/lit/ - Literature

i don't know what method of thought you used to reach that conclusion

what a terrible thread, could you not have at least thrown in a quick phrase about rape in books or something

love me some rape

girl btw

http://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/rape

OP confirmed for Kenneth Clarke. Let it go Ken.

As for the dentist comparison, I've had some serious dental work done without anaesthetic and it wasn't bad. I'd much rather go to the dentist or break a bone than be raped, as rape is not so much physical as mental or emotional.

God I love literature.

most women actually want to be raped

so as i see it, you're probably doing her favour

not only will she cum buckets but she will thereafter be entitled to parade her grief in every conceivable forum and be constantly at the centre of attention which is, incidentally, another thing women crave.

so it's win/ win imho

Rape cannot be excused like that, OP.

Civilization and culture happened and we can't go back from it. Your life is now a logical path in which you have to care for who you are to others, on what your job is going to be, on who you are going to get married and buy a house, on what clothes you should wear. All of that is a power and that power brings responsibilities (yeah yeah, Spiderman).

Rape is forced sex and while under certain circumstances that is not the end of the world, in today's worlds we don't expect it to happen. Our mindsets clearly avoid that with all our energy. People are afraid because they have a lot to lose. It's not the house or the career that is going to be ruined, but your mental health, which is on the brink because of the responsibilities of carrying all those things along with our identity. Rape is an outrageous invasion, not only to our body, but to who we are.

If you are thinking of barbarian tribes in ancient times, then it is hard to tell and I think I don't have a clear argument to support what I'll say next, but maybe rape was not that bad back then.

My entire opinion about rape changed when I learned that most sluts come during the act.
Fuck them for using a gratifying experience to play the victim card for eternity.

I think acquaintance rape is worse, because it shows you were unable to judge that person's character well, and they are simply part of your personal life. If you get raped by a stranger I think it would be easier to try to "forget" about it during the day: if you go to the school where you met your rapist every day, or to the house he used to visit, you have a lot of reminders going on. Plus the reaction from others - it's easier to hate a stranger than a family friend or someone from your social circle. You'll have to deal with people not believing you or still hanging out with them, that's just going to happen.

>>2805455
I agree.

It is entirely a woman's own fault if she is raped by an acquaintance. Rather less her fault if it's a stranger... But possibly more exciting for her too?

So swings and roundabouts...

I want /r9k/ to leave. Forever. As in leave the internet. The adults are tired of you people.

>>2805470

If you want the dick all you have to do is ask.

>>2805470
fucking little slut you loved it you're soaking

>>2805472
>>2805481

It's like I'm really a man among boys

>>2805494

Since when is childish to call whores out on their bullshit.
Lawrence of Arabia got buttfucked by mudslimes but he didn't sit around cry about it on his blog and attended slut walks.
He picked himself up by his bootstraps and avenged himself on the mudslimes by ruining their countries for generations to come.

From a purely physical point of view, your typical rape is no worse than a punch to the face.

Society makes rape worse psychologically by saying to it's victims "Oh - that must have been dreadful! You need therapy!". Another problem is the way people treat sex - especially virginity. If losing your virginity was no big deal, then losing it via rape wouldn't be as traumatic. Similar thing with post-virginity sex, it's still treated like some valuable thing and anyone who takes it is evil.

It's obvious a lot of this anger is in the form of shame and lost pride (especially on the part of family, knowing some stupid kid is fucking your daughter must feel shitty, so you're obviously going to rage when he sneaks one in).

Rape victims aren't allowed to forget about what happened, which makes them suffer so much more.

>>2805375
>(and women)
stfu

>>2805507
You're a dumbass. Rape victims don't wait until someone tells them to feel violated. No one is this fucking thread understands any of it. I'd like to see you or OP get held down by a group of men and forced to suck cock and swallow all their cum. Of course, you probably think that kind of thing is hot which has led you to these off base opinions.

>>2805507
ITT: white neckbeard virgin males who think that repeatedly thrusting into an unlubricated vagina while under the threat of being brutally murdered is like a punch in the face and that victims are overreacting

What if a 6'7 black dude rapes you in the ass and you happen to have an orgasm? Does that rectify what he did to your rectum?

>>2805494

>Assuming things about one's apponent

>Ranting incoherently in response

>WHORES OUT ON THEIR BULLSHIT

Yes, sir, you are mad

Well I for one thought OP made an intelligent, thought-provoking point. Who gives a shit if it's lit-related, this is better than the majority of threads on lit at the moment.

>>2805540
Hi, OP.

>>2805537

Considering most sluts don't even resist and just lay there and take it, I can't really find it in myself to care.

>>2805551
You must really have some sort of social impediment that stops you from engaging with people if you think all rape victims are sluts.

Please look up "learned helplessness"....or just keep in mind that rape victims are under the threat of being killed. Why would they even try to resist?

go back to /b/

>>2805553

How is that any different from being robbed?
In most cases the dumb bitches got taken for something they regularly give up for free anyway.
I have more sympathy for a struggling mother who gets robbed for her monthly paycheck than some slut who cries because some ugly dude fucked her.

