/lit/ - Literature

More Grimshaw.

I love me some Leon Golub

Duchamp.

2deep4u.

Rublev

Name is in the file name.

It's a pretty popular painting, yet still great.

>>2630098
Dadaism isn't relevant to the 21st century. It's everywhere now.

>>2630113

although that resolution really doesn't do it justice.

If anyone could help me with this one, I'd be grateful.

Check out the first painting used as a backdrop for this youtube video (the child with the umbrella).

Who is it done by, and what is it called (I'd love to hang that painting in my place).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xe2Rft62Kg

I'm a plebeian.

Bosch, Hieronymus

>>2630139
Love that.

Also this.

Rembrandt

las meninas

>>2630161
Yuck, aristocratic fat hog bitch. I honestly don't know what those artists were thinking when they had the "greek" ideal of beauty for a man and "aristocratic fat hog bitch" ideal of beauty for a woman.

It doesn't make sense.

Pic related, it's what a near perfect woman looks like.

>>2630188

Times and tastes change. Back then dat ass was fat. Today, not so much. It's not about that, it's about Rembrandt and his magic.

>>2630170
love this one because I am the king.

On the Hills
Nesterov, Mikhail

>>2630196
It may have been for painters, but you certainly can't say it was for the whole of Europe (and all it's classes), or the world. Peasant women were most certainly probably nothing like that.

I find that flabby body type instinctually cringe worthy.

There probably exists extensive research on this.

>>2630212
Peasant women were not like that because they couldn't afford to be. Being fat was a symbol of wealth back in the day.

>>2630188
First off, that woman isn't even remotely fat. She weighs maybe 60 kilo, 65 tops. Also chubby is way more fun to draw and paint. And if I could, I would punch you in the neck. With a crab hammer.

Second, earlier, chubby meant that you had enough money to eat in excess, which was a luxury few could afford.

>>2630206
Wow.....Incredible.

>>2630212

I'm telling you, man, back before television and culture addiction we weren't wired to want the kind of females we do now. Dat ass was fat all over Europe, I'm pretty sure

>>2630223
Citation needed nigger.

Sanssouci Palace
Blechen, Karl

>>2630225

"Historically, according to Devendra Singh,[30] there was a trend for slightly larger women in the 17th and 18th centuries, as typified by the paintings of Rubens, but that in general there has been a preference for a slimmer waist in Western culture."

I guess we're both right.

Hannibal's Army Crossing the Alps
Turner, J.M.W.

>>2630232
Nice try wiki scholar, but you forgot to include the quote that says I'm right:

"He notes that "The finding that the writers describe a small waist as beautiful suggests instead that this body part – a known marker of health and fertility – is a core feature of feminine beauty that transcends ethnic differences and cultures."[26]"

This means that I'm right.

>>2630218
>First off, that woman isn't even remotely fat.

Whatever makes you feel better, land whale.

>nd if I could, I would punch you in the neck. With a crab hammer.


Fine, but don't strain yourself. You fatties tire out quick.

I bet you're eating right now while you read this. Disgusting. We should execute all of your kind.

>>2630258
>We should execute all of your kind.

>>2630252

define 'small waist', please. I think either of our photos could fit the bill in the eyes of some.

>>2630258
>>>/fit/

I don't give a fuck about your ideals, or the others. It's a nice painting, and you went and posted soft-core nudes. Fuck off and out.

>>2630262
Bro, fat chicks are gross. They will always be gross. I don't understand why painters wanted to draw fatties all the time, but they did. It doesn't mean however, that female beauty is entirely subjective. I think it's based more on genetics than anything.

And don't you dare bring in that stupid Pre-history stuff about "fertility" symbols of big fat women. Big fat women with gigantic tits and huge fat reserves were valuable to hunter-gathers because they provided milk for the offspring (milk-maids), thus guaranteeing a strong and healthy tribe: thus they worship them. Most women would not have been like that.

