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Sup /lit/.

I'm taking a course on medieval philosophy and I have no idea what philosopher(s) to work on (we've been asked to pick a subject that interests us and write a paper on it instead of an exam). I know little about medieval philosophers aside from the usual prejudices. I know most of them discussed similar problems (individuation, universals, destiny or free will, divine nature etc.), but I have no idea who's the most important (or rather the most competent in stating his case) and professors tend to focus on each one's contribution (perhaps even exaggerating their importance to the history of philosophy).

I'm mostly interested in metaphysics (individuation, universals, intentionality, even art if there is any connection between metaphysics and art in medieval philosophy), preferably something that I can ponder even in relation to modernity (German Enlightenment for example) and least interested in theology, logic and politics (mostly because I can get better answers from modernity/postmodernity, as far as I can tell).

Any suggestions?

>> No.3044959

>>3044953
Duns scotus, i believe he has some relation with heidegger...

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>>3044959
Hmm... That's an interesting idea. I'll look into it, thanks!

>> No.3044980

>>3044974
apparently augustine of hippo had some influence too

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>>3044980
That's an interesting idea as well. I like the idea of a platonic christianity rather than an aristotelian one, although it's obviously not that simple.

>> No.3045018

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramon_Llull

>> No.3045020

>>3045018

you want metaphysics and art, this is your guy.

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>>3045018
>>3045020
Thanks. Is it strange that this is the first time I've heard of him? It's true however that I haven't read much in the way of secondary literature on the subject.

Also, book suggestions are appreciated as well, I have no idea what medieval writings are considered of philosophical importance and which are mostly theological (the important ones I mean).

>> No.3045079

Boethius wrote his magnum opus while he was on death row. He was a Roman Senator in the 6th century AD. Always thought he was pretty bad ass. He mainly wrote about divine providence and free-will.

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>>3045079
It might be worth looking into, I recall something about him seeing philosophy as the best (or last, I'm not sure) means of saving his soul while on death row. I have to admit that the only thing I know about him is his logical square (or whatever it's called). While divine providence and free-will aren't my favorite subjects, I think I should pay more attention to how they are discussed rather than what is being discussed. So thanks, I'll look into it.

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Just gonna bump this again before going off to bed. Thanks again guys.

>> No.3045561

descartes is hugely overrated. do leibniz's indiscernible principle

>> No.3045565

>>3045561
Did you even read his post? Do you even know anything about when medieval is? Do you even know when Descartes and Leibniz were around?

Shit son, you messed up pretty bad.

>> No.3045577

>>3045565
>implying Descartes was a medieval philosopher
>implying Descartes didn't die after Leibniz was born
Shit son, you messed up bretty bad

>> No.3045581

If you're interested in metaphysics and Germans, definitely check out Meister Eckhart and the Rhineland mystics. This is medieval philosophy in Christian Europe we're talking about, right?

>> No.3045584

>>3045565
meh. it's all medieval to me. i don't care.

>> No.3045590

>>3045584
the don't make suggestions if you don't know what you're talking about.

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>>3045584
>i d-don't care

>> No.3045615

>>3044953
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_Philosophy_(Copleston)

>> No.3046360

kids nowadays

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>>3045581
Thanks. I'm more interested with things that tie the Middle Ages to modernity rather than German Enlightenment specifically, that was just an example.

Also, I meant medieval European philosophy, but Arabian and Hebrew philosophers that influenced the Latin world are part of the course as well.

>> No.3046699

>>3046667

Consider checking out the Andalusian thinker Ibn Rushd (Averroes.) Through the influence he had on thinkers like Aquinas, Siger of Brabant, and Boetius of Dacia he's one of the thinkers largely responsible for giving Western European thought the Aristotelian/Peripatetic character which arguably helped lay the philosophical groundwork for the Renaissance and later intellectual developments.

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>>3046699
Thanks. I know that Avicenna and Averroes had greatly influenced the Latin world, but I know little about them otherwise (I even tend to confuse them and simply reading Wikipedia articles on them probably wouldn't help much in the matter).

Maybe I should have been more direct in the first post. One of the main points of the course is that medieval thought isn't as isolated from early modernity (or modernity in general) as certain prejudices state and that there is plenty of important philosophical work to be found in the Middle Ages even though many believe this work to consist only of commentaries on Ancient philosophy.
By this I mean that while I know Averroes was highly influential in the history of Western philosophy, I'd rather search for works that bridge the gap between late medieval thought and modernity or works that are still influential today even if indirectly (like Duns Scotus' univocity for Deleuze and Heidegger). Maybe this last sentence wasn't the best way to put it, as someone might suggest Thomas Aquinas simply because of neotomism (of which I've only heard rather bad things), but I don't know how else to explain it.

On the other hand, I know nothing about Averroes' ideas or influence on contemporary/modern philosophers (if there is any) so...

tl;dr philosophical value > historical value

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There are a lot of philosophy threads on /lit/ right now, I'll give this one another bump in case anyone has more suggestions or wishes to discuss medieval philosophy.

I think I'll go with Duns Scotus for now, but I've still got some time to decide.