/lit/ - Literature

Any of you somebody that likes to argue and debate but managed to make yourself stop?

I am doing the best that I can.

After getting to know a lot of professors and administrators, I firmly believe some people are too smart to do well in college. Above a certain threshold of intelligence and especially nuanced principled thinking, the demand is basically to dumb yourself down.

>>23293961
Yep, whereas arguing is a midwit activity, so just make your IQ higher or lower until you stop arguing. At just above midwit you will begin stalking and documenting your enemies. At the lower end you will just start asserting things without feeling a need to justify them. Its all the same infuriating waste of time unless you wanna go so far as to trepan your IQ out physicly.

What's the point of reading Hegel?

>>23293895
My attitude is great, actually.

I have never known the touch of a woman and at this point I am ready to accept I never will.

>>23293999
why? you cant be that hopeless

>>23293999
You can always pay for it, you know.

>>23293999
Smart, if you're the type of guy who gives up you wouldn't get pussy if you tried for a hundred years.
Good decision.

how many threads are you keeping an eye on rn?

>>23294000
I can't talk to women or strangers for that matter.

Only gf I ever had actually asked me out in high school. I was so nervous being around her that I dodged her for several days and lied about being sick from school. Eventually she figured I just disliked her or something and broke it off after about a month of me barely talking. Outside of that, women basically find me repulsive and emotionally unavailable, both of which are justified and true.

>>23293989
I really only argue with the sort of middle-upper middle intelligence people because they’re the ones that make claims absent of reasoning or with some sort of fallacy or whatever. Honestly, dude sometimes I feel like literally everyone is a midwit, but I guess that’s normal. I just can’t keep my mouth shut. It’s like I have to prove my intelligence by showing them why they’re wrong.

>>23294002
Paying for it isn't what I want, I want a person I can hold and share myself with and not have them be repulsed by what they see.

>>23294027
Why would you want that?
Are you trans?

Poem I wrote, any feedback appreciated:

I cannot give you much more than that
Said mr small to mr fat
I shan’t deceive your wife again
She’s far too simple, far too plain
I won’t behave again like that
Said mr small to mr fat

There’s not much more to say than this
And yet I fear you may insist
On seeing me brought up on charges
Relating to these undue hardships
To which I say, with no remorse
Let the action run its course

>>23294027
Me too. I would even be okay with never having sex ever if it meant having a true loving relationship T B H

>>23294027
There's probably prostitutes that specialize in that stuff. Hot lovable girlfriend experience that has slow gentle sex with you and looks deep into your eyes and then cuddles with you while you cry out your trauma.

>>23294018
wow... yeah, I have a similar problem. actually the only girls who like me are girls I'd consider way out of my league, uglier girls kind of hate me.

probably there is something attractive there, but also we're unapproachable & the only girls who would throw a pass are more alpha(?)

>>23294050
I like it for some reason. Though I'm not sure what you're talking about.

>>23293961
I used to really get into it with anons, especially if it's an author or topic I'm very familiar with, but what I began to realize is that arguing with anon's on /lit/ and really all boards, is an exercise in futility. Few if any anons are really interested in learning or expanding their knowledge and understanding on 4chan and the internet at large. In general social media (which 4chan is, whether you realize that or not) is not designed for progress or learning. It's designed to be polarizing and extreme. It is the exceedingly rare exception that I meet an anon who is level headed and interested in learning and improving their understanding, and not just arguing to argue for an ego trip/boost.

>>23293961
Yeah

>>23294050
very late 20th century, twitter would probably love it

>>23294072
NTA but it wouldn't be real. It would be another hollow, simulated experience in an already hollow life.

>>23293999
I've known the touch of women and men. I'm in love with my best friend and the feeling are reciprocal, but my parents are homophobes. Decisions, decisions...

>>23294014
3, including this one. But I just hopped on /lit/ so 2 are basically generals.

>>23294114
Better than nothing, no?

>>23294099
I agree it is an exercise in futility. I think you made me realize that partly why I engage and get into it is because I get frustrated since we’re all pretty much constantly surrounded by discourse these days and I just hear takes and questions and I think “nobody fucking gets it”. It’s created a feeling that is actually kind of like loneliness and maybe im lashing out. Intuitively understand that debate accomplishes nothing but I just have this impulse to somehow correct. Do you know what I mean? It’s like trying to demand that everyone just fix themselves, and it’s largely out of frustration for not seeing a path to fix things with action, I think. For some reason I want nobodies to understand philosophy and literal whos to get politics and economics and “get it right”. Same with you?

I keep willingly and woefully misuing my free will for short-term gain with the awarness that it'll cause me unimaginable long-term damage down the line.

I yearn for the faustian spirit. Right now i have none.

>>23293961
I fall in and out of the habit. If you hold yourself to a certain standard, though, it can be not a total waste of time. At least it forces you to formulate your thoughts and put them up for criticism (even though the majority of that criticism will end up being retarded and useless to you), and sometimes it actually makes you think.

>>23294139
Just wait with fagging out until you have enough cash that they can't hold you hostage.

You don't have to be gay right now right this instant. You can do this like 2 years from now once you have saved up 10 k in the bank account.

This way if your dad spazzes out like a faggot you'll be easily able to just remove yourself from the family and ghost him.
Yeah it's not optimal but nothing in life is. I just don't think you can afford to be gay and financially dependent on your faggot retard kike negro dad

>>23294192
Debate sways lurkers that have no emotional investments in the argument. That's the point of shilling and psyops. 80% of the people on 4chan never post even once- those lurkers are the people that you are supposed to convince during an argument.

>>23294192
You've phrased is exactly. It definitely bothers me when someone engages in a topic they are so clearly ignorant in as if they are experts. That bothers me more than anything. I am no expert (in fact I think the concept doesn't exist) but I at least know what I do and don't understand. I realize though that what I should do is try to channel that energy and passion into something more useful and gratifying. In the end these threads will archive and all that time, energy, focus and effort will have been for naught.

My crippling loneliness is infact crippling me. There isn't a singel day, a singel hour where I don't daydream about having some deeper connection with someone, I want to belong, I want someone want to hug me, for someone to listen to me and someone caring for me to listen, to hand me a fucking beer or whatever else and play games with, and most importantly to be finally understood. I want to be abled to talk where I do not have to meticulously think each and every word I say or else, I already have trust issues and troubles opening up and being prosecuted and misunderstood anytime I open my mouth is beyond exhausting. Right now I wonder how many anons also feel this way. Im certain my standpoint isnt that unique.

>>23294237
Yeah, me.

I got a way out of doing a thesis. I am happy and yet feel defeated by not doing it.
My supervisor told me I have time to do the work I really want to do on my thesis, but right now I need to finish my degree and then, when I have time, do the work.
Still, now I need to train for the next tests.

>>23294205
Yeah that hubris is really grating. It's sad because I feel like for a person with any sense of curiosity it's so much *more* gratifying to know what you don't know, to feel the magnitude of what's out there to be learned, but of course this environment selects for people who are impervious to that feeling. Really it just speaks to the sad state of the world at large that anyone at all with a sincere love of literature could be pushed to spend time in this shithole.

Dark skinned futa on chubby female

>>23294289
Well said yet again. Another pet peeve is to have a take on an author or work generally without providing any evidence or support. If I have a strong feeling for a work or an authors oeuvre, I'm also ready to instance several examples as evidence for my feeling that way. But I also get the impression more often than not that many anon's are parroting opinions from faux critics instead of reading works themselves and thinking critically and disceringly about what they've read. Or, in otherwords: I wonder if anyone here really reads much at all.

