/lit/ - Literature

Jesus Christ
Emma Goldman
Ursula K. Le Guin
Zhuangzi
Albert Camus
Diogenes of Synope
Petr Kropotkin
Errico Malatesta
China Miéville
Jim Morrison (he wrote poetry; he counts)

>Mark Twain
>George R. R. Martin (haters gonna hate)
>Sartre
>Alexandre Dumas
>Stephen King (haters gonna keep hating)
>The Buddha
>Zizek
>Chomsky
>Dawkins
>Darwin

>>3035640

>2012 CE
>belleving in unicornes
lol your are so stupid and murderous

Haruki Murakami
John Steinbeck
T.S Eliot
Michel Foucault
Walter Benjamin
Kimberlé Crenshaw
Jim Munroe
Roland Barthes
Truman Capote
DFW

>>3035652
I don't believe in unicorns. Where'd you get that?

Fyoder Dostoevsky
Friedrich Nietzsche
Kurt Vonnegut
Bawa Muhaiyaddeen
Henry David Thoreau
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Albert Camus
Jesus Christ
Voltaire
Gautama Buddha

>>3035644
You're "nerd-smart." The kind of B-/C+ average type of human being who does read, but who really doesn't get much out of it. As such, you turn to entertainment and popular philosophy. Even your deeper literary tastes (Dumas and Twain) are picaresque and adventuresome because you rely on plot to keep you entertained. However, I feel like I would be correct in guessing that you read great quantities of books, making me feel that you would still be fairly clever but not really "smart" in any substantial way. You're probably really good with trivia but not so good with analysis.

Nabokov
Heidegger
Nietzsche
Dostoevsky
Berkeley
Cassirer
Cioran
Stirner
Kant
Kierkegaard

>>3035673
You are sad. You like sad books because you are capable of relating. You also have an appreciation for beautiful writing. I like your taste, anon.

>Christopher Hitchens
>Cory Doctorow
>George R. R. Martin
>Ray Bradbury
>Carl Sagan
>J.K. Rowling
>Isaac Asimov
>Neil DeGrasse Tyson
>Neil Gaiman
>Nick Sagan

>>3035696
>>>/reddit/

>>3035673
>Foucault
>admire

>>3035679
You are more a voyeur of philosophy than a student. You window shop from vastly different ends of the spectrum without firmly defining yourself. You probably have a significant separation between your life as a reader and the rest of your life. It doesn't permeate you.

>>3035691
You read to overcome some sort of intellectual inferiority complex. You read pretty much nothing with any heart to it and instead focus on great technical writers and accomplished philosophers. You want to learn to be able to be an asshole, most likely.

>>3035696
You don't take this thread very seriously or otherwise you are a person who no one else can take very seriously.

Hannah Arendt
GK Chesterton
Guy Davenport
Friedrich Nietzsche
Theodore Sturgeon
JRR Tolkien
John Dolan
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Wendell Berry
Wallace Stevens

Zizek
Dawkins
Dostoevsky
Thomas Bernhard
Salinger
Eliezer Yudkowsky
Beckett
Pessoa
Kafka
Neil Gaiman

>>3035711
You think you're something special but you ain't never fuc't a lady.

>>3035724
hahahaha

>>3035723
You admire Zizek and Dawkins both. Which doesn't really make sense at all. This tells me you aren't really deep into either of them but that you probably just like their youtube videos.

As for the rest of the list, you're into popular shit and you read something by Beckett that wasn't Waiting for Godot and feel special about it. While a lot of reading is penis stroking to you, you still are able to let out that you like Gaiman and Salinger, so good on you. You might actually be the kind of person on /lit/ who bothers to sit down and read books instead of wikipedia articles despite your affection for Youtube videos.

>>3035702
>read various philosophies
>voyeur of philosophy
>not a level-headed person who is not unlike an atheist who reads various religious texts to have a wide understanding of religion

Nietzsche
Muhammad (Not a Muslim)
Mussolini
Schopenhauer
Dante
Pound
Kafka
Dickens
Descartes
Melville
Hemingway

Wittgenstein
Hermann Hesse
Ernest Hemingway
Vladimir Nabokov
Nikolai Gogol
James Joyce
Fernando Pessoa
J.R.R. Tolkien
Mikhail Bulgakov
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

>>3035730
I've read most Dawkins books and three Zizek, are you really going to flame me? Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

Nabokov
Spinoza
Pynchon
DFW
Woolf
Conrad
Borges
Faulkner
Kafka
Carver

Honestly, I think I already know what you're going to say, and I think you might be right...

>>3035723
Eliezer Yudkowsky wrote that fucking Harry Potter thing about science

lol

>>3035735
you're a pretty cool guy

>>3035737
pretty much

>>3035707
What do you consider reading something "with heart"? Are you claiming one cannot read the above works with heart?

>>3035733

>>3035679 here. I'm flattered.

>>3035735
from the first four, a young man who prefers to be alone because he finds most people too boring to bother with, but judging by the later authors you still see some good in people

>Hume
>Camus
>Kafka
>Steinbeck
>Orwell
>Dickens
>Diogenes

And that's about it.

Virginia Woolf
Georges Perec
James Joyce
Jorge Luis Borges
Vladimir Nabokov
Franz Kafka
Sam Beckett
Rabelais
W.G. Sebald
Roberto Bolaño

I hate DFW.

>>3035736
>bernhard
>dostoevsky
>dawkins
Here's my guess: You're really fucking angry with the way things are (especially human nature) and often despair over, like, life and shit? But all of this is never without a bleak sense of humour.

Gunter Grass
Cynthia Ozick
KC Green
The girl writer on Gawker
Tina Fey
Johnny Ryan
@kanyewest
Ken Jennings
Armond White
The person who does Jean Teasdale

>>3035742
A younger man who struggles to live in the world and yet yearns to be a part of it.

