/lit/ - Literature

>minorities always abusing the computer services.

Not once have I seen a Maori there to do research. Yet 90% of the computers are occupied by the fuckers.

Mine pretty much sucks too. Bunch of hispanic kids running around and poor black people on the computers. The upper floors are decent though.

>>2801509
Seriously. I see them just watching youtube videos of soccer and playing flash games.

>obese mexican women and their 9-12 children each everywhere
>EVERYWHERE

>>2801509
Yeah and 90% of their sheep are fucked by you occupiers.

bump

I stick to university libraries for these reasons.

Also I hate children and old people

University Libraries are the best type of libraries because everybody is there for either research or education not the reasons described above

My local library is beautiful. The architecture is amazing, a real piece of art.

Also the stacks have a glass floor, but they never let anyone in there anymore ;_;

I couldn't find any pictures of the interior, but it is gorgeous. The library is centered on a large domed rotunda, a huge reading room and non fiction hall branch off to the left, with a beautiful mural about 20x30 feet on the back wall. The interior is all in sparking white marble with soft painted accents, drawing the eye to the lofty ceiling. Up a sweeping, curved marble staircase from the rotunda is the expansive reference room. Off to the right of the rotunda is the former card-catalog room, which now houses some fiction, as well as the smith room, which is down a gleaming white marble staircase with a simply elegant dark wood railing. Downstairs is the children's room, which, by means of a long marble staircase, totally blocks out the noise of the rambunctious young ones. It is a truly gorgeous building. I love that my city is so blessed.

They also have a museum pass program, where you can get into lots of Boston's museums for nearly free.

I don't have anything annoying to say about my library.

It's 5 minutes from where I stay, has a huge selection of books, and even has an art gallery attached to it where you can buy pieces from local artists.

>Visit about 3 months ago
>Had a rambunctious house guest, so I needed quiet to study
>While I'm studying, I smell something pungent
>Turns out it's the homeless man sitting next to me, reading the day's newspaper

It gave me hope for humanity.

>>2801548

oh, I just realized that this is an "annoying shit at the library" thread, not a library general..

Umm, I kind of wish that more of the reference books were in general circulation. They have a huge selection in reference that I love looking at.

Also the building gets kind of cold in the winter and hot in the summer.

>>2801549
>It gave me hope for humanity.
Why, there is nothing of value in newspapers.

>>2801549
>Turns out it's the homeless man sitting next to me, reading the day's newspaper
He was checking to see if Obama was going to give him a house.

>>2801552

Its better than him nodding out on the sidewalk from shooting up, isn't it? He could be looking for a job. Also, i'm not the person who posted that.

>>2801558
>Its better than him nodding out on the sidewalk from shooting up, isn't it?
No, at least that way he's aware of his delusions. And good luck finding a job in a newspaper these days.

>>2801560

I'm that guy. Negativity is bad for you. Work on that.

>>2801567
>Negativity is bad for you.
Why does it feel so good?

>>2801571
Bad things often feel good.

>>2801547
Not at my university library. The entire bottom floor is designated "group study," meaning hundreds of jocks crowding around laptops, talking, laughing, dribbling basketballs, and basically just ejaculating onto every surface. There are always several old, insane "community members" that play poker and shit on the computers.

Upstairs is designated "quiet study," and yet, probably due to the fact that my school is full of stupid fucking people, there is constant noise from conversations, cell phone calls, sonic earbud-leakage, eating noises, and who-the-fuck-knows what else.

Also, it's fucking stuffy as fuck on the second floor, meaning it's easy to fall asleep.

Also, the hours are terrible (closed by 6:00 on Friday and Saturday nights; not open until 1:00pm on Sundays).

>>2801612
Holy shit, that's awful. I wouldn't go to a school with a library like that.

>>2801623
Yeah, it sucks big time. But the school has a lot going for it. (But fuck would I, during exams, love to be able to telelport to another school's library).

I've had to change to a Uni library too. Mines like a day care for old people, and stupid old retired men to go. Then they have a play group for the young incontinent folk, who scream and run around. No one has found the "silent" feature on their phone. The people who are of the age where they still have control over there bowels sit on Facebook, because it's good to get out of the house and do something social.

