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Are there any hip-hop/rap artists who've written lyrics with real literary value?

>> No.2733335
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2733335

Nope.

>> No.2733340

Die Antwoord

>> No.2733343

I'd say yes.

Witness being the first that comes to mind.

Unsung is another good one.

>> No.2733341

De La Soul is pretty good.
Dr Dre too.

>> No.2733346

I honestly think Biggie Smalls made some amazing shit.

Gimmie the Loot is an amazing look at the life style of the desperate poor.

>> No.2733348

Eazy-ZE
Dogg-Dizzle
Busta P
Lil Bigshorts
Schmoo D

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>>2733328

>Hip-Hop

Nope

>Rap

Oh god yes, where have you been since the mid-70s?

>> No.2733353

I like the weeknd, but I don't think he has REAL literary value.

>> No.2733359

Dalek.

>I swallow razor blades to keep my vocal cords sharpened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXgM9T4mFbQ

>> No.2733366

serious question?
http://www.last.fm/user/stubz82

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the entire album.

>> No.2733370

>>2733352
the fuck are you even trying to say?
are you not aware that rap is one of the five elements of hip hop?

>> No.2733380

The Message - Grandmaster Flash

one of the best!

>> No.2733390

>>2733352

Rap is a method of lyrical delivery. Hip-hop is the actual genre that prominently features rap.

>> No.2733395

>>2733343

Can get the artists of those songs?

>> No.2733409

>>2733346
seconding this motherfucker right here

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>>2733380

>> No.2733490
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MF DOOM
Cage
Aesop Rock
KRS One
Del the funky homosapien
Deltron 3030

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>crtl+F
>kanye west
>0 results found

Dafuq /lit/?

>> No.2733531

>>2733490
I second MF DOOM

>> No.2733533

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>> No.2733543

Sage Francis
Aesop Rock
Astronautalis
Eyedea

>> No.2733547

mr. lif
dr. octagon
johnny polygon
abstract rude
people under the stairs
immortal technique

>> No.2733554

>>2733490

del del always del

mos def sometimes.

saul williams.

little brother

pharcyde

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>>2733533

>> No.2733591

>>2733533
>>2733543
prominent leg muscle on exhibition at the carnival right

>> No.2733604

In honor of the situation
I'll offend a whole damn nation
With my over-aggressive pronunciation
Next for the captoe and I'll big throw
Where others tip toe
Off to flagrant
Above the head fast yogi off to bed

>> No.2733623

The Flobots?

>> No.2733626

>>2733623
I can ride my bike with no handlebars, no handlebars, no handlebars? for fuck's sake.

>> No.2733632

You know the flobots do have other songs >.>

>> No.2733633

UH YEAH.

IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES

>> No.2733635

x

>> No.2733648

Cannibal Ox

>> No.2733650
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>>2733633
there are some serious good poetic prose on that album though read the lyrics, it's so cold

>> No.2733651

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufqHWTwerbU

Jak Progresso

>> No.2733654

>>2733490
MF Doom for sure.

And the Wu? Why has nobody mentioned the greatness of the gospel of the Wu?!

Also, Mad Conductor. The 'Members Only' EP's title track's chorus line is from Vonnegut's 'Cat's Cradle'.../watch?v=49klV8LYJV4. All their shit is awesome and most of it played live.

>> No.2733663

Most hip hop that isn't endorsed by white record execs has meaning for young latin/black people it is a means of speaking out about the hardships of oppression the people who rap about carrying guns and killing are fakes who are only out to make money. Op you are probably to steeped in racism to see the meaning behind many of the lyrics.

>> No.2733665

>>2733490
Del tha Funkee Homo Sapien IS Deltron 3030, you twit.

I'd also add Kool Keith to that list.

>> No.2733664

Illogic

http://lyrics.wikia.com/Illogic:1,000_Whispers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOjKVhPNCMo

>> No.2733668

>>2733664
He's got a new EP out with Blockhead doing the beats. It's pretty tight shit. You can download it for free off their website.

>> No.2733677

Milo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVLMFXbBdZY

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>> No.2733686

Solillaquists of Sound

http://www.solilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=128%3A13-heroes&cati
d=42%3Ano-more-heroes&Itemid=63

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im8lH9Ziqq4

>> No.2733690

Eyedea

http://lyrics.wikia.com/Eyedea:On_This_I_Stand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4wfqEIrZqM

>> No.2733700

Aesop rock

http://lyrics.wikia.com/Aesop_Rock:Big_Bang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtsVpMJLotI

>> No.2733705

Bus Driver

http://lyrics.wikia.com/Busdriver:Along_Came_A_Biter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swe478BwZRg

>> No.2733729

WHY?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8cl0NdCtze4

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>> No.2733744

Pedestrian maybe? I don't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmXARtkDqMQ

>> No.2733748

>>2733736

oh cool i love taylor the creation

>> No.2733747

DRTYUNCL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zIJpUe8lNw

>> No.2733758

Ras Kass

http://lyrics.wikia.com/Ras_Kass:Nature_Of_The_Threat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdJgVf4l1A0

>> No.2733763

Binary_Star

http://lyrics.wikia.com/Binary_Star:Reality_Check

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnD_CXnXEB8

>> No.2733769

Akala
Immortal Technique
LowKey

Definitely check Akala out, he's one of the most sensible and intelligent rappers I've ever listened to.

>> No.2733783

Scroobius Pip. Motherfucker is genius. He's also hilarious

>> No.2733794

You youngsters will never learn.

Rap singers haven't created anything even close to having any literary value.