>>3035747
you are Slavoj Zizek

>>3035687

Thomas Ligotti
Jorge Luis Borges
Cormac McCarthy
H.P. Lovecraft
Emil Cioran
Bruno Schulz
José Emilio Pacheco
J.G. Ballard
Gene Wolfe
Edgar A. Poe

>>3035745
Right on.

>>3035730
You're not too far from the mark either, although I think Dawkins does a lot better at writing than public speaking.

>>3035759
>Lovecraft
>Poe
u spooky

Stirner
Evola
Jünger

>>3035764
lazy

>>3035764
you listen to neofolk.

>>3035759
>Thomas Ligotti
>Emil Cioran

huge depressing faggot that loves authority

Frederick Seidel
Emily Dickinson
Jack Gilbert
Robert Frost
John Foy (Obscure poet)
Dostoevsky
Nabokov
Bolano
Chekov
Wittgenstein
J.L Austen
Kant
Aristotle
Sarte (non-marxist work)
Marx
Sigmund Freud

>>3035770
don't forget spooky

>>3035768

>>3035771


John J. Foy was an American track and field athlete who competed in the 1904 Summer Olympics.

In 1904 he did not finish in marathon competition.

>>3035771
>posts more than 10
>posturing faggot

>>3035761

Poe I like because of his approach to writing short stories, which I find more engaging and interesting than the usual "let's make it like a mini-novel or play-in-one-act" type of affair. Lovecraft because of his ideas that everything we regard as human is meaningless to the cosmos. So, yeah, not so much because of the spooky factor.

>>3035773
You feel power, you feel a sacrifice.

Frederich Nietzsche
Jean Baudrillard
Thomas Pynchon
Antonin Artaud
Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Alfred Jarry
Samuel Beckett
Jorge Luis Borges
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

After having responded to almost every single list in this thread, I figure I'll give my own:

DFW
Kafka
Zizek
Thomas Pynchon
William Styron
W.E.B. Du Bois
Dostoevsky
Goethe
James Joyce
Shakespeare
Vonnegut
Marx

>>3035779
>Lovecraft because of his ideas that everything we regard as human is meaningless to the cosmos

so edgy

sorry bub, but the "cosmos" (who the fuck calls the universe "cosmos") isn't capable of regarding something, it isn't even a being

we god now

>>3035784
you love the fact that nothing is certain and that the beliefs of the past should be looked at critically and/or rejected

>>3035785

>DFW

idiot

>W.E.B. Dubois

Into tumblr social justice. Just put him on to list a black person, but should have put on Ralph Ellison.

>Shakespeare

Has probably never even read Shakespeare.

>Marx

lol

>>3035785
You're young, motivated and trying to get the classics out of the way.

Georges Bataille
Nietzsche
The Marquis De Sade

>>3035797
you'd get your ass kicked by >>3035764

>>3035797

>has read de Sade
>has never fucked anyone

Chomsky
Zizek
Bakunin
Marx
Adorno
Connolly
Joyce
Beckett
Kafka
PKD

>>3035801

I'm not that guy, but everyone you read has probably read de Sade. He's a great writer.

guenon
evola
seyyid hossein nasr
junger
nietzsche
heidegger
plato
plotinus
marcus aurelius
ibn arabi

Spider-Man
Mr. Miracle
Jean Grey
Magik
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Oracle
Invisible Kid
Kitty Pryde
Kilowog

>>3035807
You mean Kitty Pryde the musician, right?
Also, what kind of admiration list of comic book characters doesn't include Barry Allen?

>>3035640 here.
Anyone willing to give me thoughts that isn't going to babble about unicorns or some shit?

Neil Gaiman
Terry Pratchett
Douglas Adams
Christopher Hitchens
Heraclitus
Laurence Yep
Matsuo Basho
Yosa Buson
Kobayashi Issa
Richard Feynman

>>3035812

>you should get a life instead of F5'ing this post for over an hour

>>3035817
Replace Christopher Hitchens with Ryokan

in no particular order -

plotinus
schopenhauer
spinoza
buddha
marcus aurelius
gurdjieff
wittgenstein
emerson
rajneesh
thoreau

Camus
Gogol
Huxley
Shulgin
Marcus Aurelius
Sartre
Dostoyevsky
Diogenes
Nietzsche
Bryant

>>3035820
oh and add plato to that, too.

>>3035817

Probably high school age or thereabouts, redditer, possibly a weeaboo.

>>3035818
I didn't. I came back over an hour later.

>>3035691
You have difficulty finding meaning in life, or most likely don't look for it, and you rely on strict views on epistemology to compensate for it. You also try to compensate for the dissatisfaction you feel in life with psuedo-rational theology, and you would like to believe that there is a loving god because there is no other source of love in your life.

>>3035812
All I can say is fuck yeah Diogense!
I should start pissing on people I don't like.

>>3035826
>implying there isn't a loving god

wanna fight about it?

>>3035804

An unusually perspicacious person with mystical inclinations. Probably feels out of place in the modern word.

>>3035834
Do you want to give your position first? Go ahead.

Ernest Hemingway
Kurt Vonnegut
William Faulkner
Cormac McCarthy
Arthur Rimbaud
Hunter S Thompson
Friedrich Nietzsche
Jean-Paul Sartre
Dostoevsky
Philip K Dick

>>3035824
20, i hate reddit, i barely have time to watch anime or listen to j-music. Try more

1.Descartes
2.Spinoza
3.Hume
4.Kant
5.Frege
6.Russell
7.Godel
8.Arthur Miller
9.Quine
10.Kripke

>>3035858
>Vonnegut
I just started with his stuff. Halfway through The Cat's Cradle and I'm really lovin it.
What other books can /lit/ recommend me?

Laozi
Jesus Christ
Immanuel Kant
Jack London
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Albert Camus
Leibniz
Aristotle
Aquinas
Kafka

I only saw the
>/or writers
part at the very end, so i switched a few..

