/lit/ - Literature

No, his eye freaks me out though.

Some charlatan believed something stupid? Doesn't bother me at all, why would it?

>2012

who are you quoting?

I'm more bothered by every Cold War writer who wasn't a Stalinist.

does it bother you that Stalin was a fan of George Formby?

"Turned out nice again, di'n'it?"

>>2978603
George did write pretty racey lyrics.

>>2978486
Are you sure?

why does /lit/ hate communism so much, anyway

>>2978700
i don't hate communism. it's just an idea.

i hate communists, because communism is a fucking stupid idea. ergo, communists are fucking stupid.

>>2978700
/lit/ loves communism.

>>2978700

Any theory that cannot be practiced in reality is a horrible theory.

>>2978608
"Me Aunt Maggie's Remedy"

*wink* know what you mean, guv!

>>2978700
Swarms of edgy teens will tell you how stupid you are for not believing it's premises (which they don't know because they've never bothered to read anything by Communist theorists.)

Secondly, the theories themselves inspired and informed the regimes of some of the greatest murderers in history, bar none.

>>2978757

The theory of evolution has inspired people to be assholes, is that the theory's fault?

>>2978486
Yes, it's bad for the reputation of Stalinism.

Yes. All totalitarians bother me.

But that doesn't mean I won't steal his arguments for my own arsenal.

Thanks for the guns, Sartre.

>>2978700
Not to discount the crimes of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot et al, but it's because of toxic soup of cold war propaganda, western double standards, lack basic historical understanding, and white privilege.

>>2978894
white privilege? that explains why the Nagurs have never managed to make communism work. or the south americans. or the chinese. or the north koreans. or the british.

>>2978910
oh, but wait - NONE of them were implementing "true" communism. which doesn't exist.

sort of like True Christianity.

it's a vague idea whose definitions change depending on what you're discussing, sometimes changing in mid-sentence.

i'm happy to let socialist theorists argue, because it's what they do best. keeps them out of the way of the rest of us as we get on with the process of real life.

but name one communist country you would live in. just one.

>>2978926
That's a mere platitude. The same reasoning applies to capitalism, slavery and colonialism.

>>2978910
If society affords you a very measurable economic and social benefit just for being who you are you're far less likely to want to change the status quo.

/lit/ is probably the most leftist board on 4chan.

>>2979019
Well it's the most overly serious group of kids trying as hard as they can to sound intellectual, so what else would you expect?

Not like me. I'm an overly serious kid trying as hard as I can to sound down-to-earth. How's it working so far?

>>2979019
I wonder what's the most right-wing. /k/?

>>2978894
This one.

And the fact that /lit/ is irreparably infested with /pol/.

There are philosophical reasons to dislike socialism and Marxism but claiming that the ideas are somehow not applicable due to the results of conscious, living human beings using them as a mere means to shore up their totalitarian view of the human condition borders on disingneuous. You do realize tyrants have used everything from liberal democracy (Jacobins, the US in its extermination policy of the natives and the conquest of half of Mexico, Hawaii, the Philippines and Cuba), nationalism (Napoleon, fascist movements, Chiang Kai-Shek, various US presidents again), to various religious/theological constructs (too many to name, but c.f. late antiquity until the 18th century in Europe, Muslim Caliphates) and straight up plunder and expansionism as a pretext to ruin people's lives. So it's a little shallow to just single out socialism as an ideology as somehow uniquely capable of facilitating tyranny and mass murder.

I don't have a problem with someone being a communist but I do have a problem with someone who is willing to support a totalitarian regime just because it's communist.

>>2979221
We have the benefit of decades on hindsight on that assessment, but you are correct. One of the few intellectuals in Europe willing to call bullshit in Stalin in the 1930s was George Orwell.

>>2979019
I'm sure I can out-left all of you put together.

>>2979242
Nuh-uh.

>>2979244
You don't know man. You seriously don't know.

>>2979252
I surrender

>>2979257
Oh, a French guy. Well then,
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochocratie

Too much fag

it's so easy to fuck with /lit/.

>>2978757
Except most of the people posting on /lit/ know way too much about it

Sartre is liberal ayn rand

>>2978926
cuba

Marxism is too modernist for me, and Sartre was an ontological failure.

Satre was an anarchist by the end of his life.......

>>2979083
or /pol/

>>2981546
/pol/ has been going to shit lately because of the election coming up. It's probably at its most liberal right now.

It worries me more that stalin ever claimed to be a communist, but Sartre was a penis regardless.

>>2981420
>>2981420

>Sartre was an ontological failure.

lel
idontthinkyouknowwhatthatwordmeans.tiff


anyway, Sartre only half assed his politics (he later abandoned marxism altogether) and mainly fed off the youthful energy of the student movements to stop himself from feeling too much like a bourgeois even though deep down he knew he was nothing but that, and so tada! we have "bad faith"...you gotta admire an honest hypocrite,
i still think he was pretty fucking cool tbh,

>>2981597

accidental sag

He banged a supur hot filosofer betch

>existentialism
>satanism
I'm kinda not sure If that compute.

>>2981649
Oh it was Stalinism. I blame my bad sight, must put on glasses again.

>>2981597

Very true. What did you think of his Road to Freedom series? In my opinion they outdo even Nausea.

>>2978894
>white privilege

>murdering a peasant because he teaches children in the village

kill yourself

>>2978496

Charlatan is a pleb's favorite word.

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