>>2801551
don't be harsh now

>library parking is a ripoff even with validation
>trying to study at the library
>can't shake the thought of sitting in the same chairs smelly bums have farted and probably ejaculated on
>fucking bums hacking up a lung farting and masturbating when I'm trying to study
>fucking library has most of the books I want in the closed stacks so I have to make a request for them
>this means I have to talk to librarian I had an affair with who decided she wanted to work shit out with her faggot husband

I hate this fucking library but I can't live without it.

>>2801514
6/10

My university has one of the best library systems in the United States, as far as universities go, so I pretty much lucked out there. I can usually get whatever I want and examine a lot of really rare stuff, so research and required reading aren't too bad. Unfortunately it's a large university, so sometimes it can be a chore to get things.

>>2801503
>in a military base most of the time
>find out the base had a library until 5 years ago
>find an oldfag to guide me to where the library once was
>easily open the door after fiddling with shitty lock
>hundreds of books and tapes (yes, VHS) thrown all over the fucking floor, with empty shelves and bookcases
>WHAT IS THIS SHIT

>>2803526
What were the pickings?

I check out e-books. Online.
I reserve real books. Also online.
And they send them to the local lib, I get an automated call when they're there, I go pick them off the shelf and self-checkout. 60 seconds flat, zero human interaction.
Too bad I'm not a NEET hikki. :3

I bumped into a chav from school in my local library. He was sitting at the computer playing rap music - rap music, out loud, in a library. The library didn't have William Gaddis.

>refuge for homeless people and retards
>children
>all 3 groups have no sense of what silence is

Why so racial in your complains /lit/?

>>2803547
Very varied, a lot of books about history and politics of different Arab countries, but also most of the work of Dostoyevsky, Jurassic Park and other "regular" novels. The tapes were mostly recordings of past ceremonies in the base (According to the labels anyway).
I didn't really find anything I was personally interested in, but I brought a few dozen people and we picked everything up and dumped it in the culture officer's room.
I heard he later purchased a great number of books started a library reviving project, but since I had to move to a different base I don't know much about it.,

>>2803559

Rap music is better than any other genre.

I bet you listen to heavy metal u fkin nerd

>>2803503
I go to IU too, what year are you?

My school library (University of Illinois) was awesome. The undergrad library was OK, but the Main Stacks were wonderful. They're crammed with millions of books, there's hardly anyone in there and the lights are kept off (apparently some people go in there to have sex). I'm a pretty depressed person, but I would come out of there with a really wide smile.

>>2803861

>having anonymous fagsex in your school's library

Gross.

The library in my town is an expensive and very beautiful building with a wonderful study atmosphere.

Unfortunately they NEVER have the books I'm looking for.

No Philip K Dick
No William Burroughs
No Tom Wolfe
No Doestevsky translations that are not Constance Garnet

>>2803901
>Constance Garnet Russian
Oh dear. I thought those had stopped being made entirely.

>going to the public library
>germs everywehre
>niggers
>not just buying books on amazon
>not just downloading books to your ipad

>2012

I seriously hope....

Kids pretty much have their own floor with tvs and shit and there aren't that many minorities and I don't care about the minorities and they just dick around on the computers and do not bother me in any way. Manga and comic books have their own little corner.

Montreal is awesome. The french love reading. French girls are hot as fuck.

Why would I ever want an e-reader?

I pity Americans.

> complaining and germs and non-whites

Jeez. I expected you guys to be neckbeard virgins afraid of the world, but I didn't expect you guys to broadcast it to the world and even less take pride in it.

But what the heck, can't expect too much from murricans. They're not all there. *taps on side of head with finger*

>>2803965
Plato was discoursing on his theory of ideas and, pointing to the cups on the table before him, said while there are many cups in the world, there is only one `idea' of a cup, and this cupness precedes the existence of all particular cups.

"I can see the cup on the table," interupted Diogenes, "but I can't see the `cupness'".

"That's because you have the eyes to see the cup," said Plato, "but", tapping his head with his forefinger, "you don't have the intellect with which to comprehend `cupness'."

Diogenes walked up to the table, examined a cup and, looking inside, asked, "Is it empty?"