>>3035821
I'm guessing you don't want to do much with your life.

nietzsche
lenin
mussolini
evola
gogol
chekhov
henry miller
celine
mishima
orwell

Evelyn Waugh
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Edith Wharton
Henry James
Ernest Hemingway
Jesus Christ
Thomas More
Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

Not quite ten but I haven't read very many books and I'm not really sure of any other philosophers to include on there. Even the inclusion of Proudhon and More is kind of a stretch as I am only somewhat familiar with their philosophies, I haven't actually read their writings.

Kierkegaard
Victor Klemperer
Kafka
Bataille
Harlan Ellison
Alix Olson
Cicero
Martin Luther
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Jesus Christ, the perfect gentleman

I don't even know that many.

>>3036006
>philosophers and/or writers
>and/or writers
come on, now. surely you've read more than 9 authors.

socrates
tolstoy
kropotkin
hobsbawm
gustav landauer
friedrich engels
ernest mandel
khaim zhitlovsky
lev shestov
moses hess

>>3035992
>nietzsche
>lenin
>mussolini

Nice combination...

>>3036001
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Sodomists

>>3035640

Have you listened to the American Prayer album of Jim Morrison's poetry?

>>3036022
not him but why not?
the fascists are a party of the new type as proscribed by v.i.lenin. in the same vein as you hear modern day rightwing conspiracy theorists rant about university marxist hegemony, ISAs and ideologemes.
breivik, actually, can be termed a gramscian.

Donald Davidson
Hilary Putnam
WVO Quine
Rudolf Carnap
David Hume
JP Sartre
Late Ludwig Wittgenstein
CL Stevenson
Bishop Berkeley
Nagarjuna

also, lol'd at the numerous bataille wankers; i guess being neet is part of your perpetual sacral potlach

philosophers:
hume
russell
schopenhauer
quine
austin
ayer


writers:
camus
goethe
thomas mann
sartre

>>3036022
hurr
they have more in common than you think.
lenin and mussolini probably hung out at the same bar in 1916/17 in switzerland (cafe voltaire)
one of mussolinis first nicknames was mussolenin. he wrote for a marxist newspaper.

also not agreeing with somebody or finding some of his character traits repulsive doesnt stop me from being interested in his oeuvre

it's a sign of a narrow mind if you limit everything to 100% agreement

>>3036029

>>3036032
here,
pretty sure youre a bro and a great thinker

>>3036030
but I just came back from a party where someone flashed their vag in the style of Baubo

>>3036025
Mormons aren't even Christians tho

>>3036035
you never read either?

>>3035953
You are insufferably boring

>>3036037
This statement is borne entirely of ignorance.

>>3036040
cool conversation opener bro

Ernest Hemingway
Jack Kerouac
John Steinbeck
Raymond Carver
Henry David Thoreau
George Orwell
Allen Ginsberg
William S. Burroughs
Hunter S. Thomspon
Terrence McKenna

yes.

Kant, Kierkegaard, Descartes, Camus, St. Augustine, both Shelleys, Dostoyevsky, Bierce, Capote, Ann Coulter.

>>3036036
Thanks, I forgot about Austin myself, good choice. You are a gentleman and scholar.

>>3036046
unremarkable hipster. probably listens to audiobooks because he gets tired of reading.

>>3035995
you can't read

>>3036051
Republican, likely Tea Party

Philosophers:
Aristotle
Marcus Tulius Cicero
Abu-l-Walid Ibn Rusd
Immanuel Kant
David Hume
Karl Marx
Wittgenstein
Herbert Marcuse
Anna Arendt
Peter Sloterdjik

Writters:
Ovidius
Lucian of Samos
Bocaccio
Dante Aligheri
Bernat Metge
Rabelais
Cervantes
Voltaire
Edgar Allan Poe
Philip K. Dick

>>3036070

>anna arendt
>anna

>sloterdijk

seriously?

>>3036070
You are a terrible person and the world would be better without you.

>>3036074
Hanna Arendt*

>>3036076
I usually clean my rear after doing excretions with the works of Ayn Rand.
Is an invigorating sensation.

Aristotle

Arkady and Boris Strugatsky

J.R.R. Tolkien

E.A. Poe

H.P. Lovecraft

Ursula K. Le Guin

Philip K. Dick

Stanisław Lem

Henry George

Murray Rothbard

Witold Gombrowicz

that's 14 people right there plus bunch of polish writers that nobody in here will know anything about. I guess it's enough for somebody to make a psychological profile of me.

>>3036092
>that's 14 people right there

Shit, I forgot about

Kant

Schopenhauer

>>3036051
>Ann Coulter
8/10 lol'd pretty hard

>>3036092
autistic

>>3036108
Of all the words you could use to describe him you've chosen to use a buzzword.

>>>/b/

>>3036119
The fact that the word is overused does not mean there aren't autistic people in the world who greatly need the diagnosis so they can seek help. Stop being ableist and considering your own dislike of a word over helping people with serious developmental disorders. You sicken me.

>>3036119
>>3036108
So this is a poor veiled /b/ raid thread then?

>>3036129
>The fact that the word is overused does not mean there aren't autistic people in the world who greatly need the diagnosis so they can seek help

I don't see how this has anything to do with the topic. Are you autistic yourself?

>>3036045
no, i'm not here to get lectured (or to lecture you) about the latest social mores but am trying to figure if you really have some interest in lenin's tactics which *might* have influenced wrangel and moussolini and demonstrably *have* had influenced the Kuomintang.
there is also a book (amusing enough to be banned during the soviet era) about his time in switzerland.
he was talking with a swiss families about the drawbacks of their school system and had his bike stolen, once. the single most bohemian thing he did was dating his buddy inessa armand. his legal wife was not around and this also seems to have been mostly platonic anyways.
she'd later write him to cut the terror.

dk about moussilini's time but even if they'd met a short parley would have not been the source of vladimir's (supposed) influence over benito.
In russian socialist thought, because of fierce oppression probably, there's been this nigh-religiously sectarian strain Lenin first went around quoting from Plekhanov and later developed into his cadre party concept. now if you'd replace the marxist concept of enlightenment, or of the propagation of a class consciousness to the disenfranchised illiterate classes, with your reactionary ideology du jour you will get moussolini's totalitarianism.
if you are interested in lenin's political strategy i'll look up the passages for you. reading benito is a waste of time. in his writings he was a pretentious and arrogant twit.

stop skipping so many entries ITT.

bunch of faggots ITT are left out without no psychoanalysis

>philosophers
Parmenides
Gorgias
Plato
Feuerbach
Kierkegaard
Leopardi
Freud
Jung
Lacan

>writers
Plato
Dostoevskij
Leopardi
Joyce
Turgenev
Bulgakov
Proust
Kafka

>inb4 not 10 and 10

>>3036148
>Fredu
>Jung
Schizophrenia!!!

