/lit/ - Literature

>become a stronger version of yourself, let it be physically or mentally?

>valuing strength
>presuming strength comes from knowledge
>presuming knowledge comes solely from nonfiction

a real hat trick, zowzers

>utilitarianism

>>2890550
>aware me
You could do with some basic English textbook yourself.

>>>/sci/

>>2890560
>>2890561
>>2890564
>>2890567
never change, /lit/

stay autistic

>aware me
>brb

dyel?

>>2890570

>ad hominem

>>2890574
>nothing to reply with
>better call them autistic

>>2890574
misc?

in fact, i do

Do you really think you can't learn any of those from reading fiction?

I feel pity for you.

Because it's fun

Why do you think these authors are renowned world-wide?

>>2890582
no you humongous faggot.

the average guy will put the book down and go onto the next one

in order to truly learn something you need to do it/read it multiple times until it sinks in, jesus christ do you even neuro-psychology?

I'm sorry, OP, but that is the most stupid point I have ever heard anyone make ever.

>>2890586
just an example

>>2890595
you must be 12

maybe you're too stupid to "get" literary fiction. no, you probably haven't considered this option. i don't blame you. no one wants to think they're stupid.

>>2890592

>I can't come up with real argument, better call the other person a faggot.

apply your critical thinking skills, op. i'm sure you can figure out how reading fiction could teach you about the world around you.

>>2890600

you must be 16

>>2890597
>pessimism
no fuck off

>>2890597
>apply your critical thinking skills, op. i'm sure you can figure out how reading fiction could teach you about the world around you.

brb reading LOTR series

HOLY MOTHER OF FUCK I CAN RIDE A DRAGON NOW
THANK YOU BASED J. R. R. TOLKIEN AND CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS

>>2890608
0/10

>>2890608

I bet you thought you could actually troll someone

>>>not learning shit from fiction

Shiggy ma diggy doo dah.

>>2890616
>>2890618
come at me LOTR hardcore fan boys

wow i actually thought you geeks would be more interesting and challenging

>>2890638
Come on OP, you can do better than this. It's not trolling unless someone actually gets mad.

>>2890638

I find it overwhelmingly ironic that a guy comes on here and denigrades the value of literature whilst spouting bodybuilding memes.

>>2890638
spending your time reading lotr is more productive than making these kind of threads on 4chan.

"I was born perfect, been that way ever since"

>>2890647
marry me

>>2890650
amazing.

>>2890648
y-you too

>philosophy
>implying it's not just stating the obvious in erudite language

People like to be entertained. And most people don't think they need to become a better person. Also, you'd be better off doing the things you listed instead of reading about them. Except for a few, which people would likely only read about to entertain themselves.

Things don't need to have an immediate use. Books are not merely means to a goal, but a goal on themselves. It's not about settling down or anything like that, but about living life as it is, without the need to post-pone and dream about some gain coming from it. People will live life in a variety of ways.

A waste of time has nothing to do with activities themselves, but on how they diverge from what you really want to do, falling for vices, anxieties and bad habits. You think it's a waste of time, because it's not what you really want to do, but you are missing that others will have different needs, desires and interests, that need no justification to make sense, as they are part of the core of that person.

And as a secondary argument, self-improvement comes from fiction as well. It comes from anything, really, you are always changing, thinking, having insights. "Art is a lie that makes us realize the truth".

Self-improvement is only relative to who we are. If deep inside you see yourself as a martial artist, you might not want to "waste time" studying a chemistry textbook in depth, if you ought to become a doctor, you might not want to "waste time" training a kick for hours. Who are we to say what others are made of underneath their skin?

One thing fiction can teach you is to enter other contexts and frames of mind, so to understand them. This is one thing that is lacking in you, OP and that should make you a much more stronger person.

>>2890657
>Implying you could explain it in any type of language

No no no, youre right you totally are smarter than a whole branch of human thought, you just aren't trying right?

>>2890658
>>2890683
a sane post, finally

>>2890550
Because I suffer from a severe compulsion to disassociate from reality and I don't want to be reminded of it.