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Why aren't books made of high quality materials anymore?

>> No.23347902
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23347902

What happened to thick paper in large quarto format?

>> No.23347906
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The decline of books = the decline of humanity

thanks for listening

>> No.23347910

>>23347894
>>23347902
>>23347906
you're mediterranean at best

>> No.23347915

nothing is made out of high quality materials anymore
least of all, men, who continue to march us down this path

>> No.23347918
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>>23347910
I work outside a lot and get darker. I am very pale underneath my shirt brother. btw that was a rude and off topic thing to say. what did I do to you?

>> No.23347921
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>>23347918
still med
you need to post more skin for us to make a final judgment

>> No.23347924

>>23347921
I come on /lit/ to post about my books and other things. not to talk about my skin color.

I stopped going on /soc/ in like 2012.

>> No.23347928
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>>23347924
is that when you stopped being a twink and started being a bloated italian?

>> No.23347941
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>>23347928
I am Italian yeah.

You should see what my mom looked like (she died in 1997)

I miss you mom :( one of the most beautiful people to ever live. anyway, I have her to thank for my good genes, as I basically look like a male version of her.

>> No.23347943

Library of America/La pléiade is enough for me

>> No.23347944

>>23347941
yes she was cute and you must have been a hot little twink. so sad how times change.

>> No.23347952

>>23347944
I look good for 30s bro. We all get older. Most people my age look a lot worse than me. Also my job demands extreme physical labor so of course I had to put on muscle. I don't even go to the gym.

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>>23347952
it's over

>> No.23347992

>>23347941
>ywn discuss Petrarch and Boccaccio with your Lombard gf

>> No.23348012

Nothing is made of high quality materials. Industrial production has polluted all arts.

The upshot is you can buy beautiful leather bounds from 100+ years ago for 8 burgerpoints.

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>>23347941
Your mum is qt

>> No.23348311

>>23347941
goddamn she was hot
oh sorry

>> No.23348403

>>23348311
>>23348286
She was a ballerina and was friends with Jada Smith before she met will smith. They roomed together at the school of arts in Boston

>> No.23348419

>>23347894
Some books still are made of high quality materials. Search for low-volume pressings, art pressers, those who press by hand and uphold artistic standards.

As for the why: it's a mass-production cost efficiency consideration. But there's a return to high standards with books being printed on FSC paper at least.

>> No.23348420

Because books are sincerely novelty items. Someone buys them, maybe reads them, maybe doesn’t, then puts them on a shelf to collect dust and show off to people. Even public libraries are like this. I can find books that have their physical check out cards done once in 1989 and they acquired the book in 1979. I sincerely doubt they even get touched in internet days. The old books are very struts and pretty though.

>> No.23348457

>>23348420
>Because books are sincerely novelty items.
Rare books sell for thousands of dollars. Not exactly 'noveltys' anymore

>> No.23348469

>>23347906
Yeah. Can't really disagree with that. It's a shame, even the cheaper hardbacks from 60 years ago are better than what we get today.

>> No.23348473

>>23347894
>>23347902
>>23347906
Money. Books don't make as much money anymore and a publisher doesn't have as great a guarantee of return anymore, so it's harder for them to run good profit margins with high quality.

>>23347910
100% irrelevant, simpleton. You have two or more boards on which to argue about race. Go do it there.

>>23347918
Why are you humoring him?

>> No.23348478

>>23348457
Rare anything sells for thousands of dollars. I can pick up any book I find and find a digital copy, archive, library, or database with it if I can’t order it, usually around 20 bucks or so if I can. The content is more or less the same いいえ?

>> No.23348480

>>23348478
>The content is more or less the same いいえ?
You can't look at that book I posted in the OP and tell me the content is the same. presentation = content. the mystical nature of the presentation draws you into the book. books were meant to be read on paper, not on a fucking ipad. they were meant to be beautiful. the book and what it's made of tells the story too

>> No.23348503

>>23348480
No, presentation=/=content. The book in OP serves no actual purpose other than someone wanting to say they have the biggest book. It’s not practical, you can’t store it well, you can’t even fucking hold it or read it. Whatever that retarded books says could have easily been volumized but nooo someone wanted bragging rights. Books were invented to retain information and pass it on, it was the medium. The medium has changed. You would be calling me a retard if I said reading books isn’t as immersive or effective at telling a story as stone tablets and carved hieroglyphics. Yes some books are beautiful, but I don’t pay too much attention to how they look. sometimes I look for books that camouflage themselves. Really old books, even though they were well made, are really fragile now and you can see and feel a difference after you’ve read it. And when I say content being the same, I mean different copies or editions.

