/lit/ - Literature

>>23292651
there was discussion when cormac's tranny books were released, before and after.

it's like with games and generally every piece of media right now
why would you read/interact with the new shit (boring, soulless, not worth your time) instead of the old shit (good, based, entertaining, worth your time) since obviously there's more old shit than new shit

>>23292652
That was over a year ago, anon

>>23292651
>oh boy I sure can't wait to discuss the latest queer brown tranny kike intersectionalist "literary" tirade against White men

>>23292651
Too much comes out and none of it looks good. I don't know what to read, so I keep making my way through the classics and returning to my favorites. I do read contemporary poetry, however.

>>23292677
Achmed the Tranny's Islamic Jihad Chronicles

>>23292651

Which new book should we be discussing?

I am reading a book published in 2021 by James Ellroy currently, it’s actually pretty good, about blackmailing celebrities and getting content for papparazzi around the 70s, I don’t even bother with reviews or ratings anymore, I tried multiple books from New York Times bestseller list and they were some of the worst things I ever read. Also good reads ratings are generally the opposite of how I found the book. I imagine the average good reads user as a fat chick who hates men. No way I’m bothering with what that place rates a book, in fact I just take the opposite of what it says.

Sadly this is the real issue, it’s hard to find the books you want when everybody reviews them wrong. New books have so little chance of being found.

>>23292651
Does anyone read new books? Me personally, I won't read a new book. It has to be old, I like the old books, and the ancient books. New books are just a bit too booky for me. What a funny word book is. Sportscasters don't have these problems, they can just talk forever about some guy catching a ball and people expect that, they want them to talk forever. An author though, they start talking and someone is bound to say: "Didn't so and so already say that?" Like the universe only allows one book to say something and then that's it, it's been said, and from that point on all we can do is shrug and say "sounds like so and so didn't read that one author amirite?" Now if you're willing to pour over the sloppa, there is no end, I mean that goes on forever. Poppa sloppa is the neverending story.

>>23292651
most people are still reading interesting backlog compared to new stuff that releases :p. Nobody has time for that shit anon.

>>23292710
Jerry get Kindle.

the shards by bret easton ellis was pretty good. i love gay sex.

>>23292699
>it's hard to find the books you want when everybody reviews them wrong
there are plenty of youtube "film critics" who will give glowing reviews to A24 etc. films, and Fantano will give the spotlight to obscure indie bands
but there is nobody out there championing literary fiction. the biggest book reviewer is Daniel Greene who focuses on one area of genre fiction, and then you have a million YA booktubers
also, whereas RYM was able to cultivate a snobbish, elitist userbase that makes it meaningful when an album goes bold, nearly every single book on goodreads hovers somewhere around the 4.0 mark making the scores utterly useless
the two ways to fix this problem is to
a) someone needs to become an internet celebrity reviewing literary fiction exclusively who isn't a /pol/chud and makes /lit/ seethe just as much as Fantano makes /mu/ seethe
b) someone needs to create a social media site for books similar to Goodreads but with a population of pretentious English majors
and that is how you make literature relevant in the 2020s

So what was the last book to be released that was actually worth reading?

>>23292761
You never read the latest books, so you'd never know.

>>23292773
I want to know your opinions retard

>>23292651
This is a board about established fiction authors. New non-fiction does get read though. Also from a sociological point of view there is never a mass of enough people to have read enough of the same new books that would coincide with said new book being released. Anything that catches on will have enough people having read it in 2-3 years if it sticks and could possibly gain meme status here.

You are obviously a moron who didn't think your post through. Read some sociology classics so get a bit smarter.

When Michel, Cormac, Franzen and Murakami release new books they do get discussed, but those authors have meme status here,

>>23292651
Because all the newly released books are completely pozzed, anti-white bullshit written by trannies and feminists with connections to the big five publishers. We are living in the dark ages of literature and there is nothing new worth reading. I think the best selling book right now is currently a gender bent retelling of fucking Eragon.

>>23292699
>New York Times bestseller list
>good reads ratings
>>23292745
>Internet celebrity
>social media
Lads...if you actually cared about literature you would make a fucking effort

>>23292667
so? discussion exists provided /lit/ cares about the book

>>23292677
>capitalizing a color
fragile faggot

>>23292745
>similar to Goodreads but with a population of pretentious English majors
I would have guessed goodreads is the way it is because it is full of pretentious lit majors?

