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>> No.2541923

>>2541920
>not including scotland, a country that has brought you such greats as...euhm, wait, there was... didn't we have... what about...
fuck.

>> No.2541922

>>2541920
Fuck off.

>> No.2541929
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2541929

Argentina counts as Spain for purposes of this thread, rite guise?

first captcha: some text in Arabic script. Seems appropriate somehow.

>> No.2541928
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>>2541923
>>2541922

Mad, pleb ?

>> No.2541932

>>2541928
Nope, just tired of retarded tier threads.

>> No.2541934

>>2541923

JM Barrie, John Buchan, Arthur Conan Doyle, James Hogg, RL Stevenson, Walter Scott, and - perhaps most importantly of all - Scotland was the first nation (in the form of its principal university, Edinburgh) in the world to offer courses in English Literature.

>> No.2541936

>>2541923
JK Rowling.

Oh well, we invented a veritable fuckload of stuff. That's our contribution to humanity.

>> No.2541938

>>2541934
Scotland, England, Wales => come on, it's all the same !

>> No.2541943

>Ireland not God Tier

>> No.2541948

>>2541936

Don't be so quick to discount Scotland's credentials. Edinburgh's amongst the most literary cities I've ever visited. Also, if it wasn't for our desolate landscape and Calvinist tendencies, Byron would probably have never become a great poet.

>> No.2541949

>>2541936
We also have Irvine Welsh. The man who wrote about stuff he seen in leith... even though he never grew up in Leith and would shit himself at the YLT.

Trainspotting was good though.

We invented capitalism. Go figure, the most socialist nation in the UK, created capitalism.

>> No.2541954

I bet your "favourite" "book" is "ulysses"

>> No.2541956

>>2541934
Seriously, dude? Seriously?

Including John Buchan, or JM Barrie, or RLS in the context of world-historical literature is just batshit crazy. And I like those authors, I really do! John Buchan is awesome! But come on dude he does not belong on this scale.

>> No.2541960

>>2541938

I basically agree that British literature ought to be collectivised, but when a moron like the OP merely refers to 'England' it seems important to remind him of what he's wrongly discounting.

>> No.2541971

Up Russia, down Ireland/Japan.

>> No.2541974

God tier:
my opinion

Shit tier:
your opinion

>> No.2541977

>>2541960
Well, I AM OP.

>> No.2541985

>>2541956

Firstly, I absolutely believe that Stevenson ought to be considered a literary 'great'. He is, in fact, a far better writer than Conan Doyle (making your choice of example somewhat questionable, to say the least). Secondly, no standard has been set in this thread as to how one would classify whether or not a writer deserves to 'score a point' for his nation on the qualitative 'literary league table'. I suspect, if pushed, many of the representatives of the nations who made it onto the 'top two' tiers would begin to resort to naming writers of great popularity but questionable merit (like Conan Doyle or Buchan) and writers renowned largely for a single, memorable work (like Barrie). What's more, I do not think that the USA, nor Ireland, has a 'Scott' to boast.

>> No.2541987

For Gavin Douglas alone Scotland should be on there. Ireland, Russia and USA up, Germany and France down.

>> No.2541989

Elder God:
Irish, German, Russian

God:
English, American

High:
French, Greco-Roman, Japanese

Whatever:
The rest

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2541990

>>2541977

I thought as much.

>> No.2541993

>>2541987

I think the USA's probably fine where it is, other than that I agree with you.

>> No.2541994

ITT: Caucasians

>> No.2541995
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2541995

No mention of Italian literature, thus far.

>> No.2541997

>>2541994

White males write the best literature. Demonstrable fact.

>> No.2542000

>>2541997
my point proven

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>>2541989
English, French and Greco-Roman lower than Russian or Irish ?!

>> No.2542002

>>2542000

White males do write the best literature, though.

>> No.2542005

>>2541989

Anyone who doesn't categorise England in the top tier immediately loses their legitimacy, as far as I'm concerned.

>> No.2542006

>>2542002
funny how you never state whether or not you've read literature written by other kinds of people.

>> No.2542008

>>2542006

I think it ought to be implicit that I have. You understand how comparison operates, no?

>> No.2542009

>>2542005
This.

Also goes for French and Greco-Roman literature.

>> No.2542012

>>2542008
Right, based on the number of authors/countries you listed to support your argument, of course you have.

>> No.2542016

>>2542009

I'm happy to welcome these two nations to the 'incontestable' tier. However, if we're presuming a 'classical' grouping to be functional - or in some way preferable - then I think we ought to categorise Britain as a single unit, too.

>> No.2542021

SCOTLAND. GET IN THERE.

FUCK YEAH THE UNITED KINGDOM.

BORN AND BRED. UP YEEEEE

>> No.2542022

>>2542012

Well, as I said in my previous post, I considered it 'implicit'. It would be odd if I explicated the implicit, wouldn't it?

>> No.2542027

>>2542016
I think there are too many god tier writers in Britain, France, Germany and also Greco-Roman civilisations that you can't establish a hierarchy between them.

>> No.2542028

>>2542027
and* that you can't[...]

>> No.2542029

>>2542022
Right, implicitly you are a white male, who hasn't written any good literature. Therefore you are explicitly also.

>> No.2542035

>>2542027

I absolutely agree. Classical literature served as a foundation upon which these three colossi built, interdependently.

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>>2542029

Haven't 'written' any? It seems that you've confused 'white males write the greatest literature' with 'all white males write great literature'.

>> No.2542213

>pleb

Get the fuck out OP. Using that word on /mu/ may make people think you're smart but it doesn't work here.

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>>2541989
Most correct tier list

>> No.2542232

>>2541989
I can live with this.

>> No.2542352

>>2541920
Hahahaha this guy

Hey guys do you like England literature its god-tier, so is Germany literature and France literature. Russia and Japan literature aren't good

>pleb
fuck off back to /mu/ elitist cunt

>> No.2544345

>>2542352
>aren't good
>Very Good Tier

You can read... right ?

(also, BUMP)

>> No.2544566

Along with many others, I agree Russia move up.

>> No.2544584

>>2541989

This is how I've always seen it.

>> No.2544622

Russia belongs up there with countries like France and Germany if only because of Tolstoy

>> No.2544628

If you include Japan you have to include China too. Their modern literature might not be as well-regarded, in general, but their classical literature is up there with the best