Shouldn’t it be FRBR? Because op is technically the first post

>>23294347
Nta but yeah very few people read. It's worse on reddit, booktok, and anywhere else though. As much as I complain about /lit/ not reading, this is actually the only place where I have spoken to people that really seemed to have truly read and understood a work, and managed to have original thoughts on said work.
As >>23294289 mentioned, /lit/ is a complete shithole but it's telling that it's probably one of the best places to discuss literature.

>>23294357
OP's a faggot he doesn't count

>>23294240
who are you anon? tell me

>>23294329
I'm so glad that I don't know what this means

It's quite ironic that the classes who might make use of literature the most and be capable of creating the best literature read and write the least and those who are to the arts and the mind as a desert is to agriculture are those who read and write the most by quantity. Unlike sports, sex, or the sciences, the humanities are the only field where those who are the least naturally suited for the field are the ones engaging with it the deepest and those most suited for it barely have any interest in engaging with it at all. An entire field full of out of shape midgets trying to play basketball.

>>23294203
But there’s a difference between a bit of debate as sport and getting triggered. Furthermore, it’s not healthy to always be debating. I just get so frustrated.


>>23294205
Too right about channeling energy. Constant discourse is not healthy or normal.

>>23294289
I’m guilty of wanting to be right more than I want to learn fairly often, but I really never feel like there is anything to learn. I really can’t remember the last time I felt like someone could teach me something and I feel like I’m just constantly detecting logical fallacies or sophistry or just some kind of bullshit even from otherwise smart people.

The state impedes healthy male sexuality

>>23294347
I actually think /lit/ is relatively good in this regard although I’ve noticed that many of the really quality people have left in the last few years and the quality has plummeted in general

>>23294045
Just because a man wants that doesn’t mean they’re trans. I’ve been out of a relationship for seven years and haven’t felt the touch of a woman since then.

No more ghosts

>>23294390
>but I really never feel like there is anything to learn
I don't mean learning from /lit/ itself, I just mean that I'll see someone post an opinion about something of which they very clearly have only the most infinitesimally superficial knowledge and if I try to give them a tiny hint as to what they're missing, maybe point in the direction of some introductory book that would familiarize them with the lay of the land, it immediately becomes clear that they are only interested in the topic insofar as it is a means for them to assert their opinion. It's my own fault for only posting in those contentious contexts though, I often think it would be much better if I just made a thread about something and let people who are actually interested show up as they please, but I never quite feel motivated to go through with it.

>>23294347
>I'm also ready to instance several examples as evidence for my feeling that way
This is really the biggest lack I notice, it seems like people never get into detail. Makes the discussions feel incredibly same-y because it's always just "X is unsurpassed", "Y btfos X", "Z said X > Y", etc.

>>23294360
To be fair I'm probably guilty of not giving places like /truelit a chance, I'm sure on some level they can be better albeit also a lot slower. But being part of a shitty incestuous little community just feels so much more undignified when it's not anonymous.

Waiting for the money to arrive.

>>23294202
>da jooos are preventing me from having crusty butt sex with my boyfriend

>>23294018
Socially I'm your opposite in most respects, and relax into, and out of, conversation without felt effort, pretty much without regard to situation, subject, rank, sex, age, or whatever. I like more than the usual measure of quiet and solitude, but have talked with and remember so many people in detail that it's a little ridiculous. At the same time, I am trash when it comes to commitment, marriage, and the kind of steady work that brings home the big bucks it takes to raise a family. I'm as charming as I am useless, but nevertheless on good or amiable terms with men and women whose nature encompasses the best of both worlds. Yesterday I met a couple for which that's the case for both. She is almost unbelievably beautiful and fine in her softly feminine way, and he is kind and capable as I could never be.

>>23293951
My head hearts, the social spins and orbits came to conclusion and now the time has come gor an entire life to hit me.
The void before the restart.

>>23294458
good feeling

>>23294450
lol yeah I know what you mean. People are only interested in topics because they want to dominate you with their opinion about it.

What’s the realistic path to getting published? Seems like the only way is to get short stuff in small mags and publishers and maybe get an MFA.

>>23294492
Yeah, I think what I'm talking about is slightly different since it usually comes up in the context of niche things where the person is just genuinely ignorant and gets a thrill out of being dismissive and assuming they can know without putting in any effort (or they're actually trolling with intent).
For philosophy topics what you're saying is definitely true, and maybe for some of the more well-known fiction authors too. I can be that way sometimes but I would at least have the decency to feel ashamed at "winning" an argument without actually having done my homework.

>>23294474
Would the jews want you to be happy amd fulfilled?

I have autism?

>>23294569
No.

Reason rationalizes, but it does not discover.

>>23294114
Listen man, if you want something real you have to go out and find it and be willing to accept whatever it is you find

I wish magic was real.

I wish the Lacuna technology from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was real so that I could erase you from my memory entirely and be okay again

Just remembered that time I caught my father watching porn. Forgot what exactly it was, which I suppose I should be grateful for.

god I wish I had someone to listen music with right now...

>>23294635
My dad's super racist but i caught him looking at some big booty blacks before.

>>23294635
>his father was a degenerate coomer who failed to provide him with a model of righteous masculinity
It was over for you before it even began, anon.

>>23294624
How do you know it's not?
Also I hope frogs don little robes and go around waking each other up from their mud hibernation by pretending they're doing necromancy. Pls do not dissuade me, /an/ons

>>23294497
Don't be a straight white male.

>>23294366
A lunatic. Go out and make your life better by any means necessary.

I think I met a real life background character. She is so fucking boring. Her favorite things are Taylor swift and Boba tea. She only listens to pop music from the last 20 years. She only watches Pixar movies. The only books she reads are self help books. She has no meaningful opinions or views on anything. She has no knowledge of history or the humanities. She wanted to go to an art museum. She had no interest in the art. She just wanted to pose with an exhibit that's popular on Instagram. She only eats noodles (she's asian). Her appearance is very plain. Not ugly not attractive. But even plain girls can style themselves that catch attention. Not her. She dresses very generically. I've taken her to all kinds of places. She has no interested in botanical gardens, or art, or nature, or local attractions. The only place she liked was the mall. All she has ever suggested is sitting in a starbucks to do homework. Instead of working she jist plays candy crush. She is just so fucking boring. Not an NPC or P Zombie. But just a background character.

>>23294665
What's her number?

>>23293951
----Solaria ---
9075
Fortune as Fate

Time and chance has a certain sustain
Astonishing even to memory.

One simply drifts into rich and pleasant lands
Without conscious calculation

Like dreamers do on imperial heights where
Reality surpasses all imagining.

>>23294665
Do not be so quick to judge another. You do not know if the spirit of God prefers to dwell in you or them. - Macarius the Great

>>23294695
Yeah well tell her boring ass that. She judges me all the time.

>>23294665
She sounds like the average woman. Women are basically natural background NPCs by design, anyway.

>>23294715
No they're not, the average man is. A truly stupendous cope.

>>23294638
what are you into

>>23294665
That’s 90% of women

>>23294729
Women literally are. The average woman is the perfect blueprint for whatever is the social norm of her peer group. In any given peer group, the women are indistinguishable from on another. Not to mention that all different groups of women aggregate into an amorphous technicolored blob of "MOST SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE AVERAGE POLITICAL OPINION" with none at all being any particular outlier. Even their Marxists / Nazis are just milquetoast socialists that say "teehee I hate black people but I love my black boyfriend ;)" or "Eat the rich... Wait! I need my iphone and astrological power crystals :)"
This is very different from men's groups where there is a lot of banter, disagreement, and diversity. Boomer men are where you'll meet real NPC men.

