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2522163 No.2522163 [Reply] [Original]

How does philosophy discern genuine intellectuals from vapid frauds who just want clout?

>> No.2522167

Why is that guy's Evian bottle full of urine?

>> No.2522168

by scrutinizing their arguments.

>> No.2522176

Modern academic philosophy does it by closely examining the thinker and his writing, and making sure he doesn't have any outdated ideas that conflict with modern secular humanism, relativism, and postmodernism. If he says anything like "metaphysics" or "ontology," he is a quack.

>> No.2522175

It's determined by the timing and intensity of reaction when being spanked.

>> No.2522179 [DELETED] 

>>2522168
What standards do they use scrutinize their arguments? Intuition? How interesting an assertion is? Do they have rigorous laws of logic arguments have to follow?

>> No.2522183 [DELETED] 

>>2522168
What standards do they use scrutinize to arguments? Intuition? How interesting an assertion is? Do they have rigorous laws of logic arguments have to follow?

>> No.2522187

>>2522168
What standards do they use to scrutinize arguments? Intuition? How interesting an assertion is? Do they have rigorous laws of logic arguments have to follow?

>> No.2522189

>>2522183
internal consistency, logical consistency, agreement with scientific knowledge, basic intuition, rationality.

>> No.2522190

>>2522163
Why would anyone who wants clout be concerned with philosophy?

>> No.2522195

>>2522190
Because academics are probably the most venerated class of people there are in contemporary society.

>> No.2522207

>>2522195
..By who? In what country? I live in America and celebrities (however minor) and sports players can coast on infinite fame for doing nothing.

>> No.2522213

>>2522207
>..By who? In what country? I live in America and celebrities (however minor) and sports players can coast on infinite fame for doing nothing.
veneration /= fame

>> No.2522221

>>2522213
They may not be equal but the type of celebrity movie stars and football/basketball players get is a form of worship, adoration, admiration. People look at them like gods. They're modern chariot racers.

>> No.2522232

>>2522221
>They're modern chariot racers.
And academics are modern mystics, mages, and priests.

>> No.2522237

>>2522232
except one tenth as respected or consulted

>> No.2522238

It doesn't. Posterity does that.

>> No.2522242

>>2522176

>Modern academic philosophy

Stopped reading there. Nothing but hacks and frauds. You are delusional if you imagine otherwise.

No great philosopher has ever had anything good to say about academic philosophy.

>> No.2522252

>>2522237
>except one tenth as respected or consulted
You're right, governments and corporations around the world regularly make it a habit to get policy advice from sports and movie stars, and ignore academics almost entirely.

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2522263

Dubs to liven up a shit thread

>> No.2522264

>>2522242
it's painfully obvious you either haven't read or haven't understood recent philosophy.

>> No.2522266

>>2522264
>brainwashed idiot/one of those hacks spotted

>> No.2522275

>>2522266
troll/10

go pretend philosophy ended with Nietzsche.

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>>2522264

>recent philosophy

>>2522275

It did. Academic philosophy is the philosophical equivalent of pop music. Deal with it.

>> No.2522285

>>2522275
No, Heidegger

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>>2522263

still working on getting these dubs, hang on

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>>2522289

fuck me, off by one post.

>> No.2522293

>>2522263
>Ask a simple question about philosophy on a board where 25% of all threads are concerned with philosophy.
>Shit
What, was I not verbose enough or something? Should I have posted a picture of a philosopher with their chin in their hand instead of attractive young men?

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2522295

The continentals/theorists( frauds in the nerds' eyes) get the women.

Have fun being poontang-less analyticfags.

>> No.2522302

>>2522293

>being gay on the internet

In other news, still no dubs in this thread.

>> No.2522310

>>2522168

>thread

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>>2522302

dub dubs up nah murfuher

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>>2522324

Fuck, some cunt starts a hunger games troll thread and now it's like a post every second. can't even get dubs on fucking /lit/ man, feels pretty fucking sadfrog.jpg

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2522333

dubs are for cunts anyway

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>>2522333

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>>2522333

Now we have a thread.

>> No.2522347

>>2522163
Writing style, respect for the natural sciences, etc.

See e.g.: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/824-postmodernism-disrobed

>Suppose you are an intellectual impostor with nothing to say, but with strong ambitions to succeed in academic life, collect a coterie of reverent disciples and have students around the world anoint your pages with respectful yellow highlighter. What kind of literary style would you cultivate? Not a lucid one, surely, for clarity would expose your lack of content. The chances are that you would produce something like the following:

[continental philosophy/psychoanalytics]

>> No.2522363

>>2522333
OHHHOHOHOHO

That's because you're all about the trips.

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>>2522347

See also: Hegel, Derrida, Sartre, etc.

>> No.2522368

>>2522347

style is content

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2522371

>>2522347
>>2522347

gtfo. this is now a dubs thread, son

>> No.2522380

>>2522371
Go back to /v/, son.

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2522388

>>2522363

not so

>> No.2522390

>>2522347
>Suppose you are an intellectual impostor with nothing to say
>richarddawkins.net

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>>2522390
What's the matter, too cogent for u?

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>>2522388
>>2522422

Now this is quality posting right here.

>> No.2522442

>>2522176

>and making sure he doesn't have any outdated ideas that conflict with modern secular humanism, relativism, and postmodernism.

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>>2522442

>forgot pic

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>> No.2522465 [DELETED] 

>>2522449
>thinks beauty isn't a social construct
>implying is it

>> No.2522468

>>2522176
Don't' forget outdated things like science, biology, and genetics

also all those evil ideologies such as conservatism, nationalism, patriotism, and anything that doesn't involve being a cowardly pacifist who is glad to witness the genocide of his own people.