/lit/ - Literature

>>23940429
and people say /sffg/ isn't dead. how long has it been without a general?

>>23940445
The previous thread just ended. Ignorant and malicious.

>>23940455
Last post in the last general was 7 hours ago

Since no one responded last thread.

What books showed up that you never expected to see published after the author ducked out?

>Have faith in the Lord Fifth, gain eternal life!
>With the Lord Fifth around, who dares to cause strife!

Post the
>last book you read
>current book you are reading
>next book you plan to read
you no-reading worthless sacks of wasted oxygen.

>>23940512
And? /lit/ is a slow board, newfag. 7 hours isn't anything. We've gone 12+ hours without a thread before.

>>23940825
>last book
The Power that Preserves
>current book
The Wounded Land
>next book
The One Tree

The Chronicles are growing on me a bit, although Covenant's incessant incompetence is hard to deal with.

>finish Illearth War
>Covenant's daughter dies and he goes back into the real world
>start reading The Power that Preserves
>sheriff is triyng to have him kicked out of his house
>he doesn't care
>he has an open wound on his forehead
>doesn't care
>stops taking his medicine
>goes to religious revival meeting because he can't handle being alone anymore
I'm going to take a break now, I just know this will end in tears.
>>23940862
I've related to Covenant from book 1, his desire for human companionship reminds me of my own social anxieties.

>>23940869
Don't stop now, Power that Preserves actually gives a bit of respite after the unending bleakness of the first two books.

I relate to Covenant too, except that he is impressive and indominable in how he deals with his weakness, which makes me resent him a bit. Oh well. I like the atmosphere of the books - it's like there's a grey cloud hanging over everything all the time, even when the actual scene is describing unimaginable beauty. I don't think I've ever seen a total asshole written so convincingly.

>>23940825
>last book you read
Legion, by Sanderson
>current book you are reading
Leviathan Wakes, by Corey
>next book you plan to read
Before they are hanged, by Abercrombie

>>23936265
>money
>fanfiction
Selling smut commissions on the downlow, since even though it's fruit of the poisoned tree most games don't want to acknowledge the fact that coomers and coomettes are fans of their shit.

>Naani's feet mentioned again

What do any or all of you like seeing in Fantasy? What do you hate? Wide range or niche. Common or Rare. Just anyone that cares unload on me.

Also for genuine curiosity, sex may not have belonged in say LOTR, but what about other types of stories like Pulp?

>>23941182
>Also for genuine curiosity, sex may not have belonged in say LOTR, but what about other types of stories like Pulp?
I don't like sex in any type of fiction (Other than erotica), but I don't know why, it's not like I'm some sort of prude and I watch porn occasionally. It just seems cheap I guess.

>>23941182
I don't have a problem with the inclusion of sex, but I don't care for deliberately erotic content if its not the main purpose of the story

I finished Dragonflight and found it incredibly mediocre. I actually really liked the beginning of the book, the Ruatha Hold part, but then they left and things kind of fell apart. I think I would have liked it better if the characters had a modicum of personality beyond "shakes Lessa", "is stubborn". I also thought Lessa would be the protagonist and rather enjoyed her psycho planning in the first chapters but then she lost all charm and her dragon ended up having more presence. Another thing I liked but whose impact was seriously lacking was the time travel. We kept getting small revelations and twists until the final big twist which was really cool in theory, but since the writing was pretty bad, only ended up feeling like another milestone and that was it.
I won't keep reading but at least I know what this series is about now.

>>23941232
Oh right, I also liked the concept of Threads but they never felt like an actual threat. Definitely a writing style problem.

>>23941192
>>23941197

>Sex

I forgot to clarify, what I’m thinking of isn’t really sex scenes but more of say minimal foreplay or a clarification of another characters physical appearance.

This wouldn’t be drawn out, at most a few lines.

Or sex for character’s origin. Say a warrior, young solider, during a war takes fancy to a enemies daughter and attempts to rape her, but is stopped by his father who is on the battlefield with him. Think of the plot of Thor, just darker

After all these years he’s still the best. No one else comes close not Tolkien, not Martin, no one. If you disagree, you just haven’t read his work deeply enough.

>>23940429
Are the other novels after 2001: space odyssey good?

>>23941445
I do not know who this nigga is

>>23941182
I like reading about insane people doing wacky shit, I like magic being somewhat uncommon, I like reading about epic battles being fought, I like when a story can build suspense, I like when there are well written mysteries being included into the story

>>23941182
I love magic schools. I love ancient pre-human civilizations. I like the feeling of a vast, mysterious world.

I hate it when there is a scene where one or more characters travel to the afterlife / underworld.

As for sex in fantasy, anymore I look for authors who don't shy away from sexual content. Maybe because I read so much sexless fantasy growing up, I find it kind of trite now. That said, I don't like it to be a focus of the books I read, I just appreciate it when the author doesn't hide it or avoid it. A sex scene doesn't have to be art, but it has to add something, even if it's just a nice dramatic break or some catharsis or even a humorous aside.

>>23941192
>it's not like I'm some sort of prude and I watch porn occasionally.
A misconception that people have about prudes is that they hate sex. Prudes don't hate sex, they're just ashamed of their sexual urges. They get uncomfortable with sex in media because to them it's mixing private and public spheres. Most prudes will insist "I don't care what people do in private" which is no different than what you're saying. All prudishness is rooted in a totally irrational separation of sex from every other facet of life.

>>23941182
I hate modern day shit in my fantasy.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FUCKING HATE VENLI AND NAVANI CHAPTERS

>>23941495
I think Wheel of Time guy.
I'm not sure how I feel about those books. I'm not sure if it's listening to the audiobooks that's making them less enjoyable (since the woman makes all the females sound like unattractive bitches, and both give many of the characters awful accents. (The Seanchan especially)), but I'm on book 9 and I've found them kind of mediocre so far. I like Rand, his harem, Lan and some other characters, but Nyneave, so many of the Aes Sedai, Seanchan, and the tribespeople (whos name Im blanking on) all are just pretty annoying for the most part.
I'm reading this Lord of Mystery webnovel by some random Chinese guy, and somehow enjoying that more than Wheel of Time.

>>23940429
Looking for a work of fantasy that heavily features crafting as the source of progression for the protagonist please.

>>23939413
>I'm sad to say it but Fury of the Gods was bad.
awww shit, that bad?

>>23941634
What’s going on in this webm? Guys renovating house find the trash stash spot of a secret drinker?

>>23941562
>Prudes don't hate sex, they're just ashamed of their sexual urges. They get uncomfortable with sex in media because to them it's mixing private and public spheres
Perhaps I am a prude then lol

>totally irrational separation of sex from every other facet of life.
Why is that irrational though.

