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>> No.23706182
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read lord of the mysteries

>> No.23706186

Buy my book.

>> No.23706188

rec me some good royalroad shit

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>> No.23706199

>>23706188
Zombie Knight Saga. Arrogant Young Master template 4 variation x.

>> No.23706200

First for Bakker

>> No.23706208

>>23706199
AYMT4VX reads like a sitcom watches.

>> No.23706228

>>23706177
>>23704356
Hey guys, I seem to remember an anon sharing his Royalroad(or similar website) story a year or so back here or in /wg/, Id like to find it again.
It was a female MC i think, Unfortunately I cant remember much except for it starting with her being framed for murder or something and running away (maybe while raining) with some baddies in pursuit. It had a pretty grimdark vibe.

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I began to read "Cugel's Saga" yesterday, and there was such a passage at the beginning:

...then, picking his way across the shingle, he climbed to the crest of a dune and looked in all directions.
To the north a succession of marshes and huddles of black larch straggled away into the murk.
To the east Cugel gave only a cursory glance. Here were the villages Smolod and Grodz, and memories were long in the Land of Cutz.
To the south, languid and listless, the ocean extended to the horizon and beyond.
To the west, the shore stretched far to meet a line of low hills which, thrusting into the sea, became a headland. ... A red glitter flashed across the distance, and Cugel's attention was instantly attracted.
Such a red sparkle could only signify sunlight reflecting from glass!
Cugel marked the position of the glitter, which faded from view as the sunlight shifted. He slid down the face of the dune and set off at best speed along the beach.
The sun dropped behind the headland; gray-lavender gloom fell across the beach. An arm of that vast forest known as The Great Erm edged down from the north, suggesting a number of eery possibilities, and Cugel accelerated his pace to a striding bent-kneed lope.
The hills loomed black against the sky, but no sign of habitation appeared. Cugel's spirits sagged low. He proceeded more slowly, searching the landscape with care, and at last, to his great satisfaction, he came upon a large and elaborate manse of archaic design, shrouded behind the trees of an untidy garden. The lower windows glowed with amber light: a cheerful sight for the benighted wanderer.


FUCK, I love this trope, when MC appears somewhere in a desolate place and just goes in some direction, and then different picturesque and enigmatic structures emerge. It's like a dream about a travel, when you start from a known point (your country house, for example) and then ride on a bike through misty fields, imagened empty villages and towns, vivid landscapes. Any books like this? The Hobbit is pretty relevant to some extent.

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Recommend me something with a dominant, obsessive female love interest, please. I will take literally any setting, but urban fantasy would be ideal.

>> No.23706415

>>23706188
Gravid: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/86163/gravid

>> No.23706486

>>23706415
this smells like supermarket "romance"

>> No.23706551

>>23706486
No romance.

>> No.23706663

>>23706551
In that case, change up the cover art. It looks like a slop romance cover.

>> No.23706675

>>23706188
Accidental War Mage

>> No.23706681

>>23706186
what si it about?

>> No.23706709

>>23706663
Didn't your mother tell you not to judge a book by its cover?

>> No.23706805

>>23706188
Arrogant Young Master (if you know xianxia tropes)
Everybody Loves Large Chests
Sexy Space Babes

>> No.23706833

>>23706326
The Horrors of Love by Jean Dutourd (obsessive female love interest, yes, urban fantasy, no).

>> No.23706887

>>23706681
Murder lady murders the fuck out of gangsters

>> No.23706965

>>23706833
Thank you very much!

>> No.23707332
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I read first three books of The Legends of First Empire by Sullivan, but aside from characters it really seems mediocre with too much divine intervention and coincidental stuff happening for my taste.
My question is should I just drop it or maybe put it on hold? (Final book is not yet released in my country, so it will stop me for few months anyway.)
And if so what would be more interesting it read, First Law by Joe Abercrombie or maybe something by Brandon Sanderson?
I'm more into worldbuilding and plain sword fights rather than magic, if that helps.

>> No.23707343

are there any good superhero novels?

>> No.23707380

>>23707332
>I'm more into worldbuilding and plain sword fights rather than magic, if that helps.
Abercrombie has swordfights, but no well executed worldbuilding.
Sanderson has worldbuilding, but rather silly anime swordfights.

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>> No.23707415

>>23707380
>Abercrombie has swordfights, but no well executed worldbuilding.
I see, that's what I felt from reading description. I'm going to assume that you have read at least first trilogy, could you please provide some elaboration on the story or concepts that seemed interesting to you?
>Sanderson has worldbuilding, but rather silly anime swordfights.
Yeah, that's precisely what I was afraid of. But does it literally mean that fights look like taken out of shonens or that he is writing them in very plain way?

>> No.23707449

>>23707343
Worm webnovel

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>>23706228
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/40361/erased
This was posted years ago on writing general, sounds similar not sure if it's what you're looking for.

>> No.23707460

>>23707415
>could you please provide some elaboration on the story or concepts that seemed interesting to you?
Have you read The Riyria Revelations? It's pretty the same in concept, but more "dirty", "adult".

>like taken out of shonens
More like this. Sanderson's books are pretty young-adultish and his characters have supernatural abilities. They leap far, fly, have super swords, etc.

>> No.23707471

>>23707460
>The Riyria Revelations
No. I started with The Legend of First Empire because it seemed close to series I like (sadly, not released in English).
>They leap far, fly, have super swords, etc
Damn. I knew it's might be bit silly when I saw few fanarts depicting first book from Stormlight Archive, but I didn't know it may be this bad.

>> No.23707481

>>23706326
Chthon

>> No.23707498

>>23707471
The First Law is a down-to-earth adventure, in large part it's just a quest. Have you read ASOIAF?

>but I didn't know it may be this bad.
Sanderson has his highs (he is one of the most popular authors nowadays), but his fights are not intetnded for guys who love historical fiction, that's for sure.

>> No.23707505

>>23707498
>ASOIAF
No. Watched a bit of TV series. Wasn't big fan of it, but I have nothing against "large party adventure".
>Sanderson has his highs
Yeah, I think I said it bit too harshly, but Im just not a fan of shonen styled fight.
Though, what about Elantris, is it any different?

>> No.23707520

>>23707505
Try ASOIAF then. It has worldbuilding and realistic swordfights. Or read The First Law.

>Though, what about Elantris, is it any different?
I have read Mistborn 1 and The Stormlight Archive 1-2.

>> No.23707523

>>23707520
I will try First Law.

>> No.23707527

>>23707505
>large party adventure
Nah, "in large part it's just a quest". A small group travel to the world's end, something like that.

>> No.23707595

>>23707505
>Though, what about Elantris, is it any different?
No, the entire end section is a DBZ fight.
Only the idea and the introduction is of any interest afterwards it's all filler up until the fight.

>> No.23707604

>>23707595
I'm going to take your words as highest truth.
And delay reading Sanderson until I run out of any interesting fantasy series.

>> No.23707618

>>23707604
It's the only Sanderson i've read aside from the shitty ending to Wheel of Time.
I was not impressed.

>> No.23707629

This was one of his earliest book so maybe thats why.
Regardless, like I said, I wont read him right now.

>> No.23707630

>>23707332
If you want swordfights, I can recommen:

1. The Witcher (two short story collections)
2. The Dark Elf trilogy by R. A. Salvatore
3. Waylander trilogy by David Gemmell

>> No.23707645

>>23707332
Try Greatcoats, that's basically a 3 musketeers reskinning and it is fun and sword focused.

>> No.23707647

>>23707630
Not necessarily, I just prefer "plain swordfights" rather heavy magic usage.
Second and third are no longer printed in my country so prices are abysmal.
As for first, I read part of it and left it for now.

