/lit/ - Literature

>>>/ic/

That being said, they don't know a single fucking thing about art.

Just got this on canvas. First living author i've found that doesn't piss me off with 2deep4me abstraction. Plus, his use of color is refreshing. All the classical artists went through a phase like the vidya industry is today, just post-apocalyptic brown.

>>2352848

>buying reproductions instead of supporting starving artists

Not to mention it's a much better investment if you do it right.

>>2352844

Oh shit! I had no idea. Thanks bro. Unfortunately, after looking at that board, I do not even want to be anywhere near the people who post there... All I see is anime threads and strange art program tutorials... I know /lit/ has a bit more class than them!

>>2352839
Abstract expressionism ftw.
Fuck the haters.

>>2352858
I bought it straight from Afremov's website. It was more expensive, but I do love his work.

>>2352848

I absolutely love that painting man.. Thanks for that find.. I'm gonna try to purchase it. I see the file name, but can you give me a complete title of the work and the author's name as well? Thanks man!

>>2352839
>>2352848

You fuckers just posted my two favourite art works.

>>2352862
>mfw I made that in preschool with a tray, some paper and paint and marbles
>mfw Pollock will always be 2deep4me
>mfw he represents something in art that I will always rebel against
>mfw if I had any kind of influence I would usher in 'Post-post-postmodernism,' a more conservative era of art with tighter restrictions on what can be considered art
>mfw walking past abstract artists with no talent on the street and not giving them any money

It's a dream of mine.

>>2352877
His name is Leonid Afremov.

Everything he does is beautiful.

http://www.afremov.com/

>>2352893
Cubism, then?

>>2352893

But bro!!! None of the artists that ushered in new eras of art had influence. Most of the names you hear nowadays (like impressionism, fauvism, post modernism, etc.) were not realized until after the artist in question's death.

>>2352900
If I must die for my vision, then so be it!

Beret-wearers will tremble at my name. Fingerpainters will wet themselves. My reign of tyrrany will outlast even my crumbling bones. The aftereffects will be felt for centuries. Classicism will rule with an iron fist and art critics will have to get real jobs because there will be only one possible interpretation of a work! Muaahahhaha!

I hate when people do threads like this.

>This is Hemingway. He is [blablabla teaching /lit/]. Now your turn.

C'mon, man...

>>2352844
This is true.

>>2352848
You're not looking hard enough. Not at all. People moved away from abstract a bit since the 80's, imo. And fuck, abstractionism is glorious... Specially expressionist ones.

And I don't know what you see in that guy. There is no amazing technique, no particular pallete and very dull themes with nothing to say. He is not relevant to art, he is famous on the internet alone, he pleases old ladies and young kids.

It's like you people have never been to a museum at all!

I'm sorry, I really don't want to sound condescending, but it makes me sad that people don't really appreciate visual arts as much as they could. They are either living in the past or they just appreciate industrial illustration... There is so much more to it and people often misjudge on contemporary artists mostly because they don't know, they don't actually go see it or try to think about it, create something. There is no intention in amplifying the artistic experience.

Here's another classic. This painting, although very popular already, still touches a nerve in all humans that no other work has been able to recreate. It's scary, relatable, nauseating, beautiful, profound, genius....

Let it sink in. The man or woman screaming has no race.. no color.. no ethnicity.. no gender.. no nothing... he is the scream...

>>2352915

OP Here

What's wrong with what I said? I'm not imposing my views on anyone! I simply stated what Van Gogh wanted his painting to communicate and what I felt his painting communicated.

I'm sorry if I seemed pretentious. It's hard to be genuine over the internet!

>>2352915
Is that Lucien Freud?
His work is very good.
How about Francis Bacon?

>>2352915

>people aren't appreciating visual arts
>OP makes post appreciating visual arts
>be an asshole to him

>>2352933

He spoke the truth.

The truth sometimes hurts.

>>2352915
I love Lucian Freud. He strikes a perfect balance for me between realism and an expressionistic/experimental style.

2deep4u

>>2352946
Better.

>>2352924
You're cool, OP. It just seemed a bit weird the way you put it.

>>2352928
I love Francis Bacon. I really do.

Can anyone give me some good ideas, or inspiration for a painting? My mind's dry when it comes to ideas.

I love this painting

Pandora I - Jules Joseph Lefebvre

The girl looks like a virginal bitch, i love that

>>2352970

what do you think about when i say this:

"the only real philosophical problem is suicide"

>>2352970

>Can anyone give me some good ideas, or inspiration for a painting? My mind's dry when it comes to ideas.

