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Exit-level poetry?

>> No.2855312

larkin

>> No.2855321

Ok op.
You post some first.

>> No.2855324

What does "exit-level" mean. Leaving /lit/?

>> No.2855325

Hagiwara Sakutaro

>> No.2855329

>>2855324
It means stuff that is likely to make you kill yourself

>> No.2855334

>>2855324
hey 3rd.

I wish I could leave /lit/. It's just the opposite of "entry-level"
>>2855321
Okay, Hart Crane.

>> No.2855337

>>2855334
>I wish I could leave /lit/. It's just the opposite of "entry-level"

it's not. you missed the joke. it's literature that is about suicide or that is exceedingly depressing. it's not even a complicated joke and yet no one gets it. that's not what it is at all + anyone seriously posting about "exit-level" literature as the opposite of "entry-level" would be an enormous idiot, it's the stupidest concept ever.

>> No.2855340

Russell Edson

>> No.2855343

>>2855337
Oh. Fair enough.

Recommend some poetry, pls.

>> No.2855345

>>2855337
considering how popular "entry-level" is used to describe stuff here and on /mu/, i think interpreting "exit-level" as the opposite is an entirely reasonable interpretation

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>>2855337
>>2855334
Outside of Agnes Dei's suicide note, which is lampoon and hardly a poignant sentiment regarding suicide, how is The Recognitions depressing or suicidal?

I mean if you wanted to keep that one on the list categorically because there's a (failed) suicide in it go right ahead but sentimentally it seems out of place. Maybe consider replacing it with Kafka's
The Fall'

>> No.2855352

>>2855345
I can see why you might think "exit-level" being the opposite of entry-level was entirely reasonable, given that you are obviously a complete fucking moron.

>> No.2855354

The poetry of the authors already on the exit-level list, Paul Celan, Blaise Cendrars and Osip Mandelstam.

>> No.2855356

>>2855343
sorry if i was harsh, i'm just worried that "exit-level as the opposite of entry-level" is going to become a thing and get really annoying

anyway, for some poetry recs - pound if you haven't read pound. rjeffers, charles olson, marianne moore, zukofsky. donald justice.

>> No.2855360

>>2855348
Agreed. I didn't find The Recognitions or Jakob Von Gunten or Petersburg to be really depressing/suicidal.

I just thought they were good but lesser known novels.

>> No.2855362

>>2855356
I think that's "patriciancore."

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2855365

This a million times. The author shot himself in the heart in the room next to his wife and he finished the book.

>> No.2855372

>>2855356
>pound
Question: beyond them being pretty, what's the point in reading The Cantos? I imagine it to be like reading Finnegans Wake except longer.

>> No.2855380

>>2855372
The Cantos are tied up into Pounds idiosyncratic reading of classical poetry and commentary on the times he lived in. Apart from being a reckonable stylist you have that approach going for their preservation.

Pound had the courage to live recklessly and outside of any kind of- even contemporaneous- boundaries, and for the volume that went into that he's remembered. Vollmann operates on the same axiom.

>> No.2855390

>>2855365

Sounds great. Than you for bringing him up.

>> No.2855392

>>2855380
That's a pretty long way to say Pound uses words to showcase his ideas.

>> No.2855395

>>2855380
>The Cantos are tied up into Pounds idiosyncratic reading of classical poetry and commentary on the times he lived in

Yeah this basically. The FW comparison isn't a bad one, they're both pretty essential modernist texts imo. And Cantos are beautiful, idiosyncratic, astonishing in scope, great in the way that great art is great.

>>2855392
yeah but he does it really, really, really well

>> No.2855410

>>2855392
Oh, you!

; )))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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>>2855392

>> No.2855434

>>2855395
>>2855380
I see thanks for the information guys.

>> No.2855498

>>2855415
is there still a litchat?

>> No.2855514

>>2855498
Yeah it's /litx but we just died out about 4 minutes ago, sorry. Try 4 am pacific time or 9pm eastern time.

>> No.2855514,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>2855337
It's the first thing that comes to mind for somebody that hasn't heard the phrase before. It's a rational assumption.