>> No.23707654

>>23706188
Hardly an obscure pick given the author's previous work being popular but Pale Lights is really good.

>> No.23707657

>>23707647
Try e-books or audiobooks from torrent trackers then.

>> No.23707659

>>23707647
>Second and third are no longer printed in my country so prices are abysmal.
Do you not have libraries?

>> No.23707674

>>23707659
I have checked mine and they are not present.
>>23707657
I dont have e-reader and reading on my phone is making me tired easily. But will see.

>> No.23707714

>>23706182
Reading Throne of Magical Arcana right now, it's really pretty shit. It crawled so LOTM could fly.

>> No.23707729

>>23707714
It's by the same author? The only things I remember about Magical Arcana was some wizards literally getting their heads blown up because of science and the mc making the gay female lead straight.

>> No.23707759

>>23706177
Darrow is probably going to die in Red God,isn't he?
I kind of hate how predictable that is
Main character deaths used to come out of the blue and shock you
now you can see them a mile away

>> No.23708075

>>23707759
>ya slop does slop things
wow...

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>>23706177
First for more of this kind of stuff in SSF books

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anyone ever read this? is this good?
been wildly browsin the 'reads for fantasy and saw this book

>> No.23708191

>>23708169
Only read book 1 but pretty good imo, his strongest since his debut novel.

>> No.23708192

>>23706805
The SSB fanfic I'm reading now is HollowShel's "cultural exchange".
Other good RoyalRoad:
-Flight of the Addax
-Long War
-Rinn's Run
-The Privateer

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Anyone here read this? I started it last night after seeing it mentioned in another thread

>> No.23708243

>>23708169
>>23708191
And like his debut novel, it gets progressively worse with each installment.

>> No.23708360

What's the weirdest science fiction novel that you've ever read /sffg/?

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>>23708360

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>>23708360
a lot of them are weird

>> No.23708415

Why is Sanderson so insistent on the whole idea of "it's fine if you murder thousands of people as long as you want to be a better person"?

>> No.23708444

>>23708415
it’s called redemption. but anyone who writes as much as brandershit is gonna repeat himself too much.

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>Mat gets fucking raped out of nowhere
holy moly

>> No.23708473

>>23708448
Deserved

>> No.23708556

>>23708191
>>23708243
alright, I'll get this book then. just checked some online bookshop and one of them have this book, new condition, for around $15 lel
thanks

>> No.23708570

>>23708473
He's a good boy he didn't deserve to be taken advantage of by a queen so horny she barged into his room and ripped his clothes off of him at knife point.
It's so sad...

>> No.23708595

>>23708448
I'm afraid his rape is only the beginning of his suffering.

>> No.23708749

>>23706199
>Zombie Knight Saga
The best story on the entire site.
Too bad the author takes years long hiatuses

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>>23706188
>10 years ago Royalroad was just some fanfic section of Japtem where we read Legendary Moonlight Sculptor fanfics
>It's now the western equivalent of Narou and has tons of good stories
Bros...
We really made it.

>> No.23708762

>>23708749
Yeah, but he's been pretty consistent for like the last two years now. Shame that I'm not really enjoying where the story is currently at though.

>> No.23708793

>read way of kings and actually really enjoyed it
>book 2 was slightly lower quality but still decent enough
>wanted to kill myself during books 3 and 4
>zero desire to read stormlight 5

>> No.23708810

>>23708415
he's a mormon

>> No.23708861

>>23708448
I'll now read your sloppa

>> No.23708872

>>23708861
yeah good luck dude it took me like half a year to get to this point lmao
though you'd probably feel at home if you like BDSM

>> No.23708876

>>23708595
>being raped by a hot GILF Queen
>suffering

>> No.23708888

>>23708876
Well he was obviously not okay with it but you don't say no to a queen holding a knife at your throat.

>> No.23708905

>>23708888
>Well he was obviously not okay with it
see that's why Rand and Perrin were cooler, they wouldn't say no to hot sex with a gilf

>> No.23708912

>>23708905
Rand already has 3 qts and Faile would rip Perrins throat out if he even looked at another woman.
Unlikely.

>> No.23708922

>>23708905
You're only saying that because you're a beta male with little to no access to sex. Mat was banging teenage waitresses every night. His granny rape chapters were a significant downgrade for him.

>> No.23708924

>>23708922
Also this, Mat has young pussy on demand, all he has to do is smile nicely and he'll have a queue of women in front of his bed. Why would he settle for some old hag?

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>>23706177
Do you think Tyrion will become a dragon rider?
There is a stupid amount of foreshadowing for it.
>Tyrion talks about how he was obsessed with dragons as a child and wanted his own dragon more than anything
>The Mad King cuckolded Tywin, so he is probably Tyrion's real dad, giving him Valyrian blood
>In his trial, Tyrion talks about wanting to burn King's Landing to the ground
>In Essos, Tyrion ascends to villainy

So, my guess is he bonds with one of Dany's dragons and then hears Tysha is in King's Landing, jumps on the dragon's back, and flies there.
In King's Landing, Tyrion finds out Tysha was tortured to death by Cersei or something, which throws him over the edge and he burns King's Landing to the ground.

>> No.23708941

>>23708922
>>23708924
Hag pussy>>>>>>teen pussy

>> No.23708977

>>23708925
>>/lit/grrm

>> No.23709011

>>23707481
Will check out, ty.

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>>23708925
He'll die before that.

>> No.23709069

>>23708225
I plan to read it at some point. Share your thoughts when you're done if you don't mind.

>> No.23709101

>>23708360
Sisyphean by Torishima Dempow

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>>23706177
>youtube autoplays podcasts with 5 views
>podcast is sponsored by podcast host's book
The premise sounded exceptionally terrible, so I looked it up.

>Vandryn of house Glenclare faces insurmountable odds fighting against the corrupt Melborians. He will rely on an unexpected friendship with an elf named Zan Cadeyn Umbaden and his alluring sister Zylla. Together they will face the will of the Blood Queen, empress Ash Axana and a treacherous plot of a beautiful young blood mage named Liliath.

I don't care if the target audience is kids, that's just a bland and questionable synopsis.

>> No.23709136

>>23709110
These names are Glup Shitto-tier

>> No.23709165

>>23709136
Yes, but the weirdest thing is to include them in the synopsis in the first place.
Like point of the synopsis is the hook the reader, and naming characters isn't to hook anyone, so if the character's name isn't referenced in the synopsis it's pointless to include it in the first place. In this case could have been just:

>A man faces insurmountable odds fighting against corrupt invaders. He will rely on an unexpected friendship with elf siblings. Together they will face the will of an empress and a treacherous plot of a blood mage.

But even then it's shit...


I do find bad writing inspiring.

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>King's Dragon
>not even one dragon in the whole book
What are other times book's title, cover or backside description give you a wrong impression or straight up lie to you?

>> No.23709374

>>23709110
>66 pages

>> No.23709387

>>23709315
m8 try reading the entire Wheel of Time series.

>> No.23709390

>>23709387
Has Wheel of Time even showed up in this series?

>> No.23709448

>>23709110
...66 pages? Basically a short story.

>> No.23709461

>>23709390
Arguably yes, but I was talking about dragons.

>> No.23709655

>>23709461
I don't really want to pick up the series since I know it'll require a lot of my free time to finish it and I already have a lot of books I want to read. Beside from what I know dragon there isn't a real dragon but a title which is lame and them same thing as in King's Dragon (although in WoT the title comes with super powers from what I gathered).

