/lit/ - Literature

>>23279853


WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?

>>23279869
>tripfag perplexed as to why someone would want to have sex with a woman
like clockwork

>>23279869
>Wtf, no /lit/ boyfriend who gives me in-depth reviews on what she's currently reading that isn't complete slop.*
fixed it for you

>wtf no gf

>>23279872


ARE YOU REALLY SO ALIENATED FROM REALITY & DESPERATE FOR SEX THAT YOU WOULD ENGAGE IN COITVS WITH ANY WOMAN?

THE ANGST OF YOUR INVOLUNTARY CELIBACY SEEMS TO BE AFFECTING YOUR INTELLECT, BECAUSE I ASKED REGARDING THE TYPE OF WOMAN THAT YOU DESCRIBED, NOT ABOUT YOU BEING EAGER TO PUT PENIS IN VAGINA.

>>23279880
not reading that
being a fag is socially acceptable to most people but you have to understand it's normal for men to like pussy

>On a typical evening at Tribschen Wagner and his wife ask, when the children are asleep, what book they should read together. Plato? Not yet bound. Schiller? Read him recently. Calderon? Shakespeare? Homer? 'We decide,' Cosima writes, 'on the last.' (I'm pleased at that, for Homer is far and away my favourite reading.) 'Most wonderful impression,' Cosima writes, 'a sublimely intimate evening, indelible images stamped on my mind. Untroubled sleep.'
>In the next day's entry she writes, 'The evening [is] crowned with four cantos from the Odyssey (Calypso, Nausicaa, Leucothea). Only distraction during the reading is watching R[ichard]'s fine, radiant counternance and delighting in the sound of his voice.' And on successive evenings she writes, about subsequent books of the Odyssey, 'Great delight ... The splendid happenings seem like a dream picture to me ... [Richard's] voice and his manner encompass the immortal work like music.
>One day, over lunch, Wagner rates Plato's Symposium above all other literary works: 'In Shakespeare we see Nature as it is, here we have the artistic awareness of the benefactor added; what would the world know about redeeming beauty without Plato?'
>One night they decide that there are seven great books. 'Over supper we discussed our indispensables and classified them thus: Homer, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Plato's Symposium, Cervantes Don Quixote, the whole of Shakespeare, and Goethe's Faust.' (Dante likely being forgotten rather than ignored)
>The theatre at Bayreuth is opened, and they move into Wahnfried, the house Wagner designed there for himself. Properly married at last, they now have a library of over two thousand books to choose from for their evening reading. They make their way through several books of Thucydides together. Wagner wants to contrast German politics with those of classical Greece. 'Ah, they were too intelligent, those fellows,' he says of the Athenians. 'They could not last.' One day Cosima finds him reading Sophocles Oedipus and checking the translation against the original Greek. 'It is a torrent of beauty,' he says, 'now vanished forever: we are barbarians.'
>A son is born, and they draw up plans for his future reading. Philosophy: Schopenhauer. Religion: Eckhart, Tauler. Art: R. Wagner. And then, much the same great-books program as before, climaxing in the big three - Homer, Aeschylus, and Sophocles.

>>23279899
>There is something touching, finally, about the older, thoroughly domesticated couple, in an age before television, setting down again to read the Odyssey - she listening, as Penelope once did, and he reading the tale, as Odysseus once told it to his wife. He reads, she says, 'in so sublimely moving a way that I shed tears.' He concludes that Homer 'really was the poetic par excellence, the source of all poetic art, the true creator,' (He's right, as usual, in aesthetic matters.) In his last year, they return to Book 10, to the magical description of Circe's island, and the appearance of Hermes there. When they lay the book aside, he says, 'How sublime it is.'

>>23279853
That's a man, isn't it?

>>23279899
>>23279904
I wish I could have such a beautiful relationship like Wagner and his wife (maybe without the cheating bit). Oh well, I must continue hoping.

>>23279880
And what type of woman would you Latinx trash consider fuckable? Travecos?

>>23279917
>He is also in favor of marriages arranged by parents in the true interests of their families; nowadays, he says, everyone wants to live his own romantic novel and imagines that this rarest of things, love, over which whole epics have been written, is an everyday affair which happens to us all.

All the girls i know with good taste in books are depressed as fuck or have some other mental illness. Seems like healthy women read mostly shit.

