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Thoughts?

>> No.23343006

>>23342996
kek, exactly what someone who has never read a book but spent a few days on /lit/ would say

>> No.23343007

>>23342996
I love all these books, but come on... he should've spiced it up a little.

>> No.23343009

>>23342996
Wow, what a basic bitch.

>> No.23343022

>>23343006
>>23343007
>>23343009
What's yours?

>> No.23343031

>>23343007
Why would you spice up your favorite list with something obscure? To look interesting?

>> No.23343032

>>23343022
hey, it takes a pseud to know a pseud

>> No.23343042

>>23343022
The Golem by Gustav Meyrink
The Passion According to G.H. by Clarice Lispector
The Lime Twig by John Hawkes
The Sorcerers Apprentice by Francois Augieras
Pitch Dark by Renata Adler
Romaji Diary by Takuboku Ishikawa
The Beautiful and Damned by Fitzgerald
The Use and Abuse of Art by Jacques Barzun

>> No.23343045

>>23343042
>Clarice Lispector
Stopped reading right there

>> No.23343049

>>23343022
Not that Anon, but, fiction-only, mine are:

1. Moby-Dick by Herman Melville
2. The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
3. The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien
4. The Iliad by Homer
5. The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
6. Emma by Jane Austen
7. The Aleph and Other Stories by Jorge Luis Borges
8. Brideshead Revisited by Evelyn Waugh
9. Ulysses by James Joyce
10. The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne

>> No.23343055

>>23343049
It's kind of similar but with gay books like Austen's and Waugh's. Dante is a kino choice and an improvement. Don't know what to make of the genre fiction (Wolfe, Tolkien, Borges).

>> No.23343056

>>23342996
>Dostoevsky over Proust
>W&P not #1
>Anna Karenina not #2
>Middlemarch not #3

>> No.23343057

>>23343055
>Auster's list is better because it doesn't have women or genre fiction!
so you don't read either, kek

>> No.23343059

>>23343055
Borges is considered genre fiction?

>> No.23343066

>>23343059
He writes fantasy, self-admittedly. But because he's not anglo it's considered literary or whatever.

>> No.23343074

>>23343056
>Dostoevsky over Proust
Damn right. Problem?
>W&P not #1
It shouldn't be. DQ being #1 is the most based choice in the whole list.

>> No.23343085

>>23343074
Tolstoy is the greatest author who ever lived. Proust is objectively better than gay ass degenerate Dostoyevsky.

Moralism wins every time.

>> No.23343086

>>23343031
It doesn't need to be obscure; it just needs to show some individuality. This list told me very little about his literary tastes, apart from the modernism (Joyce, Proust, Beckett).

>> No.23343088

>>23342996
Our of these I've read
>W&P
>C&P
>Moby Dick
>Ulysses (halfway, couldn't finish it)
It's insane to me that anyone who likes those first two could even tolerate the second two. Moby Dick and Ulysses are leftist horseshit, antiwhite garbage

>> No.23343090

>>23343085
>Proust
>not a gay ass degenerate
lol lmao he was worse than Dosto, he literally fucked boys.
>Moralism wins every time.
No, it doesn't.

>> No.23343100

>>23342996
This reminds me of Robert Eggers' favorite movie list where yea, they're great books and everything but they're all safe, expected choices. The only thing that has barely any personality is Tristram Shandy.

>> No.23344308

>>23342996
Never heard of any of these. Seems really pretentious

>> No.23344317

He just picked straight from the college freshman world lit reading list lol

>> No.23344321

>>23343022
confederacy of dunces
tom jones
warlock
songs of a dead dreamer/grimscribe
suttree
the dwarf
king Solomon's mines
the Conan chronicles
Gargantua and Pantagruel
The Manuscript Found in Saragossa

>> No.23344336
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23344336

>>23343022
I made it a chart

>> No.23344353

>>23343042
>Jacques Barzun
Stoped reading right there

>> No.23344358

>>23344321
Based choices.