So...yeah. Pic related, characteristics of perfection (in my eyes anyway). Also, remember, I said genetic, that means different races have different genetically programmed ideals of bodily perfection.

>>2630283

> it's based more on genetics than anything.
>were valuable to hunter-gathers because they provided milk for the offspring

You're implying our gene structures have changed dramatically in the past 10,000 years or so.

>Most women would not have been like that.

You just proved my point. They would have been valued all the more. Most women aren't the current 'ideal' either.

>>2630285
Bro, do you know what the fuck "artificial selection" means?

In 10,000 years we went from domesticating wolves, to having a Chihuahuas and Great Danes. Can you believe that shit? It's true.

I'm obviously talking to someone who isn't on my level, hit the biology textbooks kiddo.

>>2630293
Wow.

>>2630258
>I bet you're eating right now while you read this.

You're right, and it's deliscious. Your mother says hi, by the way.

>>2630283
>And don't you dare bring in that stupid Pre-history stuff about "fertility" symbols of big fat women. Big fat women with gigantic tits and huge fat reserves were valuable to hunter-gathers because they provided milk for the offspring (milk-maids)

hahahaha

>>2630301
Well actually he's got a decent case there.

>>2630293

lrn2evolution. 10,000 years is a microsecond.

>>2630315
Big talk from a fat schlemiel.

>>2630324

Just facts and stuff.

>>2630324

A schlemiel with a few extra pounds is just as good as any other for speaking out the facts.

>>2630306
based on... what?

>>2630345
Based on itself you fanook.

>>2630283
Just wanna get in on this; women in older paintings are fat because that was what people considered attractive. Being fat meant you had wealth, food and luxury, whereas the poor were all thin. Status has a subconscious effect on the human mind. Thin women are seen attractive today because it's easy to get fat, anyone can go out and buy a cheeseburger, whereas the people who can and do stay thin are attractive. If you were living 200 years ago you'd think of skinny women the same way you think of fat women now. It's biology dude, you want the best for your offspring,

Unknown.

>>2630348
I honestly believe that everything just said is mumbo jumbo and easily disproved with one word: corsets.

Now if you please, get outta my face.

>>2630352
That's to do with fashion silhouettes, men wore them too.

>>2630355
[citation needed]

>>2630352
Yeah I definitely will, no point in discussing anything with you.

>>2630355
>men wore them too.
So what.

What I'm putting forward is that there is a slight subjective element to interpreting beauty, but most of it is primarily biologically based.

The old nature vs nurture chestnut. I always thought (and science is proving this despite dumb leftist dismay) that nature was always much stronger than nurture. That is not to rule out nurture completely (it's still very important), but nature is much more important.

>>2630357
Can't believe I have to do this for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1830s_in_fashion#Men.27s_fashion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corset#Fashion

>>2630362
Therefore fatties are gross, and I think painters that painted them as an "ideal" must have been outliers in their idea of beauty, not indicative of what the supermajority of society thought was the ideal of bodily perfection at the time.

>>2630362
Tabula Rasa

Name one bit of human 'nature'.

Koschei the Deathless from Marya Morevna 1900

Amor and Psyche, Edvard Munch. 1907, Oil on canvas, 119.5 x 99 cm.

‘The Execution of Savonarola’ by Ussi

‘Manfred and the Alpine Witch’ by Marti

‘Pandemonium’ by Martin

‘Cathedral in Winter’ by Oehme

unknown

Bocklin - The Plague 1898

>>2630364
Your references don't make any serious mention of men using corsets outside of the context of 1830s Britain, in stark contrast to women's use of corsets. But this debate, of which I'm not a part of, is retarded anyway.

Let's just say that the rule for posting nudes in this thread is: no fatties.

Can you negroids not stop arguing over bullshit and just post some art?

Bartolomeo Manfredi - Apollo and Marsyas, 1616–1620

>>2630393

And forgo the Rubens and the Rembrandts of our past?