>>3036092
>Arkady and Boris Strugatsky
>Witold Gombrowicz
>Stanisław Lem
difficult because THEIR fans tend to consider them:
>J.R.R. Tolkien
>H.P. Lovecraft
>Murray Rothbard
to be naive and irrelevant bydlo. My best guess: the child to a liberal eastern european middle class couple who took part in the 1980s protest movement; both being slightly anglophile. one of them, at least, studied STEM.

T.S. Eliot
Hemingway
Kerouac
Steinbeck
Ginsberg
Orwell
Bukowski
DFW
Salinger
Joyce

William Golding
Joseph Conrad
Machiavelli
Homer
Pynchon
Anthony Burgess
Jeff Mangum
Megaman
Shigeru Miyamoto
Phillip K Dick

> someone flashed their vag in the style of Baubo

>>3036159
>difficult because THEIR fans tend to consider them to be naive and irrelevant bydlo
Intresting, I am yet to encounter a Lem, Rothbard or Gombrowicz fan that considers his/her object of liking "naive" or "irrelevant", as well as "bydlo".
>the child to a liberal eastern european middle class couple who took part in the 1980s protest movement; both being slightly anglophile. one of them, at least, studied STEM.
You mean "at least one of them", but no, you're actually wrong. My parents did not take part in any protests and both of them were at that time workers. And the fact that I'm eastern european was pretty obvious from the start, there aren't many well-known writers from Poland.

>>3036044
wait, the top one or the bottom? I KNOW Mormons are real Christians, you can't judge the whole by its crazier parts etc, and fully recant such divisive statements. For the other, I used to live in a place that could be considered a spiritual center of the community, that held very weak versions of potlach on occasion, but I spurned their gods and profaned their idols and fell into the depths of NIGHT

>>3036178
thankfully she was not an old maid or otherwise Greek-comical

>>3036166
Are you a poet?

lots of beats in here it seems

Joshua haNozri Christ
Edward Louis Bernays
Jean de La Bruyère
Ben Sira
Dale Carnegie
and Immanuel Kant to consult over difficult issues.

>>3036140
>dk about moussilini's time but even if they'd met a short parley would have not been the source of vladimir's (supposed) influence over benito.

You've never read any Mussolini's works, have you? He was a strict socialist just like his father at first.

>now if you'd replace the marxist concept of enlightenment, or of the propagation of a class consciousness to the disenfranchised illiterate classes, with your reactionary ideology du jour you will get moussolini's totalitarianism.

>reactionary ideology du jour
Confrimed for having no fucking idea about fascism. Fascism was a quasi-extension of marxist ideas just like red anarchism was. Mussolini wanted to unite all classes for the good of a nation. He considered free market to be an antic that served it's role in the history and supported wide welfare programs for poor people. Lastly, he thought that unions will eventually evolve in corporations and that is why they needed to be strictly watched by the government. Also the idea of vanguard party with excessive cultural support that was supposed to start a revolution from above came from Gramsci.

tl;dr, you're fucking retarded and shouldn't be able to take part in this discussion any longer you arrogant twit.

>>3036195
>known
nope, known they are.
I read the Gombrowicz lectures on philosophy and watched Ferdydurke (which did seem like a clusterfuck to me)
>I am yet to encounter a Lem, Rothbard or Gombrowicz fan that considers his/her object of liking "naive" or "irrelevant", as well as "bydlo".
nope: first three vs latter three
i'm say I am yet to meet StrugaBro fanboy who'd hold the manichean world of Tolkien and that Eldrich Horror dude in esteem; might have been too harsh on Murray. It s just my impression he's writing stuff for the anarcho-teen market.
>eastern european
how eastern european?

John Campbell (as in webcomic, his are all about the words)
Lewis Carroll
Charles Dickens
Robert Jordon
David Foster Wallace
Neil Gaiman
Patrick Rothfuss
Mark Twain
Poe

>>3036229
Oops. Missed one. Also fond of Chuck Klosterman

Goethe
Homer
Alexnder Solzhenitsyn
Herman Hesse
George Orwell
Franz Kafka
Chuck Palahniuk
Fyodor Dostoevsky
Philip K. Dick
David Gemmel

Diogenes of Sinope
Bertrand Russel
Jesus Christ (Seems to be more popular than I thought it would be when I pressed reply)
Jean Jacques-Rousseau
And Socrates if he was actually a different person than Plato.


My idea of what constitutes philosophy limits my list.

Spinoza
Hume
Socrates
Nietszche
Shakespeare
Goethe
Epicurus
Diogenes
Buddha (or whatever the fuck his real name is)
Foucault

>>3036224
> I am yet to meet StrugaBro fanboy who'd hold the manichean world of Tolkien and that Eldrich Horror dude in esteem
You just did, although not in person. You seem to believe that it is impossible for someone to appreciate different forms of literature because they could potentially represent two different stances on literature's role in our culture, and that makes me think you're pretty narrow-minded.
> It s just my impression he's writing stuff for the anarcho-teen market.
Yes, it's mainly your impression. His views are very consistent and hard to swallow for somebody who got used to currently dominating political ideologies.
>how eastern european?
I'm from Poland.