>>23279922
>thinks there's such thing as a mentally healthy woman

>>23279921
The man wrote the most beautiful stories about love and got to live out his own. Smug bastard. I love him.

>>23279853
I am offended, inexplicably, by this monochromatic nightmare.

>>23279880
why are tripfags all like this man what the fuck

Girls only read smut it's disgusting

>>23280090
>celine
>camus
>delilo
>dostovesky
>borges
>tartt
Okay, chuddie

>>23279869
A taste for the classics is the hallmark of an aristocratic personality.

>>23280081
Cum genius is a special kind of retarded though

her books look like they are just for decoration

>>23280141
She posts in-depth reviews on her instagram of the books she's reading. Although the reviews are tyipically womanbrained, they've got a bit more substance to them than most bookfluencers

>>23280156
Post one such review. If it's halfway decent i will consider being her bf.

>>23280112
Ywnbaw

>>23280172
Her review on The Stranger by Camus

>“Throughout the whole absurd life I’d lived, a dark wind had been rising toward me from somewhere deep in my future, across years that were still to come, and as it passed, this wind leveled whatever was offered to me at the time, in years no more real than the ones I was living.”
>What new words can I possibly add to the discourse surrounding this highly regarded (and highly read) work of Absurd literature? Indeed, what would it matter if I were to say nothing at all? To speak or not to speak: in the end, the outcome is the same.
>Or so says Albert Camus, twentieth century philosopher of the Absurd, most commonly pictured smoking a cigarette and moseying about in a dark coat. Camus would have you believe that the thought processes of Meursault, The Stranger’s narrator, are in fact rational — and not simply rational, but the only logical response to the absurdity of existence. In a world without religion, without meaning, where everyone dies and everything fades to nothing, the apathy of Meursault starts to take on an uncomfortable sort of sense.
>I say “uncomfortable” because in another light, Meursault’s thoughts and actions could be easily read as cold, cruel and, let’s be honest, downright sociopathic. It’s no wonder, really, his trial becomes such a spectacle: he is not on trial, after all, for the murder of a man, but for his character — for the truth he represents, a truth the rest of the world recoils from so vehemently that they would put him to death just to kick it back under the rug.
>This little novel packs one hell of a punch. Unfortunately for me, in knowing already what Camus was all about, I can’t say any part of it took me by surprise. But I can certainly imagine the stir it would have caused on its release day!
>A superb and accessible introduction to the philosophy of the Absurd. If you haven’t read it, I’d get right to it!

>>23280136
He is Brazilian, what did you expect?

>>23279853
>what she's currently reading that isn't complete slop.
This is where the hope dies, OP. I love my gf but if I have to listen to another fairy-werewolf-king story about a rough but soft Chad who roars lustily for a flawless yet troubled Stacy I'm going to throw myself off a building

>>23280112
Kys

>>23279899
>>23279904
>>23279921
>He is also in favor of marriages arranged by parents in the true interests of their families

How can a man be this based?

>>23280090
Boys only watch porn it's disgusting

>>23280209
if this is ellie can u pls send me feet pics ur cute

>>23279922
We live in a culture where the elite standard is nothing more than being hot, rich, and popular. Reading used to be a hallmark of the aristocracy but today, it’s something people turn to largely out of isolation. Still, I think the natural aristocrats, the societal and not social elites, will be readers of the classics. It’s not just depressed people. They’re just a small percentage of all readers.

>>23279899
Good for them. I am and always will be too much of a pleb to live like that, some people are just built different.

>>23280209
I only listen to gf comfort ASMR vids on yt thougheverbeit

>>23279880
>INVOLUNTARY CELIBACY
oxymoron

>>23280112
>borges
>tartt
genre fiction

>>23279853
My wife,to whom I have been married for about 28 years, and I do share an interest in books and reading...
I married a former librarian. We often share audio books together on long winter evenings, she working on her beading or crochet, I fussing with my pipe... To be fair, she was only a librarian for a year or so before going to work in insurance, but it still counts...
>pic unrelated

>>23280207
Ik,r?

>>23279935
Wagner is a god, us mortals can't expect to live the life of a god.

>>23279853
she is on the cusp of hitting the wall. probably crashed into the wall right as this pic was taken. gonna be looking ghastly soon.