>>23294744
Wouldn't it be great if women could pull the same trick as men, where the terrible large man eats smaller men and grows physically larger as a sign of dominance? If women could stop bickering and just combine their life force into one awesome female body they could easily dominate any man whom they wanted to... At least as long as the gloves remain ON.

>>23294744
Blaming 13% of the population for your troubles, a population with an average IQ of 80, is pretty pathetic. You lost control of your women and most of your tax money supports and protects them while they cuckold you in hedonistic bliss. You accept it, because you would rather live as a slave than risk resisting in any way. You whine on /pol/ like women on a Reddit forum, waiting for Trump, or Jesus, or whoever to save you. You are less then men, and your lives are lived accordingly, in compromised weakness, without agency. You get what you deserve. The life of a cowardly, submissive serf is your fate. Your bloodlines were living the same way for millennia in Europe, and now you are living that way here, after a brief period where you were gifted a free continent to live as free men, which you squandered as you reverted back to your apathetic slave religion, beer, and sportsball. Now the serf is becoming obsolete with the advent of AI, and your bloodlines will slowly pass away, with nothing to trade for a living. It would be more dignified to acknowledge your situation and pass away in stoic silence. No one cares about your whiny bitchiness.

>>23294773
Why did you go on a schizophrenic rant? My post had literally nothing to do with black people, and the only reason I mentioned blacks was to highlight how even seemingly extremist women only do so as an aesthetic choice but do not actually have strong convictions that deviate noticeably from what is acceptable.

Your meds: Take them.

>>23294731
mostly rock, but some electronic music too.
Here's one of my favorite songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy4HA3vUv2c

>>23293951
Going to finish reading The Bible tonight. Thankful.

>>23294791
a lot more basic than i was expecting, it has to be said

Might be on me for being an autistic sperg, but i can't for the life of me understand why people spaz out at you if you get genuinely into something.

Was into J.P for a bit and people from my social circle gave me shit for it. I don't think he says anything that crazy, it's basically just self-help.
i'm mostly a bitch for those crazy cultural allegories he makes with like Pinokio and stuff. That shit is sick.

I'm not like a 100% soldier of his either. I was just hyped about some old vids of his and people i thought were cool descended upon me for no reason. I get that anytime i get really into something be it a figure, game, or a book.

Why does it just piss people off when you're excited about something?

>>23294806
and what are you into ?

I post about being lonely and tfw no gf and all that shit a lot but the truth is that a lot of my life is lived alone and wouldn't be the same with someone else with me.
I value stillness. What is most comforting and enjoyable for me are places with little human presence and little to do with human beings. If I had someone to share those things with, they would be spoiled by the presence of a social connection in what should be unstained solitude. When I'm alone I can focus on what's around me and forget that I'm a human being too, but with others I am forced to return to humanity.
And yet I still get lonely and crave intimacy. Not very often, but it does happen, and when it does it can be unbearable. There doesn't seem to be a way to resolve this conundrum.

>>23294811
What do you mean they give you shit? If it happens often then you're probably just bad at expressing why these things are interesting and worthwhile so your social circle can understand you better. It's borderline autistic to go on and on about stuff without being able to read the vibe and whether people are into it or not.

>>23294836
I feel like i could read that, but the thing is is that they say nothing WHILE i talk about it, and then bring it up like 2 weeks later and call me retarded over it without a prompt.

I will never read Cervantes, Rabelais, Moliere, or anyone else whose primary appeal is humor, irony, or satire, because I don't consider anything as feminine and intellectually vacuous as mockery to be worth my time. Either try to say or express something about the cosmos, society, or the human condition or get the fuck out of here.

>>23294818
here's one of my favourite songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH8ejHICwzI

One of my very good buddies that I met online has turned out to have connections in the film industry, and he asked me to email him my screenplay. This is somewhat exciting. It might be nothing, but imagine if I could sell that thing?

>>23294863
Do you really think they're not trying to express something with their satire? You think they've been lauded by intellectuals for hundreds of years for being the 17th century equivalent of the Three Stooges?

>>23294863
t. philistine

>be me, mid-20s
>psychotically depressed since high school
>video games, drugs, anime and working minimum wage to pay for them not cutting it anymore
>apply to one of those Good Books schools because the program seems interesting, all you do is talk about canonical works, thinking it might distract me from my mental illness
>turn in 1488 word schizopost about The Crying of Lot 49 for the essay prompt
>get a scholarship
I still have no idea if I should go or kill myself at this point. After visiting the program seems kind of larpy and a scammy even though the people are nice enough albeit also pretentious (very defensive about their academic prestige despite not appearing on any shortlists for liberal arts schools). It was my dream in high school to go to like Brown, Amherst or Grinnell but by the time I got to senior year I was way too much of a burnout midwit to go, let alone cope with more school. Thankfully money is no issue cuz my grandmother was a gold digger but I'm not sure if I should do this or go to like Japan or Germany for a language immersion program.

>>23294876
not bad, I mostly preferred the second half of it.
Maybe you will like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p_Si21ig7c&list=FLKH9YYMoy9f_K9yRAkU6Jlg&index=44
But as I said rock isn't all I listen to, here's another one that I like that isn't rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiZVjfjgNyY

>>23294715
I don't know about that. I know girls with personality. Met this great girl in college. She had a unique style, was into a local music scene, was learning guitar, drew and designed art, took pictures of butterflies as a hobby, was learning guitar. Beyond her hobbies she was fun to talk to. Even if it was small talk it was fun and flirty. This other girl is like a fucking robot. Talking is like pulling teeth. She is so fucking boring.

>>23294923
Go for it
Game the system and never look back.
That's literally what everyone else does, you just posses the flaw of humility.

I wonder if I'm just seeing things but it kinda feels like early zoomers are more technoskeptical than either mid-generation millennials or zoomers born past the new millennium. If I had to guess why I would probably say that they were born too late to buy into the whiggish view of technological progress but also born too early to pretend that the world was always like what it became with the invention of social media. Kinda like people born at the ass end of the belle epoque, too jaded to be idealistic and too aware of how things used to be to consider the modern hellscape their natural habitat.

>>23294923
no reason not to if you got a scholarship, anything's better than just wasting away

>>23294923
I got my Bachelor of Arts in Great Texts of the Western Tradition. It's 100% worth it and I wouldn't trade my time reading all those great works for anything in the world. It made me the person I am today. Go for it, Anon.

>>23294947
>>23294951
>>23294955
Thanks for the encouragement. I will more deeply consider it now I just need some kind of psychoanalysis first so I don't burn out again like the whiny baby I am.

>>23294945
If you want a woman who shared hobbies with you than what you're really trying to find is an autistic man.

>>23294932
i'm god is an all-timer. you redeemed yourself.

now playing (/lit/ music)

>>23294969
nice listening with you anon but Its getting late for me, sya

now playing LIT music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=monJkVSJUQ0

>>23293951
----Solaria ---
9076
High Trust

Driving across remote corn country in a heavy old sedan
i found that its sweet spot is 90.

I live here now, and revel in the prevailing standard of space
And quiet courtesy, sleep dependable enough

For the highest waking, ordinary joy.