>>3036239
>And Socrates if he was actually a different person than Plato.
that may be, but you've never read any of his work.

>>3036235
fuck Chuck Klosterman. Seriously.

Hesse
Tolstoy
Dostoevsky
Heinrich Bōll
Foucault
Plato
Heraclitus
Bukowski
Vonnegut
Orwell

>>3036250

And I don't think you can read at all.

>Respecting The Republic. Fascist pls go.

>>3036251
I think he has a genuinely respectable grasp of the human language and ability to make it dance a little. He presents his ideas well and entertainingly. Though admittedly all of the ideas themselves fade long after the words he used to describe them. Why fuck him?

>>3036242
>Foucault
>Nitzsche
Edgy teenager looking for his perfect ideology that would make him fit in the phylosophical threads on /lit/.

>>3036259

Have you read any of their works?

>>3036264

Pls.

Pls guy.

Guy.

Guy who keeps asking everyone if they've read 'their works.'

Go.

Guy. Guy. Pls go.

>>3036268

I think I'll stay.

>>3036257
His condescending tone. The way he just shits over the opposing view while not refuting any of the opposing arguments. His shitty taste in music and his 'i love sports but soccer is for losers' thing. The catchy titles he gives his books and me falling for it.

>>3036270

Pls greece.

Pls. Pay your debts.

>>3036272
Klosterman is good with words and uses that ability to say things that don't mean anything but are still nonfiction. His pieces are purely opinion and I don't think they are really presented as anything else.

>>3036242
Foucault? How can ANYONE admire Foucault? I mean jesus fucking christ his ideas were already refuted by many different structuralists and no sane person which is aware that his postmodernist bullshit has no axiomatic fundaments like most of the western marxist ideologies will even discuss his (or Habermas') views seriously.

>>3036220
>You've never read any Mussolini's works, have you? He was a strict socialist just like his father at first.
>strict socialist
in what way strict? he's using sorel and nietzsche vocab or goes on about psychology; both being no-go areas for people like Bebel or Kautsky or Lenin, for any of the self-proclaimed Marxists
which I would understand as
>strict
or, as they used to say,
>scientific
socialists.
Now Benito is alluding to heretic writers and nationalist sentiments. You can call him a socialist but by no ways a strict one; not more strict than any of the nazis or any of the people Marx was debating in the Deutsch-Französische Jahrbücher.
>Fascism was a quasi-extension of marxist ideas just like red anarchism
I don't think you know what you're talking about. Explain yourself; afaik there are no real definitions of fascism aside from an article ghost-written by some professional hegelian philosopher.
Leninism is pretty clear-cut; drawing on Plekhanov VIL defines his new Sect-Type-Party in "what is to be done"; drawing on Engels he defines his transitory state in "the State and Revolution" and he's quoting Charlie all the time.
We can, thus, say there are those 4-5 tome of purr Leninism footing explitly on Marx, Engels and Plekhanov to debate the Liberals, Narodiks, Christian Socialist, Mensheviks etc pp also using the vocab of lebon, of sorel, of the futurist movement.
Nothing of that is known from Benito. He was a pretty decent politician, essayist and pamphleer but he wasn't a philosopher.
You cannot say what contributed to Moussolinism because it doesn't exist;
Nor have I ever heard about a "red" anarchism outside of fancy Laibach songs.

>>3036382
cont'd
>Mussolini wanted to unite all classes for the good of a nation. He considered free market to be an antic that served it's role in the history and supported wide welfare programs for poor people. Lastly, he thought that unions will eventually evolve in corporations and that is why they needed to be strictly watched by the government.
which even if it was true (have you made up self-contradictory drivel on spot?) would make him your average rightwing nationalist. where the 'marxism' part?
>Also the idea of vanguard party
>vanguard party
that's from the manifesto.greatly expanded on by lenin, yes.
>with excessive cultural support
>excessive cultural support that was supposed to start a revolution from above
andthat's right out of your arse
>came from Gramsci.
who wrote when?
>tl;dr, you're fucking retarded and shouldn't be able to take part in this discussion any longer you arrogant twit.
don't be such a cuntrag. i'm trying to help you with, perhaps, a rough sketch of the writers which you claimed you adore and you're doing your best to prove me how you are an angry and lonely immature bloke not worth my time. if continue to cuss for my attention you will be ignored.

>>3036243
>you're pretty narrow-minded.
yes.
but not schizophrenic.

- Ralph Ellison
- Joyce
- Fanon
- James Kelman
- Robert Garioch
- Chekov
- Kafka
- Solzhenitsyn
- Hemmingway
- Alan Moore

>>3035644
You are the type of person who works in a call centre and has read a couple of 'classics' at school/when recommended but ultimately only reads as a pose to impress girls. Witness the oh-so-edgy easter philosophy and Satre --- all bases covered when hitting on english lit uni girls, right? I don't respect you based on that list.

>>3035673
not bad.

>>3035679
not bad.

>>3035691
I suspect you read to impress.

>>3035696
you are 17.

>>3035711
loser.

>>3035723
not bad.

>>3035734
bad. you are the fat cunt who sits in english lit tutorials and keep cutting in over the tutor. fuck you.

>>3035735
Nice.

>>3035744
You probably read most of this on a lit course, but still, not bad.

>>3035747
no.

>>3035759
You are an insecure goth.

>>3035771
horrible namedropper, you want to sound smart but understand a lot less than you're willing to admit

>>3035784
ok.

>>3035785
ok.

>>3035802
ok.

>>3035804
wants to sound clever, yawn.

>>3036398
How does this make me schizophrenic? Explain.

>>3036242
just fucking LOL. seriously LOL.

sage goes in every field

Thomas Mann
Bertolt Brecht
John Donne
Emily Brontë
Oscar Wilde
William Gibson
Niccolo Machiavelli
Sei Shounagon
Leo Tolstoy
Robert Browning

>>3036435
L O L

what the fuck is with this board today

>>3036427
well if you admire authors that differ so wildly in, as you put, in their stances on literature's role in our culture, then you are very broad-minded, or, multiminded. or schizophrenic! anyway, jak odkryłaś/odkryłeś rothbarda? to me he seems VERY american. fora?