>>23941652
Those are maple syrup bottles, which is even more confusing.

>>23941657
It’s Captain Morgan

>>23941598
The curse of all books with a shitload of different POVs. I like GoT, but I hate that it popularized that style of writing even more than it already was. When you're following 8 different characters there's no way you're gonna care about what's happening to more than, say, 4.

>>23940574
I don't understand this question

>>23941634
Winter of the World by Michael Scott Rohan. Protagonist is an apprentice blacksmith

gonna read web novel sloppa and you literally cannot stop me.

>>23941654
its not irrational. theyre just projecting.

>>23941666
>666
You win this round satan, i will check out your subversive literature

>>23941666
>>23941777
mmmm yummy numbers *crunch crunch*

What's the funniest fantasy book(s)? Dicworld?

I'm really enjoying the witcher. I finished time of Contempt. It was fun. I'm still a little lost on who exactly Falka is. Hopefully the explain more in the next books, and I didn't just completely misunderstand an early segment where she got brought up.

>>23941828
falka isn't all that important, except for the occasional times she gets brought up, iirc. i checked the witcher wiki and apparently there's more information given on her in a later book so i won't spoil it for you, unless you ask.
who do you think she is? also are you reading the english language versions or some translation?

>>23941812
Lyonesse trilogy

>Dicworld

Redpill me on Malazan. Worth putting an effort into it?

>>23941957
Well I'm biasec because it's my favorite fantasy series but I'd say so, yes.
It's big. But it's also deeply personal and intimate. It's got crazy shit like cyborg dinosaurs that live in flying hives or a master-servant duo based on Wooster & Jeeves. But it's also very serious about addressing the themes it chooses to pursue.
Malazan is a lot of things. Some of it is funny, some of it's horrifying, a lot of it is very confusing on an initial read through. Maybe you'll love it. Maybe you'll hate it. Maybe you'll be indifferent to it. No way to know. But I've read all of it and still want more.

>>23941967
thanks for rec. I borrowed the first one from the library so ill just start with it.
>cyborg dinosaurs
not a fan of mixing laser and sword but ill let it present itself to me and see how it goes.

>>23941182
I like atmosphere, interesting places and exploring. For example, I love Westeros because you can choose any place on its map and it would be a nice place to live (or at least to be a lord) there. If you like summer coastal storms (Stormlands), spooky castles (Harrenhal), grey sky and low clouds of coastal Norway (Iron Islands), Spanish summer (Dorne) or Northern woods (the Wall), you can find all those comfy place-tropes there at its best.

So, I like geo-romantic features of settings. Any recommendations?

*bes mogging the prose and/or verse of every other fantasy author in existence*

>>23941869
>They get too close, just hit’em with the Dragonslayer

Which books are as funny as Eyes of the Overworld and Cugel's Saga, by Jack Vance? In the same harsh, cynical way. These books spoiled me a bit

>>23941857
By Jack Vance? I like his other books but I don't find them as funny as the Cugel books. Didn't try Lyonesse yet.

>>23941544
you should read bakker
>>23942060
I don't think anythings gonna top Cugel but check out Tuf Voyaging I found it very funny

>>23942060
Lyonesse is both satirical/subversive but also weirdly earnest. I found the trilogy to be on par with Dying Earth in terms of quality, with the first book of Lyonesse to be better in a lot of ways.

>>23940825
>last book you read
2nd part of Botns
>current book you are reading
The heart of hell by wayne barlowe, but i've only started. The first book(God's demon) was quite nice and surprisingly positively inspiring considering the setting is literally hell.
>next book you plan to read
I'm open to recs but if i don't get anything im going to finish botns. I still crave archeology/exploration of ruins, dungeons etc in either fantasy or scifi setting. Playing TES growing up determined my taste in fiction and i can't get enough of the ayleid and dwemer aesthetic.

>>23940825
>>last book you read
dark universe - david galouye
>>current book you are reading
simulacron 3/the counterfit world - david galouye
>>next book you plan to read
probably more galouye. if i get bored i might do some horror, clive barker's books of blood is next on my list

anybody here read galouye? i liked dark universe, clever little book, wouldn't exactly say it's nebula award material but it was definitely creative in its description of sensory deprivation and nice and short. so far simulacron 3 has been better at grabbing me.

>>23940825
anon I love reading, and I unironically love /sffg/

>>23942150
>God's Demon
very based. this has been on a wishlist of mine for a while and I try to look for it in all the book stores I go to but can never find it. I don't know Barlowe at all but I imagine he's not too prolific. but anyway, haven't read it yet but I just did get To Reign in Hell by Brust which may be up your alley

>last book you read
Tombs of Atuan by le Guin. Almost as good as A Wizard of Earthsea. much darker in tone and more focused in setting, but Ged sailing around in book 1 is about as comfy as it gets
>current book you are reading
Void Star by Mason. modern sexy slick noir 2050's era LA and San Francisco cyberpunk.
>next book you plan to read
probably Barrayar by Bujold. I've been buying up all the Vorkosigan books when I find them, I must have 10 or so now. I have already read Shards of Honor which was fine, but I'm afraid once I really dig into the series I'll be consumed by it.

>>23940825
>last
Many more of the Great Ship novellas such as Poubelle; Good Mountain; The Man with the Golden Balloon (reread); Noumenon; Katabasis; Precious Mental; Kingfisher; Marrow Redux; The Speed of Belief; Flattering the Flame; Where You Have Been; and Who Carries the World.
The Dragons of Springplace (same author; standalone.)
>current
Book 4 of I Shall Seal the Heavens.
>next
Waiting for DCC 7 on Nov 11th.
Continuing to read ISSTH and I think I am out of newer Greatship stories at the moment - that I have access to anyhow.
Sword of Bayne author wrote a new trilogy in that same universe, after 10 years, so I want to check it out shortly too. Might be the final conclusion.

>>23941182
>Also for genuine curiosity, sex may not have belonged in say LOTR, but what about other types of stories like Pulp?
Sex can fit any type of story if it's executed well and fits the themes and plot.

>>23942240
>Tombs of Atuan by le Guin. Almost as good as A Wizard of Earthsea. much darker in tone and more focused in setting, but Ged sailing around in book 1 is about as comfy as it gets
I wish I had audiobooks of Earthsea that weren't read by that insufferable tryhard Harlan Ellison.
>probably Barrayar by Bujold. I've been buying up all the Vorkosigan books when I find them, I must have 10 or so now. I have already read Shards of Honor which was fine, but I'm afraid once I really dig into the series I'll be consumed by it.
I hope you enjoy it. For me, Borders of Infinity is peak. It ramps up nicely until then, and doesn't fall off too ridiculously sharply.