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>Name your series Lord of the Rings
>there's only one ring
>the guy with the ring isn't even a lord

>> No.23709670

>There's only one ring
Someone didn't read LotR.

>> No.23709676

>>23709658
>there's only one ring
but that's wrong

>> No.23709717

>>23709670
>>23709676
You can literally watch the first minute of the movie to know this

>> No.23709792

>>23709658
>enter /ssfg/
>people complain about plot points from books they haven't even seen

>> No.23709800

>>23708925
Not sure if Tyrion will become "A" dragon rider but maybe he'll ride behind Dany. However, I think his arc will be a bit more subtle. I think that Tyrion will somehow manipulate Dany into burning King's Landing (just like he manipulated fake "Aegon" on the ship). Tyrion has been seething for a whole book about King's Landing and wanting to get revenge, and Dany has a plan to invade Westeros so you do the math.

So overall, my theory is that Tyrion will aid in burning King's Landing, and the caches of wildfire will blow everything up more than they expected and turn Dany crazy with guilt.

>> No.23709802

>>23708925
>>The Mad King cuckolded Tywin, so he is probably Tyrion's real dad, giving him Valyrian blood
Stop

>> No.23709885

>>23709670
>>23709676
>>23709717
>there were more but all the interesting stuff with them happened offscreen earlier
webnovel tier worldbuilding

>> No.23709886

>>23708925
WoW will never be completed so its all pointless speculation.

>> No.23709910

>>23707759
He gets virus'd by Lysander but lives because of the genetic editing he went through. However, he has to give up the fight and leave everything to the new generation.

>> No.23709913

>>23709374
>>23709448
Well not quite, 66 implies 18K words (p × 275 words), so it would probably fall lower in of a novella.

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>>23709913
forgot pic

>> No.23709950

>>23709927
Right, sorry. I've got webnovel brainrot so anything sub-50k is barely a novel in my mind.

>> No.23709963

> I want to read stories with harems. I don't care about the sex, but Japanese main characters are too passive and soft. Amazon novels seem too sterilized. What do I do?

> I'll check them out. Thanks.
I've tried reading a few in the past and they just felt sanitized and formulaic. I'm guessing Amazon ties their hands in terms of what content they can have.
Maybe I'm too used to Japanese novels where the harem is basically a secondary or tertiary focus.

For the guy who asked this question a couple threads ago, I’m not really sure what you mean by sanitized as many Western Harem stories contain straight up smut. I think maybe the word you’re looking for is formulaic? That would definitely fit.

Anyway to give you some recs you might enjoy there’s Herald of Shalia which is obviously inspired by the Nipponese style and its quite dirty and definitely not sanitized. I’d also recommend Daniel Black as a classic of the genre, have a feeling you might like it if you don't already know. And my final recommendation would be Three Square Meals/John Blake Chronicles which is a space opera that contains a lot of explicit smut mixed with romance and marine style military action + fleet style warfare and a bit of a Lovecraftian bend to it as well. Basically the MC finds out he's not quite human and takes over the galaxy, defeats major threats and collects a bunch of women like pokemon. Its pretty cool imo. Much more content to be found on his patreon than is on amazon.

There was also that series on literotica that contained a Virtual World that’s been recommended sporadically as a gem of the genre, however I can’t remember the name so if anyone knows what I’m talking about I’d appreciate it if you’d enlighten me.

>> No.23710063

>>23702576
just finished the whole thing. it's terrible. there's like 700 pages or so of boring filler for maybe 3 interesting chapters where something happens. and some of the plot is so fucking retarded, and the characters are so one dimensional and all the same, it's been a while since i get mad at a book. it was such a chore to read this, i usually enjoy reading

>> No.23710159

>>23709963
Herald of Shalia is S-Tier for a smut book
I would also recommend Celestine Chronicles by Cebelius

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I need an adventure type story. Like new sun but it's an actual explorer or a diplomat or a trader or whatever, going into faraway lands and describing them and the people with good prose.
something like Fosco Maraini - The Ascent of Gasherbrum IV

>> No.23710242

>>23706308
Excellent post anon. I think Book of the New Sun qualifies if you haven't read it yet.
>>23707343
I really liked Soon I Will Be Invincible tho I was like 18 when I read it.
>>23707332
Read Gormenghast
>>23708925
I think so. The dragon has three heads, and Danny needs two dragon riders. Jon is the obvious one, so someone has to be the wildcard, fAegon being a clear red herring, and giving the dwarf a dragon seems like it'd be grrms style. We don't know what exactly made Tywin finally break from Aerys, so a rape is possible. Would partly explain his constant barely suppressed rage. Also he loved his wife more than anything, and she was also his cousin, so despite hating Tyrion for being a rape baby he would still be a Lannister and his wife's last son so it makes sense to me he'd keep him.

>> No.23710284

>>23710242
Also, Tyrion meeting Jon adds another layer. Because Tyrion would be Jon's uncle.

Tyrion being Aerys's son is so more obvious than R+L=J I'm surprised it isn't talked about more and how the dragon show could just discard it.

>> No.23710296

I wonder what narrative-altering item the patreon paypig fans will vote for Carl's upcoming in-book fan box.

>> No.23710321

>>23707714
is LOTM 2 any good?

>> No.23710334

>>23709885
the whole point is that the rings were a scam that allowed Sauron to establish his dominion over middle earth. He made the One Ring and so was the Lord of the Rings since that Ring gave him control over the other rings. The Ring Wraiths were human kings with the nine human rings, the elves have the rings but don't use them for the above reason. And the Dwarves got Ack'd as well

>> No.23710382

>>23710321
I adored LotM 1 but 2 is not nearly as good, read up to chapter 700+ and stalled out. Most powers that MC has to fight against are not from potions but bestowed, so it reads like the author just makes up whatever he wants to fulfill his chapter quota. MC never really has to hunt down ingredients or manage his resources like Klein did
Overall the book is still above average for a webnovel but not in the same tier as LotM 1

>> No.23710418

>>23710382
won't bother then

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>Misandrist matriarchal society in world building
>Men are still biologically stronger
>"Why didn't the men over throw the matriarchal world order? Well... it's uhh.. because they didn't okay!?"
Why the fuck is this so common in new Fantasy?

>> No.23710480

>>23710418
if you've run out of slop to read there are worse options. side characters like Magician/Justice from Tarot Club appear now and then
MC is from Hunter pathway that fights in a much different style than Klein. if the book stuck strictly to potions Hunter MC could have been kino

>> No.23710483

>>23710443
I don't know, why haven't Burgerstanis used all those guns yet?

>> No.23710485

>>23710443
biological strength has literally never determined the victors of warfare or revolution

>> No.23710530

>>23710443
Name 5 books.

>> No.23710548

Whore after all…

>> No.23710593
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are there any decent RI fanfics?

>> No.23710654

alright alright so I've actually never read LotR but I did love the first three movies. How are the books?

>> No.23710680

>>23710654
genre-defining classics. if you like reading and like fantasy then you should read all of Tolkien’s work, but especially the lord of the rings.

>> No.23710684

>>23710593
There's a RI homage book on RR but I can't recall the title

>> No.23710726

>>23710485
It absolutely did, way back in the earliest days of human society. Warfare back then was less organized, it didn't rely on logistics or formations, it was about forming a band of warriors to raid a settlement. Such warfare depended on the individual stamina and strength of each warrior. The band did not have a set marching pace, it moved as fast as its slowest warrior could manage through the wilderness between settlements. Even after warfare became more organized, the standards for the movement of troops were based on the physical capabilities of men, not women. Women only became viable as soldiers when marching 10-20 miles a day stopped being a requirement for being a soldier.

