/lit/ - Literature

>>23909317
The full yearbook page.

Some other (older) pics of Ligotti for reference.

There was actually another Thomas Ligotti going to Berkley High School around the same time (Berkley, Michigan). But I don't think it was him. This dude looked like a caveman jock.

Didn't save his pics.

It is a genuinely sad thought to imagine a younger Ligotti that seems to somewhat enjoy life, or at least enough to muster a bit of a smile. I wonder what happened to the poor guy to make him so miserable.

>>23909383
Pretty sure in a few interviews he admitted he drank and did a lot drugs in his youth in a desperate attempt to feel some pleasure (He does suffer from anhedonia).

>>23909317
Sweet find! Tom's looking sharp.

>>23909317
One year older than my dad

>>23909420
Yeah but that shit has a root cause

I don't give a fuck about that.

>>23909317
Thomas Ligotti? More like Thomas LIGMA!

>>23909550
schizoaffective disorder/MDD

I remember back in the day we used to call him Thomas "Crazy Tommy" Ligotti cause he was so crazy haha. Glad to see he's doing alright for himself.

>>23909317
Walled at 18 just like me

>>23909324
I’d be a doomer with William MacDonald having all that prime sliz while I’m here being Italian and barely getting past Leontaras’ first base

>>23909317
>>23909326
looks like a match, you found him

lotta wops in that hs class

>>23909317
Faggot I want to suck your dick for this. Thank you for posting this anon.

Now we have to find out if Ligotti is virgin or not.

>>23909383
>>23909420
Ligotti said that he was a normalfag until his teenage. He was the one to use knock at doors to gather boys to play hockey on the street. He use to shoot shit with his friends and hang around dope houses. Then at some point he had a bad trip(not sure if he said this or i am making shit up) after which he suffered his first panic-anxiety attack and he stopped getting pleasure from drugs. So then he looked for other ways of escapism like music, reading, movies etc.

There is one very sharp biographical detail though, Ligotti said he use to watch every horror film in the theater when he was a kid.

>>23909317
Can you please find a photo from his collage?

I really think that Ligotti would have been a 4channer

>>23910128
>Now we have to find out if Ligotti is virgin or not.

Feel like Ligotti is such a nihilist because he has had sex but even that didn’t give him pleasure.

>>23909317
Lifting could have saved him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xZQ0YZ7ls4

>>23910438
He said he fell in love one time and he is not going to repeat that retarded nonsense, kek. So yeah most probably not a virgin. I wonder if his dick still works after taking the cocktail of drugs for his mental health. Probably too high IQ for sex.

>>23910463
Roidtrannies are miserable. Ligotti is 71 and he has outlived majority of roidtrannies. You should have said a true sport like mountain climbing(see Zapffe). But Ligotti is a shaman of the arcane and fantastic worlds. A noramlfag would go insane if he knew as much as Ligotti. He is one the most critically acclaimed writer right now. So he needs no saving retard.

>>23909317
Yeah I’m pretty sure you found him.

The lips, cheekbones, and nose seem to match up>>23909330
>>23909326

>>23909317

>>23911213
Ligotti is Polish plus Italian. Anton is Spanish so clearly Ligotti's Med ancestry is showing.

Bruno Schulz(Polish)+Dino Buzzati(Italian)=Ligotti(Polish+Italian)

What's your favorite Ligotti story from Songs of a Dead Dreamer/Grimscribe?

>>23911274
I listen to random Ligotti stories on Youtube. So few days ago I listened to Mrs. Rinaldi's Angel and it blew me away. Ligotti really really went in man. What a shaman. I was flying in the intoxication of that story for a day or two.

I really want to hear Andrew Leman's take on Ligotti.

What about you anon?

>>23909317
submit it to his wikipedia page so it gets archived properly

>>23909317
Nice work anon

Okay, who is this?

>>23911534
some twitter subhuman attention faggot who stole shit from here without giving credit to OP?

>>23909317
Grosse Pointe is such a fetid hole.

>>23911721
What's it like? I heard its supposed to be the nice suburb of Detroit.

Is it so bad that it explains why Ligotti the way he is?

>>23910520
You don't have to take roids to get a pump. Non-sequitar. If you don't lift heavy you don't know what pleasures your body can give you.

>>23909317
He kinda looked like Matthew McConaughey here

>>23909317
It’s so weird that someone with a summer birthday would hate life.

>>23909550
Yeah it's called being born on to this earth.

>>23909324
>highschoolers then look 30 years old
>highschoolers now look 10 years old
What happened

>>23911762
kek

>>23911546
>without giving credit to OP
Back to r*ddit, you updoot whore

>>23912645
Everyone smokes and drinks less now.

>>23912628
Go smoke some weed

>>23912645
I’d say he looks about the same as my friend in high school.

>>23912645
I think it's mostly the way they put themselves together. They're wearing suits and no one wears those hairstyles anymore.

>>23912706
Yeah what’s the name of Ligotti’s hairstyle here? It looks like something you’d only see in the 70’s.

>>23912661
kill yourself twitter troon

>>23913111
it was back for a bit in the early 2000s

OP again, went into the archive again and found this.

Ligotti bros, you won’t like this…

(It’s his sophomore year picture from 1969)

Also, here’s a pic of another Tom Ligotti who went to the nearby Berkeley, MA High School.

I don’t think it’s our Tom Ligotti, because he looks like a caveman.

>>23913664
*Berkley, Michigan I mean

>>23913663
Normal looking dude, did drugs with the guys there, lost virginity to Nancy, found out she was fucking John on the side, had horrible acid trip and some decaded later we get Conspirscy against the Human Race

>>23909317
He was a chad, looks like Matthew McConaughey in Dazed and Confused. He was a poser all along.

>>23912645
They all look young, you just think they look old because of how they’re dressed.

>>23913663
Digging that haircut on the Loafman.

Did any of you guys read post on his fan site describing the time he went the hospital because he was suffering from stomach problems and having to convince the EMT it wasn't overdose?

>>23910520
>He said he fell in love one time and he is not going to repeat that retarded nonsense
There is some wisdom in him after all

>>23914598
Yeah I remember that lol

The EMT thought he was a drug addict and instead of paying the hospital bill, he wrote a strongly worded letter to the hospital that he wouldn’t pay the bill due to how he was treated.

Are there any oldfags here who can describe what going to high school was like in the 1970’s?

Found this, confirms he went to the high school OP mentioned:

>American short story writer and poet. >One of the most prominent exponents of classic weird fiction.
>Thomas Ligotti was born in 1953, a second-generation American of predominately Sicilian heritage. Brought up a Roman Catholic, Ligotti had rejected the doctrines of the church by his late teens. After habitual use of drugs and alcohol in the late 1960s, he suffered the onset of a lifelong chronic anxiety-panic disorder in August 1970. The following year he graduated from Grosse Pointe North High School.
>Ligotti began to write fiction in college. He was awarded a BA degree in English from Wayne State University (Detroit) in 1978. Around this time he began submitting horror tales to Arkham House Publishers, but they were all rejected as unsuitable.
>Ligotti found employment at the Literary Criticism Division of Gale Research Company (now Thomson Gale) in 1979. >His first published story, "The Chymist" appeared in Nyctalops # 16, March 1981. >During 1983 Ligotti attended the World Fantasy Convention in Ottawa, Canada. >At the time, he was relatively unknown as a writer, but throughout the 1980s many more of his stories were published in small press journals and his reputation grew among aficionados of weird fiction, culminating in the landmark volume Songs of a Dead Dreamer from Silver Scarab Press in 1985. A revised and expanded volume of this book, featuring substantially different contents, was published in the UK as a trade paperback in 1989 and in the United States the following year in hardcover. Two further major collections of stories, Grimscribe (1991) and Noctuary (1994) enjoyed simultaneous publication on both sides of the Atlantic. A selection from all three collections followed in 1996 under the title The Nightmare Factory, which also included six new stories.
>In 1997, Ligotti's In a Foreign Town, In a Foreign Land saw print, and this heralded the beginning of his association with David Tibet's band Current 93. Tibet's Durtro Press subsequently issued three chapbooks of Ligotti's poems I Have a Special Plan for This World (2000), This Degenerate Little Town (2001), Death Poems (2004) and his screenplay Crampton (2003-co-written with Brandon Trenz). Ligotti left his job of twenty-three years during 2001 and subsequently began working as a freelance writer and editor. Shortly afterwards he moved from the Detroit area to the Gulf coast of Florida to be near his family. The year 2003 also saw the appearance of Ligotti's longest work to date, the short novel My Work is Not Yet Done from Mythos Books in the United States.
>Ligotti's new short stories often appear in Weird Tales magazine, and he continues to feature regularly in prestigious book anthologies.

http://tartaruspress.com/l30.htm

lol, someone did NOT want to go to the reunion

https://gpn1971.org/miscellaneous5

>>23914745
He also recognized the facet that enthusiasts of darkness are men rather than women most of the times

Uhh, what is the significance of this? We have images of Ligotti. It's not like he's a Pynchon "le recluse".

>>23909317
WOW LIGOTTI LOOKED LIKE THAT? DAYUM

>>23912700
>Go smoke some weed
NTA but substances literally do not work on me anymore. I am so unhappy that the unhappiness busts through the chemicals and becomes differently flavored unhappiness. I'm thinking about either trying heroin or killing myself.

>>23916334
He has no video interviews or audio interviews. If you read his interview you will discover that he shares almost everything but despite that he remains utterly mysterious. Is he a troll? Is a shaman? Is he demon from the underworld?

I don't know man.

>>23916363
I've read some of those interviews and it's so funny how unpretentious he is. In one of the newer ones he literally said that he has no interest in most classics, only the books that really resonate with him; the ones where the authors fully expose their tortured souls. He also said that besides some occasional nonfiction he barely reads nowadays, and that he spends most of his time watching horror films like Final Destination. Apparently, even in spite of their often poor quality, they speak to his hopelessly dark sensibilities.

>>23910463
I take this back. Just pulled my hamstring doing leg press. Ligotti is right. Life is not worth living.

>>23916476
>In one of the newer ones he literally said that he has no interest in most classics
Kek, because motherfucker has read everything and mastered the craft. Can you link me the interview?

>that he spends most of his time watching horror films like Final Destination
This is extremely funny

>>23916476
I read an old interview where he said that he doesn't read long books, only short stories

>>23916516
He admitted reading Gaddis and Gass doe

>>23916499
>because motherfucker has read everything and mastered the craft
It wasn't just that, I think he said that he doesn't care about fiction that doesn't connect with his experiences

https://www.teemingbrain.com/interviews/interview-with-thomas-ligotti/
I think it was this one, not so recent after all (from -06) lol. Might've been some other interviews too, but at least he mentions the Final Destination movies here.

>>23916516
found it (it was like an old online interview with a bunch o fans)

>>23916522
Oh I have read this one. I remember reading his interview from 2020 I think. But I don't remember any details.

His interview books, Born to Fear and A Little White Book of Screams and Whispers are not yet available on libgen.

>>23916527
Is Ligotti's email on the internet legit?

>>23910128
A bad trip can make you like Ligotti? Shit im staying off the mushrooms

>>23916534
Ligotti received occult powers from shroom deities and they told him that he doesn't need psychedelics anymore. There was a price doe, he became a scared shitless in his real life. But he became a great artist.

>>23916334
There’s only like 3 pics of him on the Internet.

While he does a lot of interviews, he’s still very reclusive.

>>23916476
I know he says he doesn’t read a lot of classics, but I would say he’s pretty well read, especially outside horror.

>He has cited Thomas Bernhard, William S. Burroughs, Emil Cioran, Vladimir Nabokov, Edgar Allan Poe, Giacomo Leopardi, Samuel Beckett, Franz Kafka, and Bruno Schulz as being among his favorite writers. H. P. Lovecraft is also an important touchstone for Ligotti: a few stories, "The Sect of the Idiot" in particular, make explicit reference to Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos, and one, "The Last Feast of Harlequin", was dedicated to Lovecraft. Also among his avowed influences are Algernon Blackwood, M.R. James, and Arthur Machen, all fin de siècle horror authors known for their subtlety and implications of the cosmic and supernatural in their stories.[1] He has also invoked the influence of philosophers such as Arthur Schopenhauer and Peter Wessel Zapffe.[1]

>He has been influenced by the "first-person voice in which Nabokov wrote" and the "densely metaphorical style of Bruno Schulz".[17]

>>23916574
I know that he's well read lol. I just find it endearing how picky he is in terms of what he reads.

>>23916476
>they speak to his hopelessly dark sensibilities.
doesnt it get cringey being a doomer for so long? idk how someone like that exists.

>>23916565
This thread in turn inspired me to look up the yearbooks of famous musicians and my family

>>23909317
>>23909324
looks like a dirtbag tbhwichu

>>23916527
where's the rest where he mentions gaddis and gass?

>>23915931
based bill dodger

>>23916889
I'M JUST TEENAGE DIRTYBAG BABY

>>23916482
Kek

Since this is a Ligotti thread, I might as well ask this here.

What are some good horror stories (or novels) that takes the whole harlequin/Commedia dell'arte aesthetic for its stories?

I’m asking because I know Ligotti does this really well with his stories. But I’m curious to see if other authors have done it too.

If you’re not sure what I’m asking for, pic related should help. Stories with that kind of aesthetic.

>>23912613
I have a summer birthday and I think it makes a lot of sense actually.

>>23918721
Don't know about the aesthetic but "The Last Feast of Harlequin" literally features harlequins and the word in the title.

It's the first Ligotti story i read because someone mentioned that it was an homage to Lovecraft's "The Festival" which is one of y favorites by him.
It's pretty good, Lovecraft tier really.


wow, now i have to wait 900s to post on 4chin
this place went to shit a long time ago, but this is likely my last post here. i'm not giving the my my email, what's next cellphone activation?

His prose is ridiculously wordy, it's unreadable

>>23909317
Whoa I'm reading Teatro Grottesco right now kinda cool.

>>23921355
How so