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Tell us more about this work and your political beliefs.

well this seems pretty cool. want to talk about it?

>not understanding that nihilism is just a negative version of optimism
>thinking that by embracing it you are doing something different or opposite to the most optimist person

lol. keep trying son.

Yeah OP, tell us a story

>>2620788
>not understanding that pessimism is the negative version of optimism and that nihilism is beyond those two
>not knowing that by embracing it you please yourself beyond good and evil
>not realising that one hereby frees oneself of the grandest false dichotomy of human civilisation

>Be pretty pessimistic about life.
>wonder if I'm a nihilist
>be a filthy Catholic
>apparently_not.jpg

>>2620783
>>2620789
>>2620782
>implying op read the book
>implying op reads

>>2620798
Do you like ANUS?

PREAMBLE
This is the definition of class hatred

Death appears as the harsh victory of the law of our ancestors
over the dimension of our becoming. It is a fact that, as
productivity increases, each succeeding generation becomes
smaller. The defeat of our fathers is revisited upon us as the limits
of our world. Yes, structure is human, it is the monumentalization
of congealed sweat, sweat squeezed from old exploitation and
represented as nature, the world we inhabit, the objective ground.
We do not, in our busy insect-like comings and goings, make the
immediate world in which we live, we do not make a contribution,
on the contrary we are set in motion by it; a generation will pass
before what we have done as an exploited class will seep through
as an effect of objectivity. (Our wealth is laid down in heaven.)
The structure of the world was built by the dead, they were paid in
wages, and when the wages were spent and they were dead in the
ground, what they had made continued to exist, these cities, roads
and factories are their calcified bones.

The had nothing but their wages to show for what they had done
and after their deaths what they did and who they were has been
canceled out. But what they made continued into our present,
their burial and decay is our present.

>>2620798
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re-read Nietzsche please. he IS NOT a nihilist.

fucking retarded americans cant into philosophy

>>2620801
Exactly, what's the point of reading about Nihilism?
What's the point of writing about Nihilism?

This is the definition of class hatred. We are no closer to rest,
to freedom, to communism than they were, their sacrifice has
brought us nothing, what they did counted for nothing, we have
inherited nothing, we work as they worked, we makes as they
made, we are paid as they were paid. We do not possess either
our acts or the world that conditions us, just as they owned nothing
of their lives.

Yes they produced value, they made the world in which we now
live. The world that now weighs down upon us is constructed from
the wealth they made, wealth that was taken from them as soon as
they were paid their wage, taken and owned by someone else,
owned and used to define the nature of ownership and the class
domination that preserves it.

>>2620808
Yes, because all Americans think this.

zzzzzzzzzz

We too must work, and the value we produce leaks away from us,
from each only a trickle but in all a sea of it and that, for the next
generation, will thicken into wealth for others to own and as a
congealed structure it will be used as a vantage point for the
bourgeoisie to direct new enterprises in new and different
direction but demanding always the same work.

The class war begins in the desecration of our ancestors: millions
of people going to their graves as failures, forever denied the
experience of a full human existence, their being was simply
canceled out. The violence of the bourgeoisie's appropriation of
the world of work becomes the structure that dominates our
existence. As our parents die, we can say truly that their lives
were for nothing, that the black earth is thrown down onto
them blacks out our sky.

>>2620811
lol u just proved my point assuming i implied that.

certainly they do not think THAT concrete idea, they can come with a million different ideas, but they all come from the same point of view from this idiot >>2620798 is talking.

of course by saying "american" i do not mean someone born in us soil or someone holding a us passport. that should be clear.

OP here, that's all I'm posting, the entire book is available for free online.

>>2620822
No, that's not clear at all, but sure.

>>2620802
Sort of. They have their moments.

>>2620808
Just because I borrowed the term "beyond good and evil" doesn't mean that I consider Nietzsche a nihilist. Also, I'm European. And I've re-read most of Nietzsche's work.

That said, I think Nietzsche would agree that nihilism as we now it (not the nihilism he accused christianity of) is beyond good and evil. It just isn't the only way of looking at life that is, it is one of the many.

>>2620824
Link it faggot.

>>2620832
Sorry, I assumed all /lit/fags knew how to use google:
http://nihilistcommunism.blogspot.com/

>>2620843
So this was promotion for your own blogged ramblings all along?

>>2620843
Says file was deleted...

Wow, that's written terribly.

>>2620852
No, this book came out a few years ago. I find it a really good read.

>>2620865
Weird. That's where I was cutting and pasting the text from. Just google it. Shit.

>Hey guys I am repacking the same old Marxist message only in a depressing tone disgrading the Enlightment roots of the idea

Is there anything on Nihilist Facism?

>>2620908
Fascism can't really be nihilistic.

>>2620914
}: WHY NOT?

>>2620918
Because it implies strong and fanatical ideology and a collective united by these values.

>>2620920
so does communism/op is a fag

>>2620908
Hegelian products are inherently opposed to nihilism. Which is why nihilist marxism is just a big ploy appealing to alienated marxists so that a nihilist author can get an audience.

>>2620926
Or a marxist luring in edgy kids.

Nice name for a namefag, by the way.

>>2620920
but but but...

For example, this guys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/36th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS

their pure nihilism
pure war Zen

Also, can anyone reasonalize a way to put facism or explain it as nihilist so I can be happy, plox?

>>2620931
Those guys were a bunch of crazies and psychopaths utilised by the Nazi's as a tool. They were in no way textbook national socialists. More like berserkers, actually.

Fascists have a stern and strict hierarchy of values. They may be deemed nihilistic by their opponents however, since they don't recognize all sort of things humanists hold sacred.

>>2620931
What this guy said >>2620946


Fascists have a stern and strict hierarchy of values.

I like how 4chan thinks they're all edgy with all this Hitler shit when he had a strict line that everyone had to tow.
I personally am not a communist, I'm an anarchist. Although there are some communists who aren't rigid, I mean calling yourself a 'Marxist', or for that matter an 'anyone-ist' is silly in my opinion.

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