/lit/ - Literature

Wyndham Lewis hated everyone.

>Quoting a writer who's nowhere near as good or inventive as Joyce in an effort to add credibility to the notion that Joyce sucks.

Your confirmation bias is showing.

>>3005392

I thought he quite liked Hitler?

>the higher a writer's social background the better he is

nigga u dun goofd

yeah he was a but of a fascist prick

vorticism has its merits though

>>3005407

wut?

>>3005397

Yeah, sure, you know exactly what I'm thinking.

The essay doesn't say Joyce Sucks at all, tool, it criticsizes Joyce for being obsessed with the past, but praises him for his ability as a writer

>Mr. Joyce could never have performed this particular feat if he had not been, in his make-up,
extremely immobile; and yet, in contradiction to that, very open to new
technical influences. It is the craftsman in Joyce that is progressive; but the
man has not moved since his early days in Dublin. He is on the side a ‘young
man’ in some way embalmed. His technical adventures do not, apparently,
stimulate him to think. On the contrary, what he thinks seems to be of
a conventional and fixed order, as though perhaps not to embarrass the
neighbouring evolution of his highly progressive and eclectic craftsmanship.

>>3005390
>caring what other people think of other people
>using those cares to validate and reinforce truthiness of subject matter
>having not taste of your own
>2012

This thread is actually semi off-topic

>>3005443
>This thread is actually semi off-topic

>Famous critic's thoughts about one of his contemporaries
>off-topic

what the fuck are you smoking, negro?

there's a certain irony in you posting though. Why do you care what I think?

The fairest criticism Lewis levels at Joyce is definitely that Joyce cannot into characters.

>A susceptibility to verbal clichés is, however, not at all the same thing as a susceptibility to such a cliché as is represented by a stage Jew (Bloom), a stage Irishman (Mulligan), or a stage Anglo-Saxon (Haines).

And Dedalus himself is such a cliched "starving angry poet" that it's not even funny.

>all them based Irish writers
Are you even trying rest of the world?

>dyed-in-the-wool Modernist
>criticizing Joyce

haha holy shit, Modernism confirmed for worst literary movement of all time

>>3005502

>Saging a thread that's actually about literature.

Shig.

>>3005509

Donna Tartt, Winner and current defender of the 1992 Nikolai Gogol Lookalike Award.


>>3005409
Seriously, what is it with Modernist writers and fascism? I guess that was just a "modern" thing at the time. Still, Lewis did correctly point out that Joyce was a tryhard dilettante.

>>3005409

A lot of genius poets at the time leaned towards fascism.

>>3005525

>Seriously, what is it with Modernist writers and fascism?

If you've never studied fascism before, it's actually a very thought-provoking philosophy which anyone interested in culture could find interesting in some way. I'm dumbfounded when people seem to think poets like Ezra Pound were "insane" for their beliefs... they're easy to sympathize with if you ask me. It's a shame most people seem to be educated towards a propagandist disregard for certain things.

Wilde shits on James Joyce

>>3005670
fascism is an intellectual ideology. that's it'smajor problem: it's too exclusive.

>>3005525
i only know about the futurists, but for them, it was more about the change facism provided than facism itself, because change is obviously a pretty big paradigm in modernist literature.

>>3005682

I'm sure they'd both enjoy it enormously.

>>3005680
But Pound just appropriated those beliefs from his readership, or at least Gaddis says something to that effect in Agape, Agape.

>>3005525

In Lewis' case his flirtation with fascism was probably because he was a cranky bastard, but also possibly linked to his belief in the future over the past, his contempt for his sontemporaries and an appeal for authenticity.

>“Your flabby potion is a mixture of the lies of Liberalism, the poor froth blown off the decadent Nineties, the wardrobe-leavings of a vulgar bohemianism…. You are concentrated, highly-organised barley water; there is nothing in the universe to be said for you: any efficient state would confiscate your property, burn your wardrobe – that old hat and the rest – as infectious, and prohibit you from propagating.

>A breed of mild pervasive cabbages has set up a wide and creeping rot in the West… that any resolute power will be able to wipe up over night with its eyes shut. Your kind meantime make it indirectly a period of tribulation for live things to remain in your neighbourhood. You are systemis-ing the vulgarising the individual: you are the advance copy of communism, a false millennial middle-class communism. You are not an individual: you have. I repeat, no right to that hair and to that hat: you are trying to have the apple and eat it too You should be in uniform and at work. NOT uniformly OUT OF UNIFORM and libelling the Artist by your idleness. Are you idle? The only justification of your slovenly appearance it is true is that it’s perfectly emblematic.”

Herman Melville - looking like Hugh Grant for over 200 years

Alfred Molina de la temps perdu

Why did you post an image of Steve Buscemi?

>>3007504

I didn't. yet