Well, statistically 9/10 people enjoy group rape.

>>2805558
6/10

>>2805545
lol. well, that was predictable, i guess.

>>2805558
>dumb bitches got taken for something they regularly give up for free anyway

dat bitterness

>>2805566

>implying i dont love sluts
>implying that means i want to hear them bitch about being sluts

Nice double doubles by the way.

>>2805570
>implying you are familiar with the physical sensation of touching female flesh

>>2805431
Just fuck you ass hole.
>>2805507
How about you go through something as traumatic as rape? Is really being strangled, forcibly pinned down, threatened and physically violated exactly the same as being punched in the face? Come on man, don't be so stupid.

CAN WE GET SOME BITCHES UP IN HERE WHO WILL ADMIT THEY WANT TO BE RAPED and/or REGULARLY FANATASISE ABOUT BEING RAPED?

ESPECIALLY SKINNY BITCHES WHO WILL USE A TRIP AND POST PROOF OF SEX.

WE WANT TO KNOW ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN AND- THIS IS KEY- FROM WHAT AGE YOUR RAPE FANTASY DEVELOPED.

FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD A SEXUALLY PRECOCIOUS 13YO HAVE RAPE FANTASIES? OR WOULD THEY DEVELOP LATER?

DO I LOVE HEARING ABOUT AND FROM SLUTS WHO WANT TO BE RAPED? WOO DADDY, DO I EVER!

>>2805578

>tfw no underage gf who is into rapeplay

Goddamn you christian morals.

>>2805577

Of course being raped is nothing like getting punched in the face, you might actually suffer permanent damage or death from getting punched in the face.

>>2805578

So what if women have rape fantasies?

I have fantasies about rape too but I would never in a million years rape someone. Just like I have fantasies about incest but would never actually do it. Fantasies mean nothing.

>>2805600

>having incest fantasies

Go back to /b/ you sick fuck.

>>2805600
Not only that, but autists don't understand that when psychologists say that women have rape fantasies, they're not really "rape", but more forceful, aggressive, and sometimes violent sex with a person of their choosing.

>>2805604

>thinks incest is sick but says nothing about rape

lol

>>2805607

>comparing a crime against nature to a slut being a slut

Come on now.

violation of ones essence

is of greater impact than the greatest meteor

>>2805611

>>>/r9k/

>>2805375

I feel the comparison between rape and a trip to the dentist is a poor one. With a trip to the dentist, you are choosing to visit the dentist for a procedure, a procedure which is designed to prevent a more painful future condition from developing.

Rape is more like if a dentist followed you home one night, forced your mouth open, then began drilling in your teeth, possibly while repeatedly asking you "Is it safe?"

>>2805611
The Westermarck effect is just a social construct.

Sure, there's the thing about reduced genetic diversity and all that, but we're not programmed to avoid intercourse with siblings by nature.

>>2805624

I guess that also makes rape a social construct.

WHEN IT COMES RIGHT DOWN TO IT, DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHAT WOMEN THINK?

THEY'VE PULLED OFF THIS AMAZING TRICK OF BEING INFERIOR IN EVERY WAY AND YET STILL ATTAINING THE WHIP-HAND IN MATTERS RELATING TO THEIR COMPLEMENTARY, MORE POWERFUL, IN EVERY WAY MORE SIGNIFICANT SEX.

I'VE OFTEN WONDERED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE MEN OF THE WORLD UNITED AND, WITH A COMMON VOICE, SAID, "RIGHT- ENOUGH OF THIS SORT OF THING", AND JUST TOOK ALL WOMEN INTO CUSTODY; THEIR OPINIONS AND DESIRES AND REQUESTS TO BE IGNORED. TO EFFECTIVELY BECOME HONOURED PETS- BY NO MEANS PHYSICALLY MALTREATED BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, HARDLY TO BE TURNED TO FOR DECISIONS.

I MEAN- HOW COULD THEY STOP US? WITH THEIR ARMIES AND NAVIES AND AIR-FORCES? WITH THEIR CURLING-TONGS?

THAT'S WHY ALL THIS GIRL-POWER NONSENSE WE ARE EXPECTED TO NOD ALONG WITH IS SO FARCICAL. ALL THEIR POWER STEMS FROM MEN; IT IS A GIFT FROM US TO THEM. THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY TENNANTS IN OUR WORLD AND ONLY THEIR CUNTS ALLOW THEM TO PAY THE RENT.

JUST IMAGINE THE BEATIFIC LOOK OF REALISATION CROSSING THEIR EN-MASSE FACE WHEN THEY ARE FINALLY TAUGHT WHO'S REALLY IN CHARGE AROUND HERE.

>>2805623
ITS NOT MALPRACTICE IF U ENJOY IT

>>2805631
mmmmmkay, that's problematic for a number of reasons

>>2805631

>HOW COULD THEY STOP US?

I think you are seriously underestimating the power of the pussy.