>>3036437
same-faggotry on all-time high

Joyce
Barth
Aurelius
Twain
Gogol
DFW
Ovid
Beckett
DH Lawrence
Dickens

>Mark Twain
>Neil Gaiman
>Diogenes the Cynic
>JRR Tolkien
>Jorge Luis Borges
>Terry Pratchett
>Kurt Vonnegut
>Ernest Hemingway
>T.S Eliot
>Stephan Crane

Aquinas
Aristotle
Zhuangzhi
Lewis Caroll
Kierkegaard
Wittgenstein
Nicholson Baker
Albert Camus
Gk Chesterton
Ok Bouwsma

>marcus aurelius
>seneca
>epictetus
>antisthenes
>diogenes
>st. augustine
>hjalmar söderberg
>fjodor dostoyevskij
>thomas aquinas
>f a hayek

fuck h8

>>3036444
i cant believe it

its as bad as /mu/ where everyone either listens to the same music they've shared amongst themselves or listens to what they think is very obscure outsider music.

this is the world we live in.

the fact that ON AN ANONYMOUS BOARD people are still worried about keeping up appearances is the single most depressing thing about the internet.

Kurt Vonnegut
Toni Morrison
William Shakespeare
Oscar Wilde
Alan Moore
Christopher Moore
Joe R. Lansdale
Arthur Conan Doyle
Ernest Hemingway
Mikhail Bulgakov

harrumph!

Thomas Pynchon
Herman Melville
Ernest Hemingway
Robert Musil
Joseph Roth
John Locke
Thomas Hobbes
Eric Hobspawm
A.J.P Taylor
Winston Churchill

>>3035967
The essentials are really Cats Cradle, Slaughterhouse 5, Sirens Of Titan, and Breakfast Of Champions. Save Breakfast Of Champions until after you've read at least 2 or 3 works of his. BoC is really a Love it Or Hate it book, and I personally think it's amazing. SH5 was where he gets most of his fame from and why he's known by many people. Sirens Of Titan is the one book where goes full sci-fi. Other than that, his style is the same yet the theme changes in every book. Pick ones that sound good or interesting to you. Many people have favorite obscure Vonnegut novels that they really love. Just read at least Cats Cradle and Slaughterhouse 5 then branch out. None of his books are terrible, even though they all aren't amazing too.

>>3036470

None of this stuff is obscure or outsider, jesus.

Fyodor Dostoevesky
George Orwell
Robert Louis Stevenson
George R. R. Martin
Jack Vance
Joe Abercrombie
Daniel Defoe
David Mitchell
Herman Hesse
Tupac Amaru Shakur

Bring it on you patrician fucks.

>>3035632

Buddha
Aldous Huxley
Timothy Leary
Dogen
Bodhidharma
Terence McKenna
Lao Tzu
Plato
Jack Kerouac
William Burroughs

>>3036552
>Timothy Leary
my nigga.

J-J. Rousseau
B. Spinoza
Xenophon
Herodotus
Thucydides
L. Tolstoy
M. Bloch
H. Kissinger
A. Curtis
C. Bukowski

Diogenes
Camus
Nietzsche
George Bataille
Stirner
Aristotle
Descartes
Buddha
Sartre
De Sade

>>3035797
>>3036611
Holy shit we should fuck.

IN NO SPECIFIC ORDER:

JEROME DAVID SALINGER.

JULIUS EVOLA.

FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE.

OSAMU DAZAI.

AYN RAND.

LEWIS CARROLL.

WILLIAM GIBSON.

L. FRANK BAUM.

VLADIMIR NABOKOV.

MAX STIRNER.

Heidegger
Dostoyevsky
Kierkegaard
Nietzsche
Stirner
Wittgenstein
Parmenides
Plato
Kant
Tolstoy

>>3036637
Lovely.

philosophers:
hegel
badiou

writers/poets:
ts eliot
mayakovsky
gaddis
joyce
sebald
proust
genet
bachelard

>>3036637
>JEROME DAVID SALINGER.
>AYN RAND.

why don't you just leave this board?

I don't read nearly enough. Im here because Im depressed.

Nelson Algren
Hunter S. Thompson
Jan Cremer
Fyodor Dostoevsky
Joseph Conrad
James Joyce
Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Theodore Kaczynski
Erich Fromm
Charles Baudelaire

>ctrl-f williams
>zero results

Fuck you're awful, /lit/.

>>3036642

a try-hard

>>3036747
What, Raymond Williams? Really?

Heiddeger
Sartre
Locke
Wittgenstein
Carroll
Farber
Mishima
Burroughs
Bordwell
Bazin

There ya go:

Julius Evola
Fiodor Dostoevsky
Schopenhauer
De Maistre
GK Chesterton
Borges
Nicolas Gomez Davila
Montesquieu
William Butler Yeats
Alexander Pushkin

>>3036837
john, you pleb

Dostoyevsky
Orwell
Camus
Nietzsche
Nabokov
Kafka
Mishima
Dazai
Kurt Vonnegut

>>3036975
The composer?

Aright, fine I'll do it.

Comac McCarthy
William Faulkner
Ralph Ellison
Joseph Conrad
Hemingway
Achebe
Moers
Plato

that's it. How'd I do?

>>3037388
And WB Yeats when I'm in the mood.

Hunter S. Thompson
H P Lovecraft
Jesus Christ
William Burroughs
Warren Ellis
George Orwell
Alan Moore
Edgar Allan Poe
Grant Morrison (Yeah yeah yeah fuck you I read a lot of comics)

>>3036719
Ain't nothing wrong with JD

>>3036997
You're me

>>3036695
You're British. You have a good sense of humor.