>> No.23344369

>>23342996
pseud list desu

>>23343022
1. Ecce Homo, Nietzsche
2. Kreutzer Sonata, Tolstoy
3. Finnegans Wake, Joyce
4. On Last Things, Weininger
5. Paradise Lost, Milton
6. The Cantos, Ezra Pound
7. Civilization and its discontents, Freud
8. The Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith
9. Doctor Faustus, Thomas Mann
10. Sorrows of Young Werther, Goethe

>>23343090
>No, it doesn't.

Yes it does.

>> No.23345162

>>23344369
>Yes it does.
No, it loses all the time.

>> No.23345167

>>23342996
in this day and age he should at least pretend to like something other than white men

>> No.23345171

>>23342996
wow he's probably an actual good writer

>> No.23345213

>>23344369
>The Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith
lmao, ignored

>> No.23345228

>>23345213
Give me your top 10, faggot

>> No.23345232

>Tolstoy
>Dostoevsky
It's terrible.

>> No.23345260

>>23345232
Its just the most stereotypical selections from the western canon. Probably better than a list of obscure works that arent as good

>> No.23345266

>>23345162
Bohemian debauchery leads nowhere besides pseudo-poetic despair. Meanwhile, morality leads to eternal life

>> No.23345277

>>23345260
Sure but the other selections at least have some praiseworthy qualities.

>> No.23345327

>>23344369
You are a fucking faggot.

>> No.23345346

>>23345232
Get off this board and kys

>> No.23345358

>>23345327
Why do you say this?

>> No.23345413

>>23345167
Cervantes is latinx

>> No.23345414

>>23345228
Did you enjoy Finnegans Wake

>> No.23345416

>>23345171
Meh. You can definitely see beckett's and other modernists influences in the new york trilogy but needless to say, he falls short
First episode of the trilogy is the best as far as I remember, some meta stuff about Don Quixote

>> No.23345418

For a guy who can write pretty experimentally and poetically in prose, he can be quite a square sometimes. I read his corespondence with Coetzse and boy is that earnest and 'we are literary.' They wrote their letters knowing anyone interested would be reading them soon in a book form with a spring release

>> No.23345457

>>23343022
1: A History of Warfare, J. Keegan
2: Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WWII, Jenz and Doyle
3: A History of World Societies, Hill McCaky & Buckler
4: Dark of the Sun, W. Smith
5: Out of the Mouth of the Dragon, M. geston
6: Silmarillion, J.R.R. Tolkien
7: Sword of Rhiannon, L. Brackett
8: Pretty much anything by R. E. Howard
9: The Stars my Destination, A. Bester
10: The Spanish Civil War, A. Beevor

>> No.23345470

>>23343042
>The Passion According to G.H. by Clarice Lispector
this has to be the most retarded thing ever written by a woman after harry potter
the navel gazing nature made me vomit

>> No.23345493

>>23345470
I have never even heard of this. I need to look it up, at the very least.

>> No.23345517

>>23345414
I enjoy it. Haven’t read it straight through as one would read most books. I’ve been reading it off and on for years

>> No.23345609

>>23345418
>and boy is that earnest and 'we are literary.

All great literature is anti-literary in this sense.

>> No.23345636

>>23343006
t. contrarian midwit

>> No.23345654
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23345654

>>23343022
Blindsight - Peter Watts
Blood Meridian - Cormac MemeCarthy
Invisible Cities - Italo Calvino
One, None, and a Hundred Thousand - Luigi Pirandello

I'm a newfag to reading (I started literally this year) so these are all the books I've read AND liked thus far.
I've read The Great Gatsby and found it mediocre.

>> No.23345663

>>23345414
Nah, I never read it

>> No.23345675

>>23343042
Entry-level /lit/, m8. Try again

>> No.23345721

>>23343009
Well, he is a Jew.

>> No.23345724

>>23342996
I have read don quixote and moby dick and I liked them

>> No.23345733

>>23343088
>Moby Dick and Ulysses are leftist horseshit, antiwhite garbage
The absolute state.

