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itt: post latest journal entry. Once thread reaches 100 posts feel free to post the journal entry after. 'journal entry' counts as absolutely anything you wrote in your notebook, including part of a story/poetry whatever

>> No.2425234

fuck journals

>> No.2425233

a furrow is a ‘trench-like depression.’ according to dictionary.com I am a furrow.

winter is the most unattractive month. like outside and for people. I can’t even see people’s necks and stuff because they’re wearing scarves and I can’t see thighs because pants. Kinda lame. Every tragedy is something you get used to though I guess. Here is real time of something I wrote from being in Sociology.

Coffee sweat pools at the backs of my thighs. My jeans soak it up. Need my nicotine blood. Sociology. Generalizations about generation. ’In my day,’ are three words I hate hearing. 3 girls in my discussion group. A girl in a ponytail with a multitude of those small metal clips in her hair. Her hairline is fucking amazing. I am jealous of the proliferation of follicles on her head and how they all fan out into beautiful spots. Like she wouldn’t even need to get her hair wet to look good, it just would. It is dark brown and tight back in a ponytail. She has caramel skin, not totes white. She is the best looking via makeup. Her position in the beauty hierarchy would no doubt change if it weren’t for her savant color dust artistry stuff. One girl in my group is young, blonde and coughing on me. Get away. One is in intelligent, faux ginger (because of the sheer redness) (but also srsly a ginger because freckles). She has short hair. She says relative things about homeless people and conflict perspective.
I want to fuck the brown haired girl. I hope no one can read this print because I’m in a classroom right now. monsters inc. Who am I kidding, my writing looks like a toddlers. With hooks for hands and autismal. My teachers teeth don’t really come out of her mouth when she talks, like she has braces. Her voice is therefore unpleasant, this being a further addition to my list of why I hate sociology and this prof. Show me them pearly whites, mrs. Cunt.

>> No.2425239

>>2425232
Some business/economics major at the back of the classroom puts up his hand. He has caramel skin, but also an unidentifiable race. He talks for 5 minutes about trade treaties. My fuck prospective gets visibly wet in her chair. She says out loud ‘he’s smart’ while the guy is talking, sort of to herself, then she giggles. My teacher sees her lips and nods her head in approval.

My Soc. teacher says ‘I hate the world’ in class. I disregard the context because this is juicy. Some kid asks why incest is illegal. ”It’s a social construct” she replies. No. No. Hemophilia, among other reasons. Why don’t you just fuck your sister, I think.

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>>2425234

>> No.2425244

>>2425239
Your soc teacher was right

>> No.2425245

i had a journal with stuff like this but then i left like a plane, also it wasnt as bad as this

anyway, fukc you

>> No.2425247

Yeah, I started to post, but after looking at it, I'm not putting the shit that's in my journal on 4chan.

>> No.2425262

>>2425247
Good idea. The OP is vain and an attention whore. He also writes very poorly. I really hated reading his entry.

>> No.2425270

dear journal

i just read some faggots shitty journal entries. i was highly displeased. apparently he labors under the delusion that anyone cares.

until next time,

your penman

>> No.2425283

>>2425270
>>2425262
>>2425247
Jesus you guys are faggots. Writing about things that happen to you in a notebook is vain and attentionwhoring... okay.
Bumping thread for people aren't utter beta pussy's to contribute
> apparently he labors under the delusion that anyone cares
wasn't making this thread to say 'look at me' I was contributing an entry to get the ball rolling. You guys are such negative pieces of shit, why even post

>> No.2425296

anger as justification. you have to get tough on the world that got tough on you, to teach it a lesson, to show it how hard it has to be. to grow it up, to make it again... in your image?

>> No.2425298

all affection becomes a show of insecurity... an in-group thing... a statement of who we would and would not love....

and therefore meaningless... god what a downer.

people try to make and destroy authenticity at the same time. they want to take it away from other people. they want to replace one version with another.