>>2805631

>this is what MRAs actually believe
>mfw helots errywhere

>>2805644
THE POWER OF THE PUSSY STEMS FROM THEIR CURRENT ABILITY TO CHOOSE TO WHOM IT SHALL AND SHAN'T BE VISITED.

FIGHT THE POWER.

FEMALES ARE MORE DESIROUS OF BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP THAN MEN. THE INTIMACY AND SENSE OF SIGNIFICANCE TO LENDS THEM IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM THAN THE BENFITS FLOWING TO THE MALE.

SO WHY SHOULD THE MALE- MORE POWERFUL IN EVERY SENSE, MORE INGENIOUS AND INVENTIVE, MORE RATIONAL- CHASE THE FEMALE?

WHY SHOULD HE NOT SIMPLY TAKE HER INTO CUSTODY, SET THE GAME AT AN END, AND PROCEED WITH HIS LIFE WITHOUT THE HINDERANCE OF SPENDING SO MUCH OF HIS VITALITY PURSUING THE RULES OF AN INHERRENTLY UNBALANCED GAME?

>>2805662
>>2805631

this is why "australian philosopher" is a null set

THE ARTWORLD ALLOWS FOR SUCH SAFE POSTMODERN DISTANCING, JUST LIKE TREADMILL FETISHISTS NEED, JUST AS REDUCED LAZY PERVERTS SPOUT WHEN THEY'RE FRANTICALLY TRYING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST CRIMINAL PROSECUTION, GRUBBING JOB-HUNTING ARTISTS AND ART AFICIONADOS WHO PREFER ART THAT 'RAISES QUESTIONS' ARE CERTAINLY AS DISGUSTING AS THOSE RUBBERED DILETTANTES WHO RECOGNISE THAT THE ANSWERS ARE WHAT YOU MASTURBATE OVER. ONCE YOU'RE OUT OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, YOU CAN'T APPRECIATE MERE QUESTIONS. UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOU'D PREFER TO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE RESPONSES THAT THOSE QUESTIONS PRODUCE IN PUBLIC.

SO BETTER TO JUST SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH ☻

LIFE IN THIS SOCIETY BEING AT BEST AN UTTER BORE AND NO ASPECT OF SOCIETY BEING AT ALL RELEVANT TO WOMEN, THERE REMAINS TO CIVIC-MINDED, RESPONSIBLE, THRILL-SEEKING FEMALES ONLY TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT, ELIMINATE THE MONEY SYSTEM, INSTITUTE COMPLETE AUTOMATION AND ELIMINATE THE MALE SEX. IN OUR SEARCH FOR EXTREMES, WE ARE CONSTANTLY BOMBARDED WITH HUMANIST, FEMINIST AND OTHER EQUALLY ASSININE DIATRIBES THAT WRITERS EMPLOY TO ALLEVIATE THE STRAIN ON THEIR "CONSCIENCE" OR TO TRY AND SEDUCE US INTO THEIR MAUDLIN WORLD OF FALSE SECURITIES AND SELF-CONTEMPT. S.C.U.M. EXISTS, THEN, FOR THOSE WHO DESIRE EXTREMES AND ARE TIRED OF LISTENING TO, AND/OR ACTING LIKE HOUSEPETS. S.C.U.M. SATIATES AND ENCOURAGES TRUE LUSTS.

>>2805375
Yep. Lots of people have had experiences which, according to other countries' laws, or to other genders' expectations, were supposed to be 'traumatic', but simply didn't have the schooling to realize they were now experiencing a crime worse than murder, and so they went on not being traumatized.

>>2805375
As it is right now, its somewhat serious. However if we take away the "rape hype" and lessen the "seriousness" of it, then the person getting raped/raping wont be in alot of emotional distress as they will be. Rape requires both the rapist and the rapee mindset. If we take away the rapist mindset and the rapee mindset, all it leaves is a bit of roughing up of the physical body. Then again all things can be de-powered like that if only we have the proper mental conditioning as a society.

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>>2805827
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>>2805828
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>>2805833
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>>2805834
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>>2805836
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:08 No.2805375
Does anyone else feel, in all seriousness, that rape is- although a serious personal infringement- not quite the capital crime it is framed as?

And possiby that it is our- society's- response to rape that creates the greater part of the sense of victimisation felt by men (and women) who have been raped?

It seems to me that the physical act of rape- although intensely unpleasant- is over very quickly and not, generally, an incredibly painful one. Very uncomfortable at worst for a woman, perhaps rather painful for a man; a trip to the dentist, in other words, or maybe a very minor broken bone.

Hardly the sort of thing that entitles a victim of rape to enter these profoundly shocked & victimised states or that should induce society to regard these unfortunates as some sort of martyred heroes, constantly reinforcing through positive feedback their feelings of discomfort & distress until they reach life-defining levels.
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:10 No.2805379
i don't know what method of thought you used to reach that conclusion
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:10 No.2805380
what a terrible thread, could you not have at least thrown in a quick phrase about rape in books or something
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:14 No.2805392
love me some rape

girl btw

Popular Rape Books Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:14 No.2805393
http://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/rape
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:14 No.2805395
OP confirmed for Kenneth Clarke. Let it go Ken.

