/lit/ - Literature

>>23292642
Not /lit/ but seeing this tranny janny academic reminded of this Sorel excerpt.

>>23292660
>petty nobility
kek exactly what these worms are

>>23292642
there was maybe 3 trans people in Europe in 1940.
Troons try not to claim the ultimate victim position challenge (impossible)

>>23292660
>in the speeches of democratic orators
Who's going to show this dumbass speeches from Fascist, Socialist, and Communist governments? It sounds the same everywhere. It works the same everywhere. It's all shit.

>>23292706
He was writing this before any of those things existed.

>>23292642
>illegal or harmful speech
how did orwell predict this?

>>23292642
Good! I am sick of this idiot lady and her kiddie books shitting up this board. I do not care her opinion on anything, pro or anti-trans. Get a life. I truly hope she dies in prison and not because of anything anti-trans but just for being a fucking kiddy book writer who ruined literature.

>>23292735
"Orwell predicted this" and "It's 1984!" are the most overused pseudo-intellectual lines ever. Usually by people who've never read his work.

>>23292743
>kiddy book writer who ruined literature.
Hemingway did more damage to literature than her.

>>23292760
CS Lewis is worse.

>>23292744
Sounds like troon cope. There are no bigger pseuds than faggots that are so delusional enough to think they will ever be a real woman.

>>23292762
Lewis wasn't that influential. Hemingway ruined English prose forever.

>>23292786
Why did you immediately pivot to trannies? Weird.

>>23292796
>Thread is about some mentally ill man pretend to be a woman seething at some author who writes childrens books
>REEEEEEEEE WHY WOULD YOU BRING UP TRANNIES!!
Btw allow me to remind you again that you will never ever be a real woman and to dilate.

>>23292797
Go back to /pol/ dude; you stick out like a sore thumb here.

>Go back to /pol/ dude you stick out like a sore thumb here.

Just when I thought she couldn’t get more based.

>portrays Jews as ugly goblins
>says men can't be women
>denies the holocaust
kek Joan is on a roll

>>23292801
NTA. No you.

But I thought based Elon made it a free speech platform?

>>23292706
>t. petty democracy janny

>>23292856
If you're a Jew or a zionist, yea. Everyone else is fair game for the authorities.

Publicly advertising how easy it is to bully people with these kinds of accusations seems like a bad move.

>>23292642
But Rowling doesn't live in the European Union.

>>23292856
not in cucked europe with its trigger happy law mayhem, these faggots have made legislation into a hobby, they are known for coming up with laws for everything very fast.

>>23292876
Based. Anything that hurts him is good.

The Nazis didn’t kill them for being trans, they killed them for being fags and/or Jews

>>23292892
> didn’t kill them for being trans,they killed them for being fags
What the fuck is this shit and why havent killed urself yet for writing this contradiction.

>>23292892
>they killed them for being fags and/or Jews
lets be honest here, what country, kingdom, or principality hasn't executed fags and jews?

I’m going to put aside memes and shitflinging for a minute here:

How - exactly - did she get here? Regardless of anyone’s opinions on her opinions (or lack thereof), what kind of ideological pipeline leads someone from milquetoast feminist to typical progressive liberalism to pro-gay advocacy to anti-trans advocacy to holocaust denial? And what compels a person to make this trajectory as public as she has, to the point it’s her entire personality and she talks about it endlessly?

>>23292892
Autogynephiles love hiding behind the suffering of homosexuals.

>>23292892
Most of them? Jews especially were rarely straight up killed. They were usually just exiled. People really overestimate how violent societies were a few centuries ago. The 17th to early 20th centuries were way more violent on average than most of the centuries before.

>>23292950
To be fair they all deserved it.

>>23292797
Going to second that other anon's post; you post like a teenager and your shit's all retarded, >>>/pol/ (or >>>/b/ if you want)

>>23292642
Proof that the whole tranny agenda is entirely JEWISH in origin, and Israel is making BILLIONS selling us the hormones used to mutilate the children being brainwashed:
https://archive.vn/13XGy

You'd think a writer would find a way to portray her thoughts using better delivery systems like writing books that force us to think. Squabbling with nobodies on twitter is unbecoming of her stature and betrays her intelligence, but women are delusional aren't they, just like they believe feminism is a plus on society, they think exchanging words online with trannies will change the world.

>Appending trans shit to the Holocaust so you can feel like even more of a victim

These people say free Palestine then talk about the plight of the jew

>>23292973
Im sorry troon but nobody is going to believe your samefag im gonna have to tell you to fuck off to >>>/lgbt/ thats the containment we have for mentally unwell degenerates on this forum. Im also gonna have to tell you to dilate like i told you MAN. Filth who cannot tolerate others accurate assessment of other peoples character has no place on /lit/ not too mention their opinion. Like i said You will never ever be a real woman no matter how hard you try.

