/lit/ - Literature

read the belgariad, I promise you'll like it

>>23285840
Hi /sffg/, I hope you won't mind I present you a little work of mine : an interactive space opera fiction.

Tbh it's a thing I wrote a long time ago, and I found it back this year, and I thought it would be fun to made it into an interactive narrated story. The concept is quite simple, each episode presents a decisive choice, and depending on the results of the poll, I publish the next episode few days later. Since it's a branched story, every choice will be explored in time, to reveal the plot.

As for the plot itself, I don't want to say too much, but it take inspiration as much into classical space opera fictions as well as some lovecraftian elements. The story is fully narrated in french, but I've put english subtitles.

Check out the first episode, and if you like it, watch the others ! For now, only three have been published, I will probably publish the fourth one during the week. Hope my english subtitles are okay :

https://youtu.be/rAynbc19Bxo?feature=shared

>>23285945
I'm hoping to one day, just need to get my hands on it. I'm also hoping to read more of that era of fantasy. I do have the Riftwar Saga that I have yet to start, as well as Swords of Shannara.

>>23285964
>interactive
stopped reading there

>>23285979
Won't judge you, most of that subgenre is really stereotypical. The interactive element was mainly an excuse to do a branched story on a youtube format. Beyond the format, I think my little thing have qualites on its own, in terms of writing (at least in original french, honnestly I can't judge the quality of my english subtitles) well as characters, but I will let others be the judge.

>>23285812
>>23285846
why does /lit/ sperg out the moment someone mentions Sanderson

Literally all you need.

>>23285964
>Hi /sffg/, I hope
stopped reading there

>>23286000
>Hi
Stopped reading here

>stopped reading

>>23285992
Because he is the most popular modern fantasy writer by far, and is extremely reddit.

>>23286131
He isn't the most popular in any way.

>>23286147
Who is active and more popular?

>>23286148
J.K Rowling

>>23286186
J.K. Rowling's last noteworthy fantasy novel was 17 years ago. What I meant was Sanderson is the most popular person writing fantasy today. I think the only candidates for more popular would be R.R. Martin or maybe even Rothfuss, but it is debatable whether either of them could still be considered active.

>>23285840
Read The Call of Cthulhu

I actually liked it (mostly) could have been shorter for sure but Episode 2 era Anakin in a Dune meets 40k universe was a decent starting place for a bigger story. I will say coming somewhat fresh off of Dune Messiah I found the blatant rip offs of mentats, ban on tech bc of previous abuse etc pretty hilarious for how on the nose they were used here
Soft 4/5

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

>>23286251
again?

>>23285945
It's on my list, I'll get to it eventually. At this point I wish I had infinite free time to just read, read, read.

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince

>>23286251
No, thanks. Lovecraft's books are the only example where audiobooks are superior thanks to Wayne fucking June's epic voice.

>>23285964
>[Open]
stopped reading right there

>>23285964
wow it's like a quest but audio

You should read Chthon, its good for you

>>23285840
Show some respect to the Pournelle, boys.

>>23286337
Most panther sci fi is good

>>23286148
Maas is a far better seller than him. They're similar in gross numbers but she started writing way after he did.

>>23286495
What good shit has he done that didn't have Niven's name on it too?

>>23286506
Maas is admittedly a good answer. She writes YA romance with fantasy elements and most of her readers are women, so I'd imagine her readership is more generally fans of the former than the latter. My original point had more to do with Sanderson's place within the current landscape of fantasy literature, but I think by sheer numbers, among books labelled as fantasy you'd be right to say Maas is the biggest.

>>23286287
book 2 is better

>could have been shorter
very true for EoS, but the sequels are longer lol. Howling Dark (#2) didn't give me the "wrap it up already god damn" feeling that #1 did

Maggots for meat
Weevils for rye
Dragons for stars in an empty sky

>>23285997
for me it's A Perfect Circle and Puscifer. truth shines

to the anon who recommended Howard Pyle's "the story of King Arthur and his knights" as an introduction to Arthurian legend, thank you. this is exactly what I was looking for and a fun read to boot

>>23287241
Also read Tennyson's Idylls

Please post sf anthologies. Themed or otherwise

>>23286300
you are aware you can read a book more then once right anon?

>Its a main character is a dagger wielding thief episode

>>23287436
The only person who should, or could, have written about that was Harlan. But I think he only wrote about chain-wielding gangs in New York.

Am I the only one who thinks that talking capitalist suit wearing hobbit sized rats are cool as shit?

>>23287534
>cool as shit
Why don't you cool it with the antisemitic remarks, ya Kraut?

Books with warlock protagonist?
You know the deal, evil magic, enslaving monsters, corrupting people etc etc. Like Gul'dan from WoW

Do you remember which Rabbi circumcised you?

>>23287630
Kane by Karl Edward Wagner

>>23285840
>last
'Chronicles of the Black Company' by Glen Cook, 5/5.

The first book:
I have a hard time deciding if the writing is overly quick or too quickly paced or if the author is simply respecting the readers time. I can't decide if it's a style choice or a lack of skill in this first book. Either way it is sometimes great and sometimes fine, it never felt too fast but it did keep a refreshing pace always which is a novel thing compared to some other books (dune Messiah, hyperion 2, Witcher 2). The characters are all great, I can't really say more than that I enjoyed them all.

I have a small gripe about the recurring theme and distraction of goblin and one eye and their magical fueds, sometimes it gets old and you just want to skip over them.

The plot is refreshing and offers a unique or interesting perspective on a fantasy world as the group is aligned with the 'evil' side.

The plots and secrets of the story are pretty excellent and sometimes you need to pay attention as some things are one sentance quips that reveal a lot about certain plot points.

All the action is great, there is no horny scenes.

The ending is great and I'll continue with the series by reading the next omnibus.

This is a superior book to the first Dune book.

>current
Shadow & Claw by Gene Wolfe. Starting it now.

>>23287630
Warlock of the Magus World. It's a webnovel though.

If anyone wrote fantasy or sci-fi and wants a cheap editor, let me know. Just finished the short story I was working on

Are there any Fantasy stories about assassins that aren't edgelord cringe? I'm curious if any authors took a serious stab at it instead of just fishing for easy cash by pandering to the teenage demographic that typically flock to that concept.