You will never make a good piece of art.

>>2352976
Sounds like something Camus would say.

>>2352977
If this thread's still up by tomorrow I'll post some of my work.

>>2352946
You see this one was made to be the most contemplative blue possible coming from a guy who knew A LOT about color.

But abstract is the hardest type of art to be reproduced. This image doesn't do any justice to the real work. It's a completely different thing.

And just like with any artfrom, there is nothing there to "get". What you get is the experience from it. Figurative art shows something we can easily associate with the real world, even though it is just paint on canvas. That's why most people enjoy the figurative over tha abstract. The abstract requires some thinking over the painting itself, whether it's an impressionist painting showing the brush strokes on the contrary of the photography being developped at the time, or Klee's studies of form.

>>2352951
Ryman painted each and every one of those with white and the white is different in each one. What is white anyway? How can you reproduce it? There are several kinds of white in the painting world, because they are all coming from pigments anyway. Ryman studied a lot of how framing works. How does the context affect the piece? Some of his paintings are on the floor, others hanging, others nailed, how does the experience change from one to the other?

I don't blame seeing a tiny picture on the internet and saying it's nonsense...

>>2353003

>If this thread's still up by tomorrow I'll post some of my work.

I'll be waiting.

Ok, some references for you:

Ways of Seeing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnfB-pUm3eI

The Shock of the New
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZsQl6L9WCI

Great website:
http://butdoesitfloat.com/

>>2353015
me too

I like Baroque.

Madonna of the Goldfinch - Raphael

In addition to just being a completely gorgeous piece of art, I love the story behind its restoration. I met one of the men who worked on it, Dr. Henry DePhilips, and he told me about the way they removed old varnish so it wasn't yellowed and its brilliant colors were finally shown.

Gare Montparnasse, De Chirico

I advise long staring

any love for hopper?
I love the feel of emptyness and dispair in his work

>>2352985
Wow. That's really clever and subversive.

Fag.

>>2353106
it is powerful tho.

>>2353106
art always was propaganda, so It's good

>>2353105

beautiful

>>2353106
Well, if you see this to work everyday it might put things in perspective.

>>2353092
I love Hopper.

Dali.

good ol' Lebrun

>>2353154
I've never really appreciated any art. There's awesome stuff in this thread.

Is that on black canvas?

>2012
>figurative art
ISHIGGYDIGGY

>>2353181
Not sure, sorry!

>>2353239

>>2353188
>seascape
>2012

>>2353243

>>2352839

I love (how do you even say it?) Memento Moris

>>2352897
His art makes me feel like he acts like Lord Byron.

the hell part of my favorite last judgment

>>2353254
whoops forgot my pic

>>2353250

wish I could find a nice poster print of this one

How has this not been posted yet

>>2353265

that's a fucking amazing piece of art right there

Books on art, anyone? Time to get cultured up in this bitch.

>>2353272
here, have the 'male' version

>>2353283

>>2353279
On Beauty and On Ugliness by Umberto Eco seem pretty interesting. haven't been able to get either from the library yet, though, they're always being put on holds!

>>2353285

>>2353297
http://pastebin.com/w9bzLmFE

>>2353306
Got any more cool bestiality art?

>>2353297
>>2353307
http://pastebin.com/PrRhnRkd

>>2353181
No, it's not. That is mostly a thing for digital artworks or in paper (some comic books are done in black paper). The raw canvas is always the color of the light fabric it is made of.

>>2353279
I second Umberto Eco's ones, I have both of them. Also, pic related goes a long way with history of art.

>>2353308

Here you go.

andrew wyeth

>>2353322
>The raw canvas is always the color of the light fabric it is made of
Eh? Generally one sizes and primes the canvas, though of course it depends on the effect you want. In general, the colour of raw canvas has little to do with anything.

>>2353322
Vigee-Lebrun did use black canvas for some of her paintings. Not the particular one posted as far as I know, but using black canvas was/is not "pretty much digital or paper" only...

>>2353351
Cool I've never seen this before.
Nice thread, really. I'm surprisingly finding a lot of very good new (for me) stuff.

my personal fave, i could look at van goghs shit all day

>>2353422
That's kind of amazing. In a fucked-up sort of way of course.

another classic

Do they look like they're moving and having a great time, or do they look like they're forever frozen in time?

Decide for yourself.