Same goes for Leonard Cohen/Nick Drake/Bob Dylan, etc...

Grow the fuck up and see the world and human condition as it is and has been through history.

Popular music is for entertainment, just like playing a board/video game. When plebs try to claim that their hobbies are 'art,' it is only to make themselves feel better. Similar to how we've began celebrating people who cook food as 'artists.'

GROW UP, YOUNG FRIENDS!

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>>2733783

I was just going to say this - Scroobius Pip is basically a poet who sometimes has a musician with him. His latest stuff is pretty much all spoken word, no music.

>> No.2733802

>>2733794
>He thinks that playing the part of an old cynic and speaking dogmatically will make him sound intelligent
>laughinghomies.jpg

>> No.2733805

>>2733794
Art is art, in theory rolling around in spaghetti-o's is art to. It is stupid to say music isn't art, same with video games, or movies, or tv. Some just isn't good, and most of the time it isn't. With rap and hip-hop, most of the time you listen for enjoyment. I have never really heard a rap artist have lyrics that really stuck out as meaningful. But that does not mean that there isn't someone out there that has meaningful lyrics.

>> No.2733807

>>2733797
>>2733783
>>2733797
>>2733783

Letter from God to Man is one of my favorite raps. I'd argue that it's poetry.

>> No.2733821

Nas's Queens Get The Money: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IoWX6i_7ZU

Jedi Mind Tricks
Mos Def
Talib Kweli

Aside from a handful already mentioned, that's my two cents.

>> No.2733834

best thread on /lit/ for a long time.

>> No.2733852

>>2733648

This.

And where the hell is Rakim in this thread?

>> No.2734075

blackstar - respiration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeTnog5RRQo

>> No.2734083

>>2733328
hip hop has helped me understand the experiences of a large majority of the individuals living in modern american cities better than any book i have read. i consider that literary value

>> No.2734103

I feel that great rap comes from the quality of wordplay and flow of the artist rather than the literary values of the words; as wordplay and rhythmic flow are the unique attributes to rap as an artform.

That said my favorite 'writer' is Jay Electronica.

>> No.2734115

>>2734075

Beautiful song. I would agree it has literary value. Here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqstOeYRqvg

Organized Konfusion up in this bitch!

>> No.2734119

>>2734075

Beautiful song. I would agree it has literary value. Here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqstOeYRqvg

Organized Konfusion

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I hear the Wu Tang Clan is going to be coming out with something great and science-y soon.

>> No.2734150

>>2733543
lots of good suggestions in this thread, /lit/ never let me down, was 'bout to suggest Astronautalis

>> No.2734156

QWEL (typical cats)
Sage Francis
MF DOOM
Aesop Rock

somewhat cliche- sorry.

>> No.2734160

Yeah, man. Gza's writing a physics-themed album and he's rapping with real physicists as research. Dedication to the game right there.

>> No.2734214

Asheru

he wrote the song used in the boondocks intro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDWEcFqILoo

the lyrics are kind of perfect if you ask me. and that's not something I say lightly.

>> No.2734492

honestly, eminem is great

>> No.2734512

>>2733521
Kanye West cannot write lyrics. Musically he's pretty interesting though.

>> No.2734539

Ghostpoet
Murs (sometimes)

>> No.2734547

Yep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A7tLVIsuNw

>> No.2734549

>>2733521
Kanye can't rap his way out of a fucking paper bag.

>> No.2734552

>>2734512

>Musically he's pretty interesting though.

Agreed, definitely. One of my dad's good friends produced Late Registration, he's a fucking genius, a madman. Kanye's not much of a talent himself, though.

>> No.2734864

Bamp

>> No.2734877

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu-0619LfyY


I don't even like hip hop / rap, but these guys are exception.

>> No.2734919

>>2734512

i really like my beautiful dark twisted fantasy, but the lyrics and themes are pure histrionic bullshit. great album though.

>> No.2734921 [DELETED] 

Right Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fxUvbHzoo

>> No.2734927

>>2733797

what scroobius pip album should i download?

>> No.2734930

Cage
Why?
Tyler the Creator

>> No.2734938

I like Little Wayne and Fifty Cent.

>> No.2734940

IAM, if you understand french.
Fucking poets man.

>> No.2734947

>>2734940
omelette du fromage

>> No.2734955

IAM ( that is some serious rap ight there)
Eminem ( those iambic pentameters, internal rhymes, Alliteration)
NAS (I find his songs to create strong mental images)

>> No.2734958

Masterpiece incoming :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4zy2MflNRY

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>>2734955
me gain, propose evidence:

>IAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQCdppMiDKc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9fpeCYfCLI
"De par le globe ma verbalistique flotte dans l'ère du temps, réfléchir avant d'écrire: le principal élément"

>WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxkpsOSHaac

>M&M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWYopag1hSU
(heartbreaking)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkKuj_FwFg0
"Raw dawg, get your arm gnawed off
Drop the sawed off and beat you wit the piece it was sawed off of"

>NAS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

>> No.2734982

The ROOTS
To catch a thief, who stole the soul I prayed to keep
Insomniac, bad dreams got me losing sleep
I’m dead tired, my mind playing tricks, deceit
A face in the glass, unable to admit defeat
All that I am, all that I was is history
The past unraveled, adding insult to this injury
I’m fighting the battle for the soul of the century
Destiny is everything that I pretend to be
Look, and what I did came back to me eventually
The music played on, and told me I was meant to be awake
It’s unresolved like everything I had at stake
Illegal activity controls my black symphony
Orchestrated like it happened incidentally
Oh, there I go, from a man to a memory
Damn, I wonder if my fam will remember me