As for the dentist comparison, I've had some serious dental work done without anaesthetic and it wasn't bad. I'd much rather go to the dentist or break a bone than be raped, as rape is not so much physical as mental or emotional.
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:14 No.2805396
God I love literature.
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:18 No.2805405
most women actually want to be raped

so as i see it, you're probably doing her favour

not only will she cum buckets but she will thereafter be entitled to parade her grief in every conceivable forum and be constantly at the centre of attention which is, incidentally, another thing women crave.

so it's win/ win imho

Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:29 No.2805422
Rape cannot be excused like that, OP.

Civilization and culture happened and we can't go back from it. Your life is now a logical path in which you have to care for who you are to others, on what your job is going to be, on who you are going to get married and buy a house, on what clothes you should wear. All of that is a power and that power brings responsibilities (yeah yeah, Spiderman).

Rape is forced sex and while under certain circumstances that is not the end of the world, in today's worlds we don't expect it to happen. Our mindsets clearly avoid that with all our energy. People are afraid because they have a lot to lose. It's not the house or the career that is going to be ruined, but your mental health, which is on the brink because of the responsibilities of carrying all those things along with our identity. Rape is an outrageous invasion, not only to our body, but to who we are.

If you are thinking of barbarian tribes in ancient times, then it is hard to tell and I think I don't have a clear argument to support what I'll say next, but maybe rape was not that bad back then.
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:33 No.2805431
My entire opinion about rape changed when I learned that most sluts come during the act.
Fuck them for using a gratifying experience to play the victim card for eternity.

Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:44 No.2805455
I think acquaintance rape is worse, because it shows you were unable to judge that person's character well, and they are simply part of your personal life. If you get raped by a stranger I think it would be easier to try to "forget" about it during the day: if you go to the school where you met your rapist every day, or to the house he used to visit, you have a lot of reminders going on. Plus the reaction from others - it's easier to hate a stranger than a family friend or someone from your social circle. You'll have to deal with people not believing you or still hanging out with them, that's just going to happen.
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:49 No.2805466
>>2805455
I agree.

It is entirely a woman's own fault if she is raped by an acquaintance. Rather less her fault if it's a stranger... But possibly more exciting for her too?

So swings and roundabouts...

>>2805539
>apponent

Typical female intelligence.

>>2805848

>harping on a typographical error instead of offering a counter-argument

It's like I'm talking to G.K. Chesterton himself!

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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:24 No.2805415 [Reply] [Quick Reply]
Just finished reading this and oh my lord, WHAT A TWIST.

Anything else by Iain Banks I should read?
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)10:43 No.2805449
I loved that book too. The end was marvelous.

If you have not yet read The Bridge, read that one next. It's very well done and quite surreal, but without going overboard.

I can honestly suggest his science fiction stuff, too, which he publishes under Iain M Banks. They take place in a well thought out society called The Culture. It's not your typical cheesey sci-fi, but more political fiction set in the future: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)11:04 No.2805511
>>2805449
Is that one of his science fiction ones?
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Anonymous 07/13/12(Fri)13:59 No.2805851
>>2805511

The Bridge? No, it's set on a giant railroad bridge that is apparently hundreds of miles long, with a city of sorts built on it. It's a bit weird to describe it.

I'm very glad that none of your opinions have relevance in the real worlds. Just saying.

>>2805431
>yfw you realize men can have prostate orgasms from rape

or are they sluts for this as well?

If you were raped, you were simply raped. What have they taken from your will? simply move on.

>ITT adult children with no understanding of other people

I'm just going to leave this here.
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Almost_Rape

Wait, so some of the people in this thread believe rape is worse than murder? I feel that is the attitude society has towards rape. I remember some generic thriller movie where the main character says that the only thing worse than murder is rape.

don't ever let me see you in the streets litmod

>>2805375
I think it's like getting pissed on,
the damage is minimal but you lose all dignity

>>2805918
Cool story.

Why the fuck am I still reading this shit?

On the topic of literature: Brief Interviews with Hideous Men touches on the point you're vaguely attempting to point out, OP.

Would you like to be raped? Didn't think so. On another note rape has the added element of physical and mental torture which isn't always the case with murder. Severe cases of rape can fuck a victim up for life if they can't escape the trauma. It's all fine and well saying "hurr durr get over it" when you haven't been raped but let's get real for a second and see that for many people they never learn to live "normal" lives after the act.

>>2806000
>Would you like to be raped?
Makes no difference to me.

>On another note rape has the added element of physical and mental torture.
Something can only mentally affect you to the extent you allow it.

>>2806010
Allowance != attitude towards it.

Most of the pseudo-philosophy you see around this board is because you fuckers do not know how to ask the right questions and to call everything by their right names.