Does Rowling think she's an American or something? The UK has no constitutional right to free speech, so it's only a matter of time before she gets fucked over. Her money and fame are the only things that's been protecting her. She'd already be in prison if she were a prole.

>>23292704
yeah... in 1940...

look up trans people in berlin during the weimar era you absolute mong.

>>23292984
>one group was targeted so no other group was targeted
sure anon, i bet the nazis were so kind to the gays and the disabled.

>caring about genocide of the jews (and gays and transes and the disabled) means you cannot care about genocide of palestinians because it's done by jews?
When trans people genocide subhuman 4chan retards, I will fight for your rights anon, but for now, trans rights it is.

>>23292987
>>>/pol/

but /pol/ told me that weimar jews literally invented trannies so which one is it???

>>23292978
cool fanfic bro, but trans people have existed for as long as humans have. Jews have nothing to do with it.

>>23293028
The Holocaust didn't happen
during that period

>>23293052
the trans people killed in the holocaust can be found during that period... are you being dishonest or are you just dense?

>>23293051
scat fetishists have too but you wouldn't want to encourage teenagers to play with their shit would you? same thing

>>23293049
They literally did.

>>23293062
yes anon, because living life as you are is playing with your shit. why are you living as you are? do you also play with your shit? either kys or be someone else pls. and stop playing with your shit.

>saying one group wasn't targeted means you "deny" the entire event

Hm?

>>23293042
>>>/lgbt/

>>23293070
yes, denying something is denying something.

you are a holocaust denier if you say 2 million jews died instead of 8 million. minimizing the event, pretending it wasn't as bad, pretending it was caused because of thiings it wasn't caused by, etc etc, is denial.

own your position or change your position. don't be a coward.

>>23293068
I do not play with my shit, and I don't get thrills dressing like a woman or dicking around with my endocrine system.

You'll never convince me it's not a sexual fetish.

Trans should just own it instead of acting like its 'just normal lol' to be a tall wide-shouldered strange-o in a dress and make-up fooling nobody.

>>23293051
no they didnt. its literally an ideological convention.

>>23293071
no.

>>23293076
>You'll never convince me
Stay unconvinced and watch the world move on ahead without you. no skin off my back.

>>23293078
lmao even normies know about the trans roman empress anon. i thought this was a place for smart people.

When's she gonna make her eventual run for politics under the Tories?

>>23293081
Pendulum is already swinging back my way. But I suppose it's true that you'll see transwomen out and about.

I'm friendly with the unfortunate weirdos humiliating themselves in public, mostly autistic, shy men in their 20s.

But yeah - transwomen, peepers, cuckolds, foot fetishists, masturbation addicts, exhibitionists, dysphorics of many types - they're all subaltern oddballs.

Prevalence these days isn't so much jews, as a mix of endocrine disruptors in the environment (plastics, processed foods, pharm waste in the water) and the LGB cynically piggybacking on Americans becoming soft agender mutants from all the chemicals.

>>23293097
cope.

>>23292642
Mentally ill retards get so mad at a feminist that wrote some satanic books decades ago because she thinks... there's only two genders

>>23293103
With what? The decadence and degeneracy of public life in my shitty declining empire?

I guess that's true: I cope by making money, and occasionally talking shit on an imageboard for chinese lantern puppets.

>>23293096
She'd get her head dunked in milk by trannies any time she goes into public.

>>23293086
you mean the mystery cult sun god schizo?

If you actually read historical texts its pretty obvious that the ideas underlying transgenderism are mostly postmodernist in character and dont fall well on modern and premodern stuff, unless with extreme cherrypicking.

>>23292642
The tweet, because apparently OP is a retarded tranny xirself and doesn't know how to run a thread.

Well /lit/?

>>23293133
>>23292642
>denying that trans people were persecuted
>"were the first victims"
You know what? She deserved. She feed the monster that is now eating her. She literally created one of the most Mac slop piece of literature ever and supported progressive causes until it started affecting her. She wouldn't bet a eye if these dirty tactics were used on her opponents.

>>23293151
>the guy who got caught drawing toddler hentai

>>23293180
Nah, nobody deserves bad things when they're doing things I like, the only deserve them for doing things I don't like.

>>23293096
>under the Tories?
Isnt she Scottish? If anything she should take over the already faggy SNP. It wouldnt even be hard to do that considering what a mess they are today.

>>23292704
Trans people existed throughout all of human history but they were repressing their identities all along

>>23293396
>Mentally ill people existed throughout all of human history
We already knew that. What else?

>>23293396
Trannyism didn't exist until jews invented it.

