did they get struck?
>How likely is it that Aomeobe would get struck by lightning? Play the offs, my friend.

>>3134907
someone* odds*

>>3134899
>that moment when you are not reading the subtext, but projecting your own subconscious

>>3134911

>little girl holding a copy of Lolita
>not supposed to arouse even a passing suspicion

You could be right, although prepubescent humans don't attract me sexually

who is the little qtπ?

>>3134911
>implying that either of those claims can be taken seriously/falsified

>>3134878 Sounds like the phrase "rhetorical question" would be lost on you.

>>3134893
More likely than it is to be an incestuous pedo father with a butt-ugly daughter?

Hmm. Interesting picture.

It kind of has a tense dichotomy going there, between innocence/purity and deviance/macabre, ideology versus physicality, etc etc. what have you.

Regardless of the photographer's intent, it's kind of eerie, forbidden, but also oddly expressive.

>>3134893
Do I think it's possible for one man out of the three billion on earth to both be a pedophile and have a beautiful daughter? Yes.

Do I think there are more pedophiles than we are willing to admit, hiding in the woodwork, knowing full well they can't risk being found out? Absolutely.

I wouldn't want to play dice on this one, but I hope for her sake it isn't the case. I haven't seen anything save what's been posted on this board tonight, but hopefully he's just a professional photographer being a professional photographer.

>>3134926
Apparently her name is Mara and she has a bunch of nudes online which makes me super sad.

I just learned all of this in another thread a few hours ago.

>>3134957
>and she has a bunch of nudes online

They are when she was around 3 and are innocent. 2young4me.

Unless you saw something else.

>>3134918
>little girl holding a copy of Lolita
Did you notice the 4 other books in her hand? Is she crazy just because she's holding a copy of American Psycho?

>>3134960
I only saw the links from a reverse image search someone else posted. I'm not going to be looking at nekkid children anytime soon.

>>3134957
They're just topless pics, which is just as fine as if it were a little boy. She's like 4.

>>3134961

Yes, I noticed the other books in her hand. American Psycho is a heavily sexual book as well. I'm just making passing commentary.

>>3134964
I didn't really know the nature of the pictures but the link descriptions look not so 'innocent'

>>3134975
Honeypots.

>>3134982
Did somebody say honey?

>>3134982
>Honeypots
Huh? Please explain your intended meaning.

>>3134989

“But now, for the first time, I see you are a man like me. I thought of your hand-grenades, of your bayonet, of your rifle; now I see your wife and your face and our fellowship. Forgive me, comrade. We always see it too late. Why do they never tell us that you are poor devils like us, that your mothers are just as anxious as ours, and that we have the same fear of death, and the same dying and the same agony--Forgive me, comrade; how could you be my enemy?”
- All Quiet on the Western Front
I think the whole novel could be condensed to that quote.

>>3134918
>>3134961
>>3134967
fwiw the OP pic looks photoshopped as hell

i dont get why salman rushdie always gets wedged in with other "transgressive" lit though. i never even see his name outside /lit/

>"I give you the mausoleum of all hope and desire...I give it to you not that you may remember time, but that you might forget it now and then for a moment and not spend all of your breath trying to conquer it. Because no battle is ever won he said. They are not even fought. The field only reveals to man his own folly and despair, and victory is an illusion of philosophers and fools.”

>>3134967
Interesting, I always thought American Psycho centered around gore and serial-killerness.

Also, how would you say Satanic Verses relates to this general theme? What about the other book, Ik, Jan Cremer? I've never read either of them.

>>3135006

Why does there have to be a general theme? Why can't the selection of books be widely varied in nature? Are you saying it's by chance a novel whose subject matter contains sexual relations with children is among that stack? Are we to infer nothing at all from the photograph? Who is to say your narrative is not as valid as mine?

no fucking judgement

"Books, and cleverness. There are more important things. Friendship and bravery. You're a great wizard, Harry.''

I just don't want to die without a few scars.

“...you know that a good, long session of weeping can often make you feel better, even if your circumstances have not changed one bit.”

I drew the line on pedophilia way back when I was 6. My sister and myself were being molested by my father. She is and was pretty. I threatened to call the police on him for hitting me not fully understanding the sexual nature of his touching.