>> No.23710729

>>23709885
>where da rangz?!
On the fingers of the wraiths, or the elves and one Maia. RTFB noob.
The point of the magic rings is that Gandalf is pretty sure he knows where the really special ones come from, and those ones came from the Dark Lord of the Second Age. Bilbo might have one of the Nine which would be bad enough (the Ringwraiths are Nine but haven't been seen clustered together in awhile), but there's a dim chance he could have the One.
Or, Bilbo might have something leftover from the First Age, like those swords; that's Gandalf's best hope, but invisibility-rings tend toward power and treachery by nature, so some lost ring of Morgoth's minions might not be much improvement, either.
Overall you look like a fag to me. Your mom should get remarried or else you'll have a cock in your mouth before someone here could say "jack robinson".

>> No.23710779

>>23709055
Why did you post a picture of a barreleye?

>> No.23710812

>>23710593
No

>> No.23710885

>>23709461
The dragon reborn is pretty apparent thought out the first book.

>> No.23710897

>>23710443
>Matriarchy
Everyone sucks balls at writing matriarchies.
it's always some kind of vindictive, vengeful feminist by fantasy sustained by some fairy dust 'feminine mystic' bull crap.

oddly enough,this post reminded me of that wave of matriarchy/female supremacy /female lead relationships blogs around late 2000's and early 2010's. so many people seemed convinced a big monumental shift was about to occur.
Funny enough, they all faded into oblivion around 2016.
Wonder why,lol

>> No.23710906

>>23710654
I love LOTR but the beginning and journey through the Shire sucks. It has this very stop and go feel as they are on the run and then they gotta get me some fuckin mushrooms

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>>23710443
I don't read western-published fantasy anymore but presumably because it's what the female writers and the faggot publisher agents want.
The only western stuff I have in my backlog is DMR books (pic related) and self-published stuff by Wight so i'd check that out if you're after something different.

>> No.23710952

>>23710930
>keep it R-rated
>Don't say fuck or shit
I mean I can understand what he means but this is poorly written

>> No.23710955

>>23710242
>Gormenghast
I know about it, but its currently unavailable in my local library.
Any other suggestions?

>> No.23711247

>>23707604
This has been my approach as well. I’m not gonna read them till I run out of everything else.

>> No.23711330

>>23711247
Maybe that shonen like fight are going to be bearable, for now I had choose First Law, will see how that goes.

>> No.23711337

The Hunger Games a concept is so kino, but the actual writing is just so abysmal. We're lucky to have gotten a couple of decent movies out of it desu.

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>>23710930
>keep it R-Rated
>le heckin no profanity
>le heckin no seggs

The mystery of Burgerstani Neo-Puritanism will ever elude me.

>> No.23711345

>>23710955
Gormenghast is well written, but it's boring as fuck.

>> No.23711352

Where do I start with Bolo stuff?

>> No.23711408

>>23709676
No fucking shit retard. The post was in jest

>> No.23711426

>>23711343
Do losers really simp for low quality bitches like this? That clown getup is awful.

>> No.23711473

>>23710930
God I'm glad book publishing is dying.

>> No.23711681

>whom I might have been said to have raped, though I believed then and believe still that she wished it
Holy fuck Kek is this guy for real?

>> No.23711688

>>23711681
Who said that? Sounds based.

>> No.23711696

>>23711688
might be Severian?

>> No.23711701

>>23711688
It was Severian

>> No.23711702

>>23711681
based if true

>> No.23711737

>>23710930
I think these bullet points are all pretty reasonable.

>> No.23711783

>still no new malazan
>still no new cosmere

Bros….

>> No.23711793

>>23711681
Both can be true actually

>> No.23711797

Can any of you FAGGOTS recommend a scifi or a fantasy novel that doesn't have a dozen sequels and fifty short stories within a shared universe?

>> No.23711807

>>23711797
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/195035375-a-knight-of-valora

>> No.23711817

>>23711797
Yes, tons. Personally, charts, lists, and videos.

>>23711807
Grinding out shilling what you wrote. Hussle hustle.

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>> No.23711948

>>23711895
now this is some serious gourmet shit!

it's been ages since i've seen anyone so much as mention saberhagen (and then only by reference to the berserker series)

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Kidnapping Tyrion was stupid.

Kidnapping Tyrion directly caused the war, triggering Tywin to invade the Riverlands.
It's like she didn't consider her actions at all. Yet this is supposed to be a level-headed character.

>> No.23711993

>>23706675
i'll give this one a shot, it better be good

>> No.23712000

>>23711987
she's a woman

>> No.23712007

>>23712000
Digits thief

>> No.23712009

>writing my own scifi story
>set in the far future but still set in the milky way
>don't really know how much of the galaxy should be colonized by humans
>look up to see what other scifi franchiese take place within the milky way
>realize they almost all do because the milky way is fucking massive
>also realize just how fucking far away the andromeda galaxy is

In the entirety of the Star Trek franchise, they've only explored about 1/4th of it.

The empire in Dune has colonized the entirety of the milky way, but they can't get to the andromeda

>> No.23712036

>>23712009
Due to the expansion of the universe almost 100% of galaxies are unreachable even at light speed because how quickly they're moving away. As for our galaxy, it really depends on the amount of time and the method used. That is, in scientific terms, which can be ignored.

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>>23706188
i enjoyed Twilight Kingdom but the author stubbed it. annas archive has it

>> No.23712047

>>23711987
Lets not forget that happened because Tyrions blade was found on the assassin sent to kill Bran for having witnessed Jaime and Cersei getting it on (Jaime having done this because of his devotion to his house and family, knowing they could all be killed if the truth came out) You could say it was Baelish who started this war for arming the assassin, trying to pin it on Tyrion too.

Thats what I love about this world, things arent always so simple, pure good and evil being a rarity. Lots of morally grey characters and situations.

>> No.23712051

>>23712036
Andromeda is actually moving TOWARDS us

>> No.23712061

>>23711987
This is a large part of why I ultimately dropped it. You shouldn't have a major turning point in a story be the result of something nonsensical otherwise you risk making all of the consequences feel pointless. No matter what he wrote after that all I could think was , "Literally none of this should be happening this is retarded." Ultimately, George seemed to care more about the war itself than the cause, and it's a shame because before he shit the bed he had all the pieces laid out in a competent fashion.

>> No.23712064

>>23712047
Baelish goaded Caitlyn into it, but she ultimately made the decision.

>> No.23712096

>>23712061
>George seemed to care more about the war itself
Not even that. It's essentially a fuck you.
In many ways, he is just completely disinterested in War of the Five Kings.
Like, we don't have a POV character about the war, most events are just told to Catelyn who is always removed from the frontlines.

>> No.23712105

>>23712064
That's not a good enough reason considering the risk, the circumstances, and the alternative. Ned was Hand of the King at the time, and Tyrion was headed to King's Landing. Given that she knew Ned had the same information as her there's no reason to suspect he wouldn't have had a plan of action already in mind for Tyrion's arrival. To put him and her daughters (and the whole of the North) at risk on a hunch is not a level of irrationality that character had displayed up until that point. Perhaps if it was only Jon Snow at King's Landing, or perhaps if she knew the girls had been safely taken back North then maybe I could understand, but we don't get anything close to that. It's pure retardation.

>> No.23712120

>>23712105
I agree with you.
Isn't it just random, like she didn't plan on it, she didn't know Tyrion was going to visit the tavern.
Tyrion might have also gone to King's Landing via the sea route.