Plato nodded.

"Where is the `emptiness' which procedes this empty cup?" asked Diogenes.

Plato allowed himself a few moments to collect his thoughts, but Diogenes reached over and, tapping Plato's head with his finger, said "I think you will find here is the `emptiness'."

>>2803965
Minority detected.

>>2803969
No. Just glorious Frenchman.

>>2803646

Starting this fall. For years I used the library through my stepbrother, who went there, and who was absolutely not interested in books in any way whatsoever. So I have some experience with the Wells library (and of course the Lily library from visiting), but I'm just starting out this fall.

>>2801509
I've always said we could save the public library system by eliminating the funding for the computers.

>Seriously. I see them just watching youtube videos of soccer and playing flash games.

This.

>>2801612
...furman library?

i don't/didn't go there, but it's in my hometown. someone was giving me a tour, showing me how they'd turned what was a nice & quiet library, where i used to love going to study during high school, into like a library-cum-social-space sorta thing. technology shit! talk all you want!

Poor kids can't afford computers, so use the ones at the library. They are more of a public service thing than a research thing. I understand how you guys think it's annoying, but as someone who grew up poor where we didn't always have money for internet / computers, the library was really great for me because I could use the ones there.

I also used the traditional library functions, but I can relate with all those kids sitting there. Better they be in the library than on the streets, even better if there were adequate youth clubs for them to go to.

>>2804006
i wonder if the nature of computer usage is consistent with the expectations of all the fucks who thought we should divert all funds to bringing technology into libraries.

yes they bring more people to the libraries, but it's just jobless folk, trying to kill time.

>they could use the computers to get jobs

actually, in my town, the public employment office has a nice computer lab.

Does anyone here pay for borrowing privileges for a private university library that you don't already attend as a student?

the downtown library here has the same sort of problems as OP described, but there are several local branches out in the suburbs. their stacks are a bit shit, but you can go there to work without having to be in the midst of the minority flocks. it would probably even be safe to leave your shit out during bathroom breaks.

>>2804055
I really do understand that and support people using computers in the library. It's a luxury that should be available to everyone. I can imagine what growing up without a computer would do to a kid, though. Should be way smarter and better at concentrating in class.

>>2804069
My nigga.

It's worth it because the uni library also has a god-tier collection of dvds. Every Criterion.

I have to walk for 25 minutes to get to mine even though there's one 10 minutes away but I took a book out in 2008 and didn't take it back so I'm afraid they'll charge me £250 or something.

Anyway the one I go to is utter shit

>whole section dedicated to welfare entitlement, how to know you're getting as much as you're entitled to etc.
>crime and romance section
>autobiography of footballers section
>half of it is for kids with toys and shit
>one copy of Brothers Karamazov hidden away there is the only decent book I've found

>>2804069

Nope, that shit is a ripoff.
The non-alum privileges are usually gimped compared to student privileges.
I just pay humanities students at the big university in town to check stuff out for me.

>>2801503

does anyone still go to the library for the books?

Fucking hell.

My sister worked in a library last year she described as "a jail with books". Most people were there for the free (and slow) internet.

hey op don't feel bad my alma matar for some stupid reason let stinky homeless nignogs off the street come into the library and watch pornos on the computers... (probably some stupid old white bitch in some liberal arts department put them up to it) nothing more frustrating than need to finish up and print out a homework assignment and having to wait while semi-literate hobos watch "bbw" pornos on 3 of 5 printing stations...fuuuuck. oh but god forbid you, a paying student, should so much as talk in this section, i got kicked out by security for talking to a classmate while we worked on homework but watch pornos while smelling like urine hey no problem carry the fuck on!! my school was public but it has a respectable name it's not total shit i don't know why the fuck they did that but it was pretty much infuriating.

>nearby library is relatively small
>pretty quiet, a few hoodlums on the computer
>they have a small selection of books
>okay.jpg
>go to glorious downtown library
>five stories of greatness
>a whole teen center with their filthy YA shit and hip music playing with computers
>they all go there
>no teens in the whole library except that secluded area
>sometimes screen old movies on the first floor
>had a whole Audrey Hepburn week thing going
>top floor is a used bookstore, everything for < $1.00
Love that place, man.
I love the library.