>>23294949
It's probably because of age of exposure combined with the state of technology at the time. If you hit the internet in the middle of your teenagehood and saw the place was filled with pedos, larpers (the irl kind), weird liberal hippies with a lot of ayn rand overlap from the 80s, and other teenagers with shitty music tastes, and aol's messanger would let all of them ping your ip, the internet seems like that time you found out what going beyond your tolerance for alcohol was like first, or that year you thought you were a vampire: a lot of effort for questionable results. A lot of the most reliable machines you could get your teenage hands on were reliable because rubbing the battery made it work, and apple was a fringe loony choice that hadn't made a phone, and external wired modems were a thing. Zoomers got iphones and ipads that generally worked in their teens with wireless internet having been a thing evrrywhere forever so they'll give up after plugging it in and out once, whereas late millenials are used to manually fusking their way through an unidexed archive between their mom picking up the phone.

>>23294050
Really liked it.
Not sure it belongs here but I made a triangle for the different types of feminine attractiveness. I think it's exhaustive i.e. any attractive woman could be charted somewhere on it. P-factor is the third dimension and denotes the 1-10 scale, this is for everything else.

>>23295032
I can kinda see what you're getting at. I remember screamers being really big almost to the end of the 00s, for example. That sort of shit really drilled into your head early on that online spaces demand caution and skepticism.

>>23295043
Or even think about asking your parents to put in their credit card information to Amazon in 2005 Vs 2015

>>23294863
To be honest I don't like Cervantes or Rabelais, but enjoy Moliere. He pretty much sticks to ridicule of management insofar as it's bad, and never seems to be at war with reality.

at first i was sad my lover left me, but now i realize how fortunate i was. now i am in my own company, complete solitude, and learning to love myself while escaping back into literature and the things i loved before him. i only grieve what we once had, and what could have been, but being booted from his life i now understand i was merely a distraction from his misery, and attachment is the fastest way to additional misery once they go.

>>23295097
How were you booted from his life

>>23293951
Thinking about spending a lot of money on a nice fly fishing rod and reel

>>23295105
he left me anon

>>23295114
How

>>23295118
i dont know if that is relevant

I don't like beautiful things. I like the beauty in things.

>>23295121
You reminded me of someone I knew once

>>23295129
oh, there is little chance i am said person. i no longer talk to people from here, and i dont speak to anyone in general really.

>>23295136
If you are her, I am happy you moved on

Jesus fucking christ. Finals and I have these two papers due. I hate papers. I like learning, but I hate papers. I like wine. Sangiovese and Chianti have been at the forefront for me, recently. 8-10 pages each, double spaced, 12 point font, Times New Roman. One paper is for sociology, the other is a creative writing class on my choice of rhetoric, grammar, or punctuation.
I'm going to try to get the creative writing done first; just need a creative way to communicate this. Wine provinces and punctuation? Something to do with Dionysus and loss of the subject-object verb-noun structure you fucking stickler for rules.
The sociology paper I need to do research; my thesis is going to be super-broad; basically: sociology of alcohol and drug use by occupation. I've literally never taken a sociology before - but I have anthropology, so I wanna think this is going to be easy, it's basically anthro with statistics. Tedious support of what anthro already knows (bitches). I'm going to use this as an avenue to investigate food worker substance abuse cause lord knows the two are synonymous. Maybe throw in blue-collar meth use, cigarettes, and cocaine to round it out.

>>23295141
i wouldnt say i have moved on anon, just let go of the hope i had and realized this person is happier alone. in doing so i have realized the importance of caring for myself and building upon things i neglected. but these words are sweet, though im doubtful im her!

>>23294966
That's not what I said. Photographing butterflies isn't my hobby. The point is to contrast an interesting girl with hobbies to a boring girl who thinks Boba tea is a hobby

>>23295150
I am sure that in his own way he - maybe I - will always miss you.

>>23295161
please dont delude yourself…there is no way i am the person you knew. this was incredibly recent for myself. i am so sorry for what you may be going through, if anything.

Silent and refreshing nights like this are meant to be spent with cute girls, not the internet.

Should I live to make my discontent known to society? Should I make them smell the springtime carnations

If I was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor I would probably fall down on my knees and thank God.

>>23295238
praying for this to happen to you

Hate being ugly. Hate it. Hate the way people talk and look at me. Hate being angry whenever I look in a mirror. Disgusting. Almost makes me understand the people who treat me poorly, I hate feeling like I cause discomfort just by being looked at.

>>23295262
Being attractive is like a cheat code, not gonna lie. People are both willing to give you a pass and help you out on so many things. With that said, you can absolutely still find ways to achieve success in life.

>>23295097
No matter how much I tell myself this type of stuff I can't help but feel extraordinary agony when I think on her too long.

>>23295262
Me too. I'm horrifically ugly. I don't blame any of the people that treated me poorly because I look like a zombie.

waiting for my tire rod to fall off and get me into a deadly accident

>>23295287
Did she leave you?

>>23295282
>People are both willing to give you a pass and help you out on so many things
feel like people just do this in general bruv

>>23295300
Yes. Not proud to admit it but I even begged her to come back a week after. Brutal reality check that was.

>>23295320
To a massive degree

>>23295262
I just hate being a person in general. Life goes on because it's considered immoral to euthanize ugly boring loners, not because there's any great value to be gained from keeping me around.

>>23295327
What she do? Use another man against you?

>>23295335
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Speaking personally as an unattractive person, I'm all for bulldozing us all into mass graves so the attractive people can inherit the earth. They'll never love us. They'll never have to pretend to love us. No more pity inviting the ugly girl. No more ugly dorks fading away into the shadow realm.

>>23295332
like?

>>23295354
Asking female classmates and coworkers I didn't know too well for rides to pick up drugs and home, for one example.

>>23295361
that's normal

I'm old and sad and lonely. My life is so fucking kino.

>>23293951
Don’t feel like starting another thread but what’s a good way to study legal theory as a layman?

I'm reading about Chinese Legalism.
>being smart is bad
>music is bad
>beauty is bad
>luxury is bad
>social mobility is bad
>kindness is bad
>being generous is bad
>love is bad
>old people are bad
>the only 2 jobs are farmer and soldier
>people are tools
>the state is good
>law is good
>tax is good
>slavery is good
However,
>everyone is forced into marriage and must have as many daughters as possible (having more than 1 son doubles you taxes)
Hmm... not so bad.

>>23295405
find what first year law students study

>>23295441
Got a few books wishlisted on this list

https://www.stu.edu/law/admissions/admitted-students/1l-information/suggested-reading-list/


Thanks

>>23295424
Music is good, legalists fucked up on that.

these long dayz are too short

>>23295458
you doing research or sum?

>anonymity lets people be their true selves they
>anons are bitter miserable assholes
>anons have terrible lives and are unsuccessful socially, romantically, and even some financially

Gee, we got a real mystery here

>>23294665
I have my own (fairly) unique reading taste, music taste, film taste. I develop my own opinions. I have my own thoughts and interests. I can talk about a wide range of topics at length (at least to myself in my head, I don't have anyone else to talk to). Things that aren't what Joanne was wearing on the bachelor last night or "omg did you hear the new Taylor Swift song. The lyrics are like sooooo good, I like had to get out a dictionary. She's a genius!". Yet I am an outcast freak. It is impossible for me to reconcile myself to the fact that I am inferior to the person you describe in everyone else's eyes. I must be the most vain and insufferable person who ever lived. The only solution to this situation that I can conceive of is suicide.