>> No.23712186

>>23712047
>You could say it was Baelish who started this war for arming the assassin
It was Joffrey who armed and paid the assassin, the whole thing was a coincidence that Littlefinger took advantage of.

>> No.23712221

Is the Thomas Covenant series worth reading? All the fat ugly dykes on goodreads seem to hate it which is usually a good sign.

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>>23710930
>no characters with names that were common in the 19th century, like Clara, Beatrice or Irwin

>> No.23712271

>>23712221
it's one of the best fantasy series from the 1970s, it influenced many authors like Cook, Gemmell Erikson, etc. but if you don't wan't to read 900+ pages about a severely depressed, suicidal man and his spiritual journey to find meaning again i advise you to read something else.
Stephen Donaldson filters both goodreads retards AND faggot chuds, i can't think of many sff authors that can do that.

>> No.23712282

>>23706188
The Last Ship in Suzhou. It's the most "magical" fantasy on RR.

>> No.23712299

>>23712221
I found the world too fantastical for my tastes, lots of weird shit you have to rape your head around.

>> No.23712328

>>23710443
Read drow sloppa, like Drizzt origin story.
Drow females are physically stronger than males, and only females get powers of the drow goddess, so drow matriarchy makes perfect sense.

>> No.23712393

>>23712328
>tfw no dominatrix drow gf
bros...

>> No.23712477

>>23712271
>900+ pages about a severely depressed, suicidal man and his spiritual journey to find meaning again
Sounds like just the thing I need right now, thanks.

>>23712299
Good one

>> No.23712507

>>23711797
Take the VANCE pill
>has never written a series with more than four entries
>overwhelmingly his serial entries read well as standalones
>never more than 400 pages, usually less than 300
>zero filler

Someone could be a smartass and point out that a whole bunch of his novels are set in the Gaean Reach, but this has zero bearing on the content of the story.

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>>23710779
Because.

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>>23710930
And their credibility in making such stringent demands is what? Even the most autistically specific publications in the world would always at least read everything they were sent.
>Be cliched but DON'T be cliched

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>>23712623
>Even the most autistically specific publications in the world would always at least read everything they were sent.

>> No.23712825

Just finished Crown of Swords.
The fuck is up with all this rape all of a sudden? Morgase is raped, Mat gets raped, Rand thinks he raped Min, and that's just one short book by WoT standards. God damn.
Love Min. The little tomboy saved the world with her tight ass.

>> No.23713132

>>23712825
Min's ass was so fine she set fashion trends wherever she went. Imagine the Lord Dragon shows up, conquers your nation, and suddenly all the bad bitches are wearing tight breeches. No wonder they worshiped him.

>> No.23713188

>>23712623
All of these indie/smaller pubs are the same. None of them really know what they want. I’m half convinced that they’re set up by people who want a very specific book but lack the skill to do it themselves so they arbitrarily list loads of bullshit rules in the hope someone else writes it for them. It’s no wonder there’s dozens of these places with little to no name recognition or writers of any acclaim.

>> No.23713195

>>23712825
>Morgase is raped
She got blacked

>> No.23713213

>>23713132
My Min rating went through the roof after this book.
Rand is so fucked up dude. How does he even function as a human at this point? Motherfucker gets mortally wounded by a magical AIDS blade on top of another magical AIDS wound, sleeps for 2 days straight, wakes up and instantly goes after Sammael like nothing happened. I wish I had that kind of energy to do stuff.

>> No.23713255

>>23713213
Don't worry, it gets worse. Rand is in agony pretty much every second of every day for the rest of the series, more or less.

>> No.23713258

>>23711797
Why? Nobody here reads out of their comfort zone. If it ain't on a bestselling list or approved by some social-aggregate, then it won't be read.

>> No.23713267

>>23713258
fuck you, i'm reading Rider Haggard's historical novels rn

>> No.23713276

>>23713255
I love it when characters get tormented, the worse it gets the better.
By last book Rand is going to end up as a cripple somewhere in a mental asylum if this keeps up.

>> No.23713441

>>23712825
>Sammael makes all those defensive precautions in Illian to fend off Rand
>travels to Shadar Logoth to nullify Rand's numerical advantage and isolate him while also sparing the city, banking on Rand not willing to let him slip
>brought a bunch of trollocs and myrddraal into the city beforehand in order to force Rand to channel and reveal himself so he could deal with him at a safe distance
>accidentally walks into mashadar and dies
>Rand doesn't even do anything
probably the weirdest ending in the series desu

>> No.23713457

>>23713441
A taller man with a longer stride wouldn't have been caught out by mashadar

>> No.23713500

TIL Rothfuss has been separated from the mother of his kids for years, they went through a legal battle about schooling for their children which Rothfuss won (in-person), and they're currently going through a custody battle.

This whole time I thought that cunt was fucking around being a family man with his house in the woods, but apparently he's just been sitting on his ass playing games. Weird to check his blog and see his kids grown now, too.

I don't think Doors of Stone has any chance of happening before Rothfuss passes unless the publisher legally forces him somehow. Sounds like his life is fucked and his talent is likely gone with it.

>> No.23713511

Any Tanith Lee fans in here? I'm digging her stuff so far. Not usually a sword and sorcery guy but her prose is really strong.

>> No.23713553

>>23713500
He hasn't written anything, so not even when he passes, unless you mean someone else writing it entirely.

>> No.23713557

>>23713213
Dude, if only you knew. Rand's shit gets way worse as the series goes on.

I'm thinking that the fantasy protagonists who have suffered the most (physically and psychologically) are either Frodo, Simon from MS&T or Rand.

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>>23713500
Dude was an abusive ass to his girlfriend and caused his publisher/editor to go under and sell their business. He deserves losing his TV show to Halo's kek.

>> No.23713591

>>23713563
Is that dialogue serious?

>> No.23713603

>>23713591
It's Rothfuss. So yeah, probably. He lives pretty far up his own ass.

>> No.23713605

>>23713557
Rereading Eye of the World after all that must be wild. All the Two Rivers people would feel like completely different characters.

>> No.23713618

>>23713500
On the topic of this lazy fuck, I'm in the process of reading The Narrow Road Between Desires. I've already read Lightning Tree a fucking decade ago because I'm a sucker for those Dozois anthologies, but downloaded the "upgraded" version because it's the first thing that guy has created in 9 years. In the short story I haven't even finished reading, he's already turned Bast into a fag and there's a reference to a tranny. Bast probably is "bi", but in the original story, he specifically seduces a shepherdess. This was pointlessly changed into a shepherd to cash in on rainbow pandering. Later on, Bast is trying to get Rike to borrow a needle from a house where no women live. Rike mentions someone and then Bast recalls that house would work because a dude living there has changed his name and is now LARPing as a female. Rike, and apparently the rest of the tiny medieval-adjacent village, have completely accepted him as a women because people have always been famously tolerant of trannies. If he's shoehorning this shit in a short story, I cannot imagine how rough Doors of Stone would be (assuming it ever releases).

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>the dream quest of unknown kadath
This is so fucking boring holy shit it feels like it's never going to end. The other stories in this collection so far were pretty good, why the fuck would they include this snoozefest?

>> No.23713637

Did anybody here read Tales from the Flat Earth series by Tanith Lee? Your opinion?

>> No.23713647

>>23713625
Since Lovecraft finished that story in 1927 and then shoved it into a desk drawer where it remained unpublished until his death, he must have held a similar opinion to yourself.
Sometimes stories are kept as drafts for a reason, even the author thought they were unsalvageable.

>> No.23713662

>>23713625
To me, Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath and Through the Gates of the Silver Key are the hardest Lovecraft stories to get through.

