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>> No.23886055

>>23886032
That society seeks to exploit the individual, the creators and inventors. The normie is a communist at heart because communism is a primitive ideology.

>> No.23886070

>>23886055
Jesus was also one of these individuals, like Howard Roark he was rejected at first, when he became great they tried to destroy him and even Christians today try to exploit his death by claiming it was a sacrificial offering.

>> No.23886142

What happens to the parasites when they succeed in killing the host.

>> No.23886148

>>23886142
The eat each other.

>> No.23886186
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23886186

>>23886032
>Get the hell out of my way or I'll shove this drill up your ass.
-John "Big Daddy" Galt.

>> No.23886464

Corrupt society will try to stop individuals from making a change, if the change disrupts status quo. Aka commies are a threat to human existence, human will, human individuality, etc.

>> No.23886692

How to dismantle any communist argument.

>> No.23886695

I get it. She came from a communist country but it feels a little bit forced. Like she's trying to push her point of view out of desperation. idk.

>> No.23886701

>>23886695
You just haven’t experienced this in reality, once you do it’ll make sense.

>> No.23886720

>>23886701
I just think there's two point of views. The communist were evil from the get go and the more nuanced approach. That the system couldn't work at the time without oppression and well it turned out it couldn't. Does that mean its the end of history? I'm not so sure. Right now we're experiencing AI and robotincs as a looming threat to our livelihoods and the solution is reliance on the sate... The guy who declared the end of history wasn't so sure himself.

>> No.23886737

>>23886720
I get you’re trying to make a case for communism, she isn’t really attacking the ideology as much as the underlying psychology which manifest itself everywhere, communism may just be the form that mindset takes when it becomes a philosophy. The future will not be so simple and will probably employ a multitude of solutions.

>> No.23886743

>>23886720
I have reason to believe the latter because in the soviet union they tried their best to undo stalin's oppression. This lead to the era of stagnation. We pretend to work because they pretend to pay us. Had Lenin not died would have he gotten rid of the nep? Maybe because it was also decided by the party committee. I don't know.

>> No.23886763

>>23886737
Well there's the fact capitalism might adapt to automated labor. Its hard to see how but it could be a 100% service economy with people wanting more genuine work than ai slop even if ai slop is better. That is a possibility. There's also people that say that's in the distant future.

>> No.23886778

>>23886032
Ayn Rand developed her philosophy specifically because she was so ugly that even in the shitstorm of the Russian Revolution neither her kike daddy nor the inbred alcoholic Bolsheviks were interested in raping her. She coped by convincing herself that this is due to socialism repressing the healthy and natural instincts (to rape Ayn Rand) in men, and men should act as selfish as possible (i.e. finally rape her). In her books, tall selfish men with big arms are constantly raping her self-insert character. She completely misunderstood men, as it always happens with women.

A real man is a living antithesis to Objectivism. As a human male, I cannot act in my own personal interests since I naturally have none, so instead I rape women out of selfless kindness, as all men do.

If Ayn Rand ever met me, I would rape the Objectivism out of her to absolutely no benefit of my own (there can be no personal gain or profit from raping Ayn Rand desu), and that would collapse her world-view on a metaphysical level. It would become indisputably self-evident to her that she kept writing books because despite all of her efforts she never got a good rape. She never got a good rape because the only men she interacted with were Objectivists who fell for her books - books written by a women dreaming of being raped, about a woman dreaming of being raped. The only men who can enjoy her books are women in male bodies, inherently incapable of raping her, and instead hoping that she would rape them, that she would incarnate as a the man she dreams of, the Messiah hiding under the skin of the Prophet. She would see why all of her relationships with men were such disasters, both of them eagerly waiting for the other to rape, waiting to no outcome. She would love me and my kind dick selflessly in return despite all her will, leaving her with absolutely nothing to ground her ideas anymore, finally feeling true freedom - freedom as an absence, as a flight with no land holding your feet, as hers would be dangling high above. The dreams of an Atlantean man of self-interests would evaporate from her head with the moisture of my cum drying in her scruffy hair. She would sing praises to Lenin whenever her mouth is not taken by selfless work on my cock and balls.

>> No.23886798

>>23886032
That Rand and people who follow her are sociopaths.

>> No.23886801

>>23886798
I think if goodness is a scale from selfishness to selflessness then yes they're prioritizing evil. I don't think someone who is completely selfish can be a force for good.

>> No.23886811

>>23886801
The Buddha is selfish, he cultivates wisdom and virtue. Your average Redditor is selfless, they give themselves up to the crowd.

>> No.23886825

>>23886811
I think this is where it gets complicated. You can will probably not achieve great things without trusting someone, financially or otherwise, but trust should be guarded and you should be very wary of you trust. These days trust is often abused.

>> No.23886827

>>23886778
Yes, I know this might be just a very elaborate (You) bait, but I can't shake off the feeling there's some truth to it. It just feels so contradictory that the same person, a woman, whose entire philosophy boils down to
>do what you want, other people don't have the right to stop you
consistently wrote female characters whose only contribution to their stories is being subservient fucktoys for male characters.

>> No.23886850

>>23886825
My understanding of buddhism is the middle path. So according to buddhism be in between selfish and selfless. Unless i misunderstood.

>> No.23886859

>>23886850
Sure, spend many years being selfish and meditating so you can spend the rest giving away what you have earned.

>> No.23886879

>>23886859
Well an example i can think from my life is my parents. Latin america is politically unstable compared to the us(until now but probably still) so people want to get money out. They trusted my parents to invest their money in real estate. I believe they've been good to their promise. If people though they were not trustworthy nobody would have given them the opportunity. My parents said trust is a piggy bank. Once you break it you can glue it back together but it won't be the same. Well I'm sure there's contracts too which gets rid off some of that uncertainty.

>> No.23886895

i will never read any of that stupid capitalist apologist bitch’s literature

>> No.23888324

>>23886801
Selfishness is not bad, for one very simple reason...no one will look out for your best interests except you. Everyone else has an angle, and not to your benefit.

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23889036

>>23888324
Exactly

>> No.23889040

>>23886032
How to be gay and suck dicks

>> No.23890029

>>23886032
You learn that atlas can do shrugs

>> No.23890057

>>23886032
That if a Jewish woman who is all for the collective interests of her own group is telling you to be an “individual,” and to abandon any sense of your own group’s collective interests, then it should not be difficult for you to figure out why.

>> No.23890060

>>23890057
Individuals advance society, not primitive people who live like primates.

>> No.23890195

>>23890060
Asians are the most collective-minded race on earth and they are plenty advanced.
A healthy individualism is what sets the Western man apart from the rest, yes, but an excessive emphasis on it is as cancerous as an excessive emphasis on collectivism.

>> No.23890209

>>23886827
That a meaningless copypasta newfag

>> No.23891170

No matter how much you achieve in life, it will never be enough to satisfy a woman.

>> No.23893070

>>23886032
> What can I learn from this?
That there isn't much to learn, but don't take my word, or r/askphilosophy's word, or whoever else's word, for it. Read it yourself, then go to work in an RND institution, a factory, or a lab. Read a bit on how big inventions like the internet were actually achieved. Then you'll see.

>> No.23893234

>>23890195
>Nothing lacking...or in excess - Greek proverb

And essentially Aristotle’s later philosophical work.