Rusty crampons clacked on the steel tracks. Eight men on the attack with rifles and daggers stashed in their jackets. With freezing rain in their eyes and shards of hard ice chipping under the rhythm of their fast and steady clip they came to a stop. The upper lip of the cave hung low like the eyelids of a drunk. The faint light of fire rose and dipped in a slow flicker to show the object of the hunt. A capped shoulder and thick fur thatched like an old village roof. Poor is the look of the men but their excitement grew with the louder howling of their dogs. With fastened grips on the rifles they ducked into the vestibule of the cave. The putrid smell of burned frogs and old pine logs of the destitute victims hung in the air with no good memory to save. First the stupid. Then the brave. Then the dogs. Then the yellow. Those by the back froze at the sound of crushed bones under each step. How much meat was paid to the beast that it all kept. Five people stolen. Five on the minds of the men whose hands and bodies shook under their coats with the loaded guns that they took. The stupid and brave crept deeper in their search. The gnashing of meat and bone echoed in the cavernous, bloody tomb of hollowed earth. The fire showed a dash of the ravenous beast at the feast of number five.

Should I continue?

>>23295424
>bugs have no soul
Nietzsche warned us about this

>>23294991
>>23294999
/lit/ music

>>23293951
There's hardly anything enjoyable as a rare contrast to threatening forecast that comes from a reliable source. Weather models said there were going to be thunderstorms, some of them severe, from 3PM to 9PM. But absolutely none of it came to pass, all sweetly quiet the whole time, pleasantly warm, mild, heavily overcast at times, but never even annoyingly windy. From the standpoint of temperature statistics in North America, April is the mirror of November, but let's be honest, weirdly less predictable.

>>23295600
i hope you find solace and some contentment with your own company some day soon anon. i tried to kill myself over a similar inferiority and lost the only person i had. then you realize it isnt so bad, being alone, but you also realize how stupid of a decision it is. it doesnt matter outside of the workplace and you can feign taylor swift fan esque traits there anyway if it means a secure job. either way you should nip that solution in the bud before your brain sees it as so attractive that you conjure it up as a means to escape any discomfort.

>>23295344
She recorded me begging like a bitch to come home and then sent it to several of our friends to make fun of me and emasculate me.

>>23295636
I cannot continue like this for decades more until I die of cancer or heart failure or something. There is no point. Sitting alone inside is untenable and every outing, without fail, is immensely painful and brutally humiliating. The vast majority of other people, seemingly 'normal' people, inherently have something I don't and everyone else can see it but me. No amount of reading or exercising or playing video games or listening to music or drinking alcohol can sufficiently distract me from my sub-humanity. It only seems to get worse as the years go by. I used to not care at all.

>>23295348
This but sincerely and unironically. Eugenics now.

>>23295600
Skill issue

>>23295600
>The only solution to this situation that I can conceive of is suicide.
Not really. There's a whole lotta freakshow out there to enjoy and connect with, as you well know. As for myself, most of the worst I've suffered in life is prolonged boredom and frustration, never anything terrible as clinical depression, schizophrenia, dire poverty in some authoritarian hellhole, domestic violence, and so-forth You'll be alright, if not the life of parties.

>>23295517
Nah just an autodidact using it as a springboard for personal theories of mine

I want to start an Islamic cult. Muslims are the most gullible people on the planet, I want my ride on that gravy train.

>>23295687
Beyond /lit/ I don't see anyone like this at all. I assume they are all hiding in their bedrooms like I do much of the time. Any attempt to tease out something beyond the most mundane crap has failed in every case but one. Sometimes a new coworker or classmate will attempt to talk to me before they make the inevitable realisation that there is something wrong with me. Not once have I EVER met anyone who reads anything. Maybe they're embarrassed. I'm not exactly comfortable saying I mainly read old travelogues and Russian realist novels, I don't want to be seen as pompous and pretentious. But I throw it out there and never receive anything back. Once I talked to an immigrant at university about the history of his country and he was very enthused about it. That was the one time in real life I didn't feel like a freak for being myself. I never saw him again after that. Posting on 4chan is not a valid substitute for normal human contact. This is not alright.

>>23294999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TegGqCNF3LQ&list=PLr0MsaDpKsY8Kvtts9mI6h98S14u7Q807&index=37

>>23294999
https://youtu.be/BW5L5fviP4M?si=je8U0MshCDC1_MUx

One of you is probably a fan of this, can you give me a quick rundown on what it's about? I had a friend in high school who listened to it but I didn't care to ask back then.

Anyone else get extremely angry when they see people online use AI to analyze documents, in my case specifically a 40 page government report? Not only was the 'analysis' useless, can't these fuckers read? And then I even saw another user utilize AI to formulate hypothetical questions for further inquiries from the report which was even worse. What is wrong with people? The worse part of all is these people are so maddeningly stupid that they actually think their posts of AI-slop are actually contributing something to the community and the discussion, so they aren't even capable of reading and parsing the slop!

God-fucking-damnit man, nothing gets me riled up anymore really but this one had me shouting at the screen.

I'm making a lot of mistakes lately. Kind of exhausting to be always doing everything wrong.

I don't understand why death induces so much anxiety on people minds to the point of making them act in such inauthentic life, if anything death is liberating. Knowing that no matter what all your desires and pains will stop at one point. Only those who overcame the fear of death truly lived

To succeed I must shill but to shill means to be critiqued and my poor widdle ego can't handle that

How long do you think until they strap a gun to this thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9EM5_VFlt8

>>23295807
Ever heard of efficiency?

>>23293989
This is bullshit, but funny.

>>23295872
I could somewhat understand that except I read the actual full report and the AI-slop analysis was awful. Hell, even without reading it you could tell how bad the generated output was by how vague and discursive it was.

No matter how much I disbelieve in the supernatural and notions of God, I cannot help but be utterly disgusted and enraged by the average "atheist" and science """believer""". The smug and ironic superiority they routinely laude over those poor misinformed religious nuts despite being equally uninformed on topics they claim to hold dear. It annoys me so deeply as to make me wish I were a christcuck purely out of contrarian spite.

>>23295841
The thought of my consciousness being utterly obliterated into nothing is spooky, nothing can change that. I live with it as best I can but it is isn't fun.

>>23295897
What I always tell myself is, even with a purely physicalist worldview, if the machinations of the universe created whatever systems and processes which are or enable your consciousness, surely it can and even will happen again.

>>23295730
I met a guy by chance, in of all places in a car shop waiting room, who knew rather a lot of Anglo-American and English Romantic poetry by memory. Obviously not an academic, nervous, shy, eccentric, and intense closeup, he was anything but pretentious. Not sure how I managed to draw him out into (a rather long) conversation, but one thing about him that remember well is that he had little feeling for, or knowledge of, instrumental music--something I have almost too much of for my own good. Not sure why he had it there, but he even had a weird kind of bike the like of which I've never seen before or since, which he demonstrated for me in the parking lot. I liked him rather a lot, but let it go at that. Now that I think about I wonder what he'd make of me laughing out loud while driving home at night, while these lines from Stevens's Someone Puts A Pineapple together come to mind yet again:

The small luxuriations that portend
Universal delusions of universal grandeurs,

A purple southern mountain bisqued
With the molten mixings of related things.

>>23295908
How would you ever know he was into romantic poetry? How did this conversation begin exactly?

a 19 yo girl said I look like this sound personified. ignored her at the time but now I'm living it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVuBw7TYvHg

had a girl on my room all wet and I couldn't get it up

Condoms for sale, never worn. Truly the saddest

>>23296011
one of my friends returned a box of condoms once

>>23296011
Are you taking anti-depressants? My brother told me he couldn't get it up when he was on certain ones.