John Berryman
W.B. Yeats
Dylan Thomas
Philip K Dick
Virginia Woolf
John Ashbery
Samuel Beckett

I ran out of other ideas... I feel like it's cheating to say I admire a writer when I've only read like one novel by them.

I would pay money to avoid reading a Virginia Woolf novel

>People not guessing things about others.

>>3037422
So You haven't read many novels?

>>3037393
Virgin, probably still in high school.

Fydor Dostoevsky
William Faulkner
Marcel Proust
Ernest Hemingway
F. Scot Fitzgerald
George Orwell
Joseph Conrad
T.S. Eliot
Friedrich Nietzsche
Kurt Vonnegut

This is difficult. So many good writers have so many shitty qualities.

Orwell
Goethe
Thompson

Also I suppose some of the usual suspects, maybe Barthes, Bakunin. Eh.

Ray Bradbury
Epicurus
Sophocles
Twain
Darwin
Hemingway
Dickinson
George Orwell
Themistocles
Poe.
(In before mainstream shit)

>>3037454
You're American. Between 18 and 22.

>>3037464
Oh and maybe Shakespeare.

>>3037469
Yeah you got that right.

Though that is a lot of people here.

>>3037490
True. But I'm not one of them. So more points for me.

>>3035995
>mussolini
>Lenin
>Orwell

i would be interested in finding out your actuall political orientation

>>3036028
you need to study some marxist philosophy. The fascists are definitely not a marxist party, as proscribed by lenin, and breivik is absolutely not a gramscian

>>3036220
>uniting all classes
>welfare

yeah, you might have read Mussolini but have read at most one book by marx, or have absolutely no understanding of him.

Aristotle
Kierkegaard
Nietzsche
Wilde
Wittgenstein
Heidegger
Camus
Foucault
Ginsberg
Diogenes

franz kafka
socrates
knut hamsun
immanuel kant
renedescartes
fjodor dostojevski
fernando pessoa
franz kafka
franz kafka

>>3037580

babby who hasn't read enough to create a meaningful list of admirable writer

Aristotle
Diogenes
Kierkegaard
Nietzsche
Huysmans
Wilde
Wittgenstein
Heidegger
Camus
Foucault

What's with all the love for Diogenes here? I'm not opposed, he was a pretty awesome character, I've just never seen anything like it.

>>3037586
no u

>>3037592

he was a pretty cool dude

>>3037592
he didn't even write anything.

>>3037614
also he was most likely a mythical character transcribed from different real life characters in Athens

>>3037654

except that he did his philosophizing in sinope

Kant
Machiavelli
Hemingway
Conrad
Marcus Aurelius
Erich Paul Remark
Ralph Ellison
Edgar Allan Poe
Rudyard Kipling
Henry James

Walter Benjamin
Theodor Adorno
William T. Vollman
James Agee
Jeanette Winterson
Yukio Mishima
Toni Morrison
Dionne Brand
Thomas Pynchon
Steve McCaffrey

>>3036027
I have. I have cyclothymia and when I used to get depressed I'd listen to the full Celebration of the Lizard and it always made me feel better.

>>C.S Lewis
>>J.R.R Tolkien
>>The Buddha
>>Scott. F. Fitzgerald
>>Ayn Rand
>>Anne Rice
>>Brent Weeks
>>Mary Shelley
>>J.K Rowling
>>Tess Gerristen
>>Bram Stroker

Been trying to read more classics and older stuff sadly most of this list is more modernish writers.

Philosophers are not people to be admired. They do little more than use their brain for its intended purpose.

Dostoevsky
Mishima
Nietzsche
Strindberg
Voltaire
Nabokov
Dazai
Hemingway
Kerouac
Proust

>>3038966
WOAAHHH DOOD

Jesus Christ
Confucius
Charles Dickens
Brian Jacques
A.A. Milne
Berkley Breathed
C.S. Lewis
Victor Hugo
Ryohgo Narita
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Celine
Bataille
Lacan
Hegel
Mishima
Dazai
Huysmans
Gaddis
Purdy

>>3039206
hipster faggot and aspiring charlatan

>>3039236
go back to /sci/

Arthur Schopenhauer
Karl Popper
Eugene O'Neill
Frederick Crews
Richard Posner
JG Merquior
Albert Camus
WVO Quine
Steven Pinker
Douglas Hofstadter
Niccolo Machiavelli (Discourses of course)

Junichi Yamakawa

Vladimir Nabokov
Fyodor Dostoevsky
William Shakespeare
Charles Baudelaire
Jacques Prevert
Albert Camus
Elizabeth Smart
Paul Verlaine
Pier Paolo Pasolini
Nikolai Gogol

>>3039271
>Junichi Yamakawa
dohohohohoohoh

Husserl
Heidegger
Leibniz
Descartes
Plato

Proust
Larkin
Hughes
Tolstoy
Camus

Baruch Spinoza
GWF Hegel
Immanuel Kant
Karl Marx
Freiderich Engels
George Orwell
Slavoj Zizek
Howard Zinn
Murray Bookchin
James Joyce
Sigmund Freud

Baruch Spinoza
GWF Hegel
Immanuel Kant
Karl Marx
Freiderich Engels
George Orwell
Slavoj Zizek
Howard Zinn
Murray Bookchin
Noam Chomsky

how can i hold all that spinoza?