>>23942060
The fourth and fifth Demon Princes books are hilarious. The first three are less funny though.

Any news on the Canadian?

>>23942400
i always found harlan ellison's voice comfy from those short tv segments he did. of course that doesn't mean he's a good voice actor i guess. now that you mention it i think i stumbled upon an audioversion of i have no mouth and i must sneed read by him and just about died of cringe. but that might have been a different author idk.

>>23942515
Ellison voices AM in the PC game adaptation of I Have no Mouth and he's hilarous in his overacting

What's the name of that fantasy series where the pure waifu protagonist gets raped near the end?

You forgot the registered trademark on Harlan Ellison®.
https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=76268040&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch

Got these a couple days ago at the library book sale.

>>23942240
I tried reading Void Star earlier this year and just couldn't "hack" it. maybe I was too distracted or just not in the mood for sci-fi. Gotta try it again

>>23942650
I've never seen The Atlantic Abomination in the wild. Nice find.

When I finish my novel I am going to shill it in this thread and all of you will commend me on its quality.

>>23942650
good lad

>>23941634
You will have to go into the litrpg genre for that.
There is sentient dungeon core (Like Divine Dungeons by Dakota Krout)
Sponsored Apocalypse by Blaise Corvin
Runic Artist by Ellake
Department of Dungeon Studies by J Pal

How do we feel about Jeff Vandermeer? I liked the Southern Reach trilogy (haven't read the 4th book yet), enjoyed Bourne and Veniss Underground, but kind of hated Dead Astronauts.

>>23941634
doesn't Guy Gavirel Kay's books have many characters that are artists/architects? I have only heard that as I havn't read but would very much like to as soon as possible.

>>23941654
>Why is that irrational though.
What's rational about it? It's not rooted in any kind of logic. Prudes don't decide to feel ashamed of sexual urges after careful consideration of the facts, usually such feelings of shame are caused by the opposite situation: a person who has given no real introspection to their feelings and simply avoids discomfort by shunning what makes him uncomfortable.

>>23941777
t. prude

>>23942733
he's gay

>>23941634
The Carpet Makers maybe? I haven't read it yet, but it's on my list.

>>23942733
loved the first book to death, was bored to tears by the others
eerie larger than life mystery replaced by gay lighthouse keeper and office politics. wtf was he thinking? god damn.

>>23942650
extremely based. good job, son, making this anon proud.

>>23942733
painfully boring. agreed with >>23942807
I was actually excited for book 2 (office politics with a bunch of bureaucracy) but yeah it's just not worth your time. do not get your /sffg/ recommendations from NPR or the New York Times or whatever. if you must, read book 1 (it's not bad), watch the movie (it's also not bad), and be done with it.

>>23942671
yeah give it another go I'm digging it. his prose is a bit tough to chew on so for me at least I gotta re-read a little, but that's OK, I do enjoy it. anyway for me it's Cybernetic Sex Slime Transcendence

>>23942733
Veniss Underground and the Ambergris books are great

>>23941182
>like
magic that comes with a price
>hate
endless exposition of Places/People/Past Events masquerading as "world building"
dragons

>>23940869
>>23940909
I read some of the first book and stopped after he raped that poor woman for no reason. Why did he do it?

>>23942945
Because it was just a dream and his dick actually got hard after so long of being impotent, did you not read the words?

>>23942947
I've never raped anyone in my dreams, is it normal?

>>23941562
I hate sex in movies/television to the point where i normally fast forward it, even kissing. But i fap to depraved shit when i watch porn. I don't feel any shame about it, it's something else. I don't think you're hitting the nail on the head but it's getting me to reflect on this.

I think it might simply be because sex in a TV show or book is a waste of time. It doesn't move the plot forward, and it's too softcore to titillate our porn-rotted brains.

I do feel an amount of discomfort seeing people kissing in any context though, unless it's two women.

>>23941661
Is all fantasy like this? The only series i truly enjoyed was Farseer and it being first person the whole way probably had a lot to do with it. Multiple-pov just takes too long to get a payoff which is not even assured.

>>23942957
>I hate sex in movies/television to the point where i normally fast forward it, even kissing. But i fap to depraved shit when i watch porn. I don't feel any shame about it
You should

I've read some science fiction and think I have a decent understanding what science fiction is. I've never read fantasy. What is fantasy? Why do you like it? Why should I read it?

>>23942965
To what end?

I read fantasy to self insert but it's hard to do it when every single protag is an adonis

>>23940429
Wife is really into these after being recommended them by her cousin. What does /lit/ think of this series?

>>23943004
Its not really true Lord of the Rings has hobbits, asoiaf has an incel midget, Discworld has all sorts of protagonists, The First Law has Glokta etc

>>23943043
Forgot pic

>>23943049
it's coomer lit.

>We are a race of lovers.
Absolute cinema. How could anything compare?

>>23942945
In-universe: he was driven temporarily insane by his sudden return to sexual desire, helped by the fact that he was undergoing a psychological crisis caused by the dissonance between what he believed and what he was now perceiving to be true.
In reality: Stephen Donaldson loves rape.

>>23943125
fuck cats.

Is this Canadian Journey to the Centre of the Earth or Canadian The Other Side of the Mountain? Either way I'm liking it especially the author's fixation on death.

>Tfw no Almah wife

>>23941182
I fucking hate """lore"""

I don't care how detailed your setting is if the characters in it don't have an ounce of humanity.

>>23943125
>How could anything compare?
It can't. There is a reason why He is called King.

>>23943049
Is this the sex with fairies series? Are the fairies fairy sized?

Why doesn't The Storygraph list sapphic material under content warnings? It would save me so much time - no more going a few chapters into a novel and finding out the MC is a dyke

>>23943049
I asked a girl I work with about them, she says they're good but absolutely not for men. So I'll take her word for it and say no.

I appreciate Robert Jordan

Just finished Second Apocalypse. Really enjoyed it.

Any similar series? Any get that dark, existential and interesting?

Already read asoiaf, sanderslop, first law, memory sorrow & thorn,

Peeked at Malazan but i’ve never heard any great praise for it.

>>23943498
Yeah my wife has been giving me details as she reads and they seem pretty cliched but fun. Typical Beauty and the beast type shit. At least in the first book.

Rape and sexual assault scenes are absolutely necessary when adding tension or drama to a character and story.

>>23943612
Does Stephen Donaldson know that you're plagiarizing the emails he sends his editors?