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>>23713500
Of course he's not fucking writing. He realized there's not a chance in hell that he's finishing Kingkiller Chronicles in 3 books, and I would also guess that he just doesn't know how to finish it. I bet he didn't have shit planned out past book one.
also picrel

>> No.23713687

did we like Gene Wolfe's The Knight or not? I've unironically owned it for over 10 years now but never read it.. and now I need something to read. It's either this or read the first Earthsea book that I found for $1

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>Rothfuss
I don't read books written by Jews.

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if stormlight 5 manages to keep up the pace set by the previews so far we might be in for an all-timer

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>>23713563
If you want a fight simply say, "It's hard to tell." and let her smoke on it. If you want to move on say, "I love you too." What is this meandering onions shit? Crying bit aside, it's the woman's string of responses that sound like they belong to a man.

>> No.23713754

Why is most fantasy always so serious all the time. Besides a quip there's very little humor. Do fantasy authors not know how to write comedy or integrate comedic scenes into their stories? Can't they add one fart joke?

>> No.23713860

>>23713662
It's so annoying because the premise is interesting but the stories themselves are a slog.

>> No.23713871

>>23713754
All they know is copy ASOIAF.

>> No.23713901

>>23713687
he writes the same book every time so yes we do like it

>> No.23713929

>>23713500
epic post. i can't find the upvote button here haha :DD

>> No.23713968

>>23706199
>>23706805
in the spirit of Arrogant Young Master, you can try Master, This Poor Disciple Died Again Today
completed on royalroad, MC gets isekaid into cultivationland and plays dead when he has to fight. funny but not very serious

>> No.23713981

>>23713968
NTA
I like This Poor Disciple but it's just a worse version of A Will Eternal

>> No.23713993

>>23713981
I haven't read A Will Eternal but I will now. Have you read I Just Wont Play By The Book? Another funny one

>> No.23714043

I feel embarrassed even asking this, but I'm replaying Dragon Age: Origins on the offhand chance that Veilguard is good when it drops in October. Probably not. It's all slop.
Are the novels good or even worth bothering with? I see one of them has been written by the dude who penned KOTOR (David Gaider) so who knows. Might be worth a sloppy shameful read?

>> No.23714056

>>23714043
you should eat some oats

>> No.23714096

>>23714043
>I feel embarrassed
>It's all slop
>sloppy shameful read
Why are you like this? If you're considering reading a Dragon Age book you're obviously a fan of the game, there's no shame in that. It seems like a pretty decent game, it's not a crime to read a book based on a video game.

>> No.23714114

>>23714043
a good while ago i decided to try reading the novel, which at the time was the only one, and it was literally the worst book i had ever read. not that i read the whole thing i dropped it pretty fast.

>> No.23714118

>>23713670
>We'll keep talking, we'll wait until you're comfortable
Translation:
>I am going to gaslight and guilt-trip you until you agree with me
Disgusting. Why did I bother reading this.

>> No.23714132

>>23714096
I was thinking of going through the series again just because it's been so long since a decent Bioware-style game with alright companions came out, and thought it could be cool to have a multimedia experience (now with even an anime, comics and novels), but of course it's Dragon Age so it's likely not "good" and most of the people who sing its praises are teen gays and Reddit troons. It's hard to get an objective view outside of that unfortunately.

>>23714114
Brutal. I wonder if it would be funny to pirate the ebook just to see how bad it gets.

>> No.23714174

>>23713670
I can't believe I read this disgusting shit.

>> No.23714192

>>23713637
I got filtered by the gay baby rape in the first story.

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>>23710237
Purchas His Pilgrims
Typee
Richard Burton
How I Found Livingstone in Central Africa
Mungo Park

>> No.23714454

>>23714043
I read them a decade ago, when I was into DA. Even then I could tell they were not good.
I remember agreeing with these reviews of the first 2:
https://goldenpigsy.blogspot.com/2009/11/dragon-age-stolen-throne-review.html
https://goldenpigsy.blogspot.com/2011/11/dragon-age-calling-review.html
>Does it all sound like generic fantasy plot #5? It is generic fantasy plot #5, and Gaider doesn’t do much to make it worth reading. The pacing in the first half janks about due to it being primarily about Maric’s military campaign, and settles into a rote dungeon crawling sequence for much of the final act. But one might forgive the plotting were it not for the characterization, which reeks of cliché. Maric is blonde, handsome, and noble; he loves his subjects and cares for people to a fault. He’s naïve. He’s unsure of himself and incompetent as a strategist. Yet all the women love him, and he inspires hope among every warrior he meets with what Gaider calls “infectious charm,” and I call grating attempts at sophomoric wit, always ready with some flaccid quip when the tone gets too serious. He’s the self-portrait a lot of nerds paint when they’re being dishonest. He’s destined to not suck

>> No.23714458

>>23714228
I'll check those but that's not fantasy. Thank you anyway

>> No.23714463

>>23713710
If it keeps up the trend set by the last 2 books it's going to be 40% too long and full of shit any editor with balls would tell him to cut.

BS has always told interesting stories in a boring way and he relies way too much on "all the things happening at once" to try and give it a grand feeling.

After the slog that was sections of RoW I'm honestly scared by the fact this one is longer.

>> No.23714467

>>23714043
>>23714454
Though to be fair the first 2 were probably the worst. There's another one by Gaider and one by Patrick Weeks that were marginally less bad as I recall, and then one about griffons that was just dull and forgettable.

>> No.23714478

>>23714043
Maybe try Ryan Cahill's The Bound and the Broken series.

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>>23714454
>>23714467
Great, thanks for the response. Hilarious reviews. Sounds like they're worth skipping and not even worth a guilty escapist read. I'm half considering not even replaying the games given how the lead writer for the new one is a grown man with deep mental health issues who uses bluesky to spam his pozzed political clapbacks all day long.

>> No.23714504

>>23714458
I got into the real stuff because there's a lot of it, and so far as I know, fantasy has nothing similar. I'm "trying" to write one.

>> No.23714527

>>23714504
Good luck. I thought about writing something similar too but the amount of work you need to do just for the world building is immense. I assume Tolkien wrote so many unpublished stories for that very reason.

>> No.23714703

>>23714454
>"Read Like a Pig"
>Eragon
now I have no reason to defend the DA books, but come on

>> No.23714760

Could you brief me about:

1. Forest Kingdom Series by Simon R. Green (Blue Moon Rising, etc)

2. The Coldfire Trilogy by C.S. Friedman (Black Sun Rising, etc)

3. Anthony Ryan works (Raven's Shadow/The Draconis Memoria/Covenant of Steel trilogies)

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>>23713695
>I don't read books written by Jews.
>[Psalms quote]

>> No.23714771

>>23714766
He didn't read that either.

>> No.23714775

My pet peeve is how everyone calls magic "magic systems now" not every magic is a system, sometimes it doesn't need to be explained.

>> No.23714833

Can anyone recommend a good resource to find a book you've forgotten the name of?

I found a book in one of those free libraries years ago but never finished it before losing it on a train.

Unfortunately it just had one of those old blank hardback covers so I've not been able to identify it that way. And I only vaguely recall the plot, something about a Victorian spy who's wife got possessed and taken to India.

Is reddit the best place for these things now?

>> No.23714847

>>23714775
an unexplained system is still a system

>> No.23714984

>>23714833
uh
you could try asking on r/tipofmytongue?
i mean that unironically, one of the few helpful ones

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hello, based department?