Vincent van Gogh - Skull with a Burning Cigarette, 1885-86. Oil on canvas

Believe it's called the 9th Wave.

Done by a Russian artist, but the name eludes me.

>>2630385
Oh my god...that actually gave me a backgasm.

>>2630402
those colors are cool

>>2630406

I love this.

unknown
I'd really appreciate if one of theart patricians could give me then naw.

>>2630406
Name of this one?

>>2630415
I don't know, sorry.

Tarkovsky

>>2630098

give some respect to the guy that invented the toilet.
what would you do without it. Pee in your pants?

"Christina's World", Andrew Wyeth

>>2630438

>dat Wyeth

"Death and the Maiden", Egon Schiele

Degas

Degas, another

>>2630433
Hold on until my balls explode.

>>2630438
looks like someone's jumping from the roof

>>2630441
>samefag

Akseli Gallen-Kallela

Defending the Sampo

William Holman Hunt

The lady of Shallot

>>2630474

Holy shit that's amazing.

also obligatory

Alphonse Mucha

interesting thread. I see you guys like the more classical styles of painting. I enjoy them too, but i wonder if there is something of a lost connection between contemporary painting and actual reality.
I don't often see threads like this and i was wondering, what does /lit/ think of contemporary painting ? anyone have any opinions ?
is painting dead, or merely sleeping ? is conceptual just art speak for 2DEEP4U ?

pic related Albert Oehlens recent work is very appealing to me

>>2630347
yeah no

also women were actually green in band societies! it proves itself

I got turned onto Sickert by a true crime book a of a roommates. The premise of the book being that via "modern forensics" Walter Sickert was Jack the ripper.

Fine artist though.

>>2630283
>not being attracted to a little excess weight

are you 13?

>>2630400
No fatties means no fatties. Plus, any painter worth his salt did more than paint naked ladies, (un?)fortunately.

I fucking love Klimt. Which is great, because I used to hate the everloving fuck out of him.

>2012
>not a single Cézanne in this thread

ISHIGGY BO DIGGY

>>2630531

>>2630520
such overwhelming affection in this one

>>2630098
>>2630132

plebs detected

>>2630540
yeah this thread is full of plebbery

>>2630535
Yeah, Klimt really knows how to capture good feelings. And the bedroom looks. Holy shit.

>>2630550

>>2630551

She looks like Bob Dylan.

>>2630551
Are you the Key Master?

>>2630555
I have no idea what that means.

>>2630551

>>2630557
Would it help to know that she's actually holding a man's decapitated head?

>>2630558

More than I'd like to admit

>>2630556
It is a reference to Ghost Busters. More specifically, to the strong-jawed gauntness of Sigourney Weaver. I hope someone got it.

bump

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Dynamic City by Gustav Klutsis

>>2630700
Lucian Freud - Portrait With Two Children

Cloud and Birds - Joan Miro

David Shrigley

I believe the OP said fine art. Keep these 20th century abortions to yourself.

>>2630735
20th century is best century.

El Lissitsky - Proun 1c

>>2630741

I work in a high-end fine art and antique auction gallery.


I hate art

>>2630188
>looking at paintings for subject matter
Do you read books for plot?

There's more than just painting, y'know.

Ecstasy of St Theressa by Bernini

>>2630755
Once, as a teenager, I masturbated to that angel.

El Greco - The Opening of the Fifth Seal

The Body of the Dead Christ in the Tomb - Hans Holbein

First heard about it in Dostoevsky's The Idiot where it was described hanging in Rogozhin's home.

'Murrica - Fuck Yeah

Thomas Moran

World record price for Watercolor

>>2630370
> from Marya Morevna 1900
That's the work it was in.
The artist is Ivan Bilibin.
His style is fairly distinctive. (and awesome)

>>2630684

nice one

>>2630684
>>2630868
>mfw people post ICO artwork and call it art.
Fucking gamers.

>>2630871

>implying I know that ICO is