>>2804338
my public library is a bit like that, in terms of the librarians' priorities.

the unemployed minorities go around talking on their cell phones, with their herd of children running everywhere. meanwhile, i get harassed for having out a coffee--in a covered, thermal travel mug.

maybe it's just easier to harass polite, compliant, authority-respecting white people.

>>2804338

Boy, your parents sure as hell didn't get their money's worth. Do you even punctuation?

My uni has three libraries. The first two are usually filled wit undergrads so its usually loud and often pungent with the odor of food.

So I usually go to the one that's usually filled with graduate students. It's way smaller than the other two but people actually go there to study.

>Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
>Glorious, enormous building
>every book I could ever want

Aside from the inevitable children and minorities, I haven't any real complaints. The in-house coffee shop is a bit much, though.

>>2804623
>all them books
>everyone in front of a monitor
>I'm in front of a monitor

WHY.png

>>2804650
Facebook doesn't come in print form?
The computer area is a small section of the library though. It's fucking huge. Pic related.

>>2804657
Damn, I just noticed how 3/4 are on Facebook. all those zuckerberg dollars

>>2804055
>>2804146
It's a waste of money; the computers are the most expensive things in the library. Computers aren't essential to any child's existence, regardless of economic standing. For a kid, computer usage consists almost exclusively of playing Angry Birds and Runescape. This is all well and good, but there's no reason for taxpayers to be responsible for providing the expensive infrastructure for a child to participate in frivolity.

The next time you complain about public libraries being underfunded, try to remember how much of the that funding is allocated for the solve purpose of allowing homeless people to watch porn and children to play flash games. If you want to use a computer, go to a cyber cafe. The primary function of a library is to provide books, not free facebook and porn access.

>>2803597

Nerds listen to space rock, rock, and indie rock.

Burnouts and metalheads listen to metal, dumbass.

Retards and niggers (mutually inclusive) listen to rap.

>>2804055

Blame your fucking parents for deciding to have kids without financial stability. Fuck you and your sob story.

>>2804338
>admit to being a loudmouth talker-asshole
>complain about "nignogs"
>complain about being thrown the fuck out

>>2804743
>indie rock
It's like you don't even know what music is

sure is stormfront in this thread

>>2804782
Sounds like someone has never lived around urban blacks.
I used to be like you, looking down upon racists as ignorant assholes. Then I moved out of the 'burbs and realized that American blacks are truly horrible people to be around.

The worst thing about my local library is that it closed 2 years ago.

I'm still good friends with the last few people who cared to visit it. People around here don't care about literature.

Uppsala Master Race reporting in - Carolina Rediviva might be my favourite place in the entire world.

my library is full of students studying quietly. There are a couple of unemployed regulars looking for jobs and a cool place to stay and they are ok. So I guess my library is ok.

Sometimes I notice that all students here are studying their own notes and textbooks. Very few people really go to the collection.

My university has two libraries, although I've only been in one of them. The computer science section is hideously outdated (it has books on Windows 3.1 programming), but on the whole it's got what you need. Pretty quiet, and filled with people studying; there's a cafe on the ground floor for people to sit in and chat if they want. Most of the library is designated as "silent", and that actually gets enforced.

>>2805016
That is beautiful!
My own university started tearing down the old university building a while ago, which was hilariously ugly and apparently asbestos-ridden so that the majority of books is now in the repurposed town hall. However, the English Seminar has their own library in our building, together with history, sociology and possibly something I'm forgetting. Anyway it's pretty cool, so I'm going to post a picture of that instead. I think it might even have been the university library a few hundred years ago.

>>2805105
I meant to say tearing down the old library building.

My library is ok. Selection is meh, but at least they have most "essentials". Pretty quiet all the time, no major complaints

As for people on computers, the Internet is restricted like most middle schools/high schools. Things like Facebook, Youtube, etc. that are not research-related are blocked. Maybe they should apply this to all libraries and get rid of people abusing the privilege to do dumb shit.

>>2804781

Indie used to refer to independent artists and acts, but the meaning has changed into meaning artists and bands with a specific kind of sound - remotely similar to that of the earlier independent scenes.