I tried asking this last thread and got no responses: are there any books out there involving a Beauty and the Beast story with the roles swapped so the Beauty is a guy and the Beast is a girl? Ideally, this would be a primarily figurative relationship to support the narrative, rather than being taken literally as a pornographic excuse for a human to fuck an alien or a furry, but I would accept the latter if it amounted to more than a Star Trek rubber-forehead alien.

>>23287241
When was that? Some months back, probably around summer-fall of 2023, I recommended against Howard Pyle's "King Arthur" because there are four separate substantial volumes to the complete Pyle opus, and the one you find on Barnes and Noble or Amazon is just the first, which almost totally skips Lancelot, Gawain, and the Grail cycle. However, if you were able to get the entire set, then good for you; the prose is much more readable than authentic first-hand Malory.

>>23287534
No. There are various rat based media. Anthromorphs are popular.

>>23287818
Assassin's Creed

>>23287822
Monster girl books

>>23287838
>Monster girl books
I was hoping for something more substantial, something that can't just be gotten from browsing FurAffinity or AO3?

>>23287822
I've only got two Arthurian stories, both featuring Sir Gawain: Lady Ragnelle and Pulzella Gaia. The first one is more "Beast" than the second, but I guess they both qualify.

>>23287860
Thanks, those are the kind of thing I'm looking for, although I probably should have specified that I'd prefer novels published and printed within the past 500 years

>>23287864
Well, aren't you a picky one.

>>23287832
I got the rec two or three weeks ago, I've got the copy that has 6 parts from the winning of kinghood through the story of sir gawaine. I really like Pyle's writing from what I've read so far

Arthurian stories should be added to the 'pasta.

>>23287878
Yes, Pyle's writing is very enjoyable, I read his The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood as well and highly recommend it, but those 6 parts are what's naturally contained in the first volume.
There's also
>The Story of the Champions of the Round Table
>The Story of Sir Launcelot and His Companions
>The Story of the Grail and the Passing of Arthur
Three separate books that aren't included in commercial publications, and can only be gotten either used from private vendors or as one of those epubs/print-on-demand paperbacks from Amazon. You really need the whole set to get everything out of Pyle's Arthuriana, and I'd also suggest this annotated collection of important and early Arthurian legends that complements Malory excellently, with tales frequently left out of conventional readings though not obscure.

>>23287822
There's probably a Shrek novelization floating around somewhere.

>>23287893
this is excellent, I might not have ever known otherwise. I'll be on the lookout for those volumes

You may not remember me, but I am just popping in to say I am at book #14 of the Legend of Drizzt and I only have twenty left to go
I told myself I could do this, the entire legend of Drizzt series in one year, I never realized how hard it could be

>>23287901
Shrek is more "The Beast and the Beast", unless the novelization was written by Lord Farquaad about how he totally married and deep-dicked Fiona

>>23287992
>Drizzt
DeviantArt tier ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT STEAL version of Elric of Melnibone.

Many such cases unfortunately. I think Michael Moorecock may be the most ripped off fantasy writer in history, rivaled only by Tolkien and Robert E. Howard.

>>23288111
Drizzt and Forgotten Realms and RA Salvatore and Baldur's Gate are all gay as fuck but they're still not as gay as Elfdick Melaninboner by Moishe Moorish-cock

>>23287851
This guy is a pretty good author.
It's always human guys with monster girls.
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/18144556.Cebelius

>>23287241
based

>>23286331
At least one person didn't stop reading then, thank you anon.

If you liked it, I just released a new episode :

https://youtu.be/BvxUiAgixts?feature=shared

>>23287851
I mean there is snekguy and I guess hmofa on ao3/4chan. There is also sexy space babes but that's star trek. All of these are fairly horny, but they are male female monster romances.

any recommendations based on liking this book?

>the scene where she sneaks into the bad guys castle disguised as a circus freak in bikini armor

>>23288496
I haven't read this book, but judging purely by the cover I think you would really love Jirel of Joiry by C.L. Moore if you haven't heard of it already. I'm 99.9% sure she was the primary influence behind Red Sonja.

>>23288572
thanks. i'll check it out.

>>23288416
Snekguy is probably the best human-on-monster/anthro writer I've seen on the net, but it's still smut. Isn't there any stories about this that are only mildly horny instead of overwhelmingly horny? I mean the desired ending of the stock Beauty and the Beast story is the beast returning to human form, it doesn't have to be non-human sexooooo

>>23287436
are there any series where the world is rife with magic, mages and clerics, but the main character's party is just 4-5 warriors?

>>23288572
People mistake Jirel of Joiry for "female Conan the Barbarian" simply because she was writing at the same time as Howard, and in a sense that's accurate, but Jirel of Joiry is explicitly set in the 12-13th century France, commingling with the Otherworld, sort of halfway between Solomon Kane and Hellboy.

>>23288496
>Jane Carver of Waar
>John Carter of Mars
I sincerely hope this bitch is rescuing scantily-clad dudes-in-distress or it'd be a huge fucking ripoff, if she's a dyke the entire gimmick is blown.

>>23287012
That sounds like the lesser of two weevils.

>>23288631
>I sincerely hope this bitch is rescuing scantily-clad dudes-in-distress or it'd be a huge fucking ripoff, if she's a dyke the entire gimmick is blown.

she's straight. the male mc is a scantily clad twink that she rescues on multiple occasions

>>23288735
I will now buy your novel.

>>23287656
Novels with circumcised heroes?

>>23288792
One of the main characters of the Lariel series has his penis ecplicitly described as circumcised.

>>23288496
>she sneaks into the bad guys castle disguised as a circus freak in bikini armor
No, thanks.

Where to go next with Aldiss? Finished Non-stop a while ago, I liked the overall weird vibe and unconventional/pulpy prose. My used bookstore has several titles to choose from, Hothouse would be my preferred 2nd but it's not available.

>>23288976
after her strong woman act the bad guy goes up on stage and undresses her in front of the whole crowd to make sure that she's actually a woman

Fantasy like pic-related? Challenge: You're not allowed to say The Wizard Knight or anything Arthurian.

