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Authors/books who influenced/taught other authors.
I don't know why, but I think it's neat looking at these sorts of connections.
For example, Nabokov taught Pynchon. Camus references Kafka's The Trial in The Plague

>> No.3058538

Pynchon only ever went to one Nabakov lecture though and said he couldn't understand him

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Harold Bloom taught Naomi Wolf

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>>3058538
Multiple lectures. If Wikipedia is to be believed, Nabokov's wife recalled Pynchon's handwriting. He makes a Lolita reference in the Crying of Lot 49.

>> No.3058558

I never understood that word anyway, Kafkaesque. Is it suppose to be some sort of "woe is me" or something. Or maybe those days when you are a bug and your boss is banging on your bedroom door.

>> No.3058562

>>3058525
>>3058538
Source?

>> No.3058564

>>3058558

The joke in the picture the OP posted is that the character saying it doesn't really understand what it means either

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>> No.3058582

T.S. Eliot was (briefly) tutored, or at least mentored, by Alain Fournier - author of 'Les Grand Meaulnes (his only novel, he was killed in the First World War), the book which John Fowles insists was the chief inspiration behind The Magus.

>> No.3058841

it's kind of interesting to look at the connections between Donald Barthelme and Samuel Beckett; barthelme's fiction is kind of in some ways both a continuation to Beckett's themes and styles, and in other ways a complete departure and rejection. Barthleme also talked a lot about how huge Beckett was as an influence on him, and his novel The Dead Father is more or less all about trying to trudge on in the shadow of one's superior, groundbreaking predecessors-- Barthelme apparently clarified in interviews and such that he kind of saw himself as having that kind of dynamic with Beckett, as he was so influenced by him, but would (in his mind) never ever come even close to matching his body of work

>> No.3058857

>>3058525
Joyce and Beckett obviously

>> No.3058889

Short great books referencing each other

Machiavelli is the start
Thomas Moore references Machiavelli's the Prince in Utopia

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Shakespeare almost plagiarizes Montaigne.
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Filmer/Harrington was part of the Thomas Hobbe's generation

John Locke wrote the 2nd Treatise as a reponse to Robert Filmer

Rousseau responds to John Locke's theory of property in Discourse of Inequalities

Kant responds to Rousseau on the natural state of man

Schopenhauer adds on to Kant's
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Frankenstein echos Paradise Lost and
Goethe's Young Sorrows

>> No.3058912

>>3058889
Also Kant built off ideas from David Hume.

Rousseau inspired Proudhon, who in turn inspired Karl Marx

Karl Marx also read Adam Smith's work

Hannah Arendt wrote her work from the application of Marx's theories.

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Here's where it gets sorta messy:

Nietzsche wrote in response to Schopenhauer, and in agreement with Dostoevsky and Stirner

Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness (which appeared around the time when Nietzsche took off) has been interpreted as anti-Nietzschean

Ayn Rand can be interpreted as Nietzschean like