>Children
>Elderly
>Poor
>Mentally challenged

Repeat ad nauseum.

>>2805112
yeah, i would think that blocking FB and YT would cut seriously into retards doing dumb shit on the PCs.

that's not to say that there isn't still dumb shit on the internet to be done (see: 4chan).

but it's like when a fat person first starts trying to get healthy, the first things to go are sugary sodas and fast food. there are other ways to get\stay fat, but just these two things can make a huge impact for a lot of fatties.

unfortunately, there's a lot of legit & semi-legit stuff you can do on YouTube, most notably instructional videos. some asshole somewhere is gonna complain that they can't watch Khan Academy videos. maybe they can set it up as a selective filter, or something.

can't think of any legit reason for somebody to go onto facebook, though.

>>2801503
Crazy people at checkout on Mondays.

>>2805524
also, in 40 years that will hopefully be like a 'Mad Men'-esque curiosity of our age, dramatized in television shows set in the 2000s\2010s: go to a library computer area, and every single person is on facebook. be it at a uni library with undergrads, or a downtown library with the unemployed & idle, same exact scene.

>>2801503
used to live in a mid-sized town. not so much in the way of minorities, but there was no self check-out, and sometimes i'd get in line behind suburban moms checking out the max # of books allowed, so 30 children's books. in addition to just scanning everything, they have to keep rearranging because the counter-space is small, and they've got their selection spread out between back-packs and a little plastic children's wagon thingy. and here i am, with one DVD, card out.

and then during peak hours, i'd get to the front of the line and be told that the staff at circulation wasn't getting reserved items (which are behind that counter), just because of the wait it would impose on other patrons waiting in line. but instead, i woul dhave to go the the research counter at the other end of the library, send the research desk-person back across the library to the circulation counter to find my reserved item, then get back into line at circulation.

mtv true life: i'm a beta

Never liked University libraries never really felt comfortable in there. I work at my local public library and yeah everything in this thread is true: white trash and bums using computers, checking out movies (it's really heartbreaking when a parent gets cards for their children just so they can check out more movies [we have a four dvd limit] and always tell them no when they try to check out a book) and fucking everything up, but it makes it exciting and interesting. We have a bum who comes in and goes back to the non fiction section and takes a book on the civil war and just reads it. Over two summers I've watched this clear out our entire civil war history section and now he's moved on to the revolutionary war. We have a summer program for kids and young teens that revolves around reading and getting prizes. Sure we have to bribe them to open a book but it is really heartwarming seeing kids get excited about reading and feels even better when one or two of those kids keep coming back. I couldn't imagine working in a university library they're always so clean and quiet it makes me wonder what the fuck the people who work there do all day.

>>2805627
I hate University libraries because they are filled with slackers anyways. All the time I walk around looking for a book there is some blond blasting music and text messaging her friends. I guess there is a certain amount of snobbery and privilege that you get at University libraries while at a local library there is ignorance and innocence.

>>2805811
>blond

>>2805811
>text messaging her friends
The nerve!

The public library in my hometown is crap, almost all books have to be ordered in from other libraries because the entire library's stock is tailored to old women (bar the children's section of course).
My university library is better but it does have some problems, for example the Vonnegut was limited to SH5 and wrecked copies of Mother Night and Sirens whilst the only copy of In Search of Lost Time bar the french one is the original Moncrieff translation and thus also ancient and in poor repair.
However I can forgive these problems because of the amazing stock it has of works from around the world which embarrasses my local public which doesn't even have a good copy of Leaves of Grass.
A fun fact about the University library is that it's sinking by a few cm each year because the weight of it's books wasn't accounted for when it was designed.

>>2805839
I love that last fact. I wonder how much an ebook server weighs.....
ask someone who works at a uni library anything, though I don't know too much....

>>2805811
The universities you have visited must be shit.

>A fun fact about the University library is that it's sinking by a few cm each year because the weight of it's books wasn't accounted for when it was designed.

My university's library is undergoing a 2 year retrofit process for a similar issue.

>>2804909
I'm from NYC and I'm a wonderful person to be around. Sorry that you're wrong.