>>23289083
Why doesn't he just kill his enemy asap? What a dumb villain

>>23289080
>Hothouse would be my preferred 2nd but it's not available
I was going to recommend that one. If you're in the mood for something very weird and interesting give "Barefoot in the Head" a try:

"Perhaps Aldiss's most experimental work, this first appeared in several parts as the Acid Head War series in New Worlds. Set in a Europe some years after a flare-up in the Middle East led to Europe being attacked with bombs releasing huge quantities of long-lived hallucinogenic drugs. Into an England with a population barely maintaining a grip on reality comes a young Serb, who himself starts coming under the influence of the ambient aerosols, and finds himself leading a messianic crusade. The narration and dialogue reflects the shattering of language under the influence of the drugs, in mutating phrases and puns and allusions, in a deliberate echo of Finnegans Wake."

To the possible anon who applied to the Goodreads group a few hours ago:

I have rejected your request to join /sffg/ because you didn't answer the required question. You may reapply again.


This is one of the reasons why it is how it is. I don't want random people joining. The overwhelming majority of accounts don't accept messages from non-friends so I have to resort to this. Fortunately it's only happened a few times.

>>23289110
Thanks anon I recentltly found out that this awesome used bookstore that I thought was closed down just relocated to a different location. It's curated by a /lit nerd so the selection is top notch and the prices are actually very decent considering. He even said he would look for some titles I had on my wishlist. I picked up 2 books: Herland and The Deep by John Crowely. I really need to go on Goodreads and update my list.

I’m rereading the Sprawl Trilogy. Neuromancer was just as fun on revisit, and I’m enjoying Count Zero more I think, I’m a sucker for corporate merc type characters.
For whatever reason, Gibson always gets me out of a bad mood.

>>23285964
Pay for the ad space and don't bother us with this.

Anyone know any "aristocratic" fantasy series (whatever that means to you)?

Yall got some good classic post apocalypse America? I just started playing a CK3 mod where Im the petrol Lord of Texas and I crave more.

>>23289161
Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner maybe? If I get what you're looking for then you should check out the "Fantasy of Manners" sub-genre.

>>23289168
"Hello America" by J.G. Ballard should do the trick.

>>23289099
She’s disguised

I was reading this paper about the evolution of altruism and I was wondering if it's more likely aliens would have large-scale voluntary coalitions (similar to Star Trek? I never watched it) as the benefit of cooperating outweighs the cost of defecting (the coalition exiles or destroys you), assuming they haven't genetically moved beyond conflict, and this would make the dark forest hypothesis from The Dark Forest less likely because cooperators have a higher fitness than competitors. Hamilton's rule (favoring related individuals) itself isn't considered a satisfactory theory because there's altruism among unrelated individuals and even different species. An alien civilization doesn't need to get something from the other civilization for helping it because they can get reputation in the coalition from their altruism, or get help back from the civilization in the future, so there's still incentive to help civilizations that can't help back.
>Theoretical and empirical studies of indirect reciprocity show that people who are more helpful are more likely to receive help.
The selection for indirect reciprocity played a large role in creating human language and intelligence.
>A group of cooperators might be more successful than a group of defectors.
The tit-for-tat (always starting with cooperation, only defecting when your opponent defects) as shown in tournaments by Axelrod was the best strategy, but this was later replaced by a stronger strategy that deals known as generous-tit-for-tat (sometimes cooperate even when your opponent defects) which makes forgiveness a robust strategy. Why would the coalition be voluntary instead of forced?
>Another option to obtain cooperation is making the game voluntary rather than obligatory: if players can choose between cooperation, defection or not playing at all, then some level of cooperation usually prevails in dynamic oscillations.
Perhaps this would explain a Prime Directive.
>New levels of organization evolve when the competing units on the lower level begin to cooperate. Cooperation allows specialization and thereby promotes biological diversity. Cooperation is the secret behind the open endedness of the evolutionary process. Perhaps the most remarkable aspect of evolution is its ability to generate cooperation in a competitive world. Thus, we might add ‘natural cooperation’ as a third fundamental principle of evolution beside mutation and natural selection.
It might not be even possible to achieve an organization with the ability to attack other civilizations without first having a high cooperative mentality.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279745/

>>23289099
he doesn't know who she is at that point. she's also playing the part of a circus freak, so he doesn't know who she really is

>>23289196
>Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
lmao

>>23289298
Aristocrats are pretty fuckin gay

>>23289277

>>23286891
>book 2 is better
I've heard that a few times and now that I'm about 10% it's for sure a much stronger start than book 1. Kind of disappointed the dumbass got himself captured already lmao but if it let's me learn more about these creepy ass extrasolarians then I'll just have to deal with it

>>23289168
oh baby do we have some books for you

>>23289356
I read a bit of the author's other paper and watched a video on it. It looks like defection is briefly the best at the beginning of evolution with lots of various strategies for them to exploit (like pure cooperators), but eventually after the strategies are defeated the cooperator strategies beat out the defector strategies with the TFT strategy being the top at Axelrod's tournament, but Axelrod said if the GTFT strategy (tit for 2 tats) was submitted it would've beat all of them including TFT. Even if you have a world of mostly defectors and a small number of cooperators, then the TFT strategy will still dominate and eventually cooperators will take over the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScpHTIi-kM
The video also talks about the Cuban Missile Crisis which I think is a good analogy for something that could extinct you like an alien civilization. To avoid the crisis it was necessary to use GTFT. The world would be very different if Arkhipov used TFT instead of being generous.

Read Tenebroum

Traditional medieval fantasy with humans, gods, ghosts, dvarves, goblins and others.
No cultivation, no xanxia and no litrpg nonsense.

Thanks to the anon who suggested Cold Iron by Miles Cameron a few weeks ago. I'd read some of his historical fiction but skipped right past his fantasy. It was a decent small scale slice-of-life story until it wasn't. I enjoyed it and am glad to have read it, but the not-Byzantine empire thing has been done a lot better by KJ Parker.

>>23288380
I didn't say it was good, faggot. Quests are for /qst/.

How about some uhhhh prehistoric/bronze age fantasy recs?

Just finished reading Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune, after originally giving up on the series when I first started reading Dune Messiah right after Dune, because it was fucking boring. What did I think of them?