>>23293081
>watch the world move on ahead without you
IT'S CURRENT YEAR

>>23293081
>watch the world move on
but you don't want it to move on. trannies become trannies chiefly in order to experience persecution, that's why all your activism is designed to aggravate people in ways small (pronouns, freakish appearance) and big (messing around with kids). you will keep fanning the hatred normal people feel towards you as long as you can, and in a hypothetical world of perfect trans acceptance you would be forced to become a "map" or whatever, to keep getting that thrill. you might be too stupid to even know it yourself, but the goal was always victimhood.

>>23292642
/lit/ - Twitter users and ecelebs that just so happen to have written a book (the fact that they've written a book is totally irrelevant to the thread)

>>23292642
It's funny how "being persecuted by the Nazis" counts as instant validation in the minds of these poeple.
>"Oh no we can't say that trannies were persecuted by the Nazis, for then it would follow they are good!"

>>23292642
>trannies now want a piece of the holocaust pie
lmao these people, I swear.

>EU law against Holocaust denial
So in the EU it's legal to say the most horrible blasphemies against Our Lord Jesus Christ but if you think that maybe the victors lied or exaggerated the crimes of their enemy in a brutal war then you're off straight to prison

>>23293151
>global conspiracy
They openly admit they want to rape/multilate kids so that's not a conspiracy. If you admit it you're like Islam, it's a religion of war/slavery/retards. Trannies aren't any different from say ISIS or Hitler

>>23293434
>Trannyism didn't exist until jews invented it.
Have you ever read the Bible?
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

>>23293670
Yeah, crossdressing is also gross and you should be killed for itt, they didn't even have a concept of chopping your cock off and turning it inside out.

>>23293676
Well that's just a more extreme form of crossdressing

>>23293679
yes, jews will keep coming up with even more horrifying things which is why we need to exterminate them

>>23292935
This is what should be normal though, the pro-trans movement is what is antithetical to the feminist movement.
I mean it makes no sense for feminists to side with trannies, it's literally men invading women and taking over and devaluing them.
As for why it's become her entire personality, that's what happens when one little thing you say is latched onto by the public and it becomes a neverending spiral of you having to defend/double down and the other side reacting the same way each time forcing you to defend/double down even more.

>>23292760
Hemighway fans don't vandalize ancient monuments

>>23293684
Do you just cherry pick some Jews who are for trannies as if there aren’t bucketloads of non Jews who are similarly for them?

>>23292642
Serious question: what are jews going to do when a century and a half goes by and people stop giving a shit about WW2, just like every other human atrocity that has happened? Do you guys think they could keep spinning the wheels of WW2 for any longer than that?

>>23294151
They are funding new holocaust schools and in my State a few years ago the governer signed a law mandating Holocaust education in all public schools (and another bill making it illegal to boycott israel) They'll keep this one alive by any means necessary.

>>23294151
Lol, you act as if we’re helpless. It’s not 1930 anymore. We have our own State. We’re much more metal and warlike than any of you white christian countries. Arabs tried to do a genocide on us and we literally razed their entire fucking country to the ground. We have nukes. We have the brain power and technological acumen to make ourselves economically indispensable. There’s nothing you neo Nazis can do to us but suck our toes and cry.

>>23292935
The quick answer is that the mob changes the political goalpost every day and each second it gets more stringent. It's not so much that she took that trajectory herself but that she was bumrushed into it. It goes to show how fucking insane the "left" are that one day you can be super woke and on their side and the next day end up a goddamn holocaust denier, unironically.

>>23292935
She isn't a holocaust denier. She is a rabid feminist, extremely pro-lgbt, she even supports trans rights. She just doesn't want the government to legally recognize trans people as the gender they identify as, because it's idiotic and biologically wrong.

>>23294154
>(and another bill making it illegal to boycott israel) They'll keep this one alive by any means necessary.
This doesn't surprise me and yet there's a part of me that can't help but be impressed.

>>23294169
Like clockwork lol they're not even hiding it anymore. People are waking up and the day's coming soon, rabbi. People have turned on Israel and even the most woke people I know have talked shit on your gib-funded "state". And I dunno why you're acting so smug, either.

>>23294191
Come and do something then. The whole world will literally end if Israel’s existence was threatened. Look up the Sampson Option. Also my distant cousin probably owns the place you clean toilets at, so watch your mouth maggot.

>>23292943
lmao

>>23292660
Wow. Which book is this?

>>23293133
> you are engaging in lying…
This is the most successful writer of all time

I’m getting so tired of the “the Jews” people…

>>23293180
You will never see a faggot turning against another faggot, as long as the latter faggot holds the faggot propaganda line.