>>2353432

same man.. he's unsurpassable..

a true genius...

this ones my favorite of his.

>>2353432
Nice one. I could never understand the fucking sunflowers though...

obligatory

>>2353250
Close.

Memento mori I believe. Possibly memento more.

>>2353432
them colors

Michael Harrington, "Group Calling"

>>2353465

OP here.

Dear God I absolutely love this work...Thanks brother!

I've been really reading up a lot on absurdity and that picture revels in it, am i right?

Once again, thanks man!

>not dropping into endless despair and painting timeless classics

>>2353391
I know, but that was kind of what I was saying. They prepare the canvas and all, but the canvas itself is not black.

>>2353402
...Or it is. I honestly did not know that.

>>2353439
That's his last one, btw.

>>2353453
I think he meant the plural of the word. It's certainly "memento mori" alone. Plural just don't work...

pic is Magritte's Voice of Space

kurt seligmann

this nigs a boss

>>2353473
It is a bit too quiet for "absurd" to have occurred to me, but I see what you mean. Its eeriness is what struck me.

I got a chance to see this piece at my local art museum, the Nelson-Atkins. If you live in the Kansas City area and you've never visited, you are missing out big time. The site is extraordinary and as a major history/art nerd I pretty much could spend days in there. It's a perfect atmosphere. I love modern works just as much as classical (expressionism is my favorite artistic interpretation) but this piece just spoke volumes to me. The relaxed way they handle themselves, the softness of it all. The title is "Brothers", I believe. I would have to look up the artist. It's Romantic Era, obviously.

>>2352917
>>2352917

The figure isn't actually doing the screaming - the landscape is screaming and the weird sexless creature is agonised by it.
> I was walking along a path with two friends – the sun was setting – suddenly the sky turned blood red – I paused, feeling exhausted, and leaned on the fence – there was blood and tongues of fire above the blue-black fjord and the city – my friends walked on, and I stood there trembling with anxiety – and I sensed an infinite scream passing through nature.

Francisco Goya, "A Procession of Flagellants"

>>2353482
The canvas itself is not black, but afaik "black canvas" just means it was prepared with black paint/color/etc

>>2353485
Seeing art in person just makes it come alive. I was shocked to see how much amazing art was at the Detroit Institute of Arts when I went this year. Pic related

Joseph Wright, "An Experiment on a Bird in the Air Pump"

>>2352862
Painting is a state of being…Painting is self-discovery. Every good painter paints what he is. -Jackson Pollock

One of my favourite art quotes ever.

Jasper Johns, "Map"

Thomas Eakins, "Salutat"

>>2353489
Correct. You can even prime with several colours, and leave some canvas fairly exposed and absorbent if you do the sizing (or use sandpaper). There are no hard and fast rules, though usually you don't want the picture to rot, and you want to be able to apply paint in a certain way to get certain effects.

Arnold Böcklin - Die Toteninsel (Isle of the Dead)

J.M.W. Turner, "Eruption of Vesuvius"

my actual wallpaper

Vincent van Gogh, "Skull With a Burning Cigarette"

Masuyama Sessai

Giotto di Bondone, "St. Francis Preaches to the Birds"

>>2353532

awesome... need a name please bro...

John Singer Sargent, "Muddy Alligators"

>>2353534
Are we doing Saint Francis? Contribution! I had never been moved by religious art before I saw this piece, and I was awestruck for a good fifteen minutes just admiring all the nuances of this.

Greek Slave by Jean-Léon Gérôme,, unfinished because it was stolen from his studio

Jacob van Ruisdael, "Landscape With a View of Haarlem"

>>2353542
It's Fucking Escher. Baddass as always. This dragon is definitely my favorite of all of his works, I can't understand how come it's is one of his least famous paintings...

Jean Jules Antoine Lecomte du Noüy

Wayne Barlowe
I love his series about Hell.

Martin Mull, "Comedian"

"Tango of the Archangel"

>>2353626
>dealwithit.jpg

Pablo Picasso's most important painting. Also his fucking creepiest.

Have we had enough Van Gogh?

>>2353644

>>2353650

>>2353648

you can never have enough van gogh

btw i really enjoyed those scientific sketches you posted.. absolutely beautiful... got any more?

>>2353666

Dude. I love you. No homo.

My history teacher introduced that painting to me and I instantly fell in love.

Thank you.