>>23285945
>>23285997
>>23286290
>>23286311
>>23287241
>>23287800
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>>23289123
>>23289562
Great post anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good?!?!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good???? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

>"You have forgotten something," said Glawen.
>"Eh? What is that?"
>"I am an IPCC officer."

>Great post anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good?!?!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good???? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

hidden gemmy

>>23289592
uh oh, angry :D

>>23289123
You would love 'Thin Air' by Richard K Morgan if you want corporate merc books. It's also very good in general.
>>23289562
I also stopped reading dune messiah cause it was fucking boring so I'm gonna say it was all fucking boring.

>>23289836
Well I'll say that at least in Children of Dune and God Emperor, things happened. It wasn't like being a psychic sitting in on a series of boardroom meetings where everyone hates each other, having to listen to all the catty bitching in their inner thoughts

I read a science fiction book a long time ago and no matter where I searched I can’t find the title. It may have been a series but I simple can’t remember. It also might have been a young adult book. I only remember the premise outline:
1. The Earth ended up being divided between two factions: life-science / green / .genetics tech tree / peaceful group and the other a mechanical engineering tech tree group.
2. The Greenpeace faction left the Earth on a colony migration ship / fleet.
3. Engineer faction, which had become super despotic and militaristic, after some time has passed, launched a battle force after the Greenpeacers. And they abhor anything related to life-sciences (lol) and green-plants-etc; animal husbandry is like their limit.
4. Following the path of Greenpeacers the Engineers find a planet inhabited by animal people(?) aliens which the Greenpeacers had genetically engineered for some reason — I think I could be misremembering that part.
5. Greenpeacers put down a world-tree super structure for the natives to explore and iirc indicate something about the Greenpeacers once their civilization had advanced enough in order to reach it.
6. Engineers shortly decide they need to genocide these people and launch an orbital missile strike and start being Nazis towards the natives.
Does any of that ring any sort of bell?

>>23289080
The Eighty-Minute Hour is great

>>23289880
That's a really good way to describe the agony of dune messiah. You think it was worth continuing to read the series?

what even

>>23290039
If you found the endless, substanceless inner monologuing that just boils down to "I have superhuman awareness" truly unbearable, then no I don't think it'd be worth it because that stuff isn't going anywhere.
If it was more that you were just sick of waiting for fucking anything to happen, though, then give it another try because Children and God Emperor have a much better ratio of wankery to things happening.

>>23289196
>Hello America
Based
>>23289398
Also based but I've already read these

>yfw bought a new bookshelf and didn't think you'd need to measure all your books first
None of my Neal Stephenson books fit and I'm gonna have to have a bunch on top and a bunch laying down and a bunch tucked behind

>>23290748
what's going on there at the bottom

>>23290748
I hate those fucking piece of shit shelves with covers on the side that make it impossible to take out the stuff behind it without first taking out ALL the books

>>23290748
Penis reveal when?

Don’t suppose anyone has read the Dragonheart series by Kirill Klevanski? I’m on book 2 so far and I’m quite enjoying it.
A good departure from the Chinese aesthetic we are used to in cultivation stories. I’m also liking the themes of brotherhood and glorified masculinity in it desu.

>>23290748
I'm plugging the library of America edition for Vonnegut, great selection of his work all worth the time, including the author's cover art and inline illustrations. For the worst of the best he's pretty good.

>>23290891
>cultivation lit without chinese aesthetic
could I get chinese aesthetic without cultivation lit instead?
I can only read Journey to the West ten million times before I need some other way to consume the inscrutable orient in fantasy fiction, surely there must be some chink novels out there that aren't Journey to the West and aren't anime?

>>23291050
Have you tried One Piece?

>>23290758
'ick on 'helf

>>23290891
I have, it's pretty good. By book 5 or 6 it goes down in quality then goes back up, however I dropped it by book 10, it seems the author lost interest in the story by that point, quality went down, also some the decisions he had taken (plot, writing) turned the story into generic western fantasy worse even than cradle.

>>23289484
The Valley of the Worm by Robert E. Howard

>>23289168
Riders of the Fire by Steve Dilks.
It's like 80s action movie; extremely cliched, but entertaining.

>>23289168
https://archived.moe/lit/thread/23257474/#23260828
If the premise of this series intrigues you I'll re-upload it.

>>23289460
>no cultivation, no xanxia, no litrpg
Sad state of affairs when this has to be explicitly stated

>>23289168
I haven't read pic related yet (been on my to-read-list for years), but I have read other books by the same author and enjoyed them. Also it's for free on Amazon.

Any more forgotten, occult/esoteric fantasy?

>tfw when you're trying to decide when and if you want to start a 1,111+ page book

>>23291627
I can't do it anymore. No more Neal Stephenson, no more Malazan. I'm 33 in August.. c'mon now I don't time for that shit actually, I do

>tfw you know you want to read today but for some reason it feels like you have to force yourself

>>23291705
I feel that way if I haven't done anything productive. I feel guilty for reading and relaxing.
Usually I'll do some working out and then feel better

>>23291527
kenneth morris

>>23289475
>try to do a little story for fun mixing classical theater characters transfigured with space opera lore, make it as entertaining as possible by making it narrated and illustrated
>try to share it on /tg/
>Fuck off it's not a rpg go to /lit/
>try to share it on /lit/
>Fuck off it's not real literature, go to /tg/
>Buy an add

Man, you guys really know you know how to kill the desire to create anything. Well, at least some anons liked it.

I'm learning Chinese and I just finished my Anki deck. Now on to reading compelling content and I'm thinking that Wuxia would be great for practice. Anyone here know what the most famous and well liked Wuxia works are? Saw someone mentioning "Jin Yong" in the archive but I guess there's more? Classics welcome but also ok with darker/gory/horror/erotic content as long as it's good.

>>23286287
Reading this now. Pretty good although I can see the wolfe, herbert and even rothfuss that this guy is using as a starting point.

>>23291779
4chan is all miserable fucks who hate everything myself included
don't get discouraged when you get what's written on the Jar keep creating anyways its more than the majority of us have/will do.