>> No.23348506

>>23348503
Brother that book I'm holding is sturdy like a rock. It's bound so tight and carefully. It's an amazing thing and readable.

>> No.23348509

>>23348506
I’m sorry. You’re right, I retract my statement. Have a good night

>> No.23348561

>>23347918
post nipples to prove you're White
>brown nips = shitskin trash
>pink nips= White GOD
no homo

>> No.23348572

>>23348561
why would any other race other than whites be collecting and reading dunsany?

>> No.23348683

>>23348561
Slop

>> No.23348719

>>23348561
Utter fag. /Pol/ really has ruined this board. Look at the absolute state. A fucking imbecillic homosexual such as this one can post a request like this without a shred of irony and not one of you disgusting, shit-eating, ass-gargling, cum-dumpsters has the decency to tell him to fuck off and kill himself.

In the masculine way of old /Lit/, KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT!

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>>23347941
I LOVE MED WOMEN SO MUCH BROS ARRRRGHHHHHHHH

>> No.23348728

What the hell is this thread

>> No.23348738

>>23348728
Anons flirting with elephant anon’s dead mom?

>> No.23348739

>>23347918
>look at chad jaw
show-off

>> No.23348740

>>23348719
He said no homo

>> No.23348742

Posting in an elephant bread

>> No.23348819

>>23348561
I just looked at my nipples and they're pink. How have I never noticed this, living with them now for over 25 years?

>> No.23348824

>>23348819
KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT

>> No.23349074

>>23348719
>>>/r/eddit

>> No.23349374

>>23347941
I love your mom bro

>> No.23349578

>>23349374
She died at 27 years old from leukemia :(

>> No.23349602

>>23347941
molto carina.

>> No.23349671

>>23347894
Because parchment became too expensive compared to paper. Next question!

>> No.23349678

>>23347894
you can still buy books made of high quality materials

>> No.23349758

>>23349678
Where? The crap folio society sells for $800 is not high quality. Independent presses charge similar prices

>> No.23349773

It’s crazy that my mom died 27 years ago and there’s 10 people fawning over her in here. She really was beautiful. She didn’t deserve to die. I’m older now than she was when she died. Anyway. The internet is a crazy place.

>> No.23349783

I'm afraid just as Lord Dunsany warned us in his myriad of wonder drenched stories, that Time will forever be unforgiving and unfailing in it's slow conquest over all things. Even books made of the best quality will suffer the same fate of the pulp. Be happy and thankful that you and I and everyone got the chance to enjoy the little remnants of the old worlds long past. Who knows what the next world will have and how long that one will last? There's always the next eternity. Cheers to you fellow Lord Dunsany enjoyers. I am content as I am now.

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>>23349783
> I'm afraid just as Lord Dunsany warned us in his myriad of wonder drenched stories, that Time will forever be unforgiving and unfailing in it's slow conquest over all things.

Not if I and other collectors can stop it.

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>>23349787

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>> No.23349804

>>23349787
It's a vain gesture that you and I undertake. One that will soothe our lingering moments here, at the very least.

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My Dunsany collection is becoming great.

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>>23349804

>> No.23349813
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>> No.23349821

>>23349812
The way he described his boyhood home with moons and marigolds stuck with me. I think of moons in my own childhood hanging low over peacful lakes I frequented. I hope where ever I pass over to I will find similar moons round.

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>>23349804
It’s not vain. These only still exist today because of collectors like you and me

>> No.23349831

>>23349823
where will they go when we're gone? Time has not stopped nor will it.

>> No.23349833

>>23347918
>>23347941
Greasy ellis island mutt wop. You will never be American. Get the fuck out of my country samefag attention whore.
>>23348403
So your mother was a huge whore? Figures.

>> No.23349856

>>23349813
It's nice to see his handwritting. it's as gorgeous as it's been described.

>> No.23349874
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>>23349856
That presentation copy is very precious. It was to Hazel Littlefield Smith his biographer. All 40 of her personally inscribed copies with original poems were donated to the university of Michigan except for that one.

Also came with the original photograph. Both of these appear in his memoir from 1959. That copy with his quill on it.