God I hate /pol/, you ruined /lit/ with your bigotry and hatred

>>23293133
What convinced one of the richest authors in the world that "nazi persecution of troons is the battle I must fight online"?

>>23292642
The reaction against Rowling is so strong not because of her statements per se (which are really quite mild) but because her audience consists of hysterical left wing types, homosexuals, adult children, women etc...

>>23294270
Because according to their logic anyone who was persecuted by Nazis is good. Literally. So if trannies were persecuted trannies are good.

>>23294137
Jew.

>>23294245
I almost wish this site could get banned so /pol/pseud philosophy could stop infecting every corner of the internet as reaction against the obviously shitty mainstream. They’ve become the norm on Twitter, YouTube chats, 4chan, everywhere.

>>23294270
This is what the internet and social media does to people. One day you’re the best selling author and the next you’re getting fired up to debate some bullshit with mentally ill teens on Twitter because you just can’t help yourself. It should be a slogan. Social media. Not even once.

>>23293151
Are they not doing all of those things?
>Say it nicer though!

>>23294399
Have you consideres that maybe you are the freaks and that the /pol/ "schizos" that you apparently see on every website are normal people who are rightfully angry? The fact that you still think its coming from 4chan just shows you are out of touch.

>>23294402
>just ignore it and it'll go away
it's only gotten worse thoughever

>>23294399
Lol yeah I made a Twitter for the first time in my life a couple of weeks ago. The first thing I see is some picture comparing African mudhuts to European Cathedrals, and using this as proof of white superiority. Then I scroll down and see a black-and-white picture of Nazis with an Israeli flag, captioned "We were lied to about our history." An obviously fake picture, as if the Nazis supported Israel or something. But nobody in the comments was questioning it. Very strange place. It's like 4chan with 50 IQ points removed.

>>23294426
I hate this stupid propaganda. Homosexuality is immoral whether they push it on kids or do it in their own bedrooms. Conservatives can't stand up for their own values again so they hide behind the kids. LOL. Why don't you just say homosexuality is unnatural and should be illegal.

This shit is kind of depressing, a successful person having nothing better to do than seethe on twitter all day every day, just screeching into the void. Like doesn't she have anything going for her in her life?

>>23294461
Homosexuality is unnatural and should be illegal.

>>23294476
I agree but cuckservatives won't say it they just pearl clutch about muh kids

>>23294476
being an incel should be illegal, you are a genetic dead end. At least gay people can have a partner and raise adopted kids, you just have whining on 4chan for your entire life. Sad

>>23294480
Well I used to be one of those when I was younger, but clearly none of this was ever about what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, so I rescind my support for anything and everything faggot related

>>23292660
Curtis Yarvin is right about everything and we should all accept him as sensei, read every essay repeatedly, and read the books he recommends.

Soon we'll go raw. A bareback election for a bareback president. The birthday girl is due for a historic surprise.

>>23294245
>Don't agree with a obvious lie made by someone on the internet
>le /pol/
If >>23292642 contradict or is a bad faith misinterpretation of >>23293133 , then it doesn't matter how much anecdotes of pol you bring to protect your group from criticism, people like esqueer_ will still be a fucking liar.

>>23294422
/pol/ itself was a relatively niche board, that was about 50% shit posting, and 20% people unironically advocating Communism, until people's very legitimate complaints about certain things started getting forced onto /pol/.
They created the monster themselves. Maybe give people some space to actually have a conversation where they might disagree with you, if you don't want places like this to arise on the internet, I don't know.
Let me say I don't think game designers should be sucking dick for review scores, and I don't think it should be written into law that I have to call a man in a dress "she". Literally what is the problem?

>>23292642
The UK doesn't have Holocaust denial laws how would this affect Rowling anyway?

>>23294196
Bold words behind your little screen, foreskin sucker kek that sandy shithole won't last another two decades. The world's waking up and time's running out

>>23294480
It isn't a winning fight at this point
Everyone is too addicted to pleasure
>>23294270
It's a battle everyone should fight. This tranny shit is absolutely bonkers, and it's a culture war that the correct side, the "transphobes", are currently losing. Because of people like you

>>23292642
Rowling is wrong, they were I suppose. But what's more fascinating here is the train of thought by these people. As if saying "trans weren't actually oppressed by Nazis" some adds validation to her stance. Its just victim Olympics.

>>23294288
Literally this lmao

>>23294842
The bold thing to say would be "yes, they shut down scientific research, that involved doing sex stuff with kids, because it was obscene", but a JK Rowling tier figure is never going to say anything like that.

Ok? They deserved it

>>23294909
Also not literature. Get your eceleb drama off my board

>>23294910
>my board
Just delete it if it's your board :^)

>>23294214
>the most successful writer of all time
Here book wouldn't be anywhere near popular without the movies.