>>23295994
Transitions from one subject to another can happen pretty fast in conversation. As for how it began, in the usual way, with a casual throwaway aside about something in the immediate surroundings. In his case I probably started it, but more often than not others initiate.

>>23295807
Kekekeke, you have no idea how much of the world used run on competent secretaries making people getting paid more than them not look like idiots.
>>23296011
>Truly the saddest
Good thing you have wet grill to cuddle

>>23293951
I wish I could restart my life or, or even better, not have been born at all.

>>23295348
I want this too but just so pretty people have to suffer like that society of Alphas and Betas who killed each other off in Brave New World.

>>23295600
I am probably am too but the thing is, I don’t care.

>>23296198
Maybe I'm just horrifically ugly. It is extremely rare for anyone to try and initiate a conversation with me.

>>23296309
You might just have fuck off energy.

I was meeting my mum and sister in the city once and when I walked up to them my mum started laughing, she told me that she told my sister to look out for "the most miserable looking person" and she'll find me. I don't take offence to this, I laughed at it.

>>23293961
Nah I kept going. Besides people generally suck.

>>23296341
Possibly. I have no idea how to fix this. Smile more, maybe?

>>23296348
Should've called her a roastie

>>23296359
Idk, I just use mine to get extra personal space in free seating events

>>23294991
The second subject of the “Great”’s first movement just blows my mind every time. How did Schubert shit out the most enchanting melodies over and over again? His early death really is one of the greatest tragedies culture has had to endure

Dreamed last night I got my ex girlfriend pregnant and she'd hid it from me for 8 months. I wish it were true.

I feel far too passive in my life at the moment. Having worked full time now for 2 years I feel like my life hasn't changed at all. If I keep like this it may never change again. I need to have a long think about the type of person I want to be.

>>23293951
I say unto thee: Be the plesiosaur in the ancient lake, barrel rolling free, and breaking surface to see the ancient sky.

I jerked off today but my cum wasn't normal. Normally, like most of us, it shoots out of the end of my cock, however today, it webbed all over the head of my cock. I don't know why it did that, it was so weird, it was like I had symbiote cum.

>>23296479
The coom monster is taking over. You're done for.

>>23296479

Do you think it’s possible to be respected as a classicist without a PhD today?

It's borderline criminal how I'm making money shitposting on 4chan all day.
Reading about sports, gaming, political articles etc.
This has been going on for about 2 months now. lol

>>23296235
still happens. i'm a low-paid man-secretary and that is basically how it's going. cannot wait to quit this stupid job. another year of this shit until i finish my masters.

>>23296618
That masters is gonna be lit dawg

>>23296620
i might quit early cuz the department is collapsing. these guys really don't know what they're doing.

>>23296492
pretty huge dick?

i finished the corrections. it was good, but it didn't have any of the impact of stoner even though it had many similarities.

>>23296624
Large penises are for barbarians.

I’ve been noticing something interesting happening in media and publishing. It seems like the mainly online platforms are becoming something like “low” content platforms while traditional platforms are becoming “high” content platforms with “high” platform refugees making a small bridge. That’s interesting because for the last 20 years everyone talked about how online alternative media and publishing was supplanting traditional media. In reality, what’s happened is that it’s supplanted some traditional media, while a small group of traditional media separated from the crowd even further and became sort of an “elite” or “esoteric” arena in the industry. This is really glaring in publishing because it’s pretty obvious now that you can publish journalism on Substack or self-publish fiction on Amazon, but these still carry less prestige than publishing in The Atlantic or Penguin Random House and it seems like that’s only going to become more stark.

Today is dis day so I bought myself Varg's two newest books in his self biographical series.

I'm sick of being poor but I don't want to work in fast food.

I’m desperate to find some sort of ethical philosophy I can cling to but the only choices available to us it seems are a Christianity I don’t sincerely believe in and communist heresy.

>>23294999
nice trips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_YgQEGWT70

I saw an Instagram reel of some guy going around LSU and asking students "What do you wish you could experience but never will" or something very similar and in the video he interviewed this black chick who said she wanted to see a tornado in real-time, and oh my god was she hot. Not only was she stunning, she sounded weird and quirky which is my type of woman. I wish I knew her Instagram. I wouldn't have a chance because she's American and I'm Australian but still.

Right-wingers are selfish and evil. I cannot associate with them.

But I wouldn't fare well in a leftist utopia either. I mean, if everyone was equal in terms of opportunities, wealth and security, genetics would then start playing an even stronger role than it already does. And I'm an ugly duckling so I wouldn't fare well in such an environment either.

>>23296667
Christianity without the supernatural bullshit is a pretty good starting point.
Communism is outdated, but there are some good ideas there.
You don't need to buy into something wholesale. Recognize the good ideas and create your own coherent moral framework.

A vast apparatus of terror is being erected around us, the process has become largely automated and unnoticeable, life just keeps getting pushed towards being more fearful and unbearable by an invisible hand.

>>23293972
Actually, I once read an article about the ideal IQ of a scientist and it basically said something to this effect.
You need a decently above average IQ.
But at a certain point, when your IQ is too high, you start getting bored with every task and every problem, which if you want to do science, is a real hurdle, because often you are stuck doing very tedious mental work for years.
So yeah... Apparently the highest IQ people tend to live a simple middle class life. They end up playing with puzzles more than anything.

>>23293999
I have kissed women, haven't had sex yet, but I have never felt like a woman truly loved me. It was always a case of me being too nice and them enjoying my attention cause they are bored or scared of starting something serious with somebody they actually fancy.
I'm 31... so yeah.

Been trying to learn Latin and I just can't fucking seem to memorize the word for kiss. Every single time I see it I just look on in bafflement, and have to glimpse at my dictionary. It's been like this since day one. What kind of autism is this? It's the only fucking word I can't memorize.

>>23296807
If it's the only word you can't memorize and you know every other word then when you look at it shouldn't you be able to know what it is because it's none of the other words that you know?

>>23296807
I can't forget it because vivamus atque amemus mea lesbia is drilled so deep into my brain by school i remember it better than my phone number at the time

I made a major career mistake about 5 years ago and I’ve been coping with that misstep ever since.

I envy Americans. I wish it was a social norm here in Germany to start conversations with strangers.

I travel a lot and often end up spending prolonged amounts of times in cities with no connections. Because of this I have no social life. I only interact with my work colleagues and my family.

People here in Germany tend to be so insular. Like even if you go to a night club, people come in groups and they dance in a closed circle. The idea of mingling with strangers seems absent from the German psyche. Stranger danger and what not. It's so tiring.

Cold lonely exotic owls.
The time tails and trips in trowels.
I think back to my youth and all the wasted time.
And I come back to the present thinking I have more than I once had.

>>23296820
Elaborate.
But I think that's just how life goes. I could say the same about myself. Every career decision I took has reverberated for the rest of my life.

I'm never going to even think about having kids unless I'm a multimillionaire, it would be irresponsible of me otherwise. I wouldn't let my kid(s) become like other rich kids either because I know how to be humble because I've been poor for my entire life. I would force them to do chores and I would make them get jobs and I would make them pay for their own first car etc.

>>23296826
Just took the wrong job in the wrong place, totally derailed the trajectory I was on. Not terrible in itself, or it wouldn’t have been if I had taken certain steps but I didn’t and in retrospect it’s been a massive error. I think I would feel better about it if I had been somewhere else, but it was actually a job back in my hometown so it feels even more like a step back. Wanna share your story?