>> No.2425304

>>2425232
slap shot is such a document of the Me era. why? because of the times. because of time. the trend of embarrassment, self-confession. just being a regular person. steve mcqueen. porn getting to be mainstream. deep throat at the main street cinema. like a joke. like a striptease. you're bald, why can't you accept that? such a time for spectacle. athletes as whores. naturally. whores as everyone's heroes. losers as winners. but most of all, whores. getting back to where we started.

>> No.2425308

>>2425283
I don't want my ideas and emotions scrutinized by 4channers, of all people. It's contradictory to the point of keeping the journal in the first place. Not to mention, it's mostly full of weird tangents, snippets of lines and ideas I've had for writing, and observations about people I know personally with only so much context stated as I need to know what I'm talking about, so a good half of it wouldn't even be comprehensible to people on here looking at it.

>> No.2425310

>>2425283
>wasn't making this thread to say 'look at me' I was contributing an entry to get the ball rolling.
Sure sure. Although reading your entry I can almost believe you are so idiotic as to lack any foresight whatsoever.

>> No.2425325

>>2425310
I adopt an impulsive tone in my writing all the time. Because I wrote it down doesn't mean it's necessarily how I feel, fuckface.

>>2425308
You're feeding the cycle which you say you hate. >I don't want my writing scrutinized
then don't scrutinize other people's writing, just be carefree and not so self-examining when you perform every life action, to the extent you care about people's anonymous view of anonymous you. Jesus

I like all of the things people have posted so far that were relative to the thread

>> No.2425326

>>2425308
i don't know, i think most of us could understand shit like "joe is a p. cool guy, he gives me free weed" no matter the context

>> No.2425330

>>2425325
>I adopt an impulsive tone in my writing all the time. Because I wrote it down doesn't mean it's necessarily how I feel, fuckface.
Woah, did I say anything about your feelings? About an "impulsive tone"? (whatever that means) You seem upset, though the reasons seem to have come out of nowhere. I'm guessing you hurt those you love and are unable to have a fulfilling sexual relationship.

>> No.2425336

>>2425330
yea well I'm guessing
> generalization about every /lit/izen
about you too!

>> No.2425344

22nd
A foolish inconsistency, doubtless, but a minor inconvenience to be sure. All seems well for the timetable, save one tiny tiny small ding. Must get the kicks, but the man is unresponsive. Here's hoping the government will prevail.

I'm not always this vague you guys I swear

>> No.2425346

Dear Journal,

Today OP was a faggot.

>> No.2425349

>>2425344
I believe you're "generally vague"

>> No.2425383
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2425383

Dear journal,

I am only not God as far as I think I am myself.

>> No.2425403

The freedom of which they speak is not your own, it is theirs and it is theirs alone.

Call it a troll. The dollar bills that pass through your hands are but reminders of what is left of you when the work is over. An eye on top of a pyramid, built by slaves that died for it. And their suffering, hey, well who's to give a shit?

Look at the bar codes on the books you bought. Look at the logos, like the google ones. Dot in the center, equilateral triangle, top facing up. There are a million variations everywhere thereof.

I know, they say, the triangle is easy. Take a piece of paper, arbitrarily scribble, you'll see. But no, I say, that's bullshit, cry "please!" each angle must form only sixty degrees. There's got to be an infinite motherfucking number of these, yet they choose one, and only one, and it's you on your knees.

You say founding fathers I said they were slave owners. So some of these things so insane, just hidden there before you in sight plain. I stay up all night wondering will it ever change, and then I finally say "no way, man."

>> No.2425408

>>2425239
Incest is a social construct?

whatTheFuckAmIStudying.jpg

This is why you take journal entries. It is a meditation by fire of the shit that is trying to get into our minds.

Nice thread OP

>> No.2425411

>>2425408

It is. Inbreeding might be a biological problem in some cases, but non-procreational sex between family members has no real disadvantages.

>> No.2425420

>>2425411
2/10

in - as in "within"
breed - "making babies"

Lrn2Deliverance and troll harder, dueling banjos.

>> No.2425426

>>2425420
There have been plenty of cultures that had no taboo against incest. It's not a universal thing, hence it's a social construct.
We have scientific justifications for its taboo status now, but that doesn't mean it's a biological taboo, that's a ridiculous assumption.

