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/lit/, please critique my amateurish attempt at James Wright influenced surrealist poetry mixed in with some Nietzschean ideas. My humble poetic experience only consists of reading a bunch of poetry and one workshop class at college. Most of these are from what I wrote for my workshop's final collection. I am just a philosophy grad student that wants to also learn how to write good poetry.


http://pastebin.com/8iqCFMy0

also please read the 'raw paste data' instead of the one with numbered rows

>> No.2334935

writing poetry is like the absolute lowest of all liberal arts.

>> No.2334939

>>2334935
>constructed hierarchies

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>>2334935

>> No.2334942

only have time to read the first one for now but I can definitely see the Wright influence, but sometimes your word choice can be a bit archaic or too obscure; Wright's verse has a more natural flow to it that you should investigate

>> No.2334951

>>2334942
Thanks for feedback, and yeah, Wright's natural flow is friggin' hard to imitate

>> No.2334967

>>2334935
babby's first time troll

>> No.2334990

I didn't like them tbh. Unfamiliar with James Wright, but your style is prosaic. "surrealist poetry mixed in with some Nietzschean ideas" honestly probably isn't the best thing to aspire to be writing as a beginning poet. And although this is more of a personal hang-up than anything else, I detest poetry that has concept or ideas at its foundation, rather than an appreciation of/faith in/creativity with words.

If I were you I'd read more "conservative" poetry. And while I can no longer remember the specifics of it, "the poetry home repair manual" by Ted Kooser was a huge help to me when I first started writing poetry. I've seen it floating around on here as a .pdf, if you're skeptical or poor.

That all being said "In the Vat Where I Sleep" was my favorite, and there's nothing about any of those poems that suggests you're any worse at it than you might be expected to be, being new to the form.

>> No.2334996

Just gonna point out that "tired" is one syllable (referring to your syllabic poem). Diphthongs are one syllable - fire, spire, etc. I'll probably come back with some more helpful, less superficial critique in a while.

>> No.2334999

i liked them all apart from the last one, the prose poem

also, isn't prose poetry supposed to, y'know, look like prose? no line breaks and whatnot?

anyway, great stuff, OP

>> No.2335096

>>2334996
woops forgot that one is elided

though I can just change he's to he is to still fit the syllable structure too

>>2334990
here is something by James Wright, he's pretty famous in poetry for his surrealist stuff and this is his most iconic poem

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-blessing/

Also about your dislike of using concepts and ideas as a foundation -- yeah, I am still trying to develop a knack for being able to manifest abstract ideas grounded in physical descriptions

>> No.2335176

>>2335096
>pretty famous in poetry

>> No.2335274

>>2335176
he won Pulitzer Prize

though I assume you are making a sarcastic remark at the light 'pretty famous'

>> No.2335390

>>2335274
>though I assume you are making a sarcastic remark at the light 'pretty famous'

pretty sure he was doing this since James Wright is a very familiar figure to anyone in the world of poetics

>> No.2335426

>>2334935
Exactly. The only reason to do poetry is to attract bitches.

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>> No.2335502

I lol'd at how utterly arbitrary the line breaks were

>> No.2335522

>>2335502

We call that "enjambment".