>>23279853
This is the intellectual's version of "I just want a girl who watches football and drinks beer with me"
Why do you want your woman to behave like a man?

>>23279899
>(Dante likely being forgotten rather than ignored)
Mind-boggling cope from Dante fans

>>23280883
Because men are better than women, but I am attracted to women.

>>23280883
Reading is a very feminine activity though.

>>23280194
He's Mexican

>>23279872
>wants to have sex with a woman
>not an oiled warrior-twink
>not an alien lifeform
>not your gynoid robot maid
>not an eldritch abomination summoned with forbidden books
Anon has once again failed to start with the Greeks, failed to continue with sci-fi, failed to ascend to cyberpunk and will never get close to the ultimate aesthetics of Gothic horror.

>>23279853
The girl I'm talking to is a big reader and told me she's writing a novel in her free time. Sends me Dostoevsky memes. Is a genuine 9/10 beauty with big lips and a jawline chiseled by the Greeks themselves. If I don't end up marrying this girl I'm just gonna kill myself

>>23280919
reading for novelty is feminine. I don't read to be entertained
>>23280912
interesting take. so you are attracted to the personality and essence of men? sounds gay

>>23279853
She looks like she posts bumhole pics on Reddit

>>23279853
Lol

>>23279853
>what's the rape whistle for

>>23279869
Wildly overrated and invariably turned into a dick measuring contest by paradoxically dickless faggotizing they/them. And when it isn't, they have over specialized, narrow focus of interest and nagging you for recommendations for uwuful 'edification'.

>>23282159
>>what's the rape whistle for

Just put your lips together and blow.

>>23279853
What is the name of this reviewer?

>>23283422
shaye easton

>>23283495
Thank you.

>>23279853
I would comfort with a female youtuber who gives me in-depth reviews on what she's currently reading that isn't complete slop.

>>23279869
>>23279880
Tripfag is actually a fag lol

>>23279853
Why does she have two copies of White Noise, far apart?

>>23279899
>>23279904
Bros... this hurts to read
This is what they took from you

>>23280192
>tfw the reviews prose is more purple than the books prose

>>23279899
We have to go back!

>>23279853
I want a better look at the titles but she's doing this typical woman thing where any background is just an excuse for a selfie.

>>23283719
This should have a name
Solipselfie? (To the point)
Pusselfie (pejorative)
Womanposing? (In the vein of manspreading or mansplanning)
Vanity angle?
Spotlighting?

>>23283643
It's a statement on the look of the shelves, obviously

>>23280192
The Stranger is garbage thoughever and so is absurdism

>>23280962
>warrior-twink
Oxymoron

>>23283672
>"This is what THEY took from you!!!!!"
>we can still read it
>men and women are getting married every day
This site cracks me up. As if some unknown force is stopping /lit/cels from getting a gf and wife. Maybe look in the mirror, examine your faults, and labor towards becoming a man worth marrying? Just a thought.

>>23283793
This, there's nothing that is stopping you from becoming le Chad, start by taking a shower.

>>23283793
They have to outgrow hating women first.

>>23283800
It has nothing to do with being a "Chad" (whatever that means). It has to do with being a man worthy of respect and esteem from your peers and loved ones, and that takes effort. It's really sad how many anon's just seem to sit at home and bitch and moan about the world at large while simultaneously doing nothing about improving their station in life.

>>23283817
Chad is an idealized masculine figure who can apparently bed all the women with zero efforts on his part thanks to his genetic superiority and supreme confidence.

>>23283830
I know what the meme is, I said 'whatever that means' to mean however you personally define that, since it has many definitions depending on which circle your discussing it in. My main point was it has nothing to do with being a "Chad", because that type of person is a fantasy. The 'chad' you described doesn't exist, and anyone who has spent time in the world, and been exposed to a variety of types of people from all walks of life can testify to that. Life always comes down to the correction of our faults and the improvement of our own faculties as far as we are able. That person is always the one who is looked on with esteem, respect, and repute. And that type of person is always the one women want to marry. It'd be almost incredible to me /lit/cels don't understand this if I weren't already aware many of you are depressed irl and rarely leave your house.