>>23291785
I enjoyed it far more than Name of the Wind personally, and your milage may vary on how much the fact that it wears its dune/40k inspiration on its sleeve sticks out to you but it didn't end up bothering me too much (haven't read Wolfe myself yet to say how similar they are)

>>23291781
(Also looking for Xianxia)

>>23291793
Thank you anon, but it's pretty sad. Those kind of places should be place to share and enjoy alternative works, creations and those kind of things. Because, where else ? I mean, most places on the internet works based on fame-reward, on all places paradoxically it's still the one where you can show your work under the equality of anonymity. I don't pretend my little story is perfect, hell, I publish it to have critics, particulary on the quality of my english subtitles which may not be that good honnestly. But indifference is kinda hard. But yeah, thanks for your words.

>>23287992
>book #14
that's when the slog begins, it gets good again in Companion Codex
>>23288111
>Forgotten Realms and RA Salvatore and Baldur's Gate are all gay
Forgotten Realms novels are pulp-kino

>>23291833
>novels are pulp-film
Excellent contribution to the thread, newfag. Take your forced meme and spam it back on >>>/tv/.

>>23291878
This nigga cookin'

What's something like A Court of Thorns and Roses but actually good?
I'm asking cause I wanna see if you guys can come up with something, cause I sure can't.

>>23291702
38 in August for me, I do have the time, and I did start the book.

>>23291960
i had a gf who masturbated to that. many such cases. is it about gay fae people? if so then...
>king of elfland daughter
>jack vances lyonesse

>>23291960
considering it's supposed to be a beauty and the beast retelling (albeit a shitty one), you could argue that the original story is probably better.

>>23291960
three hearts and three lions is my favorite fairy isekai

>>23291960
Fantasy romance smut for men?

>33 soon
>still haven't written my sword and sorcery magnum opus
It's too late for me, isn't it bros?

>>23292186
No. Dig into some Rosicrucian poetry for some inspiration and write the best S&S novel ever.

>>23291960
pic related is pretty good so far...smutty but the setting is cool

>>23292186
>It's too late me, isn't it bros?
>by the time REH was 30 he'd already written the GOAT S&S multiple times over and an hero'd
I'm afraid so anon.

>>23292186
GRRM was in his mid 50s when he published A Game of Thrones

Yeah but Game of Thrones is shit

>>23292246
John Ronald Reuel Tolkien was 45 when he started writing the first “Rings,” as a sequel to his 1937 “The Hobbit”; he was 63 when the third novel was published.

>>23292261
Woah.........

>>23292207
ohhh myyy

>>23289484
The Legends of the First Empire Series.
The humans are living in practically stone age conditions with only rare and expensive copper tools. They don't even have written language.

The humans of one of the clans tire of living under the boot of the elf and rebel. The humans progress technologically as the books progress to an iron age civilization

Any good dark gothic series? Really enjoyed Empire of the Vampire.

>>23292207
>That scene in book 3 when Phedre realizes making love while holding hands with Joscelin was the best sexual experience she ever had.
based

>>23292032
>three hearts and three lions is my favorite fairy isekai
based and holger danskepilled, I wrote a novel that was basically the same premise except about Arthurian legend intersecting with Anglo-Saxon England

>>23292454
is Joscelin a boy's name or is this yuri shit

>>23292462
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn

>>23292032
Thought this was shit. I read it after Broken Sword (masterpiece) and was really average. Think I'll read King of Ys next.

>>23292484
>didn't like Three Hearts and Three Lions
>Broken Sword (masterpiece)
The wee bairn's mickle sair aboot nae knowing his Matter of Charlemagne?

>>23292484
did you read the based christian broken sword or the cringe pagan broken sword?

dwarfs = reddit
elves = 4chan

>>23285977
>I do have the Riftwar Saga that I have yet to start, as well as Swords of Shannara.

Riftwar Saga is great. I'm 8 books in and I've enjoyed every page.

>>23289484
Bump
I saw the recs, ty fellas

>Dunyain
>Expelled from their home country by hordes of ravening savages
>They form an insular sect to learn how to best control the human mind
>One of their members comandeers culture and society from the masses by placing himself and his children in positions of authority
>[SPOILER] not matter the conflict, one of their members is always manipulating matters behind the scenes [/SPOILER]

Was Bakker making an allegory here?

>da joos!

>hasn't learned how to spoiler in the 4 years he's been shitposting
every thread is an embarrassment

>>23292027
Shit you're right
>>23292014
Straight fae people actually
>>23292039
Basically yeah, but it doesn't need to be smut

>>23293005
inb4 intentional spoiler bakker cunt

>>23291781
Death Scripture/Sutra is good but the translation is shit

>dad knows I like fantasy novels
>passing time before seeing a movie in a local bookshop
>have you read this anon? *picks up sanderslop*
>*snigger* heh.. no dad
>dad looks at me sadly

>>23293113
Should've said yes and that it wasn't your style.

>>23293005
Ctrl+S

>>23291050
there's the series Guy Gavriel Kay did about ancient NotChina but it's only very lightly fantasy

>>23291050
I haven't read it, but I've seen Bridge of Birds recommended before.

>>23292439
Tales from the Dark Tower

>gathering just enough courage to return home to our house to see if my father somehow managed to hide.
>He did not. I have no parents left.
>Now I look for my sister in the killing field.
Fuuuuck why is it so good. I swear the seventh book is just going to be one page long and it'll hit like a bullet to the temple.

Seriously though what does one call this writing device? Pierce has been using it more and more as the series goes on.

>>23293506
Tamora Pierce?

>>23293562
brown

>>23293113
based. I talk to my dad about gene wolfe all the time becaise I have no one to talk to about him and he is like what the fuck

>>23293506
Dark Age is going to blow your fucking mind

Anons, I'd like to plug The Cyberiad by Stanislaw Lem. It is a basically a cross between Rabelais and Asimov, a book of fairy tales of a robot society. It's not a children's book, but it's framed like one, and its a very interesting and unique read.

Here is a brief sample
One day Trurl the constructor put together a machine that could create anything starting with n. When it was ready, he tried it out, ordering it to make needles, then nankeens and negligees, which it did, then nail the lot to narghiles filled with nepenthe and numerous other narcotics. The machine carried out his instructions to the letter. Still not completely sure of its ability, he had it produce, one after the other, nimbuses, noodles, nuclei, neutrons, naphtha, noses, nymphs, naiads, and natrium. 'This last it could not do, and Trurl, considerably irritated, demanded an explanation.