>>23943612
SO true

Did John M. Ford write any fantasy worthwhile, beyond The Dragon Waiting and Aspects? They're both excellent, but everything else I can see he wrote was either science-fiction, Star Trek, or tabletop RPG supplements.

>>23942650
>Weapon Shops of Isher
respect.

>>23941634
The Magic of Recluce - MC does woodworking
The Magic Engineer - MC does blacksmithing

>>23941634
>>23942735
Sarantine Mosaic duology is about an artist, yes
One of the few times I've really enjoyed descriptive writing in any context
And it's not because I can't spin an apple in my head or whatever, most authors just kinda suck at it, like I couldn't get through more than one Wheel of Time book for the life of me and it's partially because Jordan's writing puts me to sleep

>>23941771
based. i will continue to consume harry potter fanfiction

>>23941634
Alvin Maker by Orson Scott Card

>>23940825
I just red The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress; I am currently in middle of A Brief History of the Vikings by Jonathan Clemens - it seems to be a pop-history piece, but appendix is nice.
My TBR pile is huge: I guess I'll move on to treatise on slave trade in Eastern Europe during the Middle Ages.

>>23940825
>last
City Beyond Time collection - Wright
>current
The Expanse #5 - Nemesis Games
>next
probably the expanse 6 unless something else peaks my fancy

>>23944196
*piques

>>23940429
Is it possible for new fantasy series to become successful anymore? If so, what determines it?

>>23944311
>If so, what determines it?
LUCK, BEING FAMOUS IN ANOTHER FIELD, OR JEWISH A FAMILY MEMBER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE AN EXECUTIVE AT A PUBLISHING HOUSE.

An aristocratic arcane bruiser from 2117's Russian Empire and an unhinged nudist pixie must master their newfound portal-opening ability to defeat a body-hopping cosmic horror.

Would you read the first chapter?

>>23944311
This >>23944316 but unironically. It's either being jewish or luck. It has always come down to luck but publishing right now is ass in terms of new and upcoming (male) authors so luck plays an even bigger part.

That being said, stay tuned for my magnum opus in about ten years. I'll remember you anons and make a publishing house

>>23943557
I don't care what anyone says, those first 3 WOT books are kino and if RJ had kept up that same pace for the rest of the series it'd be on my top 5 fantasy series.

Why do so many people hate this book. I thought it was pretty good.

Why is this being forced everywhere?

>>23944423
They hate the author because Daniel Green said he's not good or kind or something I don't know

>>23944449
>epic science fiction at its most genuinely epic
this is about the kind of quality writing you can expect from the authors of the expanse

>>23944449
I've never read it, but judging by the cover:
- Roman armor
- Faceless protagonist
- Lightsaber
- Assassin's Creed bracers
- Random straps and cloth
- Random LEDs
- "Blank of Blank - The Blank: Book One"
I'd be surprised if the book wasn't successful among the Reddit/BookTube crowd.

Can you guys recommend me something nice. preferably short, one shot novel so no sequels, prequels bullshit like that.

>>23944494
I picked it up because of BookTube... it was okay.

>>23944506
This checks all your boxes, chief.

>>23944450
>Daniel Green
i googled this fool and clicked on his review, first thing i saw was an obama poster in the background while he was signaling how much he hated the book
fucking kek i laughed so hard

>>23941182
Actually heroic heroes, actually villainous villains. Not waxing on and on about how killing is wrong. It's annoying in anime and it's annoying that modern fantasy writers don't understand that mad dogs need to be put down.

>>23944512
You watch book tube? Are you retarded?
>>23944518
Daniel green legitimately believes Robert Jordan is the greatest writer of all times.

>>23944522
i guess he's more based than it was previously apparent then

>>23944523
We all know Brandon Sandersoy is the greatest author of all time.

>>23944514
will check it out. sir

>>23944522
>book tube
I think Booktubers are a specific brand of cancer and not everyone who covers books is part of it.

>>23944526
funnily enough he finished jordan's series but will definitely not finish his own. i've never read him, but one time i looked into his works and he said he planned a 30 book series or some other complete nonsense. it's crazy to me that he can announce something like that when he was like 3 books in and people still willingly pick up his stuff

>>23943245
>Humanity
I'm reporting you to re**it you xenophobe!

>>23944540
At the rate Sanderslop comes out, he's definitely finishing it. During the coof lockdowns he just churned out a bunch of new books on top of the ones he had planned. His autism allows him to type hours and hours a day for years without getting tired of it.
It's a shame he sacrifices quality for it, thoughever

>>23944522
>legitimately believes Robert Jordan is the greatest writer of all times.
Plenty of people ITT believe <generic 'A-list' author> is the greatest of all time. That faggot would fit in well here, in a sea of no-reading newfaggotry.

>>23944590
>Brandon is definitely finishing it!
>That's why he writes more non-related content on top of it all!!
oof
wrongest newfag in the thread today

>>23944615
>non-related content
His YA stuff?

>>23944674
That, plus more and more random Cosmere one-offs ironically. Like Tress and his other Secret Project shit.

>>23944613
come on now, this general can't be that bad if luminaries such as yourself are here

>>23944423
I only read one of the books out of order 25 years ago, but I thought it was good.
Something about a chicken that wasn't a chicken. The TV show ruined the series.

>>23941644
Why can't I find that shit anywhere?

Actually good sff:
>The Time Machine
>Conan
>The Hobbit
>Titus Groan
>The Broken Sword
>The Stars My Destination
>The End of Eternity
>Solaris
>Dune
>Lord of Light
>A Wizard of Earthsea
>The Knight of the Swords
>Swords and Deviltry
>The Forever War
>The Shadow of the Torturer
>Fevre Dream
>Neuromancer
>Bridge of Birds
>Ender's Game
>Assassin's Apprentice
>A Game of Thrones
>The Darkness That Comes Before
>Black Leopard, Red Wolf
>Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
>Berserk
>Lovecraft's Tales of Horror and the Macabre
>Borges Labyrinths
>Dick's Selected Short Stories
>The Jack Vance Treasury
>John Crowley's Otherwise
>The Very Best of Fantasy and Science Fiction Sixtieth Anniversary Anthology
>The Oxford Book of Science Fiction

>>23944737
The TV show that literally no one remembers. Either way it can’t be as bad as Amazons Wheel of Time show.

Terry Goodkind’s work transcends mere fantasy; it is a profound exploration of human philosophy, morality, and individualism. Where others dabble in dragons and spells, Goodkind elevates the genre into a study of the human condition itself. His Sword of Truth series isn’t just a story, it’s a manifesto of intellect, courage, and existential truth. Goodkind doesn’t cater to the whims of conventional fantasy, he redefines the genre around the pillars of rational thought and moral absolutism. Frankly, to call him the best fantasy author is an understatement. Goodkind is the only author truly deserving of the title.