>>23283817
>>23283800
>>23283793
>>23283813
The question is not hating women or not
The question is not becoming Chad or not
The question is hoeflation. The quality of women out there is abysmal. They are all a combination of tattooed, overweight, bitter, brain poisoned, sociopathic, drug and social media addicted, and have been run through

>>23283966
>The question is hoeflation. The quality of women out there is abysmal. They are all a combination of tattooed, overweight, bitter, brain poisoned, sociopathic, drug and social media addicted, and have been run through
This hasn't been my impression at all. Stop stating your opinion as a fact, you'll feel a lot better.

>>23283841
Chad doesnt exist because he is a Platonic ideal but many men, a small minority, approach this ideal
So you saying "he doesnt exist" is dishonest. Men with good genetics have disproportionately easier lifes

>>23283976
You are either too young to ahve any experience or too old to be out of touch with newer generations

>>23283980
genetics are nothing in a life. Sure, some men have slight genetic predispositions that are adventageous. But the one who labors harder to perfect what he does have will always be held in greater awe and repute than that with better gifts, who did nothing with them. I swear do any of you even leave your house and spend time in the world? This would be so obvious if you did. My god, go to any restaurant, any public park or movie theater, and observe how many average men are with hot women, and how many hot men with average women. This site sickens me. You're all pathetic. Excuse after excuse. I thank God I can see these things and am not like any of you losers.

>>23283986
Here's a little newsflash for you, chuddy: there is nothing new under the sun. Women have always been slutty, so have men, no less than they've been virtuous and chaste. This fantasy you have that the women of two or three generations ago were perfect, chaste angels waiting to be married is a delusion. It is the same as it ever was.

>>23283996
>genetics are nothing in life bro, its not about the cards, its how you play then. Look at me, I may be ugly but girls still think Im charming

>>23284001
you lie liar. My Grandma was a saint.

>>23284001
>dont trust any statistic about lifetime sexual partners published in the last 100 years bro
>sexual revolution? Never happened and has always been like that
>of course dating apps where women are flooded with suitors and choose based on looks alone from the confort of their homes had no impact whatsoever in how people choose mates
>people have always been as degenerate as we are theres no such thing as cultural trends, the only difference across the years is how TVs got thinner and larger, thats the only significant historical change, human behavior is the same at every single epoch and culture

>>23284008
made me chuckle ngl

>>23284017
if you went outside and talked to people at your age level they were REAL (not terminally online, BPD arthoe, ie people who grew up in real families) you would not believe this. go to church or the bar every once and a while and see how it changes you

>>23283731
Hoefie, contraction of hoe + -fie, from selfie
It's short, understated and in keeping with the ironic usage of ebonics among Internet users

>>23283787
If Achilles were standing behind you, you wouldn't dare type that.

>>23279853
/lit girls give fantastic oral sex.
>because of their expanded vocabularies and brains that essentially never shut up, she's creating an entire erotic novel while her head is near your loins. This dramatically improves the silent sort of emotional communication - her eyes even dilate depending on the story she's formulating.
afterwards it's always appropriate to make her a sandwich.

>>23283605
>Not attracted to manic OCD booknerds and has standards? Must be a fag!

>>23284394
Put your trip back on

>>23284400
Take your pills

>>23279853
not while you believe in reactionary lies.

>>23286232
Which lies in particular?

>>23286352
My wild guess is that it would include all the things he doesn't approve of. If you just start believing of what he approves, your dream gf will surely manifest.

>>23279853
That feeling when no girlfriend who whispers soft German poetry into my ear as she rapes me in the morning ;(
Why live?

>>23279899
nietzsche bros our response?

>>23279853
>Will I ever get a girlfriend
No, because you spergs can't hide your autism.

>>23279853
This is reality tho, and in reality, you aren't gonna meet "le dream girl" that matches your niche autistic taste in literature. Dating lit girls in my 20s was a headache and a ballache that made me lose my faith in romance and literature itself for a while.

Your soulmate isn't going to share all the exact same interests as you, and that's a good thing. If you're not obnoxious, they might be open to try the things you enjoy, however.

>>23284394
>manic OCD booknerds
stop stop i'm too hard my brain is deoxygenating as all the blood in my body rushes to my agonising boner

>>23279899
Where can I read more about this person, which I adore already anyways?

>>23283966
>no men are tattooed, overweight, bitter, brain poisoned, sociopathic, drug and social media addicted