>>23293951
Workplace nepotism should be banned

The Southwest would be better if all the cities weren’t Spanish named. “Boston” is so much more kino than “San Diego”.

The only American city I know is Seattle and the only state I know is Ohio. No, I will not learn more, no matter who asks me to.

>>23296827
This take is so selfish. Oh me, me, me. I won’t feel good about this. I’m so important. Yeah, I’m talking about my kids who don’t give a fuck about my net worth, but it’s all about me, me, me and how I feel.

It’s such a pussy take too. Asceticism was a cultural virtue once, and that includes poverty. Some of the most important people in the society abandoned everything, all their wealth, all their luxury to take strict vows of poverty. But you are are so soft, so domesticated, that you can’t even imagine life continuing if it’s not rich and comfortable. It’s unironically pathetic.

>>23296854
I do not care.

I listened yo the former chancellor of St. John’s college explain why they chose Austin, Texas to found the University of Austin, that college affiliated with Jordan Peterson and the like. I think this idealization of Austin, Texas this particular subculture of people is so cringe. I’be been to Austin. It’s alright, but this like veneration of techie startup culture, Twitter-as-free-speech and podcasters is so cringey I can’t stand it.

I’ve wasted so much time. It’s money. It’s always been money holding me back. I keep putting things off and putting things off to save money, and at the end of every year I still don’t have enough money.

If I could do things over again, I would run for office as soon as I graduated from college. It’s actually insanely easy to run at a local level and not particularly difficult at a state level. You don’t even need money unless you’re running for state executive or congress.

>>23296827
Kids don't care if you're a multimillionaire.
What exactly is irresponsible? They don't have all the newest gadgets?
What exactly do you needs those millions for?

>>23296906
>Kids don't care if you're a multimillionaire.
Correct, but having that sort of money would ensure that my kids would never have to struggle or go without like I did.

>>23296911
Children who don't struggle are the fucking worst.
It doesn't have to be extreme, but having to work a few years to pay for something like a home or your college is nothing bad.
And go without what? Unless it's food and a place to grow up in you're not missing out on a whole lot.

>>23296914
>but having to work a few years to pay for something like a home or your college is nothing bad.
I did say in another reply that I would make them get a job and work for their own shit.
>And go without what? Unless it's food and a place to grow up in you're not missing out on a whole lot.
It would be just pretty much that. I had to go without food a lot as a kid and it's not fun.

For the purposes of guerrilla warfare, Mao prescribes squads of 9 to 11 men each organized into platoons of 30 and companies of about 100 each. These companies are the building block that form the battalions, regiments, and divisions of a guerrilla force.

These companies are independent units, in the sense that they are raised independently from the native population against the occupying state for an insurgency or revolution. A guerrilla fighter can even be a student or a farmer armed and organized into an independent unit against the state.

Without a large, organized, and unified national anti-government front, war against the state is not possible.

>>23294072
I seriously can't imagine anything more pathetic than using your girlfriend as the emotional tampon

>>23296917
You don't need to be a multimillionaire to provide food for your children.

>>23296921
A lot of these young men are spiritual women.
No, you don't get to bawl your eyes out to your gf, it gives them the ick.

Alright fuck this. I will read 20 books this year. I'm tired of being stupid and unintellectual. I also hope I can fix my shitty attention span.

>>23296922
I don't but it would allow me to give them a better quality of life. Having millions opens basically any door.
>Need urgent medical care?
Good thing I have my millions.
>Want to send my kids to the best schools?
Good thing I have my millions.
>Want to be able to own a nice home so that my kids aren't constantly getting uprooted?
Good thing I have my millions.

It would just be a lot better than if I was a blue-collar worker who had to check my bank account to see if I could afford bread and milk this week. Can a child live a good life if they are constantly being uprooted and they don't have a consistent friend group? Yeah, sure, but they'll have a better life if they don't have to experience those things. Everybody wants the best for their children and I could guarantee that I could provide the best for them if money was no object. And I'm not saying that blue-collar workers can't provide good lives for their kids, of course they can, but it's never gonna be as good of a life than if they had millions.

>>23296946
Yeah, being a millionaire makes life easy I don't think anyone disputes that.
The thing that's wrong is the idea that:
>blue-collar worker who had to check my bank account to see if I could afford bread and milk this week
Or the idea that you have to move every couple years (why?)

There's a space between living in a ghetto not being able to afford food and having to go from apartment to apartment and being a multimillionaire.

I think the idea that you need to make millions to not have your children have a shit upbringing is insane. In that case almost no one should have been having kids before 1950's. Life sucked in comparison to now.

>>23296946
Your kid's going to sus out your findom fantasies of buying your way to happiness

>>23296958
>I think the idea that you need to make millions to not have your children have a shit upbringing is insane.
I guess you didn't read my whole reply.

>>23296958
Anon thinks lack of money is why his life turned out shit, and would be blaming some external force for it even he had billions. We shouldn't be encouraging someone incapable of personal responsibility to have kids. They'd also be an external force and therefore more to blame than him, which wouldn't be great for them even if it did get them private tutoring.

>>23296831
I needed to go abroad for career purposes and I chose one country over another and it turned out to be a really bad choice.

>>23296928
>No, you don't get to bawl your eyes out to your gf, it gives them the ick.

True, but is there anything that doesn't give the young princesses of today the ick? You basically have to hide your true self from them at all times.

>>23296914
If you bring kids in this world only for them to have to struggle through life, you are basically creating serfs for the rich. Congrats I guess. They might even end up being soldiers for rich and powerful.

>>23296967
I did. So your point isn't even that children of non-millionaires have a shit upbringing. Just that because it's less good than if they were brought up in millionaire households is reason enough not to have children?
>>23296977
>some struggle = being a serf
Stop being a clown. not a serious argument

>>23296985
You know what? The boomers who had children also believed that their children would enjoy the same amount of material wealth as they did back then.
And yet, here we are today.
Struggling to afford housing and food.

>>23293961
You gonna stop once you realize you make zero impact on the world, or changing someones mind as a matter of fact. Destiny is a perfect example, a human carcass spitting poison all around lol. Everyone he "debated" with seems to have been better off in the long run like johntron

>>23296985
>Just that because it's less good than if they were brought up in millionaire households is reason enough not to have children?
For me, yes. I want the best life possible for my children if I ever have any and I believe that that can only be achieved through extreme wealth. I'm not saying other people shouldn't have children if they're not millionaires, I'm just holding myself to a higher standard.

>>23296999
And?
Would you rather not have been born?
Housing is fucked but no one is going hungry in the west, not even close.

>>23297003
How old are you?
I'd like you to post again after you failed to make millions and end up ACK-ing yourself not having achieved anything.

>>23297005
>Would you rather not have been born?

I mean, it wouldn't bother me if I hadn't.
If I had be born even more disadvantaged than I currently am I would definitely rather not exist.

I'm at work and I feel like I'm gonna start crying any second

>>23297014
>gonna start crying any second
why?

>>23297014
Why?

>>23297011
Figures. The average westoid. Only happy when given wealth (not earn it himself) and if not he'd rather not exist.

>>23297007
>I'd like you to post again after you failed to make millions and end up ACK-ing yourself not having achieved anything.
I will end up failing to make millions, I know that, I'm not stupid.

>>23297018

What the fuck do you know about my life?
I guarantee you that if you were in my place you'd have roped a long time ago.