>>23295193
Her books wouldn't have been made into movies if she wasn't the most successful writer of all time

>>23295271
No U.

>>23295271
Hey anon, it's me again. Sorry for the troon meme, it's kind of uncalled for, anyhow; I just wanna say that from what I've read; David Heyman, film producer, got a copy of the first HP book from his assistant, this back in 97 the year HP was first published, seems like HP began showing up on best sellers list between 99 and 2000 which coincides with the first couple movies pre-production. What I'm trying to say is, I'm sure HP had some innitial sucess but I think the movies happening this early is what astroturfed it into this level of popularity, without the movies I think it could've been popular but within the standards set by other popular children's books from the late 90's and early 2000's. Rest well.

>>23294496
>listening to a dumb kike
>posting brainrot unrelated webm
Kill yourself promptly, nigger.

>>23295587
The US publication rights sold to Scholastic for over $100,000 well before any film producer got his hands on the book. That got the book into the news; it had become a sensation almost before it was even published. By the time any filmmaker was looking at it, it was being read by their adult secretaries and recommended to them.

Zoomers are too young to remember how wildly popular those books became almost immediately. I don't remember any other book that lots of other kids were reading of their own volition. I read it because other people were reading it. None of us had heard of a film, and wouldn't hear about a film until years later.

>>23292642
Based Headmistress Rowling

>>23293028
crossdressing =/= trans

>>23295743
actually it's the same thing

>>23293106
>some satanic books
This is why people laugh at christcucks

>>23295745
>its the same thing!

>>23295740
>it had become a sensation almost before it was even published
Ok, now this shit is fishy. Is JK related to some big name in Hollywood by any chance? I don't know, there's just something about a literal nobody publishing a book for the first time and it becoming a big media franchise this quickly that just doesn't sound natural.

>>23295402

>>23292642
Trans people definitely were persecuted by Nazis, but I'd say that denial of this as equivalent to "holocaust denial" is a pretty politically motivated stretch.

>>23295810

>>23295825
it feels like such an unimportant point because we all know that whether or not trans people were persecuted by the Nazis depends only upon whether "trans people" existed at the time, I don't think anybody doubts that the Nazis would have persecuted "trans people" if they did indeed exist

>>23294422
>You don't agree 1 to 1 with every opinion I've ever held, therefore you're a dyed hair, LGBTQ communist tranny SJW jew doing sex ed readings for toddlers in school!!!
Actual schizo take and I really don't understand how people can be so dumb as to spout this dumb shit every day.
>muh normal people who are rightfully angry
Your abundance of free time gives you a bias. Normal people are working, studying, partying or participating in hobbies and never hear about the same news you're hearing of. You're hearing the opinions of the two vocal minorities that are both equally as annoying to listen to. The silent majority either don't ever hear about this discourse or don't give a fuck.
And even so, some people may even align with your side of the political spectrum and still find you annoying. Some people are just trying to enjoy their hobby and not hear about trannies or nazis 24/7. I know SJWs started the culture war with gamergate but it's not the SJWs coming here and shitting up the board, it's you. This discourse may still be relevant to gaming, but literature is a dead media and there is nothing to be won or lost by talking about literature in relation to modern day politics. Gamergate and the subsequent shoehorning of politics into every hobby, art and internet discussion is the worst thing to ever happen to the internet.

>>23294218
I'm also tired of the jewish "people," my ESL friend.

>>23294453
>as if the Nazis supported Israel or something.
Hitler wanted to deport them somewhere.
If you want some kosher commentary to validate that, listen to some videos of Mark Levin talking about how the evil arabs convinced Hitler that deporting the jews to Assyrian Palestine wouldn't be any good.

>>23295842
>but it's not the SJWs coming here and shitting up the board
Its more insidious, when they assume genitorial positions.

>>23295836
They did exist. Cross dressers and the like existed, and the blurring of gender lines was a massive part of what spurred on the Nazis. The books they burned were all about transsexual research, they burned down Magnus Hirschfields Sexology Institute (I don't remember if that was the exact name but that's what it was, a sex research institution). Hirschfield was Jewish, so you can see where this also lent itself to what the Nazis believed about a Jewish conspiracy to undermine Germany/Europe/whatever the fuck, through degeneracy.
It was basically the exact same shit as what happened now. Transsexual surgery wasn't common because it was in its infancy, but cross dressing, "non binary" people existed, and the Nazis saw this explicitly as a problem. It wasn't a small thing either, this was a major part of early Nazi and proto Nazi arguments and inflammation of their base.
Much the same as now.
I would argue that the reason the point seems moot to you, is because you aren't trans or trans adjacent. But these people will come for you to, eventually. Nobody is pure enough for a Nazi.
Except themselves, of course.