Also

>dat 666

>>2353657
Oh yeah, lots.
Ernst Haeckel's the artist.
http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/haeckel/radiolarien/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunstformen_der_Natur

JMW Turner
Fishermen at Sea

made me want to try painting

Levitan

>>2353489
>>2353508
Yeah, I misunderstood that.

>>2353529
Beautiful, never saw that one...

>>2353532
>>2353542
>>2353564
I think his dragon is preety famous. I went to an exposition of his prints last year, and they had huge installations that reproduced some illusions.

If you like him, check the work of Istvan Orosz. This is a reference to Velazquez Meninas.

>>2353687
Forgot pic.

>>2353686

Whoops wrong one.

"Jacqueline with crossed hands"

>>2353694
lol

René Magritte

Mary Blair

My favorite.

>>2353707
I love Magritte.

I've always loved this sculpture of Louis XVII by Catherine Cairn. Seems like it'd be particularly striking in person, as well.

have this thread archived

Sure is lacking contemporary Japanese pop artists.

>>2353824
Why.

Do non-existent political buildings matter? If so,

>>2353831

Why does everyone still agree with the Vasarian critique of Tintoretto that he had no steadfast composition?

>look at dat halo arrangement
>look at dem gestures
>look at dat narrative created by the elevation of the two thieves
>look at that crying horse

>>2353841

Tintoretto has haters?
I didnt know such philistines existed.

Made me respect the Chinese, whereas I previously thought they were just a pseudo-culture hanging onto remnants of pathetic Ming vases.

>>2353843

Vasari brah. Look that shit up.

AH! not enough DALÍ! HE WOULD ME MAAAAD.

>>2352941
Lee Bontecou! WOOO

>>2353831
No its not. There's plenty ITT

>>2352904

Marcel Duchamp did a single cubist painting in his time. It's fucking brilliant. Single most important artist of the 20th C imo.

Walking throughout the subway I couldn't help but stare at this face.

>>2353891
DALÍ isn´t impressed.

>>2353105
I know nothing about art but I love this painting. Who painted this?

>>2353906

it says in the file name :)

>>2353895
Max Ernst isn't impressed with Dali

>>2353911

"max ernst" is the best mission of burma song

>>2353105
How does one go about acquiring this piece of art?

No Mucha? I am appalled!

>>2353939

>>2353940

>>2353941

>>2353946

>>2353949

>>2353950

>>2353950
>>2353949
>>2353946

yeah these own

>>2353952

>>2353956

>>2353960

Always loved Mucha's design and over the top schmaltz.
The most I ever spent on a book was this one.

>>2353962

>>2352915

>but it makes me sad that people don't really appreciate visual arts as much as they could.

If someone has to work to like some piece of art then they shouldn't.

>>2353964

I've been meaning to get one of his books.

How much did it put you back?

>>2353969

>>2353970

>>2353971

>>2353974

>>2353250
memento mori

Klimt up in here.

shamelessly ripped from darkclassics blog

Strathmann's curious work occupies an intermediate position between the art of painting and the crafts. His paintings are strange concoctions studded with colored glass and artificial gems, foreshadowing similar extravagances by the Viennese Jugendstil painter Gustav Klimt. In Strathmann's painting Salammbô, inspired by Flaubert's novel, the Carthaginian temptress reclines on a carpet spread out on a flower-strewn meadow. Swathed in veils whose design is as complex as that of the harp beside her head, she submits to the kiss of the mighty snake that encircles her. Lovis Corinth described how Strathmann, while working on the large picture, gradually covered the originally nude model with "carpets and fantastic garments of his own invention so that in the end only a mystical profile and the fingers of one hand protruded from a jumble of embellished textiles. . . . colored stones are sparkling everywhere; the harp especially is aglitter with fake jewels." According to Corinth, Strathmann knew "how to glue and sew" these on the canvas "with admirable skill."

Virginia Frances Sterrett's Old French Tales

also illustrated Arabian Nights and a selection of Greek myths

Awesome thread guys.

>>2353969
Oh sorry... Too much. Can't recall the exact price. Amazon has it around $40+ Its the most comprehensive at 300+ pages, so very worth it. imo.

It seems to me that there isn't any Caravaggio's work in this thread and it's such a pity. Take this!

>>2352943
>Dat Repin
I have this on canvas hanging in my bedroom. His work is just fascinating.

Do you think this is funny??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIs5CwOPR7A

Turner confirmed for the GOAT English artist.

Could someone explain to me how this is art? I mean, I don't hate contemporary art in any way, but this????