>>2805942

This thread has honestly revealed /lit/ to contain a fair amount of mentally handicapped, bitter teenagers. This discussion has reached retarded tresholds, most of the posts are *seriously* as pathetic and sad as the things what people write on facebook or on specific teenagercancer social forums.


Enjoy being embarrassed by your own retarded thoughts after you grow up.

>>2805630
I don't see how rape could be construed as anything but a social construct. Consent doesn't exist in any meaningful way.

I'm a guy and have never been in any kind of situation like this, but I have to say that if someone raped my girlfriend or sister or mother or a friend, I'd have a hard time shrugging my shoulders and saying well, she's just scared and bruised and has a bunch of internal abrasions and maybe an STD or an unwanted pregnancy, but just bootstrap your way out of it, bitch, you'll most likely be healed up in a few weeks.

sage

>>2806049

In this fashion one might say murder doesn't exist in a meaningful way, as it is a social construction on top of unnatural death.

>>2806091
There are just so many false implications here that I don't even see how it's worth trying to put them into words.

>>2805375
Stop spamming boards pl0x

the only thing people completely and totally own (without societal enforcement) is their body. society tries to intrude and direct it (heteronormativity, for example, making sure penises go into vaginas) but for the most part your body is your sole true responsibility.

so what happens when someone else tries to take that from you, one of the very first things you realize about yourself, that your body is your own?

someone entering by force is a total violation of that kind of visceral ownership. of course it is traumatic. of course it is going to be mentally as well as physically painful. once you think your body is now going to be someone else's, for the bit until the rape is over, you lose even your own sense of existence. it is enslavement and domination. a lack of control.

you are deluded, OP.

>>2806096

The best part about this nothing response is how it evaluates implications, not conclusions.

If rape is a social construct to sex, then murder is a social construct to death. Murder is obviously not a natural distinction. I don't see the problem with that analogy.

That the implications are problematic to you means the argument is problematic. The primary implication being, of course, that social constructs are important and meaningful.

>>2806112
The same could be said of a gunshot or a knife wound. The same could be said of someone who holds you down on the ground in a grapple. The same could be said of someone who takes you by the head and kisses you on the cheek without consent.

>>2806128

is this some devil's advocate shit or are you an actual robot

>>2806128
>implying kisses are equal to gunshot wounds and rape

oh you

>>2806133
>>2806136
what about
>total violation of that kind of visceral ownership
don't you understand?

>>2806143

understood your argument just curious whatup with the black hole you have in place of where a normal person has empathy

>>2806145
Where's your empathy for the gun and knife victims, huh? They're just as much violations as rape, if not more, since they can cause irreparable physical damage. The kissing example was just a mockery of the "to violate the body is to violate the soul!" bullshit that guy was spewing.

>>2806147

you can think two things are terrible

equating either to a kiss on the cheek is for scrubs

>>2806091
Murder can quantified, though. You are physically ending the process of life. Consent is just some airy concept.

>>2806156

attn stem majors: this is why everyone in other departments thinks you're creepy

Holy shit, this thread is full of aspies. Go back to /r9k/.

>>2806112

sry bra your body is never your own

science proved and will continue to prove that shit a long time ago and for a long time after ur ded

wtf does "ownership" mean anyway? conscious control? awareness that your body exists? define that shit. btw this has nothing to do with the rape thing that's just a fucking stupid idea you're spewing. every faggot on /lit/ (including myself) is inclined to do that occasionally.

we all just gotta g check each other homie and keep it movin'.

>>2806155
In Denver (for example):

>Third Degree Assault: Possible 2 Years
>Second Degree Assault: Mandatory 5 Years, Maximum 8 Years
>First Degree Assault: Mandatory 10 Years, Maximum 16 Years

http://www.denvercriminalattorney.com/criminal_charges/assault.html

Meanwhile sexual assault (rape):
>Only sex offenses carry "Indeterminate" sentences, which in reality means life in prison. Once an indeterminate sentence has been given, the Department of Corrections, not a judge, will decide if the Defendant ever gets released. Likewise, there is lifetime probation, in which failure can result in a life prison sentence.

http://www.denvercriminalattorney.com/criminal_charges/sexual_assault.html

Yeah, rape and assault ARE TOTALLY EQUAL UH HUH SURE

>>2806136
Well, if you are going to argue from the standpoint that the body is the thing violated during a rape, then it makes sense to put all non-consensual handling of the body on the same line. Kissing, wrestling, assault, etc.

Your kiss is culturally validated, but it is still a violation of the only thing I have, which is my body.

>>2806147

when you are shot with a gun, it's purpose is to harm you and possibly kill you

when you are raped, you feel pain but also pleasure, or at least what your body registers as pleasure, and cognitive dissonance occurs. the act of rape is also prolonged, whereas a bullet may remain in your body, but the penetration is only a fraction of a second -- your body still remains in control.

i don't believe in souls, but i do believe that the body is inviolable.

