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I fail to understand why this record-pounding paperback has come in for extra-special derision all over the world, other than the fact that some people are appalled at the idea that somewhere out there, well over ten million women might be – whisper it – masturbating.

“But it’s badly written!”, I hear you cry. Um, hello? It’s PORN. Whilst there is some pornography out there written with a deft stylistic hand – from Anais Nin and Henry Miller to Anne Rice’s luscious, filthy Sleeping Beauty series – that’s hardly the point, even if you don’t buy Oglaf author Trudy Cooper’s adage that “erotica just means porn that works for me.” A dildo painted with an intricate lubricant-insoluble motif may look delightful, but a plain old rubber shocker gets the job done just as well. This book is porn. It is for wanking to. Pornography made for men is rarely judged on its artistic merits – the average 20-minute RedTube clip has hundreds of thousands of views and practically nobody leaves comments complaining that the lighting is garish, that the pounding cheese music is weird and unsettling, or that there’s someone’s Bassett hound running about in the background.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/culture/2012/07/defence-fifty-shades-grey#1

>> No.2794021

The more you talk about it, the more successful it becomes.

Seriously, I don't even know what this is about for real and I don't really want to know.

Save your time for what is worth to you, don't waste it on trying to understand those things, because regardless of what is written and how good or bad it is, the success of those books is based on marketing and research.

Paulo Coelho is famous, Avatar is the greatest film ever, /b/ is the most crowded board. Big whoop.

>> No.2794023

This is what I got out of it.

>Blah blahblahBLAH blah blah blah OGLAF blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah.

>> No.2794024
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>>2794011
>Pop culture and radical politics with a feminist twist

>> No.2794029
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>>2794011
I just hope that it can function as a gateway to the Marquis de Sade. But any work about women learning the merits of being tied up and used is something that improves the world.

>> No.2794036

What puzzles me is why some people choose to read it in public, and make silly Facebook statuses like "an evening in with a glass of wine and Mr. Grey ;)))))", etc.? I mean, it's fine that you're reading shitty porno, but please keep it to yourself. I don't watch big dick shemale porn on my iPhone on the bus to work, and if I did no one would be okay with it. Why would you even want wet knickers or an erection on public transport?

>> No.2794084

>>2794011

Because is passes itself off as legitimate literature, when it's just garbage.

No one would really give a shit if it was just another Fabio covered boddice-ripper, sitting on a dime store shelf.

And the point IS that it's bad written, you idiot. Erotic literature doesn't get a free pass to be absolute shit just because people are masturbating to it, especially if it still wants to be called literature. I would say that's what pisses people off more, how indescriminately tasteless people have become in regards to the books that they read and what constitutes as a Bestseller. People think that automatically means the book must good, so they perpetuate the cycle. It's just another reminder that the whole book selling industry is bullshit and it's practicaes devalue literature, as a whole, when they pass shit like this off as the next big thing.

>> No.2794090

>>2794084
Who's calling it literature? Or even high-brow? Everyone knows it's smut.

>> No.2794113

>>2794084
>>2794090
Neither of you know what literature means.

>> No.2794115

>>2794090

No one calls it high-brow. I never said they did. But people are saying it's good, that it's a wonderful portrayal of the darker side of sexuality. Both of those statements are insanely false. It's unfortunate and aggravating that people don't know any better.

>> No.2794116

>>2794090
I've encountered several Fifty Shades of Grey readers who'd previously not read a book in their lives (bar maybe Harry Potter or Twilight) trying to act all uppity and sophisticated because they've finally cracked open a book. Here's a tip: whenever it crops up in conversation that some is reading this trash, reply "Ew" or "Isn't that porn?" or something to that effect and hilarity will ensue.

>> No.2794127

>>2794113

And I'm sure you do. You'll most likely give us some pointlessly factual, dictionary defintion, which means absolutely nothing when it comes to separating the wheat from the chaff. So just save your time and get the fuck out of this thread.

>> No.2794133

>>2794127
Separating the wheat from the chaff does not mean redefining a word for no good reason to your own purpose, simply because of the emotive connotations of that word. >lrn2tinkbruv
Captcha: ailarity decease

>> No.2794151

>>2794133

But that's the whole point. It's colloquial and provides for an adequate, understandable distinction of quality. Definition was never nor should it be a factor.

>> No.2794230

My girlfriend is reading it an talked me into reading it too. She says that it's the best book she has ever read and I'm only reading it because I love her and I want to share her intrests. I'm two chapters in and there is no sex yet. The prose isn't as bad as I was expecting, it's better than The Hunger Games. I can understand why people who have only read things like Harry Potter or Twilight (i.e. my girlfriend) would think it's amazing. The only problem is that there is 550 pages of this shit. I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it all of the way through.

>> No.2794243

>>2794230
dude you're gonna get to start tying her up if you aren't already

>> No.2794248

>>2794243
But then she gets to tie you up because lel feminism.

>> No.2794262

>>2794243
She's already told me that she doesn't like to be tied up. She does like it when I pull her hair and call her a slut while I violently pund her from behind but I rarely do that. I'm not that kind of person and I feel uncomfortable doing it.

>> No.2794272

>>2794262
she'll eventually cheat on you if you refuse to fuck her how she wants. just a heads up.

>> No.2794280

>>2794272
I've already cheated on her. If she cheats on me I'll just stop sleeping with her. It's not a big deal.

>> No.2794406

>>2794248

You guys need to date better.

>> No.2794416

>>2794272
Only a bitch does that.

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That grody feel when I see my mom reading that.