>>23295853
That's just you shitting up the board with off topic threads and going schizo looking for an answer.
The jannies are shit and they aren't here actively looking for threads to delete. You don't blink twice when a blatantly off topic, low quality thread that aligns with your ideology stays up much longer than it needs to. When I'm bored I keep all the obvious off-topic and low quality threads in a window and there are times where absolutely nothing gets taken down for 48+ hours.
Posting a picture of a jew holding a book and asking "Why do Jews do (topic unrelated to literature)" or adding "any books for this feel?" to a post does not make a thread on-topic and it's obvious that the posters and repliers of these threads have no interest in discussing literature and it unfortunately fools the jannies the majority of the time.
If you want to discuss the contents within a book containing right wing ideologies in a serious and non-inflammatory manner i guarantee you will not get banned.

>>23295836
To my prior point though: I'm pretty sure JK Rowling is just clout-chasing online because she's formed a little mini ego base off of these positions she's been taking, and has some concerns about how emphasis on trans rights might undermine or interfere with women's rights, which she does seem to have some genuine concerns over. Is she a little bit of a twit with how she goes about it? Yeah. Does she needlessly inflame people's ire with how she says things? Yeah. Is she attempting "holocaust denial?" I would say that's ridiculous.

>JK Rowling is now being accused of Holocaust denial
How will he respond?

>>23295746
Read Matthew 24. Jesus was right.

>>23292706
Those are all secular religions with a bourgeois bureaucratic priesthood, just like liberalism. They all literally spawned out of liberalism. What's even your point?

>>23296196
Probably that the issue described in that excerpt is one of timeless human nature rather than the product of any -ism

>>23293626
>Contemporary mores entirely revolve around WWAHD, just the most shallow caricature of its opposite
This isn't really very funny

>>23292642
J K Rowling will always be a shitty writer and a dumb feminist but maybe she can be a good free speech advocate.

>>23292642
She obviously stuck her foot in her mouth because she simply didn't know the history of it. Trying to make her out to be a Neo-Nazi is so damn disingenuous.

>>23296204
I was about to contend that this managerial tendency never existed before modern times, but then I remembered that Confucianism existed
Regardless, going back to the original point, if a critique is applicable to liberalism and also to its ideological offspring, that isn't notable or worth commenting on

Why doesn't she listen to herself

Imagine reading the Chamber of Secrets and feeling a flash of revelation realizing you could polyjuice into Hermione. I bet millions of eggs have cracked to that very thought. No wonder transgirl readers feel betrayed

>>23296252
I tend to think that most political thought is an attempt to ignore ethical/moral realities and human nature, which are much harder to grapple with because it requires acknowledging the demon in ones self and taking personal responsibility. Hardly anyone likes doing that, so its easier to choose an -ism, pretend every bad basic human impulse (striving for power over other people, material greed, desire to break the rules, etc) never existed before whatever ideological enemy has one came into play, and pretend their chosen -ism will put a stop to all the bad shit these "other" people are doing.

>>23296261
The frustrating thing about all of this tranny shit is that she never said she hates trans women or that she thinks they shouldn't exist. She just doesn't want them encroaching on the rights of cis-gender women. It's really not hard to understand, people are just choosing to be obtuse about it.

>>23293096
you know what ? for an old broad she is pretty hot

>>23296278
And how do they encroach on womens rights

>>23296343
The sports stuff is definitely a concern.
The bathroom stuff seems problematic too.
Everything else though, I can't see a way that they encroach.

>>23296343
People who have been following this much more closely than I have, have a better grip on the details. I only take a peak every now and then. But I do know Rowling tweets out legal issues and social safety issues surrounding trans-women being placed around and above vulnerable women. One of the initial big stories was Rowling showing her support of Maya Forstater who lost her job over tweets about transgenderism.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62061929
As far as I can see, Rowling has been pretty narrow on exactly what her issues are with trans-women. Never said that it's wrong to be trans or that she doesn't like trans people.

>>23296372
I highly, highly suspect that she's just clout chasing on Twitter because even very famous and successful people aren't immune to the totally ego driven idiocy that comes with the newest societal plague, "social media"
Every otherwise intelligent person sounds like a fucking idiot on social media, sensationalist trash, every time.
I also think people are making her out to be something far worse than she is on the other side; for the same reason.

>>23294124
Guaranteed it was transsexuals or their sympathizers who did this. They are mentally unwell people and instead of giving them the psychological support they need they're being pumped full of hormones and genitally mutilated and left to their own devices to invent grandiose conspiracies about trans genocide.

At least I'd rather have trans tagging dolmens instead of shooting up schools.

>>23292642

Madame Rowling, I kneel.