"Never heard of it," said the machine.

"What? But it's only sodium. You know, the metal, the element..."

"Sodium starts with an s, and I work only in n."

"But in Latin it's natrium."

"Look, old boy," said the machine, "if I could do everything starting with n in every possible language, I'd be a Machine That Could Do Everything in the Whole Alphabet, since any item you care to mention undoubtedly starts with n in one foreign language or another. It's not that easy. I can't go beyond what you programmed. So no sodium."

"Very well," said Trurl and ordered it to make Night, which it made at once - small perhaps, but perfectly nocturnal.

>>23293619
I should have written, "fables", not fairy tales.

>>23289098
Red knight/traitor son.

>>23293619
I was wondering what the original line about "Night" was like but realised the translator didn't need to change it. Nice.

>>23285997
Going through all the audio books now instead of a reread.

The second series is solid, but really nowhere as good as the first. I remember the editing was terrible too, lots of typos and grammar errors.

The issue with trying to write a character with prescience as a normal human is that unless you are constantly refining you will leave to many open ends, for instance having to conquer Zakarpus and not either dominating or exterminating the Scylvendi while they were still weak after their loss.

>>23293643
The author is a shitlib.

>>23293665
The funny thing about that is that could mean anything from either side. For example Wiktionary quotes 4chan /pol/ members and also leftists for its examples.

>>23293643
>The Red Knight
Feels like it would be Arthurian.

>>23293736
Obviously inspired by, but I took "nothing Arthurian" to mean no actual arthurian stories, not "nothing Arthurian inspired".

>>23293724
I'm on the right, and Miles Cameron is a bona fide shitlib. Simple as.

>>23293643
The author is cringe and the story gets more and more pozzed with every book

>>23293643
this nigga so grimdark he makes GRRM look like a choir boy

>>23293850
>GRRM being any authority or expert on grimdark
Please go back to whatever normalfag forum you came from.

>>23285840
You HAVE bought a copy right /lit/? Ellison's greatest story contained in one book (with a great cover I must add).

>Featuring these stories and many more:

“‘Repent, Harlequin,’ Said the Ticktockman” — Hugo Award winner
“I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream” — Bram Stoker Award winner
“Mefisto in Onyx” — Bram Stoker Award winner
“Jeffty Is Five” — British Fantasy Award winner
“Shatterday” — Twilight Zone episode
“The Whimper of Whipped Dogs” — Edgar Allan Poe Award winner
“Paladin of the Lost Hour” — Hugo Award winner, Twilight Zone episode

>>23293883
forgot cover

any recs for some elf vs elf fantasy lit?
>Hard mode: no forgotten realms, Warhammer or any book tie-ins from tabletop rpgs

>>23293839
Yeah. The androgynous tranny and polyamorous faggot kinda came out of left field in the last couple books.
But it's still pretty good if you just skip those chapters.

I am reading Father of monstrosity, currently at chapter 30.
Very thin plot, things just happen, mc (who has knowledge of alchemy etc) is passing through a district and he just happens to be mistaken for a high level official by some random person and given a pharmacy to run, with zero verification of his identity, with zero regard to his appearance, this also happened twice. MC is always wearing a leather apron and a coat made of human skin and a weird gas mask (that is only required in specific environment outside the city) but no one really pays attention to it. A random female barges into the pharmacy wanting to rob it, instead mc takes her in as a servant, tells her most of his plans, murders people in front of her and then tells her he doesn't care about her and she can do whatever she wants and he may kill her but then sends her on errands not even worried she might go to the guards and expose him. Another servant turns into a demon, and MC does not care. Later it is revealed the female is a worshipper of some deity or something, MC still doesn't care but now it's revealed he actually hates this deity and the female but he does nothing about it. MC is passing through another district in the city and notices a person running, MC catches the guy, nearly kills him, the person is a royal messenger, MC finds out that he was carrying instructions to mages and all city guards to look out for a strange young boy wearing clothes made of leather and his tall bodyguard. MC sends a petty thief to steal something from mages tower, it takes the thief 30 minutes to infiltrate the tower and steal some extremely rare and powerful books that even a powerful hundreds of years old evil magician villain of the series could not get his hands on.

The plot and dialog is erratic. Things just happen out of nowhere. As I said plot is thin so the author often has to pad it with fancy prose, once unpacked it really are just words without much meaning or relevance. Same with invocation rituals, the methods to craft flesh etc, author just throws those around without much follow up.

This novel is not great. Plot, story, characters, dialog are all poorly planned and poorly executed, fancy prose used as padding doesn't add much to the novel either.
Not sure why this has such a high rating..

In dune when clairvoyants speak to their ancestors, are they talking to a simulation of them purely from memory or is it actually them and their will interfacing with the world from some astral otherworld?
I suppose it’s left up to interpretation but Vlad certainly seems to hold much more weight to him (haha) than other memories so I guess it also depends on a persons powers?
Also could you ask who really is Paul anymore after he drinks the water of life like with Severian after his brain dinner.

>>23293619
comparing Lem to Asimov is sacrilege

>>23293839
Implying that the Jean de Vrailly sections aren't kino.
>De Vrailly raised both eyebrows. ‘I am a lord, and I have the High Justice, the Middle Justice, and the Low Justice right here in my scabbard. I need no man’s leave to take a life. I have burned more peasants’ cots than a boy has pulled the wings off flies.’ De Vrailly shook his head. ‘Take my word, your Grace: the man received due payment for his foolishness. Let us hear no more about it.’

>>23287800
It was the first time I read a book like that, where its more of a diary and theyre just little people with actual zero impact no matter how well they do. They go above and beyond in the first of the three but it feels like they saved maybe an hours worth of work from the real main character. I stopped somewhere in the 1st book in the next omnibus it literally has the opposite issue you had with this one where the entire first half of the first book feels like it would have been skipped in a time jump in the black company but it also matches who croaker has turned into over the first 3 books so it should be writen like that it just drags on and on. Then I got a job where I couldnt sit on my phone for 4 hours a day and never picked it back up. Maybe dont buy it until you read it?