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Just finished 3,000 pages of this absolute garbage, please for the love of God rec me something good

>> No.23715197

>>23706188
To the far shore. Bad name, excellent writing even for professionally published standards.
Also, Pale lights.

>> No.23715264

>>23715193
I can shill you my book, Cherno Caster.
Gets compared to Perdido Street Station a lot. I don't know if that's good since I haven't read it. It's also newly out on amazon go buy it right now shillshillshillshillshill

>> No.23715271

>>23715197
Oh, this is the same guy that does Slumrat Rising. Yeah, I can see the writing being great in that case.

>> No.23715307

>>23714775
Same. I like some things to be a mystery in my fiction and magic is one of them. When you break it down into a science it takes the fun out of it imo.

>> No.23715337

>>23714760
>3. Anthony Ryan works (Raven's Shadow/The Draconis Memoria/Covenant of Steel trilogies)
>>23708169

>> No.23715343

>>23715193
The Sten Chronicles
Well World
Uplift Saga
Galactic Center Saga

>> No.23715515

What's a good palate cleanser after years of repetitive HP fanfics that I stuck with because they were a familiar and comfy setting?

>> No.23715521

>>23715264
NTA but
>femc
why do you guys do this?

>> No.23715532
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Read Tenebroum

>> No.23715539

>>23710485
You’re a retard fuck off back to discord >>23713500
What talent?

>> No.23715561

>>23712009
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0r2x7G0hwCw&pp=ygURc2NpIGZpIGdhbGF4eSBtYXA%3D

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>>23715521
in this specific case, the thought was literally just "what if detective... but detective is also femme fatale..."
the character design originated as a background character idea for my other novel, Retribution Engine, but I felt it would be a waste to have her just be a background character

but also mmmm hot dangerous lady

>> No.23715664

>>23713605
I don't know when I'll be re-reading the Wheel of Time but I know it will definitely feel like a completely different story for sure.

>> No.23715755

>>23715515
which ones did you like the best? i have read these >>23704033

>> No.23715939

In newest interview, GRRM says he wishes he wrote ASOIAF the same way Gene Wolfe wrote BOTNS, which is to say, finished it before sending the first book out to be published

>> No.23715947

>>23715939
He also disses Sanderson, not by name, by saying magical systems aren't real magic, they're fake science, and that he doesn't like the trend.

>> No.23716060

>>23715939
>GRRM says he wishes he wrote ASOIAF
If only he had the time?!

>> No.23716067

>>23715521
>why do you guys do this?
Boobies

>> No.23716079

>>23713625
Holy filtered bugman fuck off your insanity-inducing squid is another castle.

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>>23715585

>> No.23716230

>>23715947
I agree with him. In real life magic is irrational and natural science is rational. The only thing that differentiates Sanderson's magic from physics is that it is inherited or acquired quality of people (biological systems). So, Sanderson's magic is like biophysics or psychobiology, like telekinesis (nobody calls telekinesis as magic)

>> No.23716254

>>23716230
That would explain why a lot of other fictional settings with elaborate magical systems don't outright call them "magic", and when actual magic is introduced, it's something else entirely.

>> No.23716316

>>23716230
>>23716254
>semantics
why does any of this matter? even Sanderson only calls them magic systems outside of the books in a meta sense, in-universe it's all called investiture or invested arts as a whole because they're all rooted in the same core principles

>> No.23716329

>>23716316
>magical systems aren't real magic, they're fake science
Anyway, magic systems and mechanical magic are boring. They are OK in games, but in books they destroy all "magical" vibes.

>> No.23716331

>>23716329
>they destroy all "magical" vibes.
so?

>> No.23716339

>>23716329
again you're crying over vibes and semantics but not really explaining why that's a bad thing or why it matters
despite not feeling "magical" enough by some nebulous personal asspull critera (like REAL magic) it's still very fun to read about, write and speculate about

>> No.23716359

I agree with the sentiment and hate overenhineered magic systems but fundamentally for characters to be able to use magic it has to be rational, they have to on some level know what they're doing. I think the only way you could have a truly mystical form of magic would be to only ever have it used by non-POV characters, so you never have to actually talk about it.

>> No.23716383

>>23716331
So it becomes slop.

>>23716339
>it's still very fun to read about, write and speculate about
Only if you are a humanities scholar by education.

>> No.23716391

>>23715947
based, only autistic retards that don't touch grass like magic systems.

>> No.23716401

>>23716339
>speculate about
It's interesting to speculate about something "mystical". If it has laws, I would better speculate about real physics, not about someone's silly fantasies.

>> No.23716406

>>23716401
no it really isn't, if the entire magic system just comes down to whatever the fuck the author needs to asspull at any given moment for the plot to work there's nothing to even speculate about

>> No.23716414

>>23716406
Sanderson frequently asspulls his characters getting better at magic when its needed to extricate them from a situation

>> No.23716418

>>23716383
>So it becomes slop.
Less sloppy than just slapping plain ol' magic onto your fantasy world

>> No.23716444

>>23716406
Nah. We have irrational magic (occult and esoteric) systems in real life, mainly prediction of the future (runes, tarot cards, astrology, palmistry), demonology, love magic, voodoo, shamanism, etc. They are interesting to speculate about. It's not interesting to speculate about "you eat 1 ounce of metal and then fart 3 kJ of magic energy".

>> No.23716572

>>23709069
On page ~100 of 400 and our protagonist's adventure is finally getting underway proper. There's is so much chaff. Were this same premise given to Lovecraft he would have condensed all of these events onto a business card.
>And through a series of events that do not bear repeating I find myself in Kentucky
Bam. Done.

>> No.23716573 [DELETED] 

>>23716444
Astrology is systematic and people have been speculating about it for all of human history.

>> No.23716592

>>23716573
>Astrology is systematic
It' like everybody has his own astrological system. Babylonians and other ancient guys, who developed astrology, didn't know about Neptune, Uranus, etc, for example.

>> No.23716595

>>23716230
>real life magic is irrational and natural science is rational.
Magic is often rational. It's just based on faulty premises.

God made plants and animals fir mankind's benefit. Therefore their forms give a clue as to their uses. An eye shaped flower must be medicine for the eyes. This is the "doctrine of signatures".

Wrong but not irrational.

>> No.23716623

>>23716595
I don't agree with you about rationality, but anyway what you're talking about it's not "fake science" energy transformation/power conversion, like Sandeson/Jordan magic systems. Jordan's saidin/saidar is basically a fucking thermal reservoir from thermodynamics.

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I think the big thing most fantasy magic loses vs 'real' magical practice is the ritual element.
Most of it involved doing something really pedantic in the hope of receiving a vague benefit that could happen by chance anyway.
Much closer to prayer than what post-Tolkein fantasy magic became

>> No.23716654

magic should just be alien technology

>> No.23716661

>>23716230
Tell me you've never actually looked into real historical mystic traditions without telling me

>> No.23716664

>>23716661
Mystical traditions were mostly a larp and should be understood as something separate from folk belief in magic

>> No.23716668

>>23716644
>is the ritual element.
This and the transcendental/incognizable element. If you know exactly how it works, you can make an industrial revolution.

>> No.23716669

Any good space or superhero webnovel out worth reading? Anything but the the stuff made by Wildbow please.

>> No.23716674

>>23716654

What series does this incredibly well?

>> No.23716677

>>23716668
Yeah that's exactly what's happening in the cosmere and it's cool

>> No.23716691

>>23716677
Mistborn Era 2? As I understand (I didn't read it), their industrial revolution is based on general physics (steampunk), not on allomancy.

>> No.23716695

>>23716674
The king's one.