>>2806165

>it makes sense

only if you want to disregard completely the personal experience of the person raped, which, again, is a really creepy position to take

>>2806165

those are all different actions with different purposes in mind.

rape specifically violates the body in a pleasure center, where as other forms of manhandling might do so as well, but never to the extent of rape

>>2806166
On the scale of inviolable-ness (for the case of ranking evil deeds culturally and by law) which is worst? Rape, murder, or assault?

In reality, rape seems to be equal to murder as a cultural taboo, while assault is far below. I argue murder should be considered the worst, followed by serious assault, followed by rape, followed by minor assault.

It's not that simple, OP.
Naturally, after rape comes pregnancy. Females are instinctually afraid of rape, because a rapist will not care for progeny, and nobody would care for someone else's progeny. When instincts were forming, a raped female was doomed to become a single cave-mom, i.e. a dead cavelady come next winter.

NOW, A PERSONAL ANECDOTE.
But, hilariously enough, I remember a dream I once had where I was female, and not in a fetishized or transgendered way, but a 100% woman from birth and I didn't remember being male at all or that it was a dream. In that dream, I was chased by several young men for vague reasons, and I was intensely afraid of rape. I was running like crazy, and it was a very primal and deep-seated fear. There was nothing sexual about it, and it was nothing like being afraid of body damage or disgrace. It was most like being afraid or a potentially poisonous insect. It was not a wet dream, it was perfectly sexless. Through this weird instinctual accident, I think I actually know how a female feels about real-life rape - even aside of the anthropological talk. They feel absolutely, irrationally terrified. After getting raped, I understand a female is not sad, as may seem, but honest-to-god clinically depressed, because she failed to follow a very important instinct.

In a word, the fear is primal and indeed the opposite of being a social construct, as OP proposes. Female evolved to fear rape, because it ends in her being pregnant from a mate that won't provide for her, and it is much harder to find a mate when you are already pregnant. Anti-rape activists are fucking retarded, though, that much is true. It's like being an anti-stab-in-the-chest activist or an anti-kick-in-the-head activist. I.e., missing the forest behind the trees like a dumb fucking inbecile.

>>2806169
You should never craft law by the intent of a crime.

>>2806174
it's times like this when you've got to laugh at how /lit/ is so devoid of female input that we've got to resort to posts like these

>>2806178

why? rape has a sexual component that lacks in all other forms of assault. that specifically is an intention and differentiates it from the other forms of assault. why shouldn't it be it's own category, as it is so obviously made of components that are specific only to it?

>>2806188
Actually, I don't suppose a female would go into a thread like this. Not with an OP claiming that rape is nothing special.

For a rapist it really isn't, but for a rapee it is, if she is female.

What OP is actually angry about, and rightfully so, are anti-rape activists. Like all activists, they're annoying. Rape is still hard as fuck on the female, though. My anecdote serves a different purpose, though: I'm a male with a very feminine memory of fearing rape. I can actually relate. It's purely accidental, but here I am.

>>2806188
cosigning on this

>>2806167
>only if you want to disregard completely the personal experience of the person raped

What makes rape especially personal compared to a kiss? You are going to have to define your terms. What makes something personal? When is that line crossed, exactly?

>which, again, is a really creepy position to take

Should I base my opinion on logic or base it on whether or not I will be perceived as creepy?

>>2806178

I agree. Purchasing a gun and stalking some dude and putting two bullets in his brain should be the same crime as accidentally dropping a hammer while you're fixing your roof and having it hit and kill someone standing below. Who cares about intent?

>>2806196
>You are going to have to define your terms. What makes something personal? When is that line crossed, exactly?
Are you being like that on purpose?

It's crossing the line when she says "no". A kiss doesn't make you pregnant, so it isn't nearly as instinctually repugnant.

>>2806196
Are you seriously asking what the significant difference is between an unwanted kiss and non-consensual sexual intercourse?

Seriously?

>>2806192
Then when a leg gets chopped off that should be its own category too. Or when an assaulted person gets amnesia. Or when someone gets their penis bitten off. These also have unique, equally or even greater debilitating, lasting components.

>>2806169
>those are all different actions with different purposes in mind.

Every act ever has a different purpose in mind unless we speak in generalities.

>rape specifically violates the body in a pleasure center, where as other forms of manhandling might do so as well, but never to the extent of rape

So the argument isn't that it is a violation of the body. The argument is now that it is a violation of a pleasure center, and an especially considerable violation compared to other forms of bodily abuse.
That is a little more clear than the violation of body definition.

>>2806201
If you can't be bothered to put up a toe board, I would hope society would place you on some kind of boat filled with other idiots and set you adrift to wander the seas.

>>2806207
Why are you completely disregarding the point that fear of rape is a mechanism females evolved to have in order to escape unwanted pregnancies by inferior males?

Why?

>>2806202
>It's crossing the line when she says "no". A kiss doesn't make you pregnant, so it isn't nearly as instinctually repugnant.

Then your initial argument should have read "except that it disregards the risk of pregnancy specific to rape" or something to that effect, which is a much better point. Your "personal" argument was bollocks. And, yeah, defining terms is essential in most debate, even though it can be annoying.