>> No.2425429

>>2425411

Incest =/= inbreeding. To your recommended reading list I officially add the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

>> No.2425432

>>2425426
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHA.

Why board was smart again?

"Other cultures" used to practice human sacrifice. That doesn't validate it.

A "social construct" is something that cannot be proven to exist scientifically. There is evidence for inbreeding correlating with higher birth defects. Therefore, no.

Who taught you how to argue?

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>> No.2425433

She's not your typical alcoholic. She drinks conscientiously, every night, like it's a chore.

People watch her greedily, but they watch from a distance.

"The idea of people masturbating to bad photos of me consoles me more than anything my mother ever said."

"If I could make myself touch him, I'd smash his teeth in."

>> No.2425435

>>2425429
I was referring to the post where he mentioned "inbreeding"; not mine.

To YOUR reading list, I would like to add Putnam's "Symbolic Logic" so you can learn the meaning of "referent".

Holy fuck, the stupid...make it stop...

>> No.2425445

I was sitting opposite R. While we talked, I assembled a toy from a kinder surprise. Then I saw myself through his eyes. How dumb, how childish to buy chocolate that is 80 % plastic waste. The desk was high, I sat on a low chair. I tried to sit straighter but the desk became higher and higher. He disappeared out of sight.

>> No.2425446

>>2425432
What the fuck are you babbling about? Human sacrifice was a social construct, too. Saying something is a social construct doesn't "validate" it, whatever that means in the context of the discussion.

The fact that inbreeding produces birth defects does not make the actual act of incest only biological. The concept of family is a social construct, again, because the concept of family is a social function which changes over time.

>A "social construct" is something that cannot be proven to exist scientifically.
Uhhhh... what? Social constructs can have scientific evidence as backing for their existence. Where did you come up with this bizarre definition of social constructs?

>There is evidence for inbreeding correlating with higher birth defects. Therefore, no.
And I already addressed this, here:
>We have scientific justifications for its taboo status now, but that doesn't mean it's a biological taboo, that's a ridiculous assumption.
It's a ridiculous assumption because we had incest long before we had biological studies to confirm its harmful effects. Incest was not even thought of AS incest in some cultures. There was simply no taboo against it. Hence, it's a social construct. The fact that we have information now that proves its harmful does not make it less of a social construct.

>> No.2425450

I think of you whenever they leave me alone. Between times, between lines. Default.

Do I know her? Apparently.

And then you realize that she never breaks a rule. She makes all the rules.

>> No.2425452

1
: something constructed by the mind: as a : a theoretical entity <the deductive study of abstract constructs — D. J. Boorstin> b : a working hypothesis or concept <the unconscious was a construct that came from the daily effort to understand patients>
2
: a product of ideology, history, or social circumstances <privacy is more than a social construct or an idea; it is a condition of the body — Sallie Tisdale>

Where's your dictionary god, now, faggot?!

Theoretical meaning not real, meaning false. Like Harry Potty.

Now disappear.

>> No.2425453

>>Some kid asks why incest is illegal. ”It’s a social construct” she replies.
>>No. No. Hemophilia, among other reasons.
>>Why don’t you just fuck your sister, I think.

You see this? In the original context, the teacher is saying that there is no basis for its illegality. By social construct, she is saying it has no basis, or (teehee) legitimacy.

The moral of this tale: Woe be unto the man who derides incest on 4chan.

>> No.2425461

>>2425452
>theoretical meaning not real, meaning false
That's not what theoretical means.

1. Concerned with or involving the theory of a subject or area of study rather than its practical application: "a theoretical physicist".
2. Based on or calculated through theory rather than experience or practice: "a theoretical reformer of opinions".

>You see this? In the original context, the teacher is saying that there is no basis for its illegality.
That's retarded. There are plenty of social constructs that have a basis which makes them sound for social stability. Freedom is a social construct, but it has its basis in logical ethical principles. Those logical ethical principles, keep in mind, are theoretical.