When I was merely in primary shoocl I often had strong sexual thoughts and imagery running through my mind. Sexuality and innocence are a highly pleasurable concoction. As I turned 18 and became increasingly more sexual with my partner I often played with thoughts of law and restriction. Really thinking I was building an impassable wall between me and sickos like my father. It was a line in the sand but it felt and seemed like a fortress keeping me and victims protected like high castle walls, impenetrable.

Now 30 and lurking on /b/ I was bombarded with sexualized images and gifs of children. Still yet safe behind my castle walls. I often masturbated at least 7 times a week over regular porn. Which was a satisfactory replacement for the lack of female friends I had brought upon myself.

But /b/ rustled my jimmies with it's state of the art advertisement of young girls. Images and the existence of young girls and especially boys don't stir anything in me, normally. But /b/ is a hive mind of the most foulest people on earth with a talented eye for the most desireable of sexualised photos of any porn. By and large safe behind my castle walls I was still shaky from the feeling. I decided it would be safe to try masturbating over one of the images which was of a young teen. It was okay but it felt like my castle walls had gotten shorter by half. I did it about 4 or 5 times and found that the mixture of innocence and sexuality was akin to having a wet lucid dream. However, the path this led down was destructive and dangerous. My conscious is as strong as my curiosity though I was free to choose between the two's use. I knew the pain and suffering of a child after the molestation because I had lived it and still do. I would live a destroyed life if I continued any further away from the safety of my home. What if I molested a girl, the cops found out and I was put in jail? oh, the shame. I dislike the mere thought that I would drip with sleaze from just masturbating over them. What if I was shopping and people could read that I liked little girls? I die a little inside from the shame.

So I got back behind the line and in a few months I felt the security of a castle's walls rise in its stead. I chalked it all up to the fact that I wanted to walk in my father's shoes, live in his skin and increase my understanding of him. But any further continuation of masturbation over images of young girls could not be passed under this banner, or temporary ruling I'd given myself.

Later I thought to myself "When you kill the monster and if you live long enough you become the monster" Perhaps was an addage to reassure myself or an archaic idea that stood in my way in the first place. I couldn't remember how long I'd been thinking it.

So in closing, innocence and sexuality feels like dream. But its pleasure is a one way street that minors are not yet ready to partake in.

So it goes.

>>3135025
There has to be a general theme because you're insinuating the image is pornographic while I'm insinuating it's generally deviant.

I'm not saying that chance found the novel in the place it is at, I'm saying that the subject matter belongs in the stack due to deviance, not pornography, of the nth degree.

I'm not saying we should infer nothing from the photograph, on the contrary I find it very provocative of thought.

I believe one might argue "my narrative" as you call it, is stronger because it takes evidence from the entire photograph. All of the books, to my knowledge, are also considered intellectually taxing. I still can't find much information on Ik Jan Cremer in my language, but I did find this:

http://www.jancremer.com/index.php?subpage=books/&page=book6

It seems to, again, include sex, yes, but seems to be a libertine bildungsroman in general.

There's no reason to get defensive, I was merely asking a question.

>>3135097

I'd say we're making a similar insinuation.

That an element of pedophilia might be part of the provocative nature of the photograph is my entire point. I'm not suggesting the photo is pornographic or aims to be, at least not explicitly/visually

Or it could mean nothing as there are the first 5 books in the series of some books collection.

The candle, by the light of which she had been reading that book filled with anxieties, deceptions, grief and evil, flared up with a brighter light, lit up for her all that had before been dark, crackled, began to flicker, and went out for ever.

goddamit tolstoy you feel-y bastard

>>3135191
http://www.librarything.com/publisherseries/De+Morgen-bibliotheek.+De+verboden+boeken

It's a book collection.... of banned books.

De verboden boeken = the banned books in Dutch.

>I have never been to St. John's Wood. I dare not. I should be afraid of the innumerable night of fir trees, afraid to come upon a blood-red cup and the beating of the wings of the Eagle.

G.K. Chesterton - The Napoleon of Notting Hill

>>3134850
haha I remember that.

"it has always seemed strange to me that the things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,egotism, and self interest are the traits of success. And while men admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second."

>These are my letters to a world that never wrote to me . . .

"Squeeze! Squeeze! Squeeze! all the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed that sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me, and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-labourers' hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules."

>>3134992
succinct

>hemingwayquote
>oscarwidlequote

>>3135192
Man had more feels than John Wayne Gacey