>>23296389
I agree but I don't think she's looking for attention. She's just an old school feminist and has been vocal about women's rights from the very start of her career and fame as a writer.
Wondering why people are pushing for violent criminals who transitioned to be housed in women's prisons is a perfectly valid concern.

>>23296406
It is, but she goes about it like a troll and definitely enjoys the little ego trip this gives her. I'm not saying it doesn't come from some genuine ideological concern, too; but she acts like a troll trying to get a rise out of other people. And that's because imo, virtualization of the discourse is terrible for humans lol.
Early internet adopters probably have more insight into this than the normal public does: we lived it from childhood. Text based communication over the internet brings out the sadist, the bully, the jester in most people, partially because in the moment, it separates you from the reality of your words consequences.
Even famous people or people with real beliefs aren't immune.

>>23295796
There was a whole conspiracy theory years ago, that she was basically propped up by the Blair government for some reason or another.

>>23296346
Well, if you're a woman, why shouldn't you get to join the woman's sports team, or use the bathroom?

>>23296421
Because, at least right now, the technology does not exist to turn a man into a 1:1 biological equivalent of a woman, therefore they will still embody characteristics of males, one of which is a general relative differential over women in the field of athletics and physical assault.
That's the truth and no trans person should be upset if they hear it, but they often are. Albeit, how often is it said that way? It's usually said much more disparagingly.

>>23296429
Sounds like the old women are just shit at sports. Why should they get to be on the team, if they can't compete?

>>23296437
>the old women
trans women are neo-women, heard it here first

>>23296443
new and improved.

>>23296437
Now you are just being needlessly pedantic, which only serves to prove all the points I've made so far about people and how disappointing they are, universally.

>>23296451
I mean, if you're going to make the argument that "transwomen should be allowed to exist", then it follows.
Woman's rights and woman's spaces, but only for some women? That doesn't make any sense.

And sports are supposed to favour the fit and the capable. You don't boot a tall man off the basketball team, because the short men can't compete.

>>23296474
I made my point pretty clearly I feel like: trans women aren't technologically capable yet of being a 1:1, and when they are, the sports issue won't be of much concern, nor would bathrooms. But that's not possible yet. Thats all.

>>23296412
Trannyism is the most evil cult the planet has ever had the misfortune of dealing with, fuck off.

>>23296477
That just kind of seems like nonsense, in all honesty. People would all be fine with it, as long as the surgery was better?
This also opens all kinds of questions about exactly how "convincing" a woman has to look to be accepted as a real woman, because some women are ugly as fuck. I've literally met women who look like Fred Flintstone.

>>23296478
Nah, that's a wild exaggeration. Most of it is just people doing whatever they feel is best for themselves. Maybe they're wrong, and if they are, they'll deal with the consequences of that themselves, but they should be free to pursue whatever they think will make them happy, as long as it isn't hurting anyone else.
>>23296489
Oh I'm not at all alleging that people would be fine with it; people are pretty horrible and will always find a way to make non problems into problems. More so what I'm saying is, i don't care who isn't fine with it, they can shut up.
And, that the only discernable objective harm could come from a trans woman with a male musculature in every other respect whooping the shit out of female athletes who stand no chance and could be seriously injured, or assaulting a woman in the restroom, where she should have some expectation of basic safety. Every other issue is a figment of people's imagination, and these two would be resolved if the tech improved.
People would probably still piss and moan, but I don't care or see that as valid.

>>23296489
nta but this just makes it sound like you're horny for transwomen. They can't possibly say it any clearer, even most trans women would agree with them. I find it funny how it's the trans women that don't pass who are constantly screeching about their womanhood and the trans women that do pass are like "yeah I've got a dick and balls, what of it?"

>>23296530
There's still some presumption here that "real women" are weak, and can't beat the shit out of each other if they want to.
Female body builders exist. Are you going to tell them they can't use the bathroom? The whole angle is kind of nonsense, past a certain point.

>>23296540
Women can have dicks now.

>>23296544
Sure "women" can but females certainly don't

>>23296541
Nah because those are exceptional cases; on net, men have a sizeable, real anatomical advantage over women in terms of combat and athletics. Of course on the extreme ends this difference wanes, but policy ought to be informed by the averages, not by the extremes. If the goal is harm reduction which I think it should be.
And, women can beat up women, true; but not with the general, relative differential at play like it is between most men and most women.

There were lots of tranny nazis btw, they loved crossdressing.

>>23292642
>'trans people'
>existing prior to the experiments by the pedophile John Money in which he made two boys have sex, resulting in both committing suicide
I don't think so, Tim.