>>2806204

Some day your "seriously?" argument is going to run dry you're going to have to learn how to make actual points.

>>2806206
this is why >intent matters

sexual assualt is different from regular assault because of the SEX part. you know, that biological process where you stick your penis into a woman's vagina to impregnate her. turns out people do that for to have deep intimate connections with others. what happens when a stranger does it without consent?

>>2806212

>toe board
>mattering at all to the situation at hand

This faggot ain't even ever been on a roof higher than his playhouse

>>2806222
>Your "personal" argument was bollocks.
I'm a different fucking poster. Mystery solved.

i wish everybody itt had to read their posts from this thread out loud to everyone they knew

>>2806213
>Why are you completely disregarding the point that fear of rape is a mechanism females evolved to have in order to escape unwanted pregnancies by inferior males?

Was that point made earlier or something? I only joined the thread at the end after being annoyed by clumsy or unclear arguments.

Anyway, I'm not ignoring that so much as I have no reason to believe that it's true. The "inferior males" part sounds like pure evolutionary psychology based on nothing empirical.

>>2806221
It's DIFFERENT. WE KNOW THAT. But is it WORSE? Some say yes, others say no, others say it's equal. That's what this is about. Anti-rape activists would happily put it on par with murder, while others would have it as the most minor of violations.

>>2806224
>Thinks being really high up means you don't use a toeboard

>>2806231
fuck off back to reddit, 99%

>>2806231
I read many of them out loud myself, and actually laughed at how ridiculous the stuff I was saying was.

I would be beaten up for saying some of the shit in this thread.

>>2806234
and both of those positions are wrong, but one of them is a whole lot closer to the truth and a whole lot less idiotic and dumb

>>2806234

>while others would have it as the most minor of violations

creepy people who everybody tries to sit as far away from as possible on the subway, sure

people who aren't gross and creepy? not really

>>2806233
>based on nothing empirical
It is a fact that females are intensely afraid of rape and often experience intense clinical depression post-rape. All else is just conjecture on the reasons for that.

Rape is very hard on the females, that much is an established fact.

>>2806231
It's unfortunate that you think shaming people into believing something is the way to go about things.

Why not use logic and reason instead?

>>2806249

if your argument is that logical adn rational you shouldn't have a problem with your friends and coworkers knowing you feel that way

What is everyone's thoughts on rape as a weapon in war?

>>2806248

I don't doubt that, but that's different from saying that the fear evolved from not wanting to fuck ancient betas.

>>2806247
And old conservatives like Ken Clarke.

So people like OP's dad and/or uncle.

>>2806243
>everyone is stupid except fo' me

you must live the saddest life

>>2806256
Actually, you could make a very logical and rational argument and feel bad for saying it out loud. Here are a few examples:
"You have liver cancer, therefore your life expectancy is under a year."
"Your girlfriend preferred another man, therefore, in her eyes, you are an inferior mate."
Etc..

>>2806257
STDs would be a countermeasure.

>>2806259
>I don't doubt that, but that's different from saying that the fear evolved from not wanting to fuck ancient betas.
Which is nonetheless a very logical theory that explains a lot and doesn't conflict with any of the anthropological evidence.

>>2806265
Those are conclusions, not arguments.

>>2806256

if your saving the Jews from the Holocaust is that merciful and just, you shouldn't have a problem with the S.S. knowing you feel that way

>>2806262

whole mess of weird uncles itt

>>2806265

right and that's why people who aren't loathsome temper their logic with empathy

>>2806256
But that argument assumes that friends and co-workers and all people of the world ground their public opinions in logic and reason, which I don't think is true.

In fact there are a number of famous studies about the influence of peer pressure and group thinking on an individual's perception of the truth or willingness to express that truth. See the Asch Conformity Experiment.

>>2806270
Arguments, followed by a conclusion. Your point?

>>2806238

>whether or not you're using a toeboard
>relevant at all to dropping a hammer off the side of the roof

Maybe if you crawl around like a pussy

>>2806273
Stop writing like a teenage girl.

>>2806276
Are you using the hammer on something above the roof? Is that an imaginary wall you're hammering?

>>2806276
ITT: roofers

>>2806277

stop writing like a rape apologist

>>2806285
That's my first post in the thread little girl.

>>2806285
He isn't pro-rape, he is anti-anti-rape.

>>2806286

oh

my apologies for not capitalizing stuff in my 4chan posts then

>>2806281

No seriously have you never stood up and moved to another place? Do you pencil roll your way around? This is a very simple situation I don't understand why you are having trouble, just pretend you just climbed up a ladder and took it out of your belt if it makes it easier for you to imagine yourself standing with something in your hand on a roof

>>2805375
>rape
I have a cock
I have desires
I don't give a fuck what society thinks.
I will use this world to maximize my utility and pleasure regardless of the consequential effect on others.
I am not burdened with guilt for the pain of others
I am free to do whatever I want.


You are free to lock me in a cage or execute me if you don't like it.