>>23286311
only read the free web version of half of those but I couldnt get into the unedited version of the top three on the left but they were all very popular, defiance was pretty good though
>>23286290
I shall seal the heavens is considered like top top wuxia and revered insanity is with it theyre one of the first recommendations people get when they want to start reading wuxia.

Just finished this. Great atmosphere.

Reading this right now, it is very fun

>>23294491
I've been meaning to go back and finish this for a while now I think I made it until chapter 12 and for some reason never finished it

>>23294558
its got a little bit of everything and some very cool worldbuilding. i hear the sequel is excellent as well.
"Judas Unchained" great title.

>>23294264
they're both mid-century autistic eastern european jews

What does anyone think of A Practical Guide To Evil? I've just finished book 1 and it seems pretty alright.

>>23294894
>A Practical Guide to Evil is a YA fantasy novel about a young girl
Stopped reading there.

>>23293883
I plan on getting it

>>23294918
I've got some spoilers and it turns out to no longer be YA about halfway though, because enough time has passed she's just a full blown adult woman bossing around a bunch of kids who were older than her at the beginning of book 1. So I'm interested to see how that turns out.

>>23293888
>foreword by neil gaiman
I will never by a book if there's the slightest possibility that slimy kike will profit from it.

>>23294080
its a simulation, this is one of the few things thats explained pretty clearly anon...

>>23295117
>getting triggered by slimy kike Gaiman but not slimy kike Ellison

>>23295155
>yfw you actually eat a melonpan

>>23295160
I grew up with them
They're just bread with sugar on top. Not particularly enjoyable at all

>>23295027
>she's just a full blown adult woman bossing around a bunch of kids
>So I'm interested to see how that turns out.

>>23295155
Ellison's alright, he's written some stuff I liked.

>>23293614
I hope youre not saying this just because a bunch of characters die.

Reading this book and man is it a wild ride
From glassing worlds to old people having a date

>>23295249
No I'm saying it because it's Brown's best work yet, and introduces one of my favorite villians in a very long time Atlas Au Raa, the Fear Knight

>>23294403
This is quite possibly the most depressing thing I've read today, I do sincerely hope the next omnibus in the series doesn't start out boring like you mentioned. I usually do all my books through the library and only buy if they are truly meaningful to my life.

You are probably spot on about the people not nessecarily changing all that much of the outcomes. It's refreshing that they don't just one man hero the battle of charm etc.

I am 80 pages into shadow and claw by Gene Wolfe and it's um, boring so far but I am just gonna put it on 1.5-2x speed and hope it picks up. Glen Cook kinda spoiled me with the brevity and pacing of the first omnibus.

Give me good names for AIs please.

>>23295305
lets go, im hyped!

>>23295455
boobamommy-5000

Where does he rank on the list of greatest fantasy authors of all time?

>>23295455
Naruto

>>23295534
Low, but still higher than GRRM because at least he finishes his books.

>>23295537
...does he?

>>23295534
Pale imitation of the real brando sando

>>23295455
>Give me good names for AIs please.
you can just look at real world examples: https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open_llm_leaderboard
>TomGrc_FusionNet_34Bx2_MoE_v0.1_DPO_f16
>ogno-monarch-jaskier-merge-7b-OH-PREF-DPO-v4-test
>Nous-Hermes-2-Mixtral-8x7B-DPO
lmao these names are all much better than anything ive ever seen in a work of fiction

>>23295562
>nous hermes
this is literally pulled straight from sci fi, read more.

>>23295562
Thanks.

>>23295534
He's not on that list.

>>23295545
...doesn't he?

>>23295564
this is literaly pulled straight from the greeks, read more.

>>23292777
checked but clearly the (((Inchoroi))) are the metaphor for a certain predatory, parasitic self-described “chosen people” playing humanity against each other for their own self-serving and evil ends. Kellhus is a Nietzschean, Aryan Overman.

>>23293893
um, the Silmarillion?

>>23295589
I'm still waiting for the next mistborn book. And btw when was the last storm book published?

Started reading Coiling Dragon, what did (you) think of it?

>>23295707
isn’t it that genre of the chinese version of western fantasy so you get characters like Chuck Sneed, Seed-Eating Realm Expert, where Chuck is actually his surname and his given name is Sneed?

>>23295673
2020, with the next one coming this year. Since then he's published 6 novels: 1 mistborn, 2 skyward, and 3 standalone cosmere novels. That doesn't include some short stories and novellas released in that time either. Compare that to GRRM who hasn't released a novel since 2011.

I think Sanderson is a pretty mediocre writer, but that he doesn't write enough is like the only criticism you can't make in good faith.

>>23295707
It was my first LONG xianxia that I read to completion. I remember a lot and not much; and feel it wasn't very significant overall, compared to other books. CD did popularize xianxia in the West though so it merits that.

>>23295534
He's on that list.

>>23295719
oh wait there was one in 2020? was it good? did he finally get an editor?

>>23295455
Usually puns and acronyms like GLaDOS and HAL

>>23295739
Come up with a backronym BooBA-5000 or MoMMi

>>23295562
>these names are all much better than anything ive ever seen in a work of fiction
ah yes the iconic TomGrc_FusionNet_34Bx2_MoE_v0.1_DPO_f16

>>23295749
>MoMMi
Mechanized Operational Maternal Maid Interface

>>23295762

>>23295455
Talos, Daedalos/Daidalos, Solomon. Can't go wrong with ancient myth.

>>23293619
How did they translate "nauka"? The dirrect translation is "science", but that of course doesn't work.

>>23285997
on the second book rn. it's bomb.

>>23295455
AI are always gendered as female because they're just symbolically talking about our greatest fear: the idea that women might, in fact, be sentient beings.

>>23296040
So there's the idea of the toxic female, the mother who belittles her child and refuses to let go, refuses to let him become an adult and take responsibility for his own actions. There's also the idea of the temptress, who takes a man's natural proclivities and takes it too far and inverts it. And there's ideas like Eve in the garden of eden, who is gullible and lets in the snake when Adam is not watching.

>>23296101
you jest but this is unironically the reason. ai is an exotic temptation, therefore feminine.