>> No.23345864

>>23343088
you gotta be trolling

>> No.23345880

>>23342996
Based Shandy appreciator

>> No.23346108

>>23345413
nice b8

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23346844

>>23342996

>> No.23346886

>>23342996
There is no way someone actually picks these as their top 10. That's the ultimate educated NPC opinion.

>> No.23347026

>>23343088
>Moby Dick and Ulysses are leftist horseshit, antiwhite garbage
This poster is a falseflagging jew

>> No.23347032

lmao at this thread and all the poser claiming the actually good literate author has bad picks because they're not obscure enough and he instead likes the greatest books ever written

>> No.23347107

>>23345418
>and boy is that earnest and 'we are literary.'
What do you mean.

>> No.23347131

>>23345654
Read Mattia Pascal if you like Piradenllo.

>> No.23347229

>>23343022
1. Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes
2. War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy
3. Moby-Dick by Herman Melville
4. Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky
5. In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust
6. Ulysses by James Joyce
7. The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne
8. The Castle by Franz Kafka
9. Molloy, Malone Dies, and The Unnamable (trilogy) by Samuel Beckett
10. Tristram Shandy by Laurence Sterne

>> No.23347444

>>23342996
>Ulysses
like fucking hell

>> No.23347526

>>23343022
1. Hopscotch by Julio Cortazar
2. Finnegans Wake by James Joyce (yes I've read the whole thing and no I'm not
joking)
3. Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
4. The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevesky
5. Native Son by Richard Wright
6. Suttree by Cormac McCarthy
7. Mason and Dixon by Thomas Pynchon
8. Bullet Park by John Cheever
9. Les Miserables by Victor Hugo
10. Casino Royale by Ian Fleming

>> No.23347530

>>23347526
cringe

>> No.23347532

>>23342996
characteristically dull

>> No.23347539

>>23347530
what's cringe about it and while you're at it, post yours.

>> No.23347541

>>23342996
1. Leaves of Grass
2. Moby Dick
3. On the Shores of Silver Lake
4. Trout Fishing in America
5. Crucible of War
6. Le Morte d'Arthur
7. The Jonny-Cake Papers
8. White Jacket
9. The Bible
10. Rakkety Tam

>> No.23347560

>>23347539
Already posted >>23343042, pleb

>> No.23347570

>>23347560
holy hell you have bad taste and are a faggot. Keeping pretending to like Lispector and Adler bro that arthoe you've been chasing will eventually notice you I'm sure

>> No.23347576

>>23347539
nta but #1 is a giga pseud choice. Pretty much cancels out the rest of the list

>> No.23347588

why did everyone start posting their top 10s

>> No.23347684

>>23347576
How so? Have hou read Hopscotch or are you just being a retard? what's your number 1?

>> No.23348134

>>23347107
nta

it's common for people to pursue literature (and self-serious cinema) as a kind of pseudo-spirituality. Meanwhile they believe the universe to be essentially meaningless, but they hold onto literature as a beautiful consolation that they feel themselves noble (and superior to others) in dedicating their lives to. It is perhaps permissible when a great writer views literature in this way, but one cannot help but find it ridiculous when these views are held by a middling talent. And very often a great writer feels at odds with these values (one can easily imagine Nietzsche mocking the "literary" types).

Literature in itself doesn't hold up to being made a way of life, as literature in its origin was something quite different than these tepid modernistic notions of self-expression--it was religious stories and ritual. Nowadays the discipline of art often just look like how to be miserable in an artistic manner--think Woody Allen. There's a reason that litbros and filmbros are a target of scorn from their promiscuous female counterparts--their values are as straw and they take themselves seriously in a manner that, being nihilists, they have no right to.

James Joyce would be the ultimate example of this except for that his mind so eminently comic and unserious that his work, if read properly, should actually be an acid to the attitudes of all the literary types who venerate him.