>>23292651
Flip flopping between reading Chain Gang All Stars (very recent book) and some classics at the moment. I'll probably make a thread on it when I finish it

>>23292745
>but there is nobody out there championing literary fiction.
there are some people but they arent popular enough

>>23292781
It's not necessarily about having read the book, but rather about being interested in it. On /tv/ and /mu/ there are threads about upcoming and new releases that don't necessarily involve discussions about the actual content, but I don't see that culture here.

>>23292811
Maybe books don't take an hour or two to read and in generally is a medium that is not "in" for at least 20 years. Tell me a new book (fiction) that I should care about? Also movies and music can be enjoyed by an extremely big global audience immediately, meanwhile with books you english-only speakers need to wait for translations. You guys don't even have the newest Michel book translated for almost 2 years now.

>>23292792
Lmao ok brown faggot (lower case b)

>>23292792
very ugly

https://www.simonandschuster.com/p/new-releases
Let's look at the new releases shall we?
>In the latest thrilling entry of the bestselling Under Suspicion series by Queen of Suspense Mary Higgins Clark and Alafair Burke, television producer Laurie Moran investigates the unsolved murder of a beloved couple celebrating the college graduations of their successful twin sons.
>“This could very well be the first great K-Pop literary phenomenon.” —Debutiful, Most Anticipated Books of 2024. Perfect for fans of Mouth to Mouth and Black Buck, this whip-smart, darkly funny, and biting debut follows a psychologist with a savior complex who offers shelter to a recently cancelled K-pop idol on the run.
>From Philip K. Dick Award finalist Elwin Cotman, an irresistibly unnerving collection of stories that explore the anxieties of living while Black—a high-wire act of literary-fantastical hybrid fiction.
>The first adventure in the New York Times bestselling fantasy trilogy from the legendary million-selling author and creator of Drizzt Do’Urden.
>The new thrilling novel from Megan Miranda, the instant New York Times bestselling author of All the Missing Girls, The Last to Vanish, and The Only Survivors.
>From “one of the UK’s most interesting authors” (Kirkus Reviews), Patricia Highsmith meets White Lotus in this surprising and suspenseful modern gothic story following a couple running from both secretive pasts and very present dangers while honeymooning on a Greek island.
>The daughter of a legend finds the love of a lifetime in this passionate, heart-wrenching installment in J.R. Ward’s #1 New York Times bestselling Black Dagger Brotherhood series.
>The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue meets Life of Pi in this dazzlingly epic debut that charts the incredible, adventurous life of one woman as she journeys the globe trying to outrun a mysterious curse that will destroy her if she stops moving.
>From the New York Times bestselling author of In Five Years and One Italian Summer comes a love story that will define a generation. Being single is like playing the lottery. There’s always the chance that with one piece of paper you could win it all.
>From the #1 bestselling author of The Glass Castle, the instant New York Times bestseller a “rip-roaring, action-packed” (The New York Times) novel about an indomitable young woman in prohibition-era Virginia.
>When a woman discovers a rare book with connections to her past, long-held secrets about her missing sister and their childhood in the English countryside during World War II are revealed in this “beguiling blend of hope, mystery, and true familial love” (Sadeqa Johnson, New York Times bestselling author).

Because the people who post here are in the demographic that contemporary literary fiction doesn't appeal to.

>>23292710
>An author though, they start talking and someone is bound to say: "Didn't so and so already say that?"
"Would that I had words that are unknown, utterances and sayings in a new language, that hath not yet passed away, and without that which hath been said repeatedly — not an utterance that hath grown stale, what the ancestors have already said."
Khekheperre-Sonbu, scribe, lamenting that everything he wishes to write has already been said. Ancient Egypt, ca. 1890 BC

My First Book coming soon

>>23292651
Tried to talk about pic related, mods removed my post.

>>23292664
But on /v/, /mu/ and /tv/ people generally discuss upcoming titles.

>>23293956
>>23292811
If /tv/ and /mu/ discussed classics instead of new releases they would actually be worth posting on.

Anyway I don't disagree that it would be better if people tried a little harder w/r/t new stuff but given the incentives of the industry the returns are likely to be marginal at best for the good-faith reader. It's a genuinely self-sacrificing thing to do if you have any interest at all in the generality of classic literature.

I check the new releases section at Barnes & Noble every time I go but I sincerely cannot recall the last time I saw a book there that was remotely appealing. There’s two problems there. One is obvious. A lot of garbage is being published. This has been talked about to death. But as readers, we also rely on a certain degree of curation. We might not pick up a copy of The Count of Monte Cristo were we not aware that it’s a classic and modern novels are just never classics.