>>2806289
That's only one reason I'm not taking you seriously.

>>2806291
If I drop it, it hits the toe board, whether I'm standing up or not. I can only imagine you're standing up and throwing it.

>>2805553

>mfw women would rather have their rights violated than die fighting for them

We might want to rethink women's suffrage as a whole my fellow americunts, they obviously can't handle the responsibility.

>>2806302
>We might want to rethink women's suffrage as a whole my fellow americunts, they obviously can't handle the responsibility.
Stupid bitches. I say, spread 'em and fuck 'em like they deserve. Amirite boys?

>>2806302
>We might want to rethink women's suffrage as a whole my fellow americunts, they obviously can't handle the responsibility.
Too late for that. Jews and women control the country now.

If 4chan really think women are such lesser beings, then why not just treat them the same way you treat animals...ie with love and care. Pet them, continue not to fuck them, admire their beauty.

You wouldn't rape a cat. And you'd beat up anyone that did. Apply the same logic to women.

>>2806302
>>2806304
>We might want to rethink women's suffrage
>We might want to rethink women's suffrage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPcthZL2RE

>>2806156
How can murder be quantified in a way consent and rape aren't?

Murder isn't a natural distinction. Death is. Dying is the ending of life. Murdering is just an airy concept and has no meaningful existence.

Sex is a natural thing. Rape and consent are just airy concepts and have no meaningful existence outside society.

At least according to this retarded argument, which assumes society isn't meaningful.

>>2806310
>If 4chan really think women are such lesser beings, then why not just treat them the same way you treat animals

mmmmmmmmm

archive?

>>2806320
Every thread is already auto-archived already.

>>2806310
The problem is that cats fulfill the potential of being a cat. Women are failed human beings.

>>2806310
cats can be declawed. If a woman claws you, she'll just accuse you of sexual assault afterwards.

>>2806299

It's pretty simple. Perhaps if you looked at a picture or something.

>>2806314

but society isn't meaningful, and social distinctions are meaningless. the only meaningful things are existence, natural selection and the will to power.

>>2806322
>he can't even into humanism

>>2806355

>implying he should

unless you're an erasmusfag and you mean the good kind of humanism

>>2806346
Perhaps if you stopped throwing your tools around you'd understand.

>>2806382
id est, humanitas. I haven't read much Erasmus but I've been reading P-Classic's selected works of Cicero, which in the introduction states
>...those who associate classical studies with the now suspect élite culture culture of the nineteenth century are inclined to misinterpret the practical, moral stimulus of his humanitas as the mere social elegance of an effete ruling clique, and so to underestimate the authentic belief in human brotherhood from which his hatred of men like Verres and Antony stemmed.
>...religious people ... misconceive (as the Renaissance did not) his humanism as the atheism for which this word popularly stands.

The ending is the most important point in this case, as a tl;dr. It's unfortunate that such a practical philosophy has come to represent petty atheism so many white people find to be the Dawk's bollocks.

[spolors]SAGE FOR BEAN A FAGGIT[/spolors]

>>2806164
Ryan is that you? Its Kevin.

>>2807202
Hi kevin. It's Ryan.

i'll just leave this here

>>2807202
>>2807207
Kevin and Ryan, it is me, Thomas.

>>2807230
Hey Kevin, Ryan, and Thomas. It's me, John.

If you want to talk rape and misogyny, just go to /r9k/!

:]

>>2807207
>>2807230
>>2807243
Can you stop that please the way he typed looked like a friend i know from a chat site that frequents 4chan but its clear to me that you are not him.

pretty sure everybody itt is named chad

>>2807251
Kevin, don't be rude please D:

>>2807275
>implying he calls me by kevin all the time and doesn't use my nickname

Also i am sexually deprived so i don't see anything wrong from rape, i would coerce my own cousin or force myself on her into sex because i have a bunch of pent up sexual frustration i would feel bad as fuck afterwards though.

This is why i believe that sex ruins everything i would just chemically castrate myself to keep my desires(everything sexual relationships fuck with everything and its a FACT that it will not last you will lose or she will lose interest eventually) dormant, no desires no relationship problems.

>>2807249
:]

>>2807249
Yes, because here we are more mature and love women like the human beings they are.

This thread makes me think of a confused Qing Chinaman wondering out loud to his associates whether getting your side lock cut off is really that big of a deal, since the physical trauma is minor compared to much more serious assaults that are generally considered less important, and so it must then be a cultural thing, which can be mitigated. Maybe if we didn't focus so intently on weeping over and lamenting the loss of some guy's side lock, the next generation of side lock wearers wouldn't be so terrified of the prospect, and a lot fewer would be so traumatized or even commit suicide over it.

And then everyone shits on him and calls him a monster. My brother lost his side lock, you insensitive fuck!

>>2807345
Is this Kobylkafish?

>>2807414
By any chance, was your post influenced at all by a post in another thread about a gentle giant petting a little lamb and saying "it's nice"?

>>2807360
We even accept niggers and retards, which makes us the shithole of 4chan