>>23296557
People literally just thought dressing up as a woman was peak comedy, until fairly recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Bjuy5V1Xo

>>23296557
>Crossdressing is being a tranny
No, bro, it's just a fetish.
People didn't insist on gelding themselves before John Money.

>>23296564
Cross dressing and gender blending people have always existed, even prior to sex reassignment surgeries. These people were trans, the surgery just didn't exist yet for them to augment their anatomies.
John Money was a sick bastard who hated himself and projected that on to all men like a weirdo. But his positioning as the "father of trans" is nothing more than a talking point concocted by conservative people who just hate everything about transgenderism and are searching for any way to decry it as an evil and force it back into the subterranean so they don't have to look at it because they are self centered.

>>23296530
No, they're doing it to everyone else, as early as possible, irreversibly. Every single person in, promoting, or profiting from the tranny industry must be killed without exception.

>>23296588
I definitely don't like the shit with the kids and think that needs to stop. I don't think that embodies the "tranny industry" and wouldn't flippantly call for a bunch of people I don't know to be killed.

Trannies, anorexics, dysphoric bodybuilders on homornes, amputation fetishists, voyeurs, cuckolds, foot fetishists, exhibitionists, poly-amours, peepers, masturbation addicts. All part of the same club: mild mental illness, anti-social tendencies, "perverts" of different stripes.

It's fine to be a pervert, just don't encourage it, oh I'm sorry, "normalize" it.

It's absolutely retarded to teach kids they can be a gender that's not male or female. It's a stupid fad to act like a 6 foot dude with broad shoulders is "a woman" if he goes and humiliates himself in public by dressing up as his fantasy, let alone taking hormones and getting surgery. Sick stuff guys.

>>23296593
Well they're not going to stop, which would make us complicit in indefensible evil to allow them to continue existing.

>flexing twitter reports
subversivesisters...why aren't we winning the culture war?

>>23296641
because marxism is the least cool ideology to ever exist
at least the fascists had cool uniforms
nobody looks at this and goes "I want to be like that"

>>23296613
Committing an evil to expunge an evil is evil.
Murder is evil.

>>23296657
Destroying evil is good, actually.

>>23296652
wym marxism is the most successful political-economic system going. China cool as fuck. They raise up the impoverished, they're the workshop of the world, dominating western economies with faster growth, life expectancy, property ownership, no obesity, no drug addiction, etc. etc.

China Marxism cool as fuck and they don't encourage kids to chop their tits and balls off either.

>wym marxism is the most successful political-economic system going. China cool as fuck. They raise up the impoverished, they're the workshop of the world, dominating western economies with faster growth, life expectancy, property ownership, no obesity, no drug addiction, etc. etc.

>China Marxism cool as fuck and they don't encourage kids to chop their tits and balls off either.

>>23296665
What's evil?

>>23296675
The components of their economy that made all that possible are the parts of it that negated Marxist principles and adopted capitalistic market driven principles.

>>23296657
>haha expunging evil is like super evil :^^ we should just let it expand itself infinitely and like it'll totally just disappear by itself eventually lol :))
I hate niggers like you the most.

>>23296697
Ask >>23296657

>>23296690

cope nerd they've already won

you should be happy - they dont do gay tranny ops, they dont kiss ass to israel, they dont call for great resets

but ok stay on the losing side - i'm sure the likes of biden, soros, blackrock, blinken all got your back on this one

>>23296700
Oh so it's "not real marxism?"

Guess I better put on a dress, go wring my hands at a DSA meeting, join a polycule and be a "real marxist"

Time to accept reality: China is the apotheosis of Marxism in 2024 and they are dominating

>>23296703
What is evil?
>>23296705
I wrote that. I have an idea of what evil is. I'm asking you though
>>23296708
By definition, no lol its not real Marxism.
It's "Marxism with Chinese characteristics," which to me, seems like them just doing whatever will pragmatically serve whatever their goal is regardless of what ideology it fits into.
I agree they're ascendant and whatever they're doing has "worked" to get them where they are, but it ain't Marxism.
Maoism wasn't even Marxism.

>>23296720
black cat, white cat, as long as it catches the mouse

>>23296720
Please give your thoughts on what evil constitutes. Im a rando, nta, so I was interested as well and your post was the first one to mention. Thankyou for the incoming explanation anon.

>>23296727
I think evil is whatever I believe is evil.
>>23296725
Yes, exactly.

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>>23292642
Trannies are insane
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1c69zby/jk_rowling_gets_apology_from_journalist_after/

>>23292660
Kek this is the political philosophy of "they do it for free"

>>23296252
The quote cut to the bone of his ideology so he wants to generalize it instead of allowing it the focus to be on his beliefs. Either that or he's a "both sides" pseud who hasn't grown out of the idea that he's hyper informed because all systems of belief have their drawbacks.