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>>23349874

>> No.23349893

>>23347902
wasteful to have so few words per page

>> No.23349894
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>>23349886

>> No.23349895

>>23349874
I live in the Mitten, I really need to make a trip to UoM to see that collection. If I do I'll post pictures for you, fellow collector.

>> No.23349897

>>23349893
The margins are for notes brother

>> No.23349931
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The photograph is signed by Dunsany. I love having this piece of history. Also with a ton of funny notes on the back by Hazel

>> No.23350844

>>23349758
>folio
the absolute state of you

>> No.23351225

>>23350844
>doesn't give an answer
I hate you pretentious trannies.

>> No.23351300

>>23347941
tribute when???

>> No.23352456

>>23351300
Kys

>> No.23352461

>>23349578
27 club

>> No.23352501

>>23347894

I often think it's a shame that such beautiful engravings are locked up in antique books and feel the temptation to cut them out, frame them and hang them on the wall, but in the process ruining the book (which belongs to the library). What do?

>> No.23352533

>>23352501
>engravings
they are called photogravures

>> No.23352572

>>23352501
Take a copy

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>>23352501
in uni i ripped out the dedication of a bunch of different library books and made a collage for my coursework

>> No.23352734

>>23347910
>>23347921
>>23347928
>>23347944
i want to apologize for my posts. i was drunk and i needed to hurt someone. i would have apologized earlier but for the last 2 days i was too lazy to evade my ban for virulent antisemitism.

>> No.23352764

>>23352533
>>23347894
>>23349894

Why is it that some of these pages like the OP image have a clear indication of being pressed onto the paper? While others are just kind of flat on the page. Is it the same process and the different look is just a function of the type of paper? Good, heavy paper versus cheap paper?

>> No.23352836

>>23352764
The paper in the OP PIC is incredibly thick and very high quality. It’s a plate insert

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>>23352836
Photogravure plate from gods of pegana.

>> No.23352868

>>23347941
I am going to make a tulpa out of your mom

>> No.23352878

this board is so horrible

>> No.23352882

>>23352878
Op does a good job of ignoring the troons and continues posting as normal in his own threads. Sign of a true scented champion

>> No.23352894

>>23352882
>scented
what are the top notes? has to be bergamot / blackcurrant

>> No.23353622

>>23352894
u quote the wrong dude or what?

>> No.23353717

>>23353622
yeah my bad

>> No.23353823

>>23347894
Boomers turn everything they touch to shit

>> No.23353891

>>23347941
Eternally perplexed by anons who think it's a good idea to post their moms here

>> No.23353986

>>23353891
y not?

>> No.23354001

>>23353891
4chan loves their moms

>> No.23354067

>>23349833
u sound mad

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This is the nicest book I own.

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>>23354191

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>>23354197

>> No.23354219

>>23354202
>>23354197
>>23354191
the textblock art is horrendous. why did they do that

>> No.23354284

>>23349808
Yes, you have told us this in multiple threads. why are you even messing with these expensive books. get disposable copies and store these books in glass case. Hope your purchases don't depreciate in price. Not purchase could ever justify making, regardless of my wealth status. Not gonna overpay for book because it was the first print or has signature, even if it was god's signature.

>> No.23354295

>>23354284
>Hope your purchases don't depreciate in price.
how is a 120 year old book going to depreciate in value? anyway, moving on from that, these books are not meant for reading. I have the 1970s ballantine series for that.

>> No.23354305

>>23354295
I assumed putting more wear on the books lowers the price like with baseball cards and comic books. Good to hear you have it figured out with the ballantine series. Gorgeous collection by the way, just find the amount you spent on it to be insane. You said 50 grand, right?

>> No.23354308

>>23354305
No I sold a lot of my collection to obtain some of the dunsany stuff. My collection is worth around $30,000 if I sold everything for what it's probably worth. That's a difficult thing to do though, and I'm not interested in selling these anyway.

>> No.23354583

>>23354308
>My collection

how many books is that?

>> No.23354592

>>23349074
>t. 18 yo zoomer
KYS FAGGOT

>> No.23354605

>>23354583
Not that many. I downsized my collection a lot. Most of its value is in 10-15 volumes.

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This is the most expensive book I own. It was nearly one hundred Canuckbux new.

>> No.23355382

>>23347941
Zamn vro she got some nice tatas i wanna play bongo on them, write a fas frick of me vrooing back in zime to vroom vroom her pussy