Derek Landy
Eoin Colfer
Arthur Conan Doyle
H.P. Lovecraft
Douglas Adams
Rick Riordan
Shakespeare
John Flanagan
Anthony Horowitz
Michael Grant

If fanfics were included:
Derek Landy
Eoin Colfer
Arthur Conan Doyle
H.P. Lovecraft
Douglas Adams
Rick Riordan
Shakespeare
Pen Stroke (Creeping Darkness and Past Sins)
Hephestus (Time Lords and Terror)
Shadowmane

Thomas Hobbes
Niccolo Machiavelli
Arthur Schopenhauer
Aristotle
Vladimir Nabokov
Martin Amis
William Shakespeare
Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Will Self
Arthur Conan Doyle

stephen king
cervantes
evelyn waugh
nietzsche
olaf stapledon
dostoevsky
DFW
plato
flaubert
mishima

Goethe
Kafka
Dostoyevsky
Tolstoy
DFW
Shakespear
Dante
Oscar Wild
Milton
Pushkin

Shakespeare, Nietzsche, Frost, O'Connor, Kant, Pope, Locke

James Joyce
Haruki Murakami
Jean-Paul Sartre
William Gibson
Vladimir Nabokov
Cormac McCarthy
Salman Rushdie
Thomas Pynchon
Franz Kafka
David Foster Wallace

>>3040888
This is me. Also wondering if anyone has recommendations based on the authors I've listed. I want to find some new stuff to read.

name
a different name
name that I heard once
name
name
name that sounds cool
name
name
name
name

I already know what this says about me though

I have no faith in my identity and seek status in an economy of signs to compensate

>>3040925
>implying your true self is found within you instead of immeasurably high above you

Michel Foucault
Ibn Khaldun
Plotinus
Peter Sloterdijk
Mircea Eliade
Yukio Mishima
Georges Bataille
Gilles Deleuze
Austin Osman Spare
René Girard

Kant
Siddharta
Carl Jung
Alan Watts
Julio Cortazar
Shakespeare
Wittgenstein
Fernando Pessoa
Samuel Beckett
Andre Gide

pic is just honorable mention, too much fun

>>3040929
>implying there is such thing as a true self
>implying that objects signify anything about the self
>implying one likes an author for an easily discernible, widely understood reason
>implying anybody is saying anything about people posting these lists, and that this is not just another exercise in an attempt at identity construction

Thomas Hobbes
Walt Whitman
Laozi
Richard Stallman
Leo Tolstoy
Michael Crichton
Guy de Maupassant
Rudyard Kipling
Rabindranath Tagore
Kazi Nazrul Islam

Derrida
Kant
Rick Roderick
Lazar Puhalo
Anne Bronte
Thomas Pinecone
Peake
J. Hillis Miller
Peter Meinke
Elizabeth Gaskell

I'm Martin Heidegger, what is this?

>>3040951

You have an inclination towards cynicism and pessimism, yet you balance that out with a romantic viewpoint from time to time.

must bump

>>3040888

Totally embedded in the world after the Enlightenment, with the occasional melancholy.

>>3037698

Leftist who feels strangely attracted to the fascist aesthetic.

>>3037685

Relatively calm person and not driven to total engagement with the world, but rather finding his personal niche in it.

>>3036947

Not unfamiliar with Weltschmerz.

>>3036637

>Julius Evola
>Ayn Rand

Church of Satan fool detected.

>>3036466

cool list, but what a huge anti-climax...

Max Stirner
Friedrich Nietzsche
Arthur Schopenhauer
Diogenes of Sinope
Aristippus of Cyrene
Bion of Borysthenes
Pyrrho of Elis
D.A.F. de Sade
Ikkyū Sojun
Omar Khayyam

inb4 edgy

>>3041025

Sorry dude but that's pretty damn edgy.

>>3041025

you like the ancient and traditional thinkers/writers more than the more recent ones.
therefore you have little faith in the world of today.

Adolf Hitler
Benito Mussolini
Julius Evola
Carl Schmitt
Savitri Devi
Emil Cioran
Louis-Ferdinand Céline
Oswald Mosley
George Lincoln Rockwell
Varg Vikernes

1.) Sextus
2.) Hume
3.) Montaigne
4.) Diogenes the Cynic
5.) Descarte
6.) Berkeley
7.) David Lewis
8.) Barry Stroud
9.) Dostoevsky
10.) Wittgenstein

>Cicero
>Aristotle
>Diogenes
>Jesus
>Marcus Aurelius
>Thomas Aquinas
>Dante
>Dumas
>Pablo Neruda
>Tolkien

>>3041044

Neo-fascist, but not a bonehead.

>>3041048

Approachable person who likes to fill his free time with epic tales, maybe games.

>>3041045

Critical and sceptical person. Doesn't claim to have the truth and isn't always too kind for those who claim they do.

George Orwell
Bertrand Russel
Saul Bellow
John Steinbeck
Gunter Grass
Stanislaw Lem
Chinua Achebe
Joseph Campbell
Dorothy Allison
Stephen King

>>3040965

spending way too much time on his cultural capital

>>3041065

Yeah, that's fair enough.

>>3041065
not that guy but plz explain.
sometimes I worry that I am spending too much time on my "cultural capital" as you so succinctly put it, and would like your opinion on what a proper level of reading is.

Aldous Huxley
Socrates
Plato
John Locke
Saki
W.B. Yeats
Euclid
Carl Sagan
David Hume
Edgar Allan Poe

>>3041069

i'd say just spend more time reading works that would alter your view on the world and not on what fits the criteria of the intellectual milieu. their approval should never be the motivating force for self-enrichment, fuck them. if you never read levinas, so be it.

>>3041084

How does one read Euclid?

>>3041088

In that case, I take back my fair enough. I thought you meant something else.

I do sincerely like Derrida and Miller. Roderick, Puhalo, and Meinke are references both obscure and rather personal. Peake is harmless. Bronte and Gaskell come with my academic specialization, and everyone loves Pinecone.

Kant, I just like his sense of ethics.

>>3041088
you just turned the word intellectual into the word hipster. thanks for clarifying your view, I am no longer concerned I am spending too much time on my "culture capital."

>>3041106

yeah well, most self-proclaimed intellectuals are hipsters and engage in intellectual activity in an egotist driven manner.
ironically mimicking market rules.

>>3041097
Elements.

Joesph Campbell
Neil Gaiman
Terrence McKenna
Aleister Crowley
Kurt Vonnegut
Richard Dawkins
Grant Morrison
Lawrence Krauss
Frances Mark Mondimore
PKD

>>3041122
instead of out of pure joy like you do?
anything worth doing takes effort imo.

>>3041141

Tripdude and magician.