>> No.2425467

>>2425452
If you think Harry Potter is theoretical, and not fictional, you're a couple cards short of a deck, by the way.

>> No.2425475

>>2425467
Wand law is theoretical.

>> No.2425476

>>2425475
You're right, I'm forgetting that there are people who propose that the use of wands and incantations to summon objects from the aether could be a fact or a credible explanation of phenomena.

>> No.2425480

That's a cowardly style of writing, OP.

>> No.2425484

>>2425476
You're delightful for a tripfag

>> No.2425489

>>2425484
Disclaimer: I just find people to metaphorically stand next to who make me look smart. I'm not actually smart.

>> No.2425493

>>2425489
lol, that's not nice.

I just enjoy reading your arguments, they're well-thought and funny.

>> No.2425503

>>2425433
>>2425403
>>2425344
>>2425304
>>2425298
>>2425296
>>2425233


Why do you guys bother writing? It's clear that none of you can even think, nevermind write. You're intellectually and emotionally crippled in that awful, kitsch "postmodern America" way. This style of autistic sentimentally is not worth imitating; leave it to Tao Lin, who has the talent for advertising and self promotion that makes this kind of writing at least marginally relevant. If you don't have that talent then you are basically going nowhere with this style. Listen to the wiser folk: Get a Job.

>>2425489
> I just find people to metaphorically stand next to who make me look smart.

Come on, you can't even claim that really.

>> No.2425507

>>2425503
>sentimentally
sentimentality

>> No.2425517

>>2425233
y u write so simple
its horrible

>> No.2425551

>>2425503
It happens all the time, IRL and on the internet. I get the "you're like, so smart, man!" comments all the time, and I have to accept that when I protest they think I'm being modest and not honest.

>> No.2425555

>>2425551
There are very few places I'm shown to be a dumbass and /lit/ is one of them, which is why I a) respect people's opinions here unless it's just total nonsense and b) come back. I like being proven wrong, especially if I learn from it.

>> No.2425559

>>2425551
It seems to me that IRL
Most people are quite dim
And with multisyllabic words
You will most folks disarm

But limit, then, your circle to
Your intellectual peers
And you will rarely ever hear,
"Oh, wow, you are so smrt!"

In case you now are wondering
Why meter is here used:
I've set my mind to write this way
For this entire week.

>> No.2425561

yeah we know the cliche 'always learning' position brohemoth so cut it out.

>> No.2425563

Dear Diary,
Ever have one of those shits where it's more like you're just peeing brown sludge out yer butthole? Like you're a sponge that's been soaked in tar and egg yolk and now you're being helplessly wrung out? Accompanied of course by a searing pain in your lower gut that doubles you over, the only slightly alleviating option is to rock back and forth whimpering as a thin trickle of drool dangles from your pudgy lips. When it finally ends, do you look? Or do you just slam the lid down and spritz air freshener before washing your hands and making a quick exit? That was one of the worst first dates ever.

>> No.2425573

>>2425559
As a matter of fact, you are quite right:
the tedious will, in life's tedium
(lacking knowledge of circumlocution)
treat trite discovery as if insight.

Where learned reside, and the skeptics snide,
remark upon the unremarkable,
(and the minds rarely, if ever, grow dull)
truth flows smooth, shoddy arguments don't slide.

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>>2425561
I love ye. Always have.

>> No.2425616

>>2425551
You're smart, asshole. Deal with it.

>> No.2425618

Youfuckindie.tumblr.com

Yeah, really. I feel more and more adolescent with each passing second.

>> No.2425622

Additionally, I have an issue with the hypocrisy of the whole thing. Writing is exempted: Nabokov's Lolita is okay, and so is Pierre Louÿs' Trois filles de leur mère, among many others. Indeed, texts online which feature actual child abuse are also okay, because it doesn't "depict the act graphically" or some other wording like that. Texts where the child is defined as 8, 12, 13 or what have you years old is fine, because it's just words, but a picture with a person that looks like it's in pre-puberty -- despite its given age in any accompanying text, or lack thereof -- is somehow worse?

I suppose Andrea Dworkin and Catharine MacKinnon are happy now -- their idea that a pornographic picture constitutes sexual assault reached the laws here in the 80's through Ecpat, and has now become this travesty.

I'm not saying we should or shouldn't allow comics featuring children having sex; that discussion can be had at another time -- but the law as it stands is, for lack of a better wording, fucked up. It's bordering on punishing people for thought-crime. What comes next?

Child pornography is a political baseball bat, wielded to create laws for censoring the Internet, argue for more surveillance, more police power and interfere with civil rights and free speech. And you can't argue against it, because then you'd be labelled... I don't know what, really -- pedophile? pro-child pornography? -- and your chances of getting re-elected disappears real quick with a label like that. It's clear that the law isn't working as intended, but they can't fix it because of the threat to their political careers.

>> No.2425652

>>2425446

>The concept of family is a social construct
What positive outcome does a socially constructed idea of love for those genetically closest to you represent? And compare that to the effects the same concept may have if it rather is caused by your instincts.

>It's a ridiculous assumption because we had incest long before we had biological studies to confirm its harmful effects. Incest was not even thought of AS incest in some cultures. There was simply no taboo against it. Hence, it's a social construct. The fact that we have information now that proves its harmful does not make it less of a social construct.

So you're essentially implying that the lack of sexual attraction between mother-son/sister-brother etc. is a social construct? Evolutionary bio-psychology can explain a lot of what you would define as "social constructs" as they often are rooted in basic human instincts, and can begin to form memes - and further enforced through laws, or social norms.

Interracial attraction represents a genetic diversity, inbreeding however, stands in a stark contrast.
Incest was accepted, even encouraged, in cultures where there exist a belief of genetic "purity", or a superiority that is held within certain families, or socially isolated groups. If anything, I'd say the acceptance of incest may be a social constructs, not the taboo of incest.

I want you to find examples of either primitive tribal cultures that yet hasn't been influenced by religion, or somehow are found under environmental pressure that forces the need for inbreeding, where incest is as normal as usual sexual behavior.

>> No.2425656

>>2425652
Either primitive tribes or animals*

>> No.2425676
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SOCIAL CONSTRRRUUUCCCCTT SOICCAL CONSTRUCCCHHTTTFTHHH
SOCHIEAL CONSTRUCCCHHTTHHHH

>> No.2425677

>>2425656

Animal tribes

>> No.2425681

>>2425677
No, I was talking about either human tribes, or animals in general.

>> No.2425691

>>2425652
>Evolutionary bio-psychology can explain a lot of what you would define as "social constructs" as they often are rooted in basic human instincts, and can begin to form memes - and further enforced through laws, or social norms.
It can be a vehicle for a particular ideology, but the idea of evolutionary psychology is not usable in such specific circumstances. If it's a question that can be typically answered or has been answered in some way by anthropology, it's generally not for Evo-Psych.

>> No.2425693

>>2425681

Human animal tribes.

>> No.2425694

>>2425693
Humanimal

>> No.2425696

>>2425681

yeah like animal tribes and humans living together.

>> No.2425707

>>2425691
Evo-psy and anthropology go hand in hand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology#Evolution_and_culture

>> No.2425711

>>2425707
Clearly don't:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/iots/iots_20001102-0900a.mp3

>> No.2425715

>>2425711
I'm not home at the moment, so I'll have to check that out later.

>> No.2425717

>>2425715
Always checking stuff out later.

>> No.2425720

>>2425707
If you took a break from masturbating to Evo Psych and looked up some contemporary anthropology, you'd see that that's bullshit.

>> No.2425726

I just copied out like 4 quotations from my Hebrew-language Bible, and translated one of them.

>> No.2425744

>>2425711
I love the English. The patriot in me won't allow me to fully believe they're a smarter nation than we are, but I occasionally have my doubts.

>> No.2425754

>>2425744
I think you just answered your own question there, friend.

>> No.2425769

>>2425754
Allow me my delusions. They are essential to my well being.