>>23296101
What about the sexy (voice) secretary and nothing more? Like AI miss Bellum.

>>23296040
HAL?

>>23296242
Thought up when no one thought women were sentient yet.

In the mood to read some books after watching Dune, any good beginner and easy-to-read books to get me into the genre?

>>23296362
Dune

I don't like horniness or sex in my fantasy stories :)

>>23296596
Didn't ask.

>>23296596
gay

>>23296596
I like horniness or sex in anon's fantasy stories

>>23296596
I hope the next fantasy novel you read has a sudden, explicit & plot-critical sex scene in it.

>>23296801
That's so mean.

>>23296596
I like horniness and sex in my fantasy stories :)

Wow they're actually making A Very Short Introduction for Tolkien

>>23295665
This.

>>23294462
I've heard she is good. Supposedly a lot of her work has the same wistful tone as Dunsany. I've also heard goof things about her prose - how did you find it?

Talk shit, get hit.

>>23296844
>this nerd saved fantasy

>>23296840
This is the only McKillip book I've read so far but she didn't remind me of Dunsany, probably because the titles of his I've read have been too different subject-wise. It's true though, her prose has a very wistful, dreamy quality which helped the story immensely. It feels rich and baroque without devolving into purple prose and is very easy to visualise.

>>23296891
Sounds great. I'll have to check it out. I own a short story collection by her which is yet unread, I'll have to dig it out after I finish my current stack.

>>23294427
>revered insanity
It's pretty good if you don't mind really an evil fucker as MC (not antihero) and zero comedy.

Sarah J. Maas Is The Year’s Top Author As Fantasy And Romance Dominate March Bestseller List...has sold 3.1 million print books so far in 2024

>>23296904
I hope you enjoy it, anon. Ombria convinced me to try some of her other books.

>>23296891
NTA but I read The Forgotten Beasts of Eld a month or two ago and the first thing that came to mind was "this is just The King of Elfland's Daughter but good"

>>23296801
>plot-critical sex scene in it
If you're talking about straight up written porn it literally doesn't exist

>there are posters in this thread who don't think Elfland's Daughter is good
What happened to /sffg/....

>>23297296
Reading The King of Elfland's Daughter is like reading Pride and Prejudice

>>23297296
>Elfland's Daughter
Stopped reading there

>>23297574
>>23297453
I genuinely don't understand how somebody into fantasy couldn't enjoy it. Both of you: what were your problems with it?

>>23295305
>>23295509
seconding the opinion on how great DA is except that for me it's Apollonius over Atlas for villains in this series i fucking love the glorious bastard character trope

>>23297616
The basic plot is enjoyable enough, but it really is just that: a basic bare-bones plot. The florid dreamlike prose is utterly wasted on a big fat nothing. There is nothing you gain from really reading it that can't be gained from the wikipedia synopsis. It's not the kind of book you want to spend several hours actually poring your eyes over the text, it's the kind of story you want someone else to read to you for about 20 minutes or so at bed-time.
Now The Char-woman's Shadow was much, much better, though I still found it much the same sort of literary accomplishment as Jane Austen, just written to be consumed by men instead of women.

>>23297783
>There is nothing you gain from really reading it that can't be gained from the wikipedia synopsis.
Completely disagree. The book is all atmosphere - how can you effectively 'feel' that from reading a quick synopsis?

>start reading The Broken Sword
>third chapter had elf on troll rape
I was not expecting that.

>>23295534
I generally put him pretty high, but he's been on a bit of a dip lately. All four of the secret projects novels were unremarkable by his standards (Triss probably being the best of the four despite two of the others having better ideas and the remaining one being straight up awful). The Skyward series was an overall waste of his years with the second book being the best of the bunch. He's also started outsourcing stuff which just feels weird.

I'm still hyped for Stormlight 5, but 3 and 4 stumbled in some ways for character arcs too and since I'm talking about his better series, I don't think Mistborn era 2's final book was as good as either of the two that came before it and that's with it coming out many years later than it should after the almost weirdly close release of the previous two.

It also sort of annoys me that Mistborn Era 3 which seems to be the next main stage of his writing isn't planned to have a book come out until late 2028, which is fucking years from now. That's a huge gap between Stormlight 5 at the end of this year and then and Stormlight 6 isn't due until that entire trilogy wraps up.

So yeah mini rant over, but it's clear he's not what he was 8-10 years ago. I still appreciate him though, TWOK is the novel that got me back into reading and it's still one of my favorites. I still think he has what he takes, but he's got to use it.

>>23297616
Plot is dumb. It reads like a some love story/romance/drama. I don't like those.

Why is this fuck always jumping around in his stories? It only works if the B plot is worth following. I don't want the extra info that B plot and C plot bring if I can't stand the characters in it.

>>23295534
>rank

>>23297264
Sarah-san I knell....

Why is Susan Sto Helit always so angry

>>23298616
no idea who that is but it sounds like a woman so you've just answered your own question

>>23298616
To attempt to make sense of a woman's emotion is the height of folly, Anon.

>>23298389
Because he based his entire style on what was commercially successful and multiple povs ruled the 90's to early 2000's

>>23295707
It's not very good imo
Interesting from a genre standpoint because it plays it pretty straight and generic but it has all the standard problems of the protagonist being too strong and morally grey for the plot to present any interesting dilemmas

WEW LADDIE THIS IS SOME THICK BROGUEISH PROSE.

>>23298716
>implying multiple POVs aren't still commercially successful
Anon it's time you open a book that was written after 1985

>>23298823
not what I said

>>23297853
get ready for the chapter where the elf milf reveals she fucks her human son (god i wish that was me)

>>23298840
dude my kids are reading the screen don't post shit like that without spoiler tags

>>23298762
>susussus on niggs

>>23298840
>>23298846
Can confirm, I am his kid.

>>23297294
Actually it does. Have you ever read erotica?
Granted I'm not reading Penguin House spank. But there's some hot stuff online.

NEW THREAD UP

>>23299375
>>23299375
>>23299375

>>23297853
Tell me more. Who's the author?

>>23299388
Poul Anderson. Don't put your hopes up though, it's only an oblique mention. It just caught me by surprise.