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He probably believed the government should be fair and structured and helpful without being overbearing, but it's really made up of complete idiots.

>government
Do you niggers even know what that word means?

>>2829107
>in SH5 he seems more Republican, seeing the government as structure for people
What?

anti government
libertarian

>>2829113
>probably
Some people could say that, but he never really has a preference to that. In BoC, he mocks America's capitalistic system and makes Communism sensible.
>...based on sharing, but no one wants to share...
The real reason nothing works out is because of human spirit according to him.

>>2829141
Probably. He sounds like he wants to even start revolution sometimes.

>>2829138
Sorry, that's the worst way I could have said that. What I mean is in that book, centered around the madness of war and the destruction it causes, he wants to show how facetious war in general is. Structure can't even be found in the peaceful times after war because the memories still haunt the people who were part of it...

...the more I talk about it the less clear what he's saying about government comes to me...

>>2829107
he was a socialist

>>2829180
weird how you never say the word government in that entire elaboration

its almost like you're not talking about government but rather war? is that what you mean? vonnegut was anti-war.

Stop focusing on the person.

Being one way or the other is not really the thing we should be thinking about. Consider what he says and keep that with you despite classifications.

People are obsessed with names...

>>2829188
It's obvious that he's antiwar, I think he might even explicitly say that sometimes, I'm just wondering what exactly he was trying to say was wrong with governments in the modern age.

I want to know the roots and mindset of the author so I can fully weigh his opinion against mine.

>>2829107
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Vonnegut#Politics

THERE.

>>2829182
/thread.

>>2829206
>The only difference between Hitler and Bush is that Hitler was elected

>>2829194
Ugh.

I bet you're one of those kids who always say "why do you care what people think? just read for yourself." in recommendation threads.

You're absolutely the worst kind of poster. When people ask something, try to answer instead of enlighten them about the triviality of their questions. If you can't, don't say anything.

Wait a minute. Hitler was elected? Is this after his failed coup d'etat? I thought he succeeded in his second coup. . .

>>2829217
Man, I once told someone (I live in Germany) that in America they're equating Obama with Hitler, they didn't even laugh. They thought I was lying.
American's really like comparing people to Hitler, don't they?

Not everyone's political views can be placed neatly into a little box. Certainly not a little box which also fits neatly into the mainstream American political framework. So your attempt is basically futile, because Vonnegut was an individual. I also think that Vonnegut probably did not have one thesis about "what is wrong with contemporary government" that you can identify in the first place.

>>2829293

Every US president since LBJ (1964) has been publicly called Hitler.

>>2829293
Many Americans have a tendency to over-exaggerate things, and also lack a comprehensive understanding of who Hitler was, what he did, the magnitude of it, etc. It's very stupid but then American politics is frequently ridiculous - politics everywhere is ridiculous, I suppose, but it's got its own special ridiculousness in America.