>>23297031
My family grew up poor and we're only speaking of the financial aspect.
I would not 'rope myself' because I had less money.

I'm going bear hunting. would you kill a bear?

>>23297076
I think I would.
Their fur can be used for some cool things as well.

>>23297076
I'd love to eat a bear one day. Wouldn't mind even if it was raw, actually, so long as there's no hair.

My OCD prefers Europe’s borders to North America’s borders. The imperial buck obviously stops at the Urals, the Black Sea, the Mediterranean, and the Atlantic. The only odd man out is Iceland. Europe is a peninsula and I like that.

>>23297126
You know what, I bet I could eat a whole bear by myself right now. Just need some money and somebody to prepare it for me.

>>23297076
I don't have much sympathy for bears. Probably.
Which bears do you target?
Males? Females? Old? Young?
What do you harvest from them?

>>23297126
It's not good. Greasy and stinky, stringy texture, kind of what I imagine a dog might taste like.

I am beyond all reform.

The reason mass murder is such an attractive option is that it voices discontent. It actualizes one's suffering and makes it impossible to avoid some sort of response, even if that response is an automatic and quickly forgotten swatting of a mosquito. Of course, one needn't make others suffer for one's own problems; Only a terrible person would do such a thing. But of course, I am already regarded as worthless scum. Society already hates me. Society vilifies people like me. I vilify myself. At no point is my legitimacy as a human being ever considered, neither by society nor myself.

It follows that I should have no problem killing. I have minor grievances. For example, when I was 18 and begged to stay in the psych facility because I felt I was still suicidal, they suspected I just wanted attention- so I was instead released to the place I got sexually assaulted at. I never let myself be humiliated in the same way, but it is impossible to predict the manners in which you may be attacked when you are still naïve. I was beaten and abused in psych facilities, even as an adult. I witnessed other patients being abused, including one elderly stroke victim that had intense ulceration and other issues due to neglect and abuse. I could always make excuses for myself. "I'm a piece of shit, I deserve it, I hate myself, you know it's good that everyone hates me..." but when I saw other people being abused so readily, I could not think of any excuse. I grew to hate society.

It is not uncommon at all to have one's hatred of society checked only by one's hatred of the self.
In minecraft, obviously. Do I successfully impart the feeling of unhinged incel?

>>23296921
Who else are you supposed to use? You'd think the one person that would surely be able to provide emotional support and intimacy would be your romantic partner, right? Otherwise what's the point of even having one, might as well just jerk off into a tissue lol

>>23297003
>I want the best life possible for my children if I ever have any and I believe that that can only be achieved through extreme wealth
At what point do you think you'd have enough money? "The best life possible" is a receding horizon. It could always be better.

>>23297157
>You'd think the one person that would surely be able to provide emotional support and intimacy would be your romantic partner, right?

Nah. That's your parents or siblings. Women will just get the ICK and drop you.

When will I accept that doing things "right" was never in the cards for me? All these plans have never led to anything, so why do I think I need to plan shit before acting?

Do you think I'd get cancelled if I ever became famous and people found out aboutautistic fanfic and porn images I made about a real life famous person? Yesthey are fairly creepy and deranged

>>23297137
I want the skull for my bookshelf.

>>23297157
You have a wife to have children with. Not to dump your trauma and cry to.
Speaking of trauma or whatever is one thing, can be done. But to then weep like a pathetic baby is a guaranteed way to make her look for a real man.

>>23295841
I am not afraid of death, but of having to live yet another day.

>>23297179
Wow you couldn't have named a less noble use.

>>23297180
It's not his fault for thinking like that. Society (womankind) lies so much about this topic.

>>23297190
I know it's not noble, but it's the truth.

>>23297196
The skull looks ugly anyway. They are basically giant rats. If you taxidermy the whole head it might look decent at least.

>>23297166
Siblings have their own lives and bitching to your mom seems even less socially acceptable. Only a therapist or a discrete hooker can provide this service.

>>23297180
Sounds like having a gf/wife is basically all downside with no upside these days. Even if you want kids, they'll be used against you sooner or later once your terminator wife sees you tear up while cutting onions.

Wouldn't the skull or head of a deer or something look a lot better?

>>23297200
>Siblings have their own lives and bitching to your mom seems even less socially acceptable

Your mom is the only one who won't judge you for anything you tell her.
IDGAF what is acceptable according to zoomers.

A therapist? You want to pay a stranger to pretend he cares? Lol.

>>23297200
No, there are upsides.
And she will not 'terminate' you for getting teary eyed cutting onions.
What does ick her out is you bawling like a little child because you lost your job or a kid was mean to you growing up.
Woman or man, they think that's pathetic and uncomfortable to see. You're a man, compose yourself.

>>23297198
really I don't even want to go, but I was invited by one of my only friends. I don't want to kill a bear. I don't like hunting. but I understand it's a natural thing. it's not bad. I have a tag. Bears need to die like everything else. I want the skull as an object to meditate on.

>>23297210
What if I stub my toe on the coffee table and I kinda want her to kiss it so it stops being ouchie? Is that a big turn off or not?

>>23297157
A gf isn't a personal therapist you dumb ass. Be a man and not a crybaby

>>23297174
HELLO
ANYONE

>>23297208
>Your mom is the only one who won't judge you for anything you tell her
Unfortunately this is not true for everyone

And the point of therapy isn't talking to someone who cares

>>23297223
Yeah, I know. A gf is a cumdumpster that spends all your money and scans for weaknesses and compares you to other guys to jump ship.

>>23297200
>women don't want to be replacement mommy
>THE WEST HAS FALLEN, BILLIONS MUST DIE

>>23297231
Holy shit go outside you fucking loser

I have a super comfy part time job. I get paid for hour shifts but only really work two hours. The job is literally just reading with children. 20 bucks an hour.

>>23297180
Toxic masculinity on display here. Sad.

>>23297234
>You want a loving relationship with someone that cares about you and provides intimacy? Ugh, that's not what le wuhman is for loser!!

>>23297221
Unless she's into feet you can only joke about that
>>23297253
Hi homo

>>23297215
Don't worry. Hunting is 99.99% just walking and sitting in silence. You don't have to actually shoot any guns and you probably won't get to anyway.

It was just a literary post, retarded feds. I like writing edgy fiction etc.

>>23297256
Something went wrong with your upbringing. Crying about your feelings to a full time mommy therapist is not a healthy or loving relationship. It's this weird cluster B, borderline personality codependency.

>>23297256
Women seek a strong man, not a weeping baby
>waaaaah I grew up poor
>waaaaaah I got bullied 20 years ago
Suck it up.
Tell it with a straight face and try not to cry, baby

>>23293951
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>>23297266
>Expressing your feelings is mental illness!!!

>>23297267
Who cares what women want? Sounds like you're the weak man trying to please them at every point. I'll cry if I want bitch and if you can't provide some minimum emotional support then I'll get a better wife.

>>23297273
Being a crybaby freak who uses women as replacement mommy is in fact a mental illness. That is not a healthy or normal expression or experience of emotions. A gf or wife is a partner, not a crutch. It's evident you don't have any females in your life

>>23297270
that was quick

>>23297273
>I'll cry if I want bitch and if you can't provide some minimum emotional support then I'll get a better wife.
You're not getting any wife lmao

I really want to go live in Europe for a while, but my job says I have to stay in the United States for tax reasons.

> trucks are too expensive
> SUVs are too expensive
> (fun) cars are too expensive
Guess I’ll buy a motorcycle