When I was younger I thought it was a museum piece that got really popular for no reason, until I saw it in my art history text book


>Damien Hirst

I think this is funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoTzZSU8Goo

Matthew Collings is pretty cool.

>>2354552
woops forgot the pic

>>2354579
Depends on your definition of art. I tend to think that art should express an idea of a sort, and by that definition the piece certainly qualifies as art.

(There is very little that does not qualify as art when looking at it as the artist's message to the viewer)

>>2354579

Depends on your definition of art. I tend to think that art should express an idea of a sort, and by that definition the piece certainly qualifies as art.

(There is very little that does not qualify as art when looking at it as an artist's expression to the viewer)

>>2353966
I guess you're right. Putting it in other words, it makes me sad that people don't like to work to like things, but they are fast to dismiss them...

>>2354538
Haha, if I described it to someone it would've not be funny, but the timing of the video is very good. I laughed.


>FUCK, IMAGE LIMIT...

>>2354746 cont.

>>2354552
>>2354579
>>2354639

People ask themselves if it's real or not and then they realize they are so far from nature they can't even tell, or maybe, that we have the technique to fool ourselves now. I heard of people losing their religion because of Hirst. These are powerful images. Other questions arise though: he did not do it himself, he had assistants, a real line of production for his works and he makes a lot of money too (a lot) and he is kind of an asshole. So about his process, how much of himself is there? How is it important that he does it with his own hands? Is it? Or maybe it's just okay to be like this. We don't have to jump for an answer.

I don't like the idea that art is when the artist expresses himself. Mostly because of this death of the author thing. I believe that the art of the artist happends when he is doing it, having an idea or putting it in practice. Some artists think too much, but let their assistants do the heavy work. Pollock on the other hand, for example, had very artistic experiences every time he was there, pouring paint on the canvas, letting not only the paint flow, but his thoughts flow as well, his hands, his ideas. His paintings are more of a register of the process than the process itself, but we can have a process for ourselves while seeing it anyway. I think art is less about making stuff, but transforming stuff. A photographer might only be registering a time and a place, but it is his artistic intuition that guided him to take the shot at that particular moment. The same happends at ready made art. I can pick a simple object from everyday life, point to it and say "look at this spoon carefully", and that would create a reaction in you, whether you like it or not, whether you think it adds to you or not.

cont.

>>2354552
>>2354579
>>2354639
I personally dislike the idea that objects can or cannot be "art", which is why I like the term "art piece", a piece that contains this artistic characteristic. In my point of view, art is the process that happends between someone and something when they stare at each other and cause an aesthetic, symbolic or contemplative state of mind on this someone. In this sense, it was not art until you learned it was not from a history museum. The same happends the other way, a scientist would not study the piece as a museum piece, as there was no scientific method to building it. But he could. Just as you could see a museum piece and have an artistic insight.

I didn't see the shark live, but I saw other works from Hirst (like pic related [image limit fucked me up, it's the cow, "Mother"] ). Don't focus on the piece, focus on how people perceive it. When you walk through the insides of a cow, within the context of an exposition, it may change the whole way you see life. It has an impact on people. His works are full of religious and scientific interpretations, they put things in perspective. Imagine the context, this huge shark right next to you, threatening, but dead, trapped inside. Rather than asking "what is the meaning of it" as most people would put it, think of what would it mean to you, in the sense of what this whole situation would do to your feelings and thoughts.

cont.

>>2354748 cont.

>>2354552
>>2354579
>>2354639

Art indeed has to express an idea, but an idea to the viewer and even the artist becomes the viewer when he says his work is "done". I like the idea that art talks through people and not from people, as if they were filters that made the internal world come out and become external, in a way that it becomes internal again later on, going through your filter, that is made of your previous references and thoughts. I don't even think art has to be man made. That's why people are able to confuse a monkey's painting as if it was a man's work. If I saw a beautiful painting that "talked" to me and later I discovered it was made by a monkey, it would surprise me, but it wouldn't make it any less beautiful, it would be beautiful in a different way. Those who fall for these "charlatans" (I can't come up with a better word) either really appreciate the piece or were fooled in the same sense of emperor's new clothes, they go along with what they think art has to be, but they were not really looking or having the artistic experience (with that or any other piece).

I can't be concise to save my life. I swear this will kill me some day.

Damien Hirst is more a brand than an artist. He gets his assistants to do everything for him.

bump for art.

Shall we make ourselves a second thread?

>>2355213

yep, in /ic/.