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What is the English equivalent to Don Quixote?

>> No.23306639
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23306639

The Sot-Weed Factor by John Bart

>> No.23306642

>>23306632
Knight of the Burning Pestle, but it's not as gripping.

>> No.23306645

>>23306632
Depending on what you mean by equivalent, I'm not sure, but if you mean a comical and satirical sort of meta take on literature, maybe Tristam Shandy.

>> No.23306659

>>23306645
Yeah I would say Tristram Shandy too.

>> No.23306713

>>23306645
>what you mean by equivalent
I was thinking about the most famous and influential book in that language, the most iconic. If someone was asked to name one book in Spanish they would probably mention the Quixote. What would that book be in English?

>> No.23306730

>>23306713
I would say the first folio, but I doubt many would refer to it as such. Perhaps the KJV?

>> No.23307647

>>23306632
Lord Quixote.

>> No.23307666

>>23306632
Does the anglosphere have an equivalent to Pierre Menard? I think you can only read Quixote in Spanish or French

>> No.23307670

>>23307666
>Pierre Menard
a retarded meme? plenty

>> No.23307672

All wrong.
Hudibras by Samuel Butler is quite literally a Don Quixote parody he wrote during the mid 1600s

>Hudibras and Ralpho set out, very like Don Quixote and Sancho Panza, to combat those whom they consider to be their enemies. Throughout their adventures and humiliations, the third key person of the story, the rich widow whose money Hudibras would dearly like to get his hands on, plays an increasingly important role, and the conclusion of Part III is a lengthy, detailed, and unqualified declaration by the rich widow that men, on the basis of the entire preceding story, are clearly inferior to women. This declaration is notable, in a large-scale popular satire written by an English male author in the seventeenth century, and reminds the reader that Hudibras's most crushing defeats were at the hands of Trulla, the village prostitute (I:iii:757–928, pp. 82–87), and the rich widow herself in the last 382 lines of the last book headed "The Ladies Answer to the Knight" (pp. 310–321).

>> No.23307697

>>23307672
OP already clarified at >>23306713 that he meant "the most famous and influential book in that language, the most iconic" as he takes Don Quixote to be for Spanish, not a literal plot/genre equivalent.

>> No.23307699

Lots of cruel and crude old books in the English canon.

>> No.23307702

>>23307697
the kjv then

>> No.23307716

>>23306632
Canterbury Tales

>> No.23307728

>>23306713
Because of their racial superiority to the mongrel Spaniards, England has far too many great works for just one to take precedence. Canterbury Tales, Pilgrim's Progress, Paradise Lost, Hamlet, Macbeth, etc. But perhaps the closest in content is The Unfortunate Traveller.

>> No.23307738

>>23307728
>mongrel Spaniards
England is an ethnic bukkake as well. Don't act like the English are "pure". They will continue to mix every day.

>> No.23307772

>>23306713
Canterbury Tales or Shakespeare

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>>23306632

>> No.23307839

>>23307716
I cannot comprehend the language in that.
WTF man how do I do it?

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>>23307839
You get the original-spelling Penguin edition with all the extra material you need to read it.

>> No.23307903

>>23307850
I got the Norton Critical Edition

>> No.23307907

>>23307903
gay

>> No.23308805

>>23307738
The English are a mixture of pure White northern Europeans, the same cannot be said of the unfortunate Spaniards.

>> No.23308842

>>23308805
Are you sure? Check London again.

>> No.23309557

>>23307839
Chaucer’s language was meant to be spoken and read aloud. Try reading it out loud, making sure to pronounce every word. There’s a short intro to Chaucer’s language in some of the better beginner’s books where it shows you how to sound out the letters and outmoded spellings.
Are you ESL? Not trying to belittle you, but if you are and your primary language is a Romance language, I’d imagine you’d have an easier time at it if you follow my advice. I don’t know enough about Japanese but it sounds very similar to that as well.

>> No.23309843

>>23306632
Romeo and Juliet

>> No.23309867

The First Folio by far (it became the meat and potatoes of English usage and literary references) followed by the King James Bible and Johnson’s Dictionary

Canterbury Tales greatly facilitated a more common and literate Middle English

>> No.23309869

>>23309557
Most adult Americans have an 8th grade reading level and can’t even comprehend Shakespeare

>> No.23309942

>>23307699
But really, none top Moby Dick. Moby Dick and Don Quixote. The aristocrat's nightmare, the bougie's mark of shame. Add the pederast cowboy tale a century from now!

>> No.23310636

>>23307728
All unreadable goyslop for peasants

>> No.23310763

>>23309843
x2
Or maybe Hamlet.

>> No.23310972

>>23308842
>Are you sure?
Don't know about him but I am. All post-war immigrants aren't English.

>> No.23310996

>>23310972
And all of England is composed of post-war immigrants now lmao

>> No.23311016

>>23307728
A 19th century gentleman wrote this post

>> No.23311667

>>23311016
*19th century dandy

>> No.23312473

confederacy of dunces