>>23292651
Because anything that's traditionally published is soulless slop and anything published independently just gets torn down for being shilled.

>complaining best sellers are bad
This is cope. You know full well that is not where the quality is likely to be.
>>23292966
This is also cope. As bad as some goodreads thot complaining that Chekhov doesn't speak to her lived experience as a blonde

>>23292651
>3000 years of literature
>read literature made in the last 5 years
Never made sense for me. Talking about upcoming makes even less sense.

>>23292651
I could use some recommendations from the Fitzcarraldo Editions

>>23292651
>Why is there absolutely zero discussion about upcoming books on this board?
But people talk about Winds of Winter all the time here

>>23292651
Because most new stuff sucks. Unless you have a recommendation.

>>23292651
I try to make threads on it occasionally but in reality /lit/ is only interested in classics and philosophy because they can pseud it up and act like le enlightened beans because that's all they care about.
I think there should be a seperate boat for contemporary literature, maybe one that has book clubs that pick a book of the month for discussion topics.

>>23292913
Simon and Schuster are literally the least successful big publishing house at the moment, the only reason they haven't been bought out by a rival publisher is anti-competition laws. I even saw an article recently saying Meta thought about buying them simply to use their catalogue to train AI.

>>23295823
>seperate boat
*board

>>23293956
That certainly isn't the case for /mu/, the well has dried up completely for former /mu/core favorites releasing new material. This isn't 2013 any longer with mbv coming out.

i rember when threads about tao lin or honor levy come up people spam it with "fuck off" "hi tao" or "buy an ad"

lit actively avoids the cutting edge of what we have left of literature while crying that its dead

>>23295844
It definitely isn't the case for /v/ or /tv/ either, they only talk ablut new releases if there's a black or tranny in it to complain about

>>23292651
Frankly the only good books that have come out in recent years are all non-fiction that would just turn into a /pol/ thread (which im not opposed to but not particularly interested in either) or they are related to theology. I cant think of the last time an amazing novel or collection of poems were published. Between Two Fires maybe? Harassment Architecture? My Diary Desu?

>>23295856
The Wager is a great recent non-fiction book that /pol/tards can't whine too much about, perhaps even Killers of the Flower Moon

>>23292651
The real answer is that trying to discuss anything new will get you labeled a shill and no discussion will take place.

>>23295876
Fuck off, shill.

>>23294281
>This is also cope. As bad as some goodreads thot complaining that Chekhov doesn't speak to her lived experience as a blonde
I don't think it's as bad to just ignore something that doesn't appeal to you than it is to go out of your way to complain about it in the manner you described.

>>23292773
New books come out everyday so it’s technically impossible to read “the latest book”

>>23295977
based autist

>>23295816
heh good one

>>23292651
Here are some :

These first two are re-releases :

Geography of the Imaginarion : essays by Guy Davenport. Davenport was friends with McCarthy. I found some of his essays very insightful. This board will probably hate him as he liked his men a tad on the young side.

Mortal Leap by Macdonald Harris : I don’t know much about this book, but the basic premise sounds kind of interesting. Originally published in the 1960s

A biography of Larry McMurty came out at the end of last year.

A 2 volume set of photography from Volmann also came out late last year that looks interesting.

Houellebecq is fairly regularly discussed on /lit/

>>23295650
Ed Atkins

>>23295844
/mu/ is completely dead. it's just homosexuals and bitter women gossiping about celebrities.
actually now that I think about it, that sounds like several boards.

>>23292761
I thought this was really good. He gets compared to Franzen a lot. Massive step up from The Nix too, imo.

>>23296962
you're forgetting the k-pop generals - that's where 75% of the activity is

>>23292651
Unlike most other mediums, literature has 4,000 years worth of material to choose from.

>>23297027
>mediums
We're not talking about ESP here anon...

>>23295977
>>23295997
He’s not autistic, he’s illiterate and a pedant. The phrase used was “latest books” (plural, in case he misreads it again).

>>23297033
holy retard

>>23297224
>retard
It's media, you meant media. Read a book.

>>23295871
Im the guy you responded to. To be clear, I AM a /pol/tard. Thats just not what I come here for, I dont even really go to /pol/ for political discussion anymore frankly.

>>23298120
Oh I see, yeah fair I guess even a /pol/tard doesn't need to see /pol/ stuff in every 4chan board