End blog post

>>23944864
Can Goodkind get anymore based?

>>23944839
>Either way it can’t be as bad as Amazons Wheel of Time show.
I agree. In the tally of good vs. bad adaptations of genre fiction, I think we should split the bad column into at least two possibly three categories:
Bad because bad: Legend of the Seeker, Dresden Files, The Witcher.
Bad because DEI: WoT, RoP, probably more I don't even bother watching anymore.
Bad because CW-slop: Any CW show, The Magicians, I really just created this category for The Magicians.

>>23944885
why not put the witcher in the second category, what sets it apart from wheel of niggers and niggers of power?

>>23944954
IDK, I mostly had it on in the background and it didn't seem too bad in that sense. It might belong in the 2nd category after all, I'm not an expert.

>>23944967
just look at Triss, and like half of the sorceresses
race changing existing characters in such a medieval europe inspired setting is retarded in the first place and then it's not even hot black chicks

>>23944873
that is neither good nor is it kind, what a jerk

>>23944873
>Hm, this person is competition so he must be bad
>dies
>gets dabbed on by the competition not dying

>>23941445
go back reddit nigger

>>23945000
Just a little banter, mate.

>>23944381
>unhinged nudist pixi
i'm in

>>23944423
book 2 is even better, the first 4 are all decent
>>23944737
chicken that's not a chicken is book 5

>>23942671
>I tried reading Void Star earlier this year and just couldn't "hack" it.
It's not your fault. The prose is absolute garbage.

>>23944449
I'm about halfway through the series, and the first book is the worst. The story gets progressively better starting with the second.

>>23944423
The first few are average genreslop, then it starts getting insanely preachy.

>>23944969
>race changing existing characters .. is retarded
please pass this message to Wizards of the Coast

>>23945202
well he WUZ a KANG afterall

>>23945202
Nerds and Neckbeards are spineless, cuckold slop-hogs. At my LGS, we have a lefty, college city where if you said anything bad about the Race-Swaps for the LOTR set you were essentially out-casted. These fuckers were scum, talking about stealing from people and the clientele was often a few dudes in dresses. I ended up leaving that one for another, tired of wearing a mask for a bunch of toxic faggots and troon-squad members.

I found another an hour away. They ate up the set. It was mediocre and they spent so much on it. I think it was the covid boom, but I know people who spend their whole check on slop products. These people are addicts for poorly made paper.

The story wasn’t fucking well done, but they had things like Urza, Mishra and the Phyrexians. Then the whole of that saga was wrapped up with a Deus Ex Wakanda Extravaganza. Vorinclex loses his head, Urabrask becomes a simp and is cut up, Jin-Gitaxias is crushed by a tank, Sheoldread is cucked by Norn and Norn gets taken out by a Dyke Angel.

Fuck it all…

>>23945309
>Nerds and Neckbeards are spineless, cuckold slop-hogs.
When it's attached to a competitive game where people have thousands of dollars in sunken cost, it's easier for these companies to get a pass from their paypigs.
GW just has to release a new OP codex with grrl power Astartes, and the neckbears can buy it or start losing to it.
WotC can print OP cards with race swapped characters, and you can either play those cards or lose to them.
I paid $5 to $20 for whatever book I'm reading. If Amazonflix casts all the characters of my medieval European fantasy slop as blacks, then I can simply not watch. It doesn't change anything about the book I already own.

>>23944423
It’s a good children’s series, but it gets kind of gay towards the end. Just how obsessed with one woman can a dude be? You’re like 12 books in and the only reason the wizard gets a power up is his woman gets stolen for like the 6th time. Like fuck man just put a bell on her or something.

I feel like there's a serious opportunity to use Greek Myth. Modern generations don't read classics, they won't know what you're doing.

>>23945377
You can rewrite Shakespeare, be upfront about it, and people will say what a smart writer you are. It's been done to death.

>>23945381
I'm just trying to help niggas in here who want to make money at writing fiction.
Done to death doesn't matter. If you make money from it, I could care less. Modern audiences are retards. If you want to write literary fiction to crowds of like a dozen tops and be completely original, that is your own business.

How does /sffg/ feel about Lord of a Shattered Land? Modern Sword and Sorcery return to form? Or overrated slop?

>>23945336
Yeah, I get that and it all tracks. People can Proxy and Print to solve much of this, granted they’ll be banned from Tourney play, but the competitive scene of anything nerd-like is a joke.

Formats and One Page rules are solutions as well.

It’s just the low-impulse control of these people and the faggotry of things that astounds me.

>I paid $5 to $20 for whatever book I'm reading. If Amazonflix casts all the characters of my medieval European fantasy slop as blacks, then I can simply not watch. It doesn't change anything about the book I already own.

I’ve been hunting down the works of Robert Howard and much of his stuff is out of print in my area and I’ve heard word of “Revisions” done to make things less problematic. The first conan collection ran me 35. I was happy to pay it for an original, but still it is kind of gay.

As for the retcons and race swaps, nothing is going to get better in my opinion. People will either make new stuff or go to the old. I’ve accepted that.

It was more bringing the fact that most nerds don’t even really care about the stuff they like. Just dopamine rushes

>>23943591
Check out Blindsight or Starfish. Although they are sci-fi Watts satisfies a similar itch as Bakker.

>>23945202
>>23945309
speaking of MtG I enjoyed the Arena novel

>>23945478
I’ll end up getting them at some point. Too focused on Conan collecting right now. I tried to listen to the lore channels but I hate their voices.

Ever read Dragon Lance by chance?

>>23945511
I just finished Conan. Pretty good but not as good as Mistborn or Stormlight.

What do people think of Neil Gaimon?

I’m afraid to look into it for the potential bullshit surrounding the guy. Him being a tool specifically

>>23945621
American Gods was a pretty good book, and Sandman might be my favorite comic of all time. Good Omens was definitely also something I read - it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great, either.

>>23945621
Boring hack.

>>23945666
Neil Gayman is the greatest writer of the past couple of decades.

>>23945511
I read the War of the Lance Trilogy I was 10. I remember walking to the shitty mall nearby to get them from Barnes & Noble or some place.
The teenagers working there definitely laughed at me, but I'm not sure if it's because of what I was reading or the fact that I stared at the Madonna Sex book for an hour.
>>23945621
I've enjoyed everything I've read by him. The fact that he's a male feminist sex pest doesn't bother me, nor does it surprise me.
I hope that getting called out on his ick factor will improve him as a writer.

>>23945651
>>23945666
>>23945714
>>23945744

Just been watching American Gods and thought to check the book out. I wasn’t a fan of how Odin was depicted in GoWR, but from what little I’ve saw the show didn’t piss on Odin like GoW did.

>>23945714
If we're talking spec-fiction, it's Bakker and not even remotely close.

Lol Mike's book reviews is getting called out for pirating books cause of something with the ereader pic of fury of the gods he posted

My wife was going on about how sleazy Gaiman is supposed to be. I googled it and his #metoo'ing/heinous perveted act? Having consensual sex with a 19 year old woman.

>>23945744
>I'm not sure if it's because of what I was reading or the fact that I stared at the Madonna Sex book for an hour.
Kekaroo

>>23945788
Hell, in the modern era, if a man has sex with a woman younger than him he's practically a pedo.
Gaiman is an asshole but he's not a rapist.

Mating press with Serwa!

>>23943746
love that guy

>>23944540
Anon, he's like 25 books into his series now. What do you mean he's not going to finish it?

>>23944615
The first two and last two are correct, the rest are pure silliness.

Novels like the Wizard Knight and Three Hearts Three Lions? You know, about knights going around questing and finding impossible things.

>>23945400
All I know about it is that it gets pushed pretty aggressively by the Kindle algorithm if it thinks you like Sword & Sorcery

>>23945780
Aspect Emperor 1 and 2 were absolute kino and based on those I'd agree, but 3 and 4 are crap and you kind of need to read Lord of Nothing first which is passable at best. Overall I'd say he's a 6/10, maybe 7 if I'm feeling generous.

>>23945845
Amber
The Dark is Rising Sequence

>>23945621
Kneel Gayman
lol

Ok /sffg/ your job is to name one (1) fantasy character better characterized than Boromir

>>23945621
Neverwhere is great. Sandman is really good. Rest of his stuff is fun at the least.
Not bad but not one of the greats

>>23945621
his writing has a repellant smug quality

>>23945621
Gene Wolfe wrote a book dedicated to Gayman that was a better gayman book than gaymans

>>23945871
Oberon from A Midsummer Night's Dream.

>>23945871
Conan the Cimmerian

CS Lewis Space Trilogy is the perfect book for this general, as it combines both fantasy and science fiction. On top of that, there is a section where CS Lewis gangbangs HG Wells wife in front of him and that is pretty based.

>>23945621
>What do people think of Neil Gaimon?
He lost the plot, but his older stuff is good. Keep in mind he was always progressive. Hell, it would've taken real balls to adapt the Sandman some 20 years ago. Adaptation we got came across as quaint because the entire world has gotten a lot crazier since.

>>23946209
>He lost the plot
why does this seem to regularly happen to writers? burnout?

>>23946209
damn look at all those ugly niggers. fucking hell

>>23945902
What book is this, comrade?

>>23946209
>absolute gigachad Lucifer now looks like a fucking goblin

>>23943591
>Peeked at Malazan but i’ve never heard any great praise for it.
really? for years everyone loved it and wouldn't stop recommending it. its not really grimdark and pretty progressive but some great war moments. read black company and if you like that squad based characters + monstrously powerful magic users you'll like malazan.

shadow of the torturer is closer to Second Apocalypse but again less grimdark

is Horus Heresy worth it? i know nothing of 40k but i liked spacer marine 2 and the aesthetic but 64 books is a lot

>>23946356
no if you know nothing it's not worth it. these books are hit or miss if you're familiar with the universe, can't imagine there's much to be gotten out of them when you know nothing. if you want to get into 40k just start looking up bits of lore that gets mentioned in the game on the wiki or lexicanum and graduate to books in a year's time if you're still interested.
there are some small self contained books that are set in 40k but only require superficial knowledge of the setting. off the top of my head you can try lord of night and pawns of chaos

>>23946209
Him and people like Moore always seemed to come across as enlightened psueds, but are just as singular as other faggots
>>23946216
I think artists are just generally fucking bonkers
>>23946286
It wasn’t enough to ape up redheads, but goths now too. Death was based of a friend from some of his interviews and he had the balls to say the show stuck to his principles.

>>23946356
Horus Heresy is essentially a massive origins story that will miss a lot of the marks unless you're already familiar with 40k as a setting. You can enjoy it on its own. One saving grace is you can probably pick about a dozen novels that are worth reading without subjecting yourself to all of them.

>>23946216
Younger, inexperienced writers work closely with editors who help keep them in check. The bigger you get the less you need to listen to your editors. Bloated heads and no oversight leads to garbage work.
Many such cases!

Finished Lord Foul's Bane. It was pretty good. Definitely carried by the protagonist and world building. The story was just budget Lord of The Rings and the only character other than Covenant I gave half a shit about was Stoneheart Foamfollower, the rest were just blank faces to me. I'm gonna continue the series though.

>>23946356
Gaunts Ghosts is better as a starting point imo. It does a decent job immersing you in the world without overloading you with lore.

>>23946590
How come there's so many people reading Thomas Covenant right now? You're like the third person to bring this up

>>23946356
>>23946511
>that decline in art style

>>23946356
Read the Eisenhorn Omnibus instead, it is a much better starting point if you know very little about 40k. Once you understand 40k better you can go back to the Horus Heresy, but the trick with the Heresy novels is to read the first 5 books (Horus Rising, False Gods, Galaxy in Flames, The Flight of the Eisenstein, and Fulgrim) then after that only read books that are well reviewed or sound interesting to you because the majority of them are bad. In particular, I would recommend book 19 "Know no Fear" but once again, you should become more familiar with 40k before trying to read any of the Horus Heresy books so they don't fall flat.
>t. a fa/tg/uy

I'm creating a fantasy story in which everything can be recycled, including people.

I'm curious on how this might change people's views on society, but I don't think I'm smart enough to figure it out.

>>23946755
onions green is reincarnation

>>23946769
>onions
lol cant say so -ylent. lib mods really are mind fucked

>>23946286
>>23946505
What gets to me isn't the raceswaping of Death, it's that they raceswaped her but kept Dream the same even though they're supposed to be twins.

>>23946307
NTA, but it's The Sorcerer's House.

>>23946788
I can almost assure you that someone at Netflix said they need at least one of them to be Blacked and they went with what they thought was the safer option.

“Do we turn the MC into a black or this goth bitch?”

“Hmmmmmm.”

>>23946795
Seems like a pretty cool set-up for a story

>want to read smut
>no one writes shit that turns me on
Many such cases...

>>23946865
Tell us your desires anon... perhaps I have something behind the curtain that might inspire you.

>>23946865
That's the problem with having extremely niche fetishes that you have to commision others to write.

This is the best Fantasy novel of all time.

>>23946346
>Black Company
can the first book be read as standalone? I just don't really want to read a whole series..

>>23946956
Yes. It has an open ending.

>>23946600
People talking about it are getting others interested in reading it, I guess. I'm on The One Tree and looking forward to finally going to a different location.

>>23946947
Umm, sweetheart? You're cheating. That's two novels.

>>23945651
>my favorite comic of all time.
How old are you?

>>23946871
Protagonist is reborn as a monster and fucks lots of pretty women, but everything is consensual and no dumb shit like submission or whatever.
Kinda like fantasy bestiality

>>23947039
I take it human protag fucking monstergirls doesn't do it for you?

>>23946958
is it tru there's a child gangrape or was i memed

>>23947050
No, I've read way too many monster girl shit already
Even car girls

>>23947074
>car girls
Fucking transformers?

>>23947051
People focus too much on an implied scene and then postulate the entire series to be GRIMDARK based on it.

Are there any good fantasy books with the Mature Work, Child Protagonists trope? Like Alice in Wonderland but not a children's books.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MatureWorkChildProtagonists

>book is 90% medieval/space politics 10% actual fantastical/scifi elements

>>23947037
Do you want to know for a reason or are you being passive aggressive?

What are you faggots reading?

>>23947211
Books

>>23947187
The Expanse. I fell for this meme hard

>>23947211
Wheel of Time

>>23947211
Reading The Power that Preserves. I'm one of the Covenant readers and recommend it to others as well.
After the First Chronicles I'm switching to Tad Williams' Bobby Dollar trilogy though

>>23947187
Sci-fi and fantasy elements are tools to facilitate interesting interpersonal drama, not something that should be the focus itself.

>>23947321
>not something that should be the focus itself
kys faggot

>>23945830
4 is subjective but with hindsight, he is 100% running a business > writing 4 fun.
3 and 5 are completely in the right. Warbreaker and Elantris sequels have been promised since the 2000s and here we are with absolutely nothing. Sanderson isn't going to read this, bro.

>>23947181
Assassin's Quest and Kushiel's Dart come to mind. I'm trying to think of more and the thing that's tripping me up is the "mature work" half. So much of the genre is either YA or YA-adjacent.

>>23946782
how new are you. be honest.

>>23947211
The White-Luck Warrior

>>23947321
I honestly agree. Anathem is the best scifi novel of all time.

>>23947432
>3 and 5 are completely in the right. Warbreaker and Elantris sequels have been promised since the 2000s
He's stated several times that the Warbreaker sequel has to wait because it has too many spoilers for the other series, same reason Dragonsteel is back burnered. Pretty sure the reason the Elantris sequel is on hold is because there's zero interest in it. The first book was crap, easily the worst work by a notorious slop peddler. People would rather have new Stormlight books than have to go back and reread that piece of shit to prepare for the sequel.

He's pretty honest about when books are delayed or discarded due to a lack of inspiration, like Silence Divine.

>>23947211
I'm reading Crossroads of Twilight but I'm on the Elayne chapters and I just can't find the strength to push through. Last month I was hoping to finish the series before next year but that's pretty unlikely now.

i am yet again asking
no-god series, when?

>>23947704
It's okay to skip CoT honestly, it doesn't get better. Just read the summaries and move on to Knife of Dreams.

I finished reading A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine.
For some reason I expected a space opera full of political intrigue and cool mysteries to be solved by a young woman thrown head first into a largely unknown civilization, and as it turns out there's some of the last parts in there, but it's not a space opera in the slightest and most mysteries are solved quite early on, the author making it abundantly clear when they are, with the plainest parts of a dull prose and and the most unimaginative parts of dull poetry.
The protagonists are clearly the most intelligent human beings in the whole known space, and obstacles are just a matter of minutes when they put their minds to them, so starting from a certain point the everything seems trivial, and thankfully the story is engaging for the most part, otherwise I would have dropped it shortly after the halfway point.
I've seen this book being praised for its handling of themes such as the self, language and colonialism, but you'd have to be an american to think this writing is anything other than shallow.
In the end the story was barely interesting enough to make me finish it, and I knew by two thirds of the way through that I won't read the sequel.

What even is a good, modern space opera?
The only one I can think of is Against a Dark Background by Iain M. Banks.

>>23947710
I might just have to do that honestly. I thought the slog was kind of a meme by Path of Daggers but I was starting to really feel it by Winter's Heart.
I'm just glad it's supposedly over.

>>23947718
Have you tried Honor Harrington?

>>23947725
I've not as I had gotten the impression from reading reviews here and there that it's another bundle of clichés, and not really what i'm looking for.
Is it actually good?

>>23946356
Just read the Dan Abnett books

>>23947764
It really hooked me in the beginning as a western equivalent of LOGH, but it just kept going and going, with Honor always escaping from increasingly ludicrous situations, and I eventually dropped the series. The world is far more interesting than the story it tells.

>>23941634
Industrial Strength Magic by Macronomicon
It was okay for me, but he gets stronger by making stuff out of trash, then having people use it.

>>23947334
This

>in green's jungles
>almost entirely on blue
Very funny you fat pervert.

recommend me a sci-fi series with good characters

>>23947718
So what is this book even about? I've seen it praised too and I was a bit interested in the setting, but I don't want to waste my time on something subpar.

>>23947718
You wouldn't have expected that if you read the /sffg/ reviews.

>>23948059
NTA. A lady with a fetish for the culture of Space China/US is appointed ambassador to said country after the previous ambassador is murdered.
As is custom in Shitholistan, she gets the memories/personality of her predecessor implanted into her brain. But the memories and personality are 10 years out of date.
She has to figure out what happened to the last ambassador and not let Space China/US figure out that she has illegal brain modifications. All while keeping Shitholistan from being annexed or something.

Can anyone recommend a story where the female MC is dressed in skimpy clothing for most of the story (e.g. bikini armor, courtesan dress, etc)?

Dungeon Crawler Carl 7 is out for at least 8 hours (a week early) and it's not up anywhere. What the FUCK

I've never really read any fantasy but a friend told me years ago that Discworld is good, thoughts?

>>23948670
Try the sub-series about the City Watch. "Guards! Guards!" is the first book in it.

>>23948676
Any reason why I should read this over Discworld first?

>>23948681
There is no book called Discworld lol

>>23948688
You know what I mean...

>>23948697
Guards! Guards! is a Discworld novel. Read it or don't.

>>23948046
>Yes, I'll tell you all about what happened on Green. But first, how about a hundred pages of a story contest.
WOLFED

>>23948699
Just looked through the Discworld chart and saw that there's a book called Hogfather, I think that sounds cool so I think I'll start with the Death novels.

>>23948720
Hogfather is pretty good, it was even adapted into a movie

>>23947707
when winds of winter and doors of stone come out

>>23948783
WREEEEEEEE

>>23947707
Anon.... I.....I'm losing faith in our King...

>>23947718
>What even is a good, modern space opera?
peter f hamilton is the only one who writes anything deserving the description of "space opera". the good description i mean, not the soap opera in space one.

>>23948681
Sub-series are connected pretty weakly. And some series are more felicitous than other ones. The starting series is rather mediocre.

>>23947211

The Time machine H.G. Wells. Intriguing story

I first read the mistborn trilogy after not reading for many years (minus the odd book here and there) and it got me excited about reading again. My plan was to read the prince of nothing and then go back to sanderson for the stormlight archives. Now I am halfway done the thousandfold thought and don't think I could get through mistborn quality books. I heard stormlight is much better though. Is this still a good plan? I want to take a break from bakker before reading the second series. Maybe wheel of time is a good next step instead? Although brandon sanderson finished those, so he must have improved a lot right?

>>23949004
Read malazan after bakker to work your way back down to sanderson. First two stormlight books are good.

Opinions on the faithful and the fallen? I’ve heard nothing but praise for it, but i’m struggling to get through this first book. I just finished a dance with dragons so I guess the step down is giving me whiplash.

>crack open a new fantasy book
>mana
>in the trash it goes

>>23949093
amateur and mediocre
once stuff finally starts happening in the back half of the book it's fast paced for the rest of the series. but none of the other writing aspects improve

>>23947199
How old are you?

>>23947718
>The protagonists are clearly the most intelligent human beings in the whole known space, and obstacles are just a matter of minutes when they put their minds to them
"Women of color; They know how to get the job done!: The Novel"
Anyone here could've told you that and save yourself a lot of time.

>>23947718
>What even is a good, modern space opera?
Sun Eater

>>23949098
Manama dudududuu

>>23949069
Look interesting, ill probably do that. Why are leafs so good at writing fantasy?

heading on a couple road trips with the wife this month. any recommendations for good audiobooks to listen to while driving?

>>23949098
Any terms used with a meaning stemming from gaming instantly dries my literary cooch. It shouldn't be too much to ask to read a book before writing one.

>>23949341
>it's dark out
>it's cold out
>nothing to do but look inward and imagine a different place to be

>>23949421
Mana is a spiritual concept of the Maori people. It's not all that different from chakra, chi/ki, soul, aura, and other related concepts.

>>23949004
Aspect Emperor 1+2 >>>> Wheel of Time >>> Stormlight 1+2 > Prince of Nothing > Mistborn 1 > Stormlight 3 > Aspect Emperor 3+4 > Mistborn 2+3 >>> Stormlight 4

Take it how you will.

I once read a book, but I can not remember the name. It was about a kid being kidnapped and raised by these Amazonian blue/purple aliens and falling in love with one. I remember the kidnapping took place in a cornfield/wheatfield on another planet. The kid was in orphanage for war orphans. If anyone knows the title, please tell me.

>>23949574
Sounds maybe vaguely familiar, is there anything else you can recall? Anything about the writing style or even the colors of the cover? How long ago would you have read it and was the book already old at the time?

Do you think my wife and parents would be offended if I dedicated my first novel to my cat?

>>23949902
I laughed, but no, unless they're really self-centered or you made them think you'd dedicate it to them.

>>23949642
honestly that's all I got. I think it came out around 2011. I'm only here because I've looked everywhere else.

>>23941102
wot book, I NEED to know

>>23949994
The Night Land

>>23947774
>the western equivalent of LOGH
Does that strike you, based on my review, as something I would like?
>>23949132
>>23948790
Thank you for your input.
>>23948094
>>23949129
>you should have come look for our opinion first and foremost
I wanted to read level headed opinions.

I'm looking for The Invincible by Lew. Does anyone have a Kindle link?

>>23950022
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/1029811-sffg?book_id=37794149
These aren't? On multiple pages.

This book is the goat, my dudes.

>crack open a new fantasy book
>womana
>in the trash it goes

>>23950237
The Sandersonite CRETINS have come out of the woodwork to defend their indulgent drivel. I don't care about the CRABS or the PLANTS or your DUMB MAP when your characters have no spark of humanity and only exist so they can FLY AROUND AND FIGHT. Authors worthy of the name can draw real human tragedy from just 20 pages of two people talking in a room; the modern fantasy "author" can't provide a glimpse of humanity from 1000 PAGES of the most APOCALYPTIC CLASH of GOOD AND EVIL. I recently attempted to get through book one of Sanderson's "epic" Stormlight saga, and was FLOORED when he had to represent how characters feel by MAGICAL EMOTION FAIRIES because he was UNABLE to convey it through BELIEVABLE DIALOGUE. THIS IS THE MAN WHO HAS THE MOST POPULAR LECTURE ON WRITING ON YOUTUBE. It is no wonder that today's young fantasy writers think CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT is synonymous with "LEVELING UP". World-building represents the D&Dification of the Fantasy genre. The focus foremost on setting rather than character, prose, plot, or theme, can only be explained by the influx of AUTISTIC sons of 35 year old mothers who cannot understand or conceptualize human emotions or relations, and can't write for shit. BRANDON SANDERSON has destroyed an entire generation of writers, along with VIDEO GAMES, ANIME and AUTISM. It should be no surprise that the current trend in the genre are so-called "LitRPGs"--a derivative of ISEKAI, D&D, and VIDEO GAMES, because these stunted shut-ins have no exposure to the world beyond the mediated glow of their computer screens and the musky back rooms of tabletop gaming centers. MAGIC SYSTEMS are the product of STEM AUTISM and are completely irrelevant to anything that makes a story worth reading. The entire genre has become one big MALADAPTIVE DAYDREAM. The only solace is that fantasy is falling into such disrepute that it can safely be consigned to the same bin as YA fiction and romance slop.

>>23950243
My wife’s boyfriend loves Brandon Sanderson

>>23950237
I can't remember what happened between the first and last 3 chapters.

>>23948790
>peter f hamilton is the only one who writes anything deserving the description of "space opera"
lol you normalfags are all so embarrassing

>I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream...
>Fuck, that's deep. I should write that down...

>>23949574
chatgpt was made for this kind of inquiry

>>23950243
this wall of truth had best become a pasta