>> No.23716710

>>23716691
no the entire cosmere is moving up the tech tree and incorporating magic into it

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>>23716572
Well now.

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>female general, female pilot, female soldier, female scientist, female assassin, female knight, female chieftain, female cop, female boss, female male, female main character, female viewpoint character

>> No.23716772

>>23716669
There's already a ton of space recs ITT. I personally really like Super Supportive despite that one arc being boring as fuck. I'd stick through it.

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>>23716771
>not wanting to impregnate all of them

>> No.23716803

>>23716674
Lord of Light. i also just finished Superluminary, it has some of it too but it's completely different book. not as good but good also

>> No.23716819

>>23716772
Ah, I have that habit of going all the way down in general threads and then post. I´ll read from the top again then, thank you

>> No.23716964

>>23716819
I won't begrudge you, sometimes most of the thread is shitposting with barely any recs.

>> No.23716986

>>23716444
Underrated trips and true.

>> No.23717000

>the smile never reached their eyes

Why does every master manipulator fail at having a convincing fake smile, is this an impossibly superhuman feat as every sffg book presents it as?

>> No.23717009

>>23712623
>And their credibility in making such stringent demands is what?
They're pretty much the only existant small publisher for pulp that's not a thinly-veiled attempt to turn pulps into yet another faghag schlick fantasy and they have something of a name in those circles due to it.
Obviously not a big step above self-publishing, so if you're already succesful there it's probably not worth it, but that they make their requirements clear from the get-go is honestly a lot better than the big publisher who tells you to suck up to publisher agents who have both open and obscured demands like token heroines, homosexual sex scenes, YA copying the latest fad and will reject you if you're not a white woman or a minority who didn't go to the right school.

>> No.23717017

>>23712221
I dropped it early on in the first book.
The first half is misanthropic woe-is-me misery porn then it shifted gears to crying woe-is-me misery porn and I just lost interest.

>> No.23717091

>>23717000
Yes, yes it is.

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Any novels similar to the Thief series? Low, dark fantasy, common man unraveling a conspiracy. Bonus points if the protagonist is a criminal themselves.

>> No.23717166

>>23717145
The Long Moonlight comes to mind since it's directly based on Thief
but it's kinda shit

>> No.23717200

>>23716771
Yes yes you are gay. No need to tell the world

>> No.23717218

>>23717166
How come?

>> No.23717247

>>23717145
There is Iconoclasts Series by Mike Shel about visiting of horror dungeons.

>> No.23717261

>>23717200
>he self inserts as the female protagonist
back at ya

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>>23717261
>he can only read a book if he self-inserts

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>>23717265
>he pretends not to self insert

>> No.23717277

>>23717269
I don't, why should I? I read a book for what it is.

>> No.23717282

>>23717277
Fair enough.

>> No.23717288

>>23717218
tldr it's the first book the author wrote and it got sales only because he has an enormous pre-existing audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQKxoBG8GI8

>> No.23717307

>>23717269
>he self-inserts into fictional characters

>> No.23717311

>>23717269
are you pretending to be retarded?

>> No.23717322

>>23716079
Very millennial post.

>> No.23717325

>>23717311
anon you have to understand sub-90IQ brainlets can't even begin to comprehend something as basic as not automatically self-inserting into every character they read about
they barely have the mental bandwidth to internally simulate the feelings of another person that is right in front of them let alone hold within their minds multiple fictitious characters, it all has to be them

>> No.23717327

>>23717265
Nta but for me it has nothing to do with inserting myself into the character(s), and more to do with not being interested in female protagonists. Women are not interesting.

>> No.23717332

>>23717325
I blame our schools

>> No.23717333

>>23717325
I'd argue it's more about immaturity than IQ but retards like you make everything about intelligence.

>> No.23717335

>>23717325
is this why so many people from low iq shithole countires are obessed with shonen animes?

>> No.23717353

>>23717335
yes

>> No.23717362

>>23717327
We've been through this, we don't need to know that you're gay.

>> No.23717367

>>23717362
The only person who writes women well is Bakker

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>>23717367
>writes
>well
>Bakker

>> No.23717384

>>23717362
I can't think of anything gayer than being interested in women beyond their physicality. They have nothing of import rolling around in their skulls.

>> No.23717397

>>23717384
there is. you finding pleasure only around the company of men.

>> No.23717398

>>23717384
You're a sad person desu

>> No.23717402

>>23717397
i doubt any men tolerate his presence either

>> No.23717405

>>23717397
>>23717398
>t.me raised by single mom

>> No.23717409

>>23717367
>the only person who writes women well likes gay rape
>female MC lovers like bakker
full circle, really

>> No.23717426

>>23717384
they hate him because he told a painful truth.
Many such cases

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>>23717426
kid you not besides family I don't recall ever giving a girl who I didn't want to bang my time and attention. do other guys actually do this?

>> No.23717474

>>23717458
girls have cooties we don't interact with them

>> No.23717741

>>23716669
Mech Touch

>> No.23717806

>>23717741
can't find it

>> No.23717822

>>23717806
???
i google searched and misspelled the title and it still came up

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>>23717822
dunno what to tell you dude

>> No.23717833

>>23715264
I asked about you in the last thread fagget and you couldn't answer me, now you coming in here to shill? >>23701081

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>>23717831
skill issue

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>>23717833
I wasn't here last thread. I come around every one in a while.
But yeah I did post a couple cover variants a while back.
picrel was the original wn cover

coincidentally the same guy that scouted me for moonquill helped me with the typography a few months earlier

>>23717831
came up just fine for me
https://www.webnovel.com/book/the-mech-touch_10636300105085505

>> No.23717866

>>23717335
You know Klapistan is obsessed with shonen anime, right? I'm glad you burgers admit that you are a shithole country. I'm sure on your way from clapping in the cinema you and friends did the naruto run.

>> No.23717890

>>23717865
0/10 would not bang

>> No.23717954

>>23717474
show bob
for real though it was such a non sequitur you are at the very least female-brained
he admits that women interest him sexually, just not spiritually/intellectually
>>23717865
she's ugly as hell

>> No.23718042

What fantasy books have the most unironically sexist depictions of women? Preferably with a good amount of smut as well.

>> No.23718056

>>23718042
Fafrd and grey mouser

>> No.23718136

>>23717863
>>23717831
>>23717865
Literal skill issue.
I was reading "Med Touch" the entire time. Not even dyslexic.

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>>23707343
I'm enjoying The Villains' Code series by Drew Hays. Forging Hephaestus is an alright start, definitely, a better start than his previous superhero series, which I enjoyed but can't really recommend, but the second book, Bones of the Past, is a lot better, especially if you're more interested in the heroes than the villains since the heroes get a lot more attention. I really was not expecting to like the Fantastic 4 knockoff team in the book anywhere near as much as I did.

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>>23717954
>>23717890
Not really a problem, even if I disagree. The story doesn't exactly hinge on her being attractive.

A great deal more "she had murder behind her eyes" than descriptions of her appearance.

>> No.23718332

who's the best sci-fi short story writer?

>> No.23718402

>>23715947
based, but also he literally does the same thing with

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>the spider cult has been around for literal millennia
>in that time, NONE of them (except Kit apparently) have managed to figure out the difference between truth and belief
>also their goddess who literally lives in their temple was secretly a prop this whole time and none of them realized

I spent the entire last book expecting the reveal that Basrahip and the other high priests have bamboozled the entire cult since time immemorial, but instead it turns out that they were pawns just like everybody else. Is Daniel Abraham mentally retarded?
I'm genuinely scared of the possibility that this is who Gurm